Ted Ginn: Common Misconception Affecting some Perceptions?
by Deuce Black on Mar 16, 2010 11:09 PM EDT
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"Your going to be thrilled every time you watch him as a punt returner because hes going to be a great returner for us." -Cam Cameron
Ted Ginn was drafted to be a kick returner with some big play ability on offense as well. There is no way to justify taking a kick returner/ raw receiver with a top ten pick. With that being said Being taken that high people expected him to be something he wasn't... a #1 receiver. It wasn't his fault he was chosen way before his slot or the fact that Cam Cameron took his "family" along for the ride, but at the end of the day Ginns taking the bashing for it. Because of those preconceived notions Ginn doesn't get nearly as much credit as he is due. In his third year many like to classify him as a bust, but yet he has managed to see his way on the field through the two regimes hes been with and for the most part produced. That statement cant be said for other players classified under the same category.
Ted Ginn: The Returner
So Ginn was drafted primarily because of his return skills but yet by most Dolphins Fans he is considered an average kick returner at best.
2007 Week 5 CLE: 96 yard kickoff return TD (Nullified by penalty, D.Hagan)
2007 Week 10 BUF: 86 yard kickoff return TD (Nullified by penalty, G.Camarillo)
2007 Week 10 PHI: 87 yard punt return TD
2008 Week 10 SEA: 100 yard kickoff return TD (Nullified by penalty, C.Anderson)
2009 Week 8 NYJ: 100 kickoff return yard TD
2009 Week 8 NYJ: 101 kickoff return yard TD
1 or 2 penalties is understandable but 3 you know you have some bad luck. If none of those penalties occured Ginn wouldve had 5 Kick return touchdowns to his name just 3 shy from the record set by Joshua Cribbs(8) and considering how in 08' Patrick Cobbs and Davone Bess had a majority of the return load thats pretty impressive not average.
Ted Ginn: The Deep Threat
There is also alot of misconception about Ginn the receiver more specifically the deep threat. If you haven't heard or found out already Ginn is NOT a #1 receiver, but that in now way means he cant be a playmaker in this offense. in 07' some people forget we went 1-15 when evaluating Ginns rookie year. The offense was a circus and the quarterback position was a carausel. In 08' brought stability but not until after a rough start. After Ginn broke out in week 8 against the bills he was consistently making plays each week after. Another thing people dont understand is that as well as Pennington has played with Ginn his potential wouldnt be reached until he had someone to hit him in stride.
With Pennington
2008 Week 8 BUF: 1st play from scrimmage was a pass deep right for 46 yards. That 46 couldve easily been 80 for the fact that Ginn had to wait on the ball which gave time for McGhee to close on him.
2008 Week 10 SEA: Pennington, flea flicker deep middle 39 yards Ginn split both corner and safety over the top. This play was important because it showed the chemistry that Pennington and Ginn had gained. Camarillo was wide open but Pennington insisted on throwing to Ginn who was double covered.
2008 week 12 NE: Pennington, pass deep left to Ginn who had corner Ellis Hobbs beat but waited for the ball to 46 yard completion.
2008 Week 17 NYJ: Pennington, flea flicker deep middle 44 yards Ginn had split the double coverage and on a under thrown ball came back to make the catch.
With Henne
Week 5 NYJ: C.Henne deep middle 53 yards TD on Darrelle Revis. That was the only touchdown Revis had allowed all year.
Week 16 HOU: C.Henne, pass deep middle 62 yard TD (Nullified by penalty, Lousaka Polite)
Henne has a lot of arm and Ginn has a lot of speed, with a whole offseason together Henne and Ginn should gain chemistry the same way he did with Pennington. So the argument that Ginns potential wont be tapped until Henne is in at Q holds some weight.
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Trying to convince people that Ginn is a decent player is like trying to argue in favor of George W. Bush No one wants to hear it.
I agree with you though. I like him as a player, I was dissappointed to see him lose confidence like he did. I’ll give you a rec in the spirit of Dub-Ya.
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by Deuce Black on Mar 16, 2010 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions
o thanks for for that man i appreciate it =/
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by Deuce Black on Mar 16, 2010 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions
I guess we've said it all about Teddy. Good point Matty, LOL!
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by Phins4life2334 on Mar 18, 2010 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions
Ginn's fine.
He’s a productive player at a reasonable rate.
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I agree with every word. This is my entire argument when Ginn issues come up. Nicely done.
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I agree....
Bashing the guy is definintely not gonna boost his confidence by any means. I just looked up some of the mock drafts from the 07 class and he was rated by some as the 2nd best WR and by most others he was rated as the 3rd best WR. I still feel the guy will produce when he is lined up opposite an elite WR. He may not be a true #1 WR but I feel he can still be a great #2. Hopefully Sporano and company will allow Henne some more freedom to make some big plays. There were too many times last year that Ginn had both the corner and safety beat and Henne would drop the ball off to an underneath reciever.
by usualsuspect609 on Mar 17, 2010 1:28 AM EDT reply actions
It's just sooo frustrating to watch him try and catch a pass hahaha!!
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by GEtSICK13 on Mar 17, 2010 2:11 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
You can't justify him not being a bust by highlighting a few good games.
Here’s some stats for you:
Ted Ginn: The Returner
2007: Led NFL in number of kick returns, for 0 TDs and 29th in AVG. 6th in PR AVG, 1 TD.
2008: 37th in KR AVG and 0 TDs, taken off PR duties (7 RET for 54 YDS, 7.7 AVG in spot duty)
2009: 13th in KR AVG and 2 TDs, taken off PR duties again (5 RET for 28 YDS, 5.6 AVG in spot duty)
Sure you can argue about the two TDs he had called back, but how do you justify such a horrible return average? When you get benched in favor of two players who are much, much slower than you are…….you know you have issues as a returner.
As for Ted Ginn the receiver, while he may benefit from having a true #1 opposite him, he still has too many glaring issues regarding physicality, hands, and mental toughness.
I used to think I had a drinking problem.
So I stopped thinking.
yup
I’m not going here again. Everyone knows we need number one wr. Everyone knows we got a handful of #2 WRs and not one of them is Ted Ginn. Everyone was knows that Ginn being the 9th pick in the draft is a bust.
