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Late Round Receivers


Well we all know the big time receiver prospects but what about the little known late round prospects.

Heres a couple that caught my eye: (after the jump)

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Stephen Williams

College: Toledo (all time leading receiver)

6-4 210 lbs

40 time: 4.5

Projected 6-7th round pick

Current NFL Player Comparison: Vincent Jackson

Williams also had the second best broad jump of all wide receivers at the combine with 10'5"

He's put up huge numbers with horrendous qb play. Hes a great endzone threat, an area where we've been severely lacking.

Career Statistics
Year GP REC YDS YPC TD
2005 RS - - - -
2006 10 6 87 14.5 1
2007 12 73 1,169 16.0 7
2008 12 71 781 11.0 8
2009 12 79 1,065 13.5 5
Totals 46 229 3,102 13.5

 

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Career stats from NFL Draft Countdown

 

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Stephen Williams Highlights (via Orioles158)

 

 

 

The second guy:

Seyi Ajirotutu 

College: Fresno State

6-3 204 lbs

40 time: 4.53

Projected: 5-6th rounder

Current NFL Player Comparison: Malcom Floyd

He led Fresno State in reception in his junior and senior year.

East-West Shrine game coach Marty Shottenheimer said he has been very impressed with size and speed of Seyi Ajirotutu. Comparing him to the likes of San Diego receivers Vincent Jackson and Malcom Floyd - Kcchiefs.com

According to CDSDraft.com Ajirotutu's "classic height/weight combination and physicality make him  a threat to go up and win any contended pass. Uses physical size to dominate downfield as run blocker - made several key "TD blocks" for running backs over the season. Solid route running skills."

His stats are pretty good even thought Fresno State is a run first offense. He led them in every receiving category.

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These guys kinda remind me of a guy we already have.

These guys would bring the same set of skill set as Pat Turner last years 3rd rounder, these guys are slightly more athletic but still bring that physical presence at the wr position.
With that been said, i’d be wrapped if we pick up any of these guys in the later rounds of the draft.

by aquandy on Mar 17, 2010 11:12 PM EDT reply actions  

when ive watched film of turner

he doesnt use his size to his advantage. isnt physical and doesnt always go up for the ball. both these guys use their size and toughness and also have decent speed for separation.

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by Davone_Is_BessT on Mar 18, 2010 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

last thing we need is a late round reciever

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by Deuce Black on Mar 17, 2010 11:15 PM EDT reply actions  

the team with arguably the worst receiving core in the league doesnt need to try and find a late round gem wr.
ya that makes a lot of sense

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by Davone_Is_BessT on Mar 17, 2010 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

late round gem? really

late round player need time to develop and people have shown they have no patience..look at pat turner

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by Deuce Black on Mar 18, 2010 8:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

fans have shown no patience

the FO has shown patience.. It’s not a bad thing to bring in a late-round WR. Most late-round picks don’t work out, so it’s fine to take a chance on an athletic freak and hope something clicks with him. If not, you practice squad him and give him another year.. until he either gets it and can contribute, or shows he can’t and you cut him.

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by Little Nicky 21 on Mar 18, 2010 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

true thats what i meant

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by Deuce Black on Mar 18, 2010 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice post

Williams looks solid, but its so hard to tell…

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by David Dwork on Mar 17, 2010 11:18 PM EDT reply actions  

agreed u can never tell for sure until you put him in an NFL uni

btw sucks that charlotte won =(
and u doing good health wise now?

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by Davone_Is_BessT on Mar 17, 2010 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Carlton Mitchell..

Unless he’s another Ramses Barden.

Well, that’s unfair. The receivers on that roster are unfair.

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by Dave.Phuller on Mar 17, 2010 11:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Williams i like better

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by DPL3 Rollin on Mar 18, 2010 12:08 AM EDT reply actions  

Seyi

He’s a solid receiver. Its tough to say how good he might be. His junior year he had Tom Brandstater throwing to him. His senior year he had somebody throwing to the the other team. He might be worth a 6th though or UDFA. AJ Jefferson would be a nice Late round pick-up, but, His combine pushed him into the third.

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by FinFanFromCA on Mar 18, 2010 12:35 AM EDT reply actions  

I like Williams but I always get excited and then we dont get him or anybody I was thinking we would draft

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by Weecho85 on Mar 18, 2010 12:43 AM EDT reply actions  

LOL i feel ya.

but its still kool to know the late round guys so its still interesting to watch the later rounds of the draft.

