Dolphins sign all three exlcusive rights free agents
The Dolphins signed Davone Bess, Dan Carpenter, and Joey Haynos to one year contracts this past week. All three will be able to participate in the team's offseason conditioning program that begins on Monday.
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good news
glad to see dan and davone back for sure… Haynos i would like to see improve some
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The Maryland standout also scored two touchdowns in 2010, bringing his career total to three.
Well, i guess this is something to look forward to….
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Mar 20, 2010 1:29 PM EDT reply actions
yeah....i agree.........
anytime you have a guy on the offense side of the ball that is 6 feet 8 inches tall you have to find a way to take advantage of his physical gift…………
Just one mans opinion...
by MagicDolphin on Mar 20, 2010 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions
actually, i was kidding because Kelly says he scored twice in 2010....
hasn’t happened yet. =)
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Mar 20, 2010 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions
oh wow.........he really didn't?
Just one mans opinion...
by MagicDolphin on Mar 20, 2010 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions
but i like haynos.... a lot.
if he improves technically (like his blocking skills), he could be awesome.
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Mar 20, 2010 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions
i disagree
he isnt a good blocker or receiver… so what would you say he does here
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Mar 20, 2010 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions
how can you disagree that i like him?
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Mar 20, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
i actually laughed out loud when i read this..........
Just one mans opinion...
by MagicDolphin on Mar 20, 2010 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Yea!
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Wait offseason activities starts on Monday already?
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I like the positives they give about Bess on here
A very fast specimen. Blessed with great hands, he can make catches all over the field. A decent route runner that can fool defenders with surprising shiftiness.
He was definatly blessed with great hands.
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Apart from fumbling great hands. But I don't think it will be too big of a problem with him.
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by Choose your screen name: on Mar 20, 2010 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions
whoa someone accused Bess of being fast?!
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Mar 20, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah thats surprising
The only wisdom is the knowledge that you don't know.
And, as always, screw the JETS!!!!!!!!
Why didn't Bess get a multi year deal are they afraid he is gonna drop off as well or id it because of the bargaining agreement between the NFL and it's players?
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He has to be the best WR on our roster right now.
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disagree.
Bess us good. He and Cammy are about the same. I think Hartline is better than both.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Mar 20, 2010 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Seriously,
with only 31 catches, I’m surprised.
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by uncle finster on Mar 20, 2010 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
Hartline is the man
Being a rookie last year, he didn’t get a whole lot of playing time at the beginning of the season. We’ve only seen a slight glimpse of what he is going to be able to do as he gets more time. Pro bowl next year? I think it is a great possibility.
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by FinsFanDave on Mar 20, 2010 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Why not?
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by texascowpunk on Mar 21, 2010 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
no, dude
bess is better than cammy in every aspect except for catching, and route running they are about equat
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and what do you mean "except for catching"????
that is the job description… “catch the football”
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Mar 21, 2010 11:28 AM EDT up reply actions
This I can agree with.
Hartline is already pretty damn good, and he has plenty of upside remaining.
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by texascowpunk on Mar 21, 2010 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions
There was no question he was our best WR last year,
it wasn’t even close.
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by uncle finster on Mar 20, 2010 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions
so why only 1 year?
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Come on man... you know better than to argue # of catches...
According to that criterion, Bess is better than Desean Jackson, Vincent Jackson, Marques Colston, etc. etc.
Yes, Bess was the #1 WR on the Fins squad last season, in terms of overall yards produced. No disagreement.
But the man above stated:
He has to be the best WR on our roster right now.
Hartline came in as a rookie and contributed more TDs than any other WR – despite starting the season as the #4 WR behind Ginn, Cammy, and Bess. Oh, and Hartline was better rushing, contributing another TD with an avg. of 7.3yds/carry on 4 attempts. Ginn had 6.9/carry on 7 attempts and zero TDs.
Hartline was also clearly the best deep threat we had on the roster last season, with a 16.3 yds/c average, compared to Ginn @ 11.9.
Here are the comparisons:
Hartline
No. – Yd – y/c – – TD Fum
31 - 506 - 16.3 - - 3 – 0
Bess
No. – Yd – y/c – – TD Fum
76 - 758 – 10.0 - - 2 - - 3
Ginn
No. – Yd – y/c – – TD Fum
38 - 454 – 11.9 - - 1 - - 0
Camarillo
No. – Yd – y/c – – TD Fum
50 - 552 – 11.0 - - 0 - - 0
Of ALL WRs in the league, who recorded 20 or more catches last season, only 10 have a better per catch average.