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You call him a bust just because he was picked 9th overall
and not except him for the player he really is
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Nobody's arguing that he is a #1 receiver..
My argument on the guy is that even if he’s solely a KR, he’s worth the roster spot at this point in time. He is a threat to take it to the house on every return.
I’m sure if they got a big-bodied, potential number one guy, they’d let him focus solely on special teams play and would be fine. The guy seems to be all about confidence. He doesn’t have what it takes to be a number one receiver, so why kill his confidence by making him out to be something he never will be?
Doesn’t mean he doesn’t have value, and I’m sick of the “bust” argument.
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by Dave.Phuller on Mar 18, 2010 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions
But he's not even a good KR.
If he was in the top 10 in KR avg each of his 3 years, then I’d say you were justified in your argument, but he’s not.
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So I stopped thinking.
watch the returns
our spec teams blocking is horrendous
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by Davone_Is_BessT on Mar 18, 2010 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions
Read my comment a little further down.
Stop using blocking as an excuse.
I used to think I had a drinking problem.
So I stopped thinking.
Did you even read the post? Thats was the whole point
He did lead the NFL with number of kick returns with nothing to show f or it.Ginn returned 2 TDs in 07’ that got nullified so you bringing up that average is irrelevant..if his returns counted his average would clearly be higher
in 08 Ginn didnt even return kicks full time so you bringing up that average is also irrelevant , and ginn wasnt benched in favor of two player that were slower than him the coaching staff took him off return duties so that he can focus on being a wr and you still claim he has issues as a returner?
And he finished 09’ 13th considering patrick cobbs held the duties before he tor his acl
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Give Ginn a full year of return duties and some good blocking and see what happens
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by DPL3 Rollin on Mar 17, 2010 9:38 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Do you think maybe he got those long reurns that were called back because of holding..
Because people held defenders that would have tackled him? Just maybe?
Henne is the QB of the Miami Dolphins. Good.
Trade Brown? Are you smoking crack?
Hartline will be the Dolphins #2 for years to come. Kid has IT
We need this pass D to STEP THE F UP and do what they get paid to do!
We dont need a 30+ receiver we need younger, Bowe or Marshall will do fine
by MainePhinFan on Mar 17, 2010 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Are you sure about that?
Let’s count those two returns and see what happens……
Wow, he moved up to 15th. Still pretty disappointing if you ask me.
In ‘08 he had 32 KRs. Which was the most by any Dolphin, so if he wasn’t doing it full time, who was?
As for 09’, yes, he did finish 13th. Which is still not what you’d expect from somebody everyone says has the potential to take it all the way everytime.
I used to think I had a drinking problem.
So I stopped thinking.
How can you justify such a horrible return average....
Have you watched any dolphins games? Our blockers are so horrible I dont blame Ginn for going down easy and running out of bounds. How can you get production out of a return man if you dont have productive blockers? Ginn always has 2 guys running free right at him; should he take the hit and fumble the ball?
by usualsuspect609 on Mar 17, 2010 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I've watched every game the past three years.
He has no vision when it comes to the return game, nor is he willing to try and fight through tacklers to get a few extra yards or possibly break a tackle. Good returners don’t need great blocking, they find the seams and make people miss. Ted Ginn is not one of those people.
I used to think I had a drinking problem.
So I stopped thinking.
um listen
you are not supposed to make 5 people miss at your own 10-15 yard line… ginn runs by them and out so he doesnt get layed out by a crowd of people our blockers have missed.
give him a solid seem and he’ll burst right through it. and nobody other than you expects a skinny kr to fight through tacklers. maybe if your a pure returner than fine but if your being counted on to stay on the field and be the number one guy on offense as well then no.
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by Davone_Is_BessT on Mar 18, 2010 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Ted Ginn can't make one or two people miss, let alone 5.
He runs by them and out, because he’s afraid of contact. I’ve watched enough games to know it’s not all the blockers fault. I’ll give you 50%, but that other half is all Ginn.
I used to think I had a drinking problem.
So I stopped thinking.
maybe it is, maybe it isnt
we wont know till ginn gets some decent blockers.
at least we can agree that we need to upgrade our special teams group.
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by Davone_Is_BessT on Mar 18, 2010 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions
For a fair comparison..where do our other returners rank?
Same blockers and only difference is the returner so that should tell us if it’s the returner or the blockers shouldn’t it?
by firedanhenningnow on Mar 18, 2010 1:01 AM EDT up reply actions
Here's the stats (and keep in mind these guys aren't half as fast as Ginn)
Cobbs: 2009 – 16 returns for 22.6
2008 – 8 returns for 23.6
Bess: 2008 – 14 returns for 22.2
So the much slower Cobbs and Bess both had better return averages than Ginn did in 2008. Yes, they had less returns, but together they had only 10 less returns for 3 more yards per return.
I used to think I had a drinking problem.
So I stopped thinking.
SI has Ginn listed as 24.9 and "quickness" means much more than being fast
in any situation concerning creating space whether it be off the LOS,breaking off a route or changing direction on a dime on returns.
All the top tier returners possess quickness and need it to make the first guy miss but in our case it would be to make the first 5 guys miss IMO and since Cobbs and Bess are much quicker than Ginn but didn’t have a better average then they or the ST unit really sucks.
by firedanhenningnow on Mar 18, 2010 3:28 AM EDT up reply actions
It's not Cobbs and Bess' quickness that accounts for their better AVG.
It’s the fact they don’t go down from the first contact, and don’t run out of bounds to avoid that first contact either. Ginn is faster and quicker than both of them, but it’s his inability to take contact that causes him to miss holes. Ultimately resulting in a lower AVG in the long run.
I used to think I had a drinking problem.
So I stopped thinking.
what the hell bra ginn didnt fuckin have return duties
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What the hell bra????
Check the stats. Ginn had the most kick returns than any other Dolphin that year. Do your homework.
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wow good job deuce black
this is my exact argument for ginn too. its not his fault he was taken so high. i still like him, and im rooting for him..
lets face it. the guy is going no where
and i dont have a problem with that. as a person i like the guy. and as a player i think he is decent. with some confidence i think he can do some damage in this league. i dont see this FO giving up that easy on a number 9 pick, which it is not his fault he was picked there, unless they get a good draft or player in return.
good job though. rec’d
draft micah johnson
How many elite Kick Returners get tackled by the kicker at the 19 yard line? TWICE
nuff said
Jay Feely > Ted Ginn
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How many kick returners score back to back touchdowns in a crucial game in which the Dolphins offense had NOTHING going.