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by Davone_Is_BessT on Mar 18, 2010 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

of course I like Desmond Briscoe too. And some other white guy that Matty I mentioned a while back

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With the #12 pick in the 2010 Draft the Miami Dolphins pick ...... CJ SPILLER!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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OOOOOOOOO C-A-N-E-S AHHHHH(crowd yelling at kickoff!!!)

by Weecho85 on Mar 18, 2010 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

idk briscoe to me looks like another limas sweed waiting to happen

but ya hes more of a 3rd-4th rounder

and could the white guy be eric decker?

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by Davone_Is_BessT on Mar 18, 2010 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

yea thats him

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by Weecho85 on Mar 18, 2010 1:26 AM EDT reply actions  

oops wrong comment box

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by Weecho85 on Mar 18, 2010 1:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

How late we talking?

Cause I really like Williams.

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by Kdog92 on Mar 18, 2010 5:52 AM EDT reply actions  

Williams

You gotta like the way he attacks the ball in the air. Wouldn’t be a bad project in the 6th.

by Rumple Pigskin on Mar 18, 2010 10:31 AM EDT reply actions  

Could also consider

Scott Long (Lousville)
Height: 6-2. Weight: 216.
Combine 40 Time: 4.46.
Vertical: 41.5. Broad: 10-3
Had 53 Catcehs for 727 yards and 2 TDs

That’s USF FS Nate Allen (#5) in the background (In case anyone might find that interesting). To quote ESPN relating to Long “Long can stretch the field, fight off a jam at the line of scrimmage and go over the middle for tough first down.” I would like to see us take a chance on him with one of our 5 late picks (maybe #182).

AND / OR

David Gettis (Baylor)
Height: 6-3. Weight: 216.
Combine 40 Time: 4.47.
Pro Day 40 Time: 4.39.
Vertical: . Broad: 10-4
Questions abound on his 40 time but it will still be under 4.5 at 6-3. Had 52 receptions for 675 yards and 3 TDs and has Kick-return capability that could transalte to punt returns. I’m not too sure of his hands and wouldn’t favor him before pick #216 though.

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by TheFinReaper on Mar 18, 2010 11:15 AM EDT reply actions  

Scott Long compares (numerically) favorable to Miles Austin (the similarities are striking)

Scott Long 6-2.1 216 40yard = 1.49/2.58/4.46 20Shuttle = 4.09 3Cone = 6.45 Bench (225) = 20 Vertical = 41.5 Broad = 10’3"
Miles Austin 6-2.1 215 40yard = 1.56/2.64/4.47 20Shuttle = 4.14 3Cone = 7.09 Bench (225) = 21 Vertical = 40.5 Broad = 10’3"

1st: Earl Thomas S; 2nd: Lamarr Houston NT/DE; 3rd: Linval Joseph NT; 4th: Adrian Tracy OLB; 6A: Crezdon Butler CB; 6B: Deji Karim RB; 6C: Stevenson Sylvester ILB; 7A: Jameson Konz TE; 7B: Scott Long WR; UDFA: Bobby Sewall WR;

by DolphDallas on Mar 18, 2010 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

So can I consider you

With me on the Go “Scott” Long at pick #177 bandwagon then? He’s one of the options I have for us at that pick or #223 in my new mock that I’m working on (I plan to post after free agency has wound down, maybe another week).

NY Jets = NFL's Chicago Cubs

There's a fine line between hopeful and desperate. Just look @ Jets fans.

by TheFinReaper on Mar 18, 2010 1:03 PM EDT reply actions  

I guess I'm on "Take Scott Long at #223 Bandwagon" for now, but as you have probably observed...

my signature changes practically every day…
Right now I’m on the Go “Jameson Konz at pick #177” bandwagon…but that could change…

1st: Earl Thomas S; 2nd: Lamarr Houston NT/DE; 3rd: Linval Joseph NT; 4th: Adrian Tracy OLB; 6A: Crezdon Butler CB; 6B: Deji Karim RB; 6C: Stevenson Sylvester ILB; 7A: Jameson Konz TE; 7B: Scott Long WR; UDFA: Bobby Sewall WR;

by DolphDallas on Mar 18, 2010 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

What Position?

He’s started as most of ‘06 at OLB, and I’ve seen him listed as a FB and as a WR. He’s also coming off of a knee injury so he will certainly be around at #177 and will almost be guaranteed of slipping down to #223. He sounds like he might have some good TE potential but I would still be surprised based on the lack of Pro Day attendance by scouts (reportedly only Cleveland’s) if he went before #182 which is our last 6th round pick. I love what I hear about him but I don’t know where he will end up based on playing at Kent State, coming off a knee injury, and having such an incredible workout (workout warrior perhaps?).