Considering it was his rookie season, and the fact that he did not start getting more playing time until the second half of the season, I think it is fair to look at what he accomplished last year and conclude that (excluding unknowns like Turner or Pruitt, or a draft pick) Hartline is the best WR we have on the roster right now.
Oh yeah, and what did Bess do his rookie season, with Captain Dinkandunk at the helm?
No. – Yd – y/c – – TD Fum
54 - 554 – 10.3 - - 1 - - 1
just sayin…
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Mar 20, 2010 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Ginn did better than Hartline when going deep but they just got called back for penalties
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I agree Lefty
Hartline is the best WR on the roster. He started to show it more and more as the season wore on. I like him starting with Bess in the slot.
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agreed. He was very effective as a rookie, and i expect to see improvement from him next season.
He would make a solid #2 if we had a true #1.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Mar 20, 2010 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah.
The thing about Hartline is that he needs to build his body up a bit and add maybe 10-15 lbs of muscle he can be that big-physical player in the mold of Antuan Boldin. The guy is truly a football player in every sense of the word. Probably my favorite player on the Dolphins right now.
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he will weigh real close to 200lbs before the season starts i'm sure......
Just one mans opinion...
by MagicDolphin on Mar 20, 2010 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Doesn't he already?
The only wisdom is the knowledge that you don't know.
And, as always, screw the JETS!!!!!!!!
Insn't Hartline's knock speed?
Add weight and he will probably lose speed.
2009 was like picking up a fat chick, You had a little fun, but you don't necessarily want to see it again.
Also, I am a huge fan of Adrian Zmed! Dance Fever and TJ Hooker rock!
he plays pretty fast
He ran a 4.49 at his Pro Day and a 4.53 at the combine. He’s not slow. And with guys like that, sometimes you and muscle and can carry the pads better, so you don’t lose much on the field.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Mar 21, 2010 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions
good to know
I thought the guy played pretty good last year. Is it possible that we are not going to go after a receiver and that we have the ingredients for a solid receiving corps. More time with Henne at the helm will help.
2009 was like picking up a fat chick, You had a little fun, but you don't necessarily want to see it again.
Also, I am a huge fan of Adrian Zmed! Dance Fever and TJ Hooker rock!
So what we got a really good #2 and a great slot?
The only wisdom is the knowledge that you don't know.
And, as always, screw the JETS!!!!!!!!
pretty much, unless he develops into a "Miles Austin"
which is possible, but will probably take another year or two if it happens.
And it’s always possible that one of the other guys on the roster will step up this year, like Turner or Pruitt.
what do you think?
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Mar 20, 2010 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I still don't expect much out of either Pruitt or Turner
I think they (and Grice-Mullen) have a shot to take out Camarillo or Ginn, but Hartline and Bess will still be the best recievers (sans a #1) at the end of the season.
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Hartline is going to be one heck of a WR for a long long time barring the "i" word
I have last season DVRd and I watch games over and over and some of the adjustments he makes while the ball is in the air or to give Henne more space to throw is really amazing to me,especially for a rook.
Sparano says that Hartline “gets it” and the more you see of him the more obvious it is…I see leaps and bounds out of him because he is definetly QB friendly.
by firedanhenningnow on Mar 21, 2010 4:46 AM EDT up reply actions
hahahaha, Jackson, Jackson and Colston are your e.g.s to Hartline???
Wow Lefty, thats some weak sauce bro, lol, all with at least 62 catches 1000yds and 9 TDs, their numbers prove their worth, those are horrible examples to start your argument with, you gettin sloppy in your old age bro, lol.
The rest of this will be answered in post form Lefty my friend, you got me going, lol, you are the master and I bow down to your ability, I needed a reason to write a post and you gave me one, your my own personal Jesus man, lol.
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by uncle finster on Mar 21, 2010 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions
dude, do you read my comments or just a few words and then just try to guess the rest?
nothing in what i said equates Hartline to those guys. Or has your eyesight just finally gotten that bad?
Re-read it and then write an appropriate rebuttal.