Ted Ginn > Jay Feely
nuff said
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by ZzzestyCabbage on Mar 17, 2010 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions
SO one great game makes him elite?
not so much
Henne is the QB of the Miami Dolphins. Good.
Trade Brown? Are you smoking crack?
Hartline will be the Dolphins #2 for years to come. Kid has IT
We need this pass D to STEP THE F UP and do what they get paid to do!
We dont need a 30+ receiver we need younger, Bowe or Marshall will do fine
by MainePhinFan on Mar 17, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Ginn was the #9 pick in the draft and with that comes expectations that he hasn't lived up too!
Let's get offensive this offseason!
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not sure he even thought he was getting drafted that high
he cant draft himself. the FO at that time drafted him. if you want to blame anyone for him being the 9th pick blame them.
draft micah johnson
All the mock drafts I saw...
Didnt expect him to go until at least the 22nd pick. Once again you say there were expectations being the 9th pick… go blame Cam Cameron.
by usualsuspect609 on Mar 17, 2010 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
#9, #22 Does it matter?
He is still a first round bust!
Let's get offensive this offseason!
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it's "lived up to"
and the point is if you remove where he was drafted from the equation, ginn is productive.
If Nolan thinks we can start a rookie FS with success, then I'm all for it. Otherwise, I really REALLY hate to see us endup with both a weak pass and run defense... So otherwise get the NT!
But you can't remove where he was drafted from the equation.
You paid for a mercedes and got a yugo. He is a bust based on where he was drafted and how much he is paid. Is Heyward-Bey a bust in Oakland? Was Mike Williams a bust in Detroit? How about David Terrell for the Bears? Looking back, which is easy to do, did either of those guys deserve to get drafted where they did? Ted Ginn is the same guy.
Plus, he isn’t productive. He ranked 94th in the league in receiving yards. With him returning kicks, the Phins ranked 12th in the league.
Let's get offensive this offseason!
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mike williams is a bust because he was projected to go in the top ten
are you really going to throw in DHB clearly the raiders dont know what there doing
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by Deuce Black on Mar 17, 2010 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ginn wasn't projected as a mid round pick, he was projected in the early to mid teens
And the only reason he was that low was because of his injury that he sustained in the championship game. Let’s assume Ginn was taken 10 picks too early and was chosen at #19. Does that change anything in our perception of his play to this point? I don’t think so. He is still a first round bust.
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theres a difference between a top ten pick and a mid round player ginns skill set may be
top ten but he wasnt polished as a reciever wich is why he wasnt supposed to go #9 but regaurdless he wouldve gone in the first
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ya if he was an undrafted FA ur right.. but he was not.
Henne is the QB of the Miami Dolphins. Good.
Trade Brown? Are you smoking crack?
Hartline will be the Dolphins #2 for years to come. Kid has IT
We need this pass D to STEP THE F UP and do what they get paid to do!
We dont need a 30+ receiver we need younger, Bowe or Marshall will do fine
by MainePhinFan on Mar 17, 2010 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions
To be honest, I usually don't agree with you
But here I couldn’t agree more. I think Ginn is a specialty player much like Reggie Bush is, and if he’s used properly he can be a game-breaker (see: Miami Dolphins @ New York Jets, Week 8 2009).
Maybe if we had some more creativity in our offense, we’d stop asking him to be the #1 and we would play to his specialties, which is speed. A speed guy is supposed to stretch the field, yet I still see him running things like hooks too often. If used the right way I think he could be a pretty good receiver, maybe 60+ catches and 800+ yards.
It's 2010 - do the smart thing. Draft Myron Rolle.
Exactly....
If we cant find something productive to do with Ginns speed, believe me, some other team will.
by usualsuspect609 on Mar 17, 2010 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Duece Tedd Ginn is Nothing More Than A KR/PR
Tedd was the same player I watched play at Ohio that he is today. If the Roster Numbers are correct we can keep him as a KR/PR.
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no he is more than a kr/pr
the guy can make plays on offense and most of all take the top off a defense
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once again like i said
just because he isnt a #1 doesnt mean he is useless
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by Little Nicky 21 on Mar 17, 2010 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Look At Jason Allen as a Comparison
There is J. Allen who we drafted in the 1st. Is he the guy Satin Saban said he was? NO. He goes out and plays special teams great. He also plays in some Dime and Nickle packages great. He has a relative cheap price tag. Ginn is a great Kick Returner and yes he can run past anyones secondary(He Just Can’t Catch the Ball). He also comes with a relatively cheap price tag. Until someone else comes along to replace these guys we keep them. Dare I say we once had a guy fastter then T. Ginn. His name was Mark Duper and he did not drop anything.
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by FinFanFromCA on Mar 17, 2010 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions
When did Ginn drop a ball that was over a 30 yard throw?
by usualsuspect609 on Mar 17, 2010 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Take It Away Snoop Dog
Here You Go.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYSxJgjjJFc
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by FinFanFromCA on Mar 17, 2010 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
like he said over 30 yards
and this kind of video can be made for any wr in the leauge better yet on our roster.
and think about it..some dolphin fan would have to have no life to create a video of tedd ginns drops this proof that people just love ted ginn
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by Deuce Black on Mar 17, 2010 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, but those other recievers can also make a video where they catch nice passes
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so can ted ginn
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You show me clip of that Sharper pick 6?.....
Like shown in Sports Illustrated the following week, who came back from 50 yards downfield to jar the ball loose from Sharpers hand at the 3 yard line, fumbling it into the endzone and out of bounds? This proves you people root against the guy because everyone know that Sharper pick was bullshit.
by usualsuspect609 on Mar 17, 2010 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Here now u can watch this...
href=“http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6lEl2wOn1A&NR=1&feature=fvwp” target="new">
by usualsuspect609 on Mar 17, 2010 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Link didnt work....