NY Jets = NFL's Chicago Cubs

There's a fine line between hopeful and desperate. Just look @ Jets fans.

by TheFinReaper on Mar 18, 2010 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

My big concern as far as drafting him at #177

is that he is ranked (by 2010 draft scout) as the 254th best player available when there may only be 254 selections in the draft. The late rounds will see fluctuations based on need but I don’t see him moving up (based on team need by more than 75 picks). Both Konz and Long are reaches before the 7th round (at least until actual picks start getting made) but I put Long ahead because he is a natural WR and Konz hasn’t really settled into any position except OLB and he’s undersized at 234 lbs for a TE.

NY Jets = NFL's Chicago Cubs

There's a fine line between hopeful and desperate. Just look @ Jets fans.

by TheFinReaper on Mar 18, 2010 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I did a little research on him...Develop him as a monster Free Safety: 6-31/2 234

He can tackle (he was an OLB), he can catch (he caught 21-298 and 2 TDs) and he can run (he ran a 4.46 40 so they asked him to run it again…and he got a 4.38)
I’m easily impressed by workout warriors…put me in “The Konz” Bandwagon

1st: Earl Thomas S; 2nd: Lamarr Houston NT/DE; 3rd: Linval Joseph NT; 4th: Adrian Tracy OLB; 6A: Crezdon Butler CB; 6B: Deji Karim RB; 6C: Stevenson Sylvester ILB; 7A: Scott Long WR; 7B: Jameson Konz TE/WR/FS; UDFA: Bobby Sewall WR;

by DolphDallas on Mar 18, 2010 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Be careful of the rush to love a Workout Warrior.

Many of them prove to be little more than good at drills. Kinda like a blind man memorizing an eye test chart beforehand. He gets perfect test scores but outside of that environment, he is still blind as a bat.

NY Jets = NFL's Chicago Cubs

There's a fine line between hopeful and desperate. Just look @ Jets fans.

by TheFinReaper on Mar 18, 2010 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I saw Jameson Konz as a TE, but in the mode of a David Martin 2nd TE on the edge...

so really just a glorified WR (the elusive #1 wide receiver we are all looking for…who can jump 46 inches).
If he played OLB, then he’s gonna make a roster as a special teams player anyway. I think he is worth developing as a wide receiver. Forget running patterns, just throw it up for grabs and let him leap for it.
Okay, you’ve convinced me (not that it was that hard). Sign me up for the Long at #177 Bandwagon.
I’ve moved on “The Konz” at #223 Bandwagon.

1st: Earl Thomas S; 2nd: Lamarr Houston NT/DE; 3rd: Linval Joseph NT; 4th: Adrian Tracy OLB; 6A: Crezdon Butler CB; 6B: Deji Karim RB; 6C: Stevenson Sylvester ILB; 7A: Scott Long WR; 7B: Jameson Konz TE; UDFA: Bobby Sewall WR;

by DolphDallas on Mar 18, 2010 2:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Maybe a new bandwagon is in order.

The Go “Scott” Long with King KONZ bandwagon.

I definitely agree with the throw it up for him idea and would be stunned if he didn’t at least fall into the category of Special Teams Specialist as a rookie. I could absolutely see him as a 2nd TE set kind of threat since he could block and run out short to the left while we fake a handoff right with an unbalanced line to shift the D to the right.

This Formation: TE2 LG C RG LT RT TE1 WR (About halfway down the page, referred to as 4 to one side)
                     
Should go for at least a first down if the goes more to the right side (since he won’t have a WR assignment) but most good CBs would sniff this out and we’d only pull it off once before opponents get wise to it.

Still, MONSTER intangibles.

NY Jets = NFL's Chicago Cubs

There's a fine line between hopeful and desperate. Just look @ Jets fans.

by TheFinReaper on Mar 18, 2010 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Interesting formation...I was thinking of a more traditional TE split out wide (can you say STOP FADE ALL DAY)

The GO LONG and KING KONZ bandwagon. I like it!

1st: Earl Thomas S; 2nd: Lamarr Houston NT/DE; 3rd: Linval Joseph NT; 4th: Adrian Tracy OLB; 6A: Crezdon Butler CB; 6B: Deji Karim RB; 6C: Stevenson Sylvester ILB; 7A: Scott Long WR; 7B: Jameson Konz TE/WR/FS; UDFA: Bobby Sewall WR;

by DolphDallas on Mar 18, 2010 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

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