=)
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Mar 21, 2010 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions
Hmmm... there is no response to our hail Captain...
It’s beginning to look like there may be no intelligent life left in this sector.
Or did you just re-read it and realize how off base your response was, and are somewhat embarrassed by it?
;-)
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Mar 22, 2010 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions
LOL, wishful thinking,
you brought up those three players to say that if I say that Bess is better based on the fact that he caught more passes then Hartline, then hes better than these guys too, which is saying that they equate, that is a bad comparison and doesn’t work, sorry Lefty.
Comparing 76 to 31 is not the same as 76 to 62, 68 or 70, so they do not equate.
So, like I was saying,……weak sauce, lol.
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by uncle finster on Mar 22, 2010 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
Well it's about damn time!
i brought up those 3 players to say your logic was faulty. i am saying that “IF what you are proposing is valid, THEN what you say above would be true”… which I do NOT agree with.
IF you are just saying Bess is better because he caught more balls, THEN that would make Bess also better than Jackson, Jackson, and Colston, which I think is a ridiculous proposition.
There is nothing about it that says that Hartline is better than those guys. you are adding that on your own, without merit in the logic of such an inference.
The statement is simply that it is, as you say, “weak sauce” to simply state that Bess is better than Hartline because he caught more passes.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Mar 22, 2010 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions
The "facts" are that Hartline contributed twice as many points as Bess
and was more of a downfield threat. He also had over 3x less fumbles. THOSE are facts, and they certainly don’t support your opinion that Bess is the better WR.
=)
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Mar 22, 2010 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions
But Bess caught over twice as many as Hartline,
did Bess catch twice as many as those three, no, yet you used them to try to make your point, again that is a bad example, since you are inferring that less receptions = less receptions, that 14 less receptions equates to 45 less receptions, and that just doesn’t wash.
You can certainly make a strong case, practically iron clad, that having 45 more receptions then a guy with 31 makes him a better WR, those numbers speak for themselves, but as I said I’m doing a post, my argument will be there, see you there Lefty.
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by uncle finster on Mar 22, 2010 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions
so you keep threatening
although I have yet to see anything of substance
;-)
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Mar 23, 2010 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
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by uncle finster on Mar 20, 2010 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions
thats the problem is Bess worth Welker money??
I dont think so
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Mar 20, 2010 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions
not really, oh wait how about
Percy Harvin. He plays the slot a lot.
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yeah he is the only other one i could think of
maybe steve breaston but i think he will be the number 2 with boldin gone. they are both in the nfc though. 2nd best in afc isnt bad for an undrafted receiver
draft micah johnson
Harvin can do everything
talk about an asset. And if there weren’t 3 other #1s in Minnesota, he’d be a #1
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Glad they got this done early,
esp with Bess and DC$, I see Haynos as our 3rd TE this year if he even makes the team.
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i actually want
haynos to start, especially if we get brandon marshall, because then we already have to of the best catching, juking wide outs in the nfl, then we dont need a catching tight end we need a big red zone target like haynos
by Dolphins2010Future on Mar 20, 2010 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions
I feel like slot receivers are alot like RB's
you can always find one in the Draft. No point spending alot of money on that position
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
Bess is the man, DC$ is DC$. haynos is tall and could be a nice red zone target.
im happy we got them all back
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by el presidente 00 on Mar 20, 2010 3:47 PM EDT reply actions
multi-year contracts take longer.
this way he is signed and based on what happens in the draft and camp, we have plenty of time to work out a longer contract.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Mar 20, 2010 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I am still confused
I mean this kid has proven what he can do, and where his heart is. Wouldnt it be smarter to sign Bess to a 4-5 year deal and lock him in while he would still be cheap as compared to if he maybe blows up next year?
good point
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by FinsFanDave on Mar 20, 2010 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I think he needs to be under contract to go to camp so they are probrably working on
the big multi year contract you’re talking about. This contract just lets him still work out with the team.
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And, as always, screw the JETS!!!!!!!!
I think Incognito really changes the outlook of the TEs
Very few plays seemed to be catered towards them, with them being used in blocking situations. Haynos sorta came alive in the redzone for a few games until he had to go back to blocking. I’d really like to see any of them get out more, otherwise drafting another TE is a complete waste.
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Good question.
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by texascowpunk on Mar 21, 2010 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions
we shoulda signed bess for longer
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