Its called best of ted ginn jr.
by usualsuspect609 on Mar 17, 2010 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Here!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6lEl2wOn1A&NR=1&feature=fvwp
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by texascowpunk on Mar 17, 2010 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
np
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by texascowpunk on Mar 17, 2010 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions
priceless that look on brett favre face ty
by wild zion beaver on Mar 17, 2010 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions
My favorite Favre face...
was when Phillip Merling read the screen play so perfectly, picking off Favre for a pick 6 to make us the AFC East champs.
by usualsuspect609 on Mar 17, 2010 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions
ahhhh - end of the Indy game in the end zone,,,would have won it
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d812d3096/NFLTA-Colts-vs-Dolphins-Highlights
about the 3:45 mark.
by PhrozenPhish on Mar 19, 2010 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions
I cant watch it. I just cant do it. The pain is too real!
"I hope you know a lot more than you believe in"-Gram Parsons
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
Currently one of three pilots for the new and improved SpillWagon fleet of Chinook’s.
by texascowpunk on Mar 19, 2010 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions
I love the Ginnja.
Driver of the Keep The Ginnja Bandwagon
Driver of the Make David Lee OC Bandwagon
Repentant Former Driver of the Trade-Ronnie-Brown Bandwagon.
I see
So, what you’re saying is that Ginn is just barely good enough not to trade for what we’d be able to get for him.
I think so.
He’s probably better than he’s worth..
It's what you learn after you know it all that counts. ~ John Wooden
The only reason.. ok maye not the ONLY reason but the number 1 reason they do not trade Ginn is because no team would ginve anything above a 6th for him.
He is sightly worth more then worthless.
Henne is the QB of the Miami Dolphins. Good.
Trade Brown? Are you smoking crack?
Hartline will be the Dolphins #2 for years to come. Kid has IT
We need this pass D to STEP THE F UP and do what they get paid to do!
We dont need a 30+ receiver we need younger, Bowe or Marshall will do fine
Ginn takes a lot of shit....
but he had 2 decent years given what he had to work with and then had a big game vs. IND (11 recs 108 yards), but dropped 2 passes in the end zone and got the shoulder the blame for us losing the game, which is unfair IMO.
he needs to get the monkey off his back.
"If you want to, we can throw all day." - Chad Henne
foreal
Hear you dudes beefin i aint sayin not one name, that'll be the day i give life to yall lil haters some of em older than me but ya all lil haters
-Wiz Khalifa
If i remember correctly...
Fasano also dropped the game winning TD in the IND game. He also lost 2 fumbles in the first couple of games and played half the season with what looked like 2 left hands. People seem to hate on Ginn because it seems like the cool thing to do. What other teams fans root aginst their players?
by usualsuspect609 on Mar 17, 2010 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions
i have never ever met a dolphins fan who roots against ted ginn
Im tryin to right my wrongs, but its funny how these same wrongs helped me write this song. - Mr. West
by Davone_Is_BessT on Mar 17, 2010 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree. Being disappointed in a players overall production is not the same as rooting against a guy.
I do not think any fan is going to root against him as long as he is still a Dolphin. I for one have been down on him like many others but I hope to God that he finds what ever it is that will make him a dependable receiver.
"I hope you know a lot more than you believe in"-Gram Parsons
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
Currently one of three pilots for the new and improved SpillWagon fleet of Chinook’s.
by texascowpunk on Mar 17, 2010 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions
exactly
Im tryin to right my wrongs, but its funny how these same wrongs helped me write this song. - Mr. West
by Davone_Is_BessT on Mar 17, 2010 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
uhhh hello theres a website full of them
Hear you dudes beefin i aint sayin not one name, that'll be the day i give life to yall lil haters some of em older than me but ya all lil haters
-Wiz Khalifa
There is?
"I hope you know a lot more than you believe in"-Gram Parsons
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
Currently one of three pilots for the new and improved SpillWagon fleet of Chinook’s.
by texascowpunk on Mar 17, 2010 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions
yea you should check it out when you get a chance
Hear you dudes beefin i aint sayin not one name, that'll be the day i give life to yall lil haters some of em older than me but ya all lil haters
-Wiz Khalifa
Once again I think your confusing people being disappointed with them
rooting against him or in other words hoping for more failure.
"I hope you know a lot more than you believe in"-Gram Parsons
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
Currently one of three pilots for the new and improved SpillWagon fleet of Chinook’s.
by texascowpunk on Mar 17, 2010 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions
No i know the difference but really though i think Ginn is just a punching bag to
tell you the truth last year when we were going 11-5 nobody was giving ginn shit but in that playoff game Pennington throws 4 pics but yet all we remember is that Ginn fumble on the reverse
Hear you dudes beefin i aint sayin not one name, that'll be the day i give life to yall lil haters some of em older than me but ya all lil haters
-Wiz Khalifa
by Deuce Black on Mar 17, 2010 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
There is no doubt that hes a punching bag on this site.
I would also agree that at times hes taken more than his share of blame. I for one have been on his case but at the same time I don’t believe that any Dolphin fans are hoping for failure when he hits the field.
"I hope you know a lot more than you believe in"-Gram Parsons
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
Currently one of three pilots for the new and improved SpillWagon fleet of Chinook’s.
by texascowpunk on Mar 17, 2010 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
watch that drop it like its hot video that finfanfromca posted
and tell me whoever made that wasnt hoping for failure
Hear you dudes beefin i aint sayin not one name, that'll be the day i give life to yall lil haters some of em older than me but ya all lil haters
-Wiz Khalifa
by Deuce Black on Mar 17, 2010 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Being pissed and making a video does not mean that someone
would not like to see him find his mojo. Yet once again two different things.
"I hope you know a lot more than you believe in"-Gram Parsons
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
Currently one of three pilots for the new and improved SpillWagon fleet of Chinook’s.
by texascowpunk on Mar 17, 2010 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
hoping for failure??
if ted ginn played well the same guy definitely would be making a highlight video of him!
Im tryin to right my wrongs, but its funny how these same wrongs helped me write this song. - Mr. West
by Davone_Is_BessT on Mar 17, 2010 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
This^
"I hope you know a lot more than you believe in"-Gram Parsons
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
Currently one of three pilots for the new and improved SpillWagon fleet of Chinook’s.
by texascowpunk on Mar 17, 2010 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions
what dolphin fan would be so "disappointed" in a
player that would cause them to create a video of their negative plays..ernest wilford was disappointing but nobody made a video of him..oh wait ernest didnt even see the field
Hear you dudes beefin i aint sayin not one name, that'll be the day i give life to yall lil haters some of em older than me but ya all lil haters
-Wiz Khalifa
by Deuce Black on Mar 17, 2010 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions
One video from one guy in no way paints the idea that
a large group of us are rooting against him.
"I hope you know a lot more than you believe in"-Gram Parsons
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
Currently one of three pilots for the new and improved SpillWagon fleet of Chinook’s.
by texascowpunk on Mar 17, 2010 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions
actually it does it shares a view of a large group because many people like to revert
to this vid to prove what a bust ted ginn is
Hear you dudes beefin i aint sayin not one name, that'll be the day i give life to yall lil haters some of em older than me but ya all lil haters
-Wiz Khalifa
by Deuce Black on Mar 17, 2010 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Claiming a guy is a bust and rooting for failure are not the same thing!
"I hope you know a lot more than you believe in"-Gram Parsons
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
Currently one of three pilots for the new and improved SpillWagon fleet of Chinook’s.
by texascowpunk on Mar 17, 2010 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
whoever made the video clearly roots for ted ginn
and im pretty sure he isnt the only guy that feels that way
Hear you dudes beefin i aint sayin not one name, that'll be the day i give life to yall lil haters some of em older than me but ya all lil haters
-Wiz Khalifa
by Deuce Black on Mar 17, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
No there are plenty of people that root for him.
I would argue that when hes in on a play that we all root for him even those of us that are not his biggest fan. No one wants to see a player hurt their team.
"I hope you know a lot more than you believe in"-Gram Parsons
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
Currently one of three pilots for the new and improved SpillWagon fleet of Chinook’s.
by texascowpunk on Mar 17, 2010 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
30 yards or more
There are at least 3 throws on that video that show 30 plus yard drops. Suspects ask for it I gave it. I’ve been a fan for 30 plus years and I want T. Ginn to do well. An I always have. But if your looking for someone to be PC and Fluff this guy. Come on. T. Ginn is a great KR in my opinion. If you think I’m going to drop a Franklin on weather or not he catches the game winner. Not going to happen. By the way I believe RZ posted that video in one of his posts a while back.
Leader of The Draft Derrick Morgan Express Train.
Know your enemy, know youself, fight 100 battle without defeat. Sun Tzu
1. D. Morgan OLB/DE
2. T. Cody NT
3. R. Jones FS/SS
by FinFanFromCA on Mar 17, 2010 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions
Lets be honest here....
Do you really think that all the negative feedback he recieves from Fin fans is helping his cause? What about Davone Bess? I think he looked horrible at the begining of the season. I think he fumbled twice in the same game. I understand that he came back and was producing like he was the year before but nobody hated on him at any point. My point is, even when Ginn is productive, people dont seem to realize or aknowledge that he can be a playmaker. Everyone just wants to dwell on the bad things he does. Same with Ricky Williams fumbling, what 3 or 4 times in 2 games, yet you dont here anyone talking about it.
by usualsuspect609 on Mar 17, 2010 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
agreed..you dont hear anyone talking bout it let alone
make a video of it
Hear you dudes beefin i aint sayin not one name, that'll be the day i give life to yall lil haters some of em older than me but ya all lil haters
-Wiz Khalifa
by Deuce Black on Mar 17, 2010 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree with the argument that seeing a lot of negative press is
not going to boost the guys confidence. The question is are we rooting for failure. This would basically be a fan saying “please drop it” every-time the ball is thrown to him or “please fumble”. That assertion is ridiculous.
Even the biggest Ginn hater on here would like to see him turn it around. Face it if your a fan you want all the players on your team to play well despite any previous history.
"I hope you know a lot more than you believe in"-Gram Parsons
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
Currently one of three pilots for the new and improved SpillWagon fleet of Chinook’s.
by texascowpunk on Mar 17, 2010 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions
I guarantee some people want him to drop balls...
Thinking that maybe the FO will decide that they want to get rid of him. If people didnt root aginst him, they wouldnt make so many negative posts about him.
by usualsuspect609 on Mar 17, 2010 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
If he turned it around then there would be no more issues.
Sure I guess you could find a stray person here or there that may root against him but its still the exception not the rule. I would also argue that those few and far between are not true fans so who really gives a damn? I have not made those post but certainly joined in. Like most I don’t want to see him fail. There is always the one or two guys in the group that are out there but for the most part I don’t buy it. We all want the best for out team and thats to see out players play to the best of their abilities.
"I hope you know a lot more than you believe in"-Gram Parsons
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
Currently one of three pilots for the new and improved SpillWagon fleet of Chinook’s.
by texascowpunk on Mar 17, 2010 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions
If people really want the best for our team...
Let them praise the guy when he deserves it and not harp on every little thing he does wrong. IMO, the negative feedback he reads only puts more pressure on the guy, and not in a good way. Do you think the other dolphin players come in the locker room and say “Hey Ginn you really sucked out there, I cant believe you cant catch the ball”. Two words: positive reinforcement.
by usualsuspect609 on Mar 17, 2010 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
No but show me a team that does not have a guy
at some point that the fans are down on. It just is what it is.
"I hope you know a lot more than you believe in"-Gram Parsons
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
Currently one of three pilots for the new and improved SpillWagon fleet of Chinook’s.
by texascowpunk on Mar 17, 2010 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions
Its one thing to be down on a guy for a game or two...
But you people are down on him everyday. People hate on Ginn during the offseason when hes not even playing the game.
by usualsuspect609 on Mar 17, 2010 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
"You people"? I am going to guess that you
are either new to this site or do not pay attention. I have, as many have, praised him when he has done well. I would not just throw around generalizations about the people on this site. There are over 3000 members so the opinions are all over the place on just about any subject including Ginn. I am sure that if he finds whatever it is that he needs to find that the pro Ginn post/comments will far outweigh the negative.
"I hope you know a lot more than you believe in"-Gram Parsons
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
Currently one of three pilots for the new and improved SpillWagon fleet of Chinook’s.
by texascowpunk on Mar 17, 2010 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions
New to posting but been following the site for a few years....
Didnt mean to offend you… its just a conversation. I didnt mean you specifically. And no I dont think the positive posts outweights the negative.
by usualsuspect609 on Mar 17, 2010 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree there is no way that there are more
positive post. I for one am sick of the “Tedd Ginn sucks” post. I just don’t buy that we as fans are sitting in our living-rooms on game day hoping that Ginn screws up. I guess there are those that hope he makes the one mistake that is so bad that hes cut on the spot but 99.9% of fans are praying that he goes out and contributes that week. Sure when he screws up then the venom comes out but thats human nature. We as fans invest a lot of time, emotion and in most cases a lot of money in out team. In one way we are the ones that drive this money shit called the NFL. We are ultimately the ones that pay these guys and I think we have a right to vent when we are frustrated with a guy. Once again I do not see this as rooting for a guy to just flat out fail.
"I hope you know a lot more than you believe in"-Gram Parsons
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
Currently one of three pilots for the new and improved SpillWagon fleet of Chinook’s.
by texascowpunk on Mar 17, 2010 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
do you understand Ginn has been hated before
he even suited up in a dolphin uniform
Hear you dudes beefin i aint sayin not one name, that'll be the day i give life to yall lil haters some of em older than me but ya all lil haters
-Wiz Khalifa
by Deuce Black on Mar 17, 2010 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Its happened to a lot of guys. Still does not make your point.
"I hope you know a lot more than you believe in"-Gram Parsons
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
Currently one of three pilots for the new and improved SpillWagon fleet of Chinook’s.
by texascowpunk on Mar 17, 2010 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions
im not talking about alot of guys im talking
about ginn and my point is that preconceived hate carried over into his career and for the most part is the reason why he doesnt get credit when hes due
Hear you dudes beefin i aint sayin not one name, that'll be the day i give life to yall lil haters some of em older than me but ya all lil haters
-Wiz Khalifa
by Deuce Black on Mar 17, 2010 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
Well the debate was if us fans were
rooting against him to fail or not. Are a lot of fans down on him to various degrees? Well sure. Theres no debate about that. There have been like 200 hundred anti and pro Ginn post on this site alone.
"I hope you know a lot more than you believe in"-Gram Parsons
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
Currently one of three pilots for the new and improved SpillWagon fleet of Chinook’s.
by texascowpunk on Mar 17, 2010 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
rec'd
entirely true
Im tryin to right my wrongs, but its funny how these same wrongs helped me write this song. - Mr. West
by Davone_Is_BessT on Mar 17, 2010 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
they dont post like mine are rare because of that fact
Hear you dudes beefin i aint sayin not one name, that'll be the day i give life to yall lil haters some of em older than me but ya all lil haters
-Wiz Khalifa
by Deuce Black on Mar 17, 2010 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
whoa hold your bladder buddy
Hear you dudes beefin i aint sayin not one name, that'll be the day i give life to yall lil haters some of em older than me but ya all lil haters
-Wiz Khalifa
by Deuce Black on Mar 17, 2010 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Even if people arent rooting against him per se....
Why do they have to point out every miniscule thing that he does wrong? Like I said, when Fasano, Bess and Ricky were coughing up the ball left and right, I dont recall seeing a post on this site saying these guys suck or need to be cut/traded.
by usualsuspect609 on Mar 17, 2010 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions
bess was UDFA
Fasono was half a 4th round pick
Ricky is a backup whose a dolphins legend that will retire in a year.
Ted ginn on the other hand was supposed to be our number 1 receiver, our future.
again not his fault at all but people get disappointed. there not rooting against him… there just pointing out that hes a failure at what he was drafted/destined to be.
Im tryin to right my wrongs, but its funny how these same wrongs helped me write this song. - Mr. West
by Davone_Is_BessT on Mar 17, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
TED GINN was not drafted to
be a #1 reciever
Hear you dudes beefin i aint sayin not one name, that'll be the day i give life to yall lil haters some of em older than me but ya all lil haters
-Wiz Khalifa
by Deuce Black on Mar 17, 2010 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions
when you draft a receiver
in the top 10 picks, you expect him to develop into a #1 receiver.
going into this year he was our #1 receiver.
Im tryin to right my wrongs, but its funny how these same wrongs helped me write this song. - Mr. West
by Davone_Is_BessT on Mar 17, 2010 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Just because he was our best reciever
(from a skill set perspective) doesnt mean hes our number #1 it just means he our best hope to produce big plays
Hear you dudes beefin i aint sayin not one name, that'll be the day i give life to yall lil haters some of em older than me but ya all lil haters
-Wiz Khalifa
by Deuce Black on Mar 17, 2010 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions
idk ive never known any team with a mindset
to draft a receiver in the top 10 and never expect him to become a #1 receiver.
my bad i just cant grasp that.
Im tryin to right my wrongs, but its funny how these same wrongs helped me write this song. - Mr. West
by Davone_Is_BessT on Mar 17, 2010 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Well it was Cam doing the drafting
but yes its a reasonable expectation to assume that any player taken top 10 will become a starter let alone the number one at that particular position.
"I hope you know a lot more than you believe in"-Gram Parsons
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
Currently one of three pilots for the new and improved SpillWagon fleet of Chinook’s.
by texascowpunk on Mar 17, 2010 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Well you seen the cam quote
he clearly had that mindset that he felt his return ability was elite and would aid the team tremendously to justify him taking him there
Hear you dudes beefin i aint sayin not one name, that'll be the day i give life to yall lil haters some of em older than me but ya all lil haters
-Wiz Khalifa
by Deuce Black on Mar 17, 2010 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions
doesnt mean he was right
Hear you dudes beefin i aint sayin not one name, that'll be the day i give life to yall lil haters some of em older than me but ya all lil haters
-Wiz Khalifa
by Deuce Black on Mar 17, 2010 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Sure but its still a reasonable expectation
that the guy will be much more than just a returner at that spot in the draft.
"I hope you know a lot more than you believe in"-Gram Parsons
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
Currently one of three pilots for the new and improved SpillWagon fleet of Chinook’s.
by texascowpunk on Mar 17, 2010 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions
cam was a dum ass
but he knew receivers dont come in nfl starter ready. the process was to use him as a returner and develop him into a starter.
Im tryin to right my wrongs, but its funny how these same wrongs helped me write this song. - Mr. West
by Davone_Is_BessT on Mar 17, 2010 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions
agreed kick returning was like a segway
Hear you dudes beefin i aint sayin not one name, that'll be the day i give life to yall lil haters some of em older than me but ya all lil haters
-Wiz Khalifa
by Deuce Black on Mar 17, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
ight so fans have a right to be disappointed that he didnt pan out?
Im tryin to right my wrongs, but its funny how these same wrongs helped me write this song. - Mr. West
by Davone_Is_BessT on Mar 17, 2010 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Well you need to take a look around ...
The FO that drafted him is no longer here. If the current FO was here in 2007, do you honestly believe Ginn would be their first pick?
by usualsuspect609 on Mar 17, 2010 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions
no
but thats not the point. the point is he was drafted that high and disappointed.
thats why hes ridiculed. not saying its fair to ginn but youve been asking why and thats the reason.
Im tryin to right my wrongs, but its funny how these same wrongs helped me write this song. - Mr. West
by Davone_Is_BessT on Mar 17, 2010 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions
No thats not what im asking...
Let people be disappointed, I really dont care. But dont hate on the guy every minute of everyday. Credit is given where credit is due, except with Ginn.
by usualsuspect609 on Mar 17, 2010 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I think if you look around there are plenty of people that defend him as well as bash him.
"I hope you know a lot more than you believe in"-Gram Parsons
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
Currently one of three pilots for the new and improved SpillWagon fleet of Chinook’s.
by texascowpunk on Mar 17, 2010 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Why do they have to point out every miniscule thing that he does wrong? Like I said, when Fasano, Bess and Ricky were coughing up the ball left and right, I dont recall seeing a post on this site saying these guys suck or need to be cut/traded.
o my bad thats what i thought that ^ was asking
but yes theres extreme hating on ginn but theres even more for gibril wilson because of his contract. big expectations that lead to big failures always results in hate. thats just the way it is… some 2pac for you lol
Im tryin to right my wrongs, but its funny how these same wrongs helped me write this song. - Mr. West
by Davone_Is_BessT on Mar 17, 2010 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions
I dont hate on Gibril much either...
Look at our position now; we have no starting FS for the upcoming year. I also think he should have had a chance to play under Nolan’s schemes. FS’s are not supposed to have as many tackles as Wilson did; this was due to our lack of rushing the QB. My point with what I said above is that Ginn gets hate all the time but I dont see the love when he does something good. And what Gibril thought when that tipped ball went right through his hands: it was all a dream- some Biggie Smalls for you.
by usualsuspect609 on Mar 17, 2010 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree on the lack of pass rush.
Improve that pass rush and that secondary will look ten times better.
"I hope you know a lot more than you believe in"-Gram Parsons
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
Currently one of three pilots for the new and improved SpillWagon fleet of Chinook’s.
by texascowpunk on Mar 17, 2010 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Without a doubt....
We cant put the outcome of a game in the hands of our second year corners; we need the defense to play as one unit instead of individual pieces. Hopefully our offseason accqusitions and the draft will really improve our defense.
by usualsuspect609 on Mar 17, 2010 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions
idk a lot of people gave ginn
credit for single handedly winning the jets game. before this year many had ginn in their top 5 fav players on the team. he just really let down a lot of people this year.
and as for the lack of a pass rush… at times yes it was true BUT the dolphins were tied 3rd in the league for most sacks (44).
Im tryin to right my wrongs, but its funny how these same wrongs helped me write this song. - Mr. West
by Davone_Is_BessT on Mar 17, 2010 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions
How did I know you were gonna say that...
Yeah I know its true but when we didnt get the sack, there was absolutely no pressure in the face of opposing QBs.I would rather give up that 3rd position in sacks to have constant pressure on the other teams QB. Getting pressure is what causes QBs to make that mistake and throw the ball early,allowing our secondary to shine. Many times last year we put the game in the hands of our young CBs and new FS.
by usualsuspect609 on Mar 18, 2010 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions
I have to agree. Too many times when
the game was on the line we were getting zero pressure on the QB. This can not be if you want to be successful. Sacks are great but consistent pressure is what will win you games defensively. We scored plenty of points in several of our losses but could not stop the other team from just marching right back down the field when it counted.
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by texascowpunk on Mar 18, 2010 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions
im glad gibril is gone. hes a strong safety. cannot play free safety. even when we signed him we knew he was one of the worst cover safeties when he won the superbowl with the giants. we were blinded by his tackles and hits.
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by Davone_Is_BessT on Mar 18, 2010 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions
You are correct sir...
Hes definetly a SS as opposed to a FS and thats why he had a lot of trouble. I cant say he was good but like I said, I feel he deserved another shot under Nolan.
by usualsuspect609 on Mar 18, 2010 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions
It was a money issue IMO.
No cap so you can dump overpaid guys without the cap hit.
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by texascowpunk on Mar 18, 2010 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions
He was definetly overpaid....
But I dont think bringing him back for less money is out of the realm of possiblity.
by usualsuspect609 on Mar 18, 2010 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions
No I could see that at a much reduced price.
I assume that they are waiting to see what else they can find on the open market, trade for or draft before bringing back some of these guys.
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by texascowpunk on Mar 18, 2010 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Except for Porter. He screwed himself
out of ever being brought back here.
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by texascowpunk on Mar 18, 2010 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions
Thats true....
But I dont think they released him based on performance; that was just to make them FO look better IMO. But I wouldnt want him back anyways. Hes too old and we are building for the future. Cameron Wake may be raw but as far as pass D goes Joey Porter was nothing special either and I feel Wake can fill his shoes.
by usualsuspect609 on Mar 18, 2010 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions
that guy was cool
until he opened his dumb mouth
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No he would not of but that fact does
not make the disappointment just vanish.
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by texascowpunk on Mar 17, 2010 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Nor was he destined to be
Hear you dudes beefin i aint sayin not one name, that'll be the day i give life to yall lil haters some of em older than me but ya all lil haters
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by Deuce Black on Mar 17, 2010 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions
You know the answer to this. He was
a first round pick. Is that his fault no but he sure as hell took that first round money.
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by texascowpunk on Mar 17, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
wow that was stupid so Ginn is going
to turn down money now and we actually have ginn fairly cheap for as high as he was drafted
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by Deuce Black on Mar 17, 2010 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions
Why is it stupid for a fan to expect
a player to live up to that kind of money? We all have to go to work and earn the money that we are paid. I’m not debating if anyone would have taken it I’m pointing out that he has not lived up to his contract in production.
By the way are you incapable of debating people without personal attacks?
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by texascowpunk on Mar 17, 2010 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions
You said
a first round pick is that his fault no but he sure as hell took that first round money
you said it wasnt ginns fault he was selected in the 9th slot. so with that 9th slot comes the money..your not going to pay a top ten pick mid round money thats why i said the fact you made that argument was stupid
and calm yourself nobody is attacking you personally
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by Deuce Black on Mar 17, 2010 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions
No my argument was that he did not
live up to that contract with his production.
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by texascowpunk on Mar 17, 2010 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions
well that contract came with his draft status
witch again was not his fault but that doesnt mean he cant be a quality player and when you look at those big plays downfield ginn can be that guy
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by Deuce Black on Mar 17, 2010 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree but I also can see why fans
who have to live up to the money that they are given in their profession are less than thrilled with what they have gotten for their money so far.
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by texascowpunk on Mar 17, 2010 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions
Should he have told the FO....
That he doesnt want to make the money they are offering him? I dont think he is a #1 WR and thats really not the issue. Honestly I think the guy would shine next to a true #1. Put Brandon Marshall on one side and Ted Ginn on the other and I bet you Ginn will produce.
by usualsuspect609 on Mar 17, 2010 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
plain and simple
Hear you dudes beefin i aint sayin not one name, that'll be the day i give life to yall lil haters some of em older than me but ya all lil haters
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by Deuce Black on Mar 17, 2010 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Not the point I was trying to make!
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by texascowpunk on Mar 17, 2010 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Ginn gets more flack than he deserves
Because he’s come to symbolize Cam Cameron and 1-15. He was booed at the Dolphin draft party when he was picked and he hadn’t even left Ohio at that point. Going 1-15 just made it worse.
He was booed mostly because he wasn’t Brady Quinn. So far Ginn has had a better career than Quinn who has peope woindering if he’ll ever be productive.
Dwayne Bowe (KC), Craig Davis (SD), Anthony Gonzalez (Indy) were the other wideouts taken in the first round. Davis is where? and the other two aren’t really light years ahead of TG. Sidney Rice was taken in round 2 but didn’t do anything until Favre showed up.
I guess if we’re going to be upset it should be that Darrelle Revis and Patrick Willis were taken after TG….but we weren’t looking defence and you can play that game with any draft.
If was a bad draft …the best pick was a punter! but Ginn, believe it of not was one of the bright spots.
Of the 10 picks that year only three are still with the team: Ginn, Soliai and Fields.
You can put a lot of that down to Sporano cleaning house and getting rid of players who didn’t fit the new Dolphin mold…guess what? Ginn, at least so far, fits the mold…..I don’t believe Tony Sporano even knows what the term “soft spot” means….ergo he must see something in Ted Ginn…
Be nice to see that faith be rewarded.
Cheers
by PhrozenPhish on Mar 19, 2010 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
u also hav 2 take into consideration that some of those kick return TD penalties could have effected the outcome of the return
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Did you watch the videos
it included all of the penalized returns.look for the player that were at fault for the call and tell me if they had any effect on the outcome
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If you watch it you can clearly see the Hagan penalty,
he is holding 1 of the last guys Ginn gets by and the guy even got a hand on Ginn, if he wasn’t being held he stops Ginn there.
In the Camarillo return you can’t see Cam when he is penalized but he is right behind the play and if he held or clipped he was certainly in a position to influence the play.
In the Anderson return he was one of the wedge blockers, nuff said.
Do you think Cribbs has never had 1 called back, lol, its part of the game.
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by uncle finster on Mar 18, 2010 7:46 AM EDT up reply actions
Actually cribbs hasnt had one called back
and tedd didnt even use the wedge he took it to the outside on the one with charlie
and the camarillo play happened behing ginn so i doubt anyone was going to catch himanyway
Hear you dudes beefin i aint sayin not one name, that'll be the day i give life to yall lil haters some of em older than me but ya all lil haters
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Cribbs has had at least 1 called back,
Cribbs had another returned for 94 yards for another score but was called back on a holding penalty by Lennie Friedman.
Cam may or may not have had an impact on that play but the possibility is certainly there.
Anderson is in front of Ginn so he definitely is in a position to change the outcome of that play, at 5.28 in the vid you can see him turn back to look, probably to see if he was being called for the penalty.
I think your grasping at straws on those plays.
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by uncle finster on Mar 18, 2010 8:19 AM EDT up reply actions
Deuce!
I like you dog but come on with this shit. Ginn is afraid of contact and still drops balls! We should get some value out of this guy and quit taking reps from Hartline and Bess. Maybe ted could flourish in another system but I don’t think it’s ours. I was just thinking today of how we should trade down and get Marshall and be legit he reminds me of Moss when he finally shut up and played for the cheatriots we will regret not getting him as he continues to be one of the best. Hartline Bess and Marshall with Camarillo! Please that is REAL right away. Package Ginn for a pick trade down and get B Marshall. I know it won’t happen but watch Marshall continue to Dominate.
i feel you.. i guess im just being patient but in todays NFL people want to see production immediately
and ginn doesnt help his cause with his drops and what not so i see how you would feel that way.
And as for Brandon Marshall we might as well give up already cuz it wont happen are free agency is pretty over and we wont fill any more needs through it which is why the draft gon be real important.
Hear you dudes beefin i aint sayin not one name, that'll be the day i give life to yall lil haters some of em older than me but ya all lil haters
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I know
I just wish the front office would make a big move and sign or at least try to get Marshall. I will agree with you on Ted’s return skills I have never questioned his speed and I didn’t realize how many returns were called Back I watch every game and went to the San Diego game last year but some times hit off to many Crown royal shot’s! Especially in San Diego Man those Tailgaters there are Fu-kin Crazy! Any way Happy St.Paddy’s man I am raising My Guinness and Bushmills to you and all Phin Nation.
lol
Hear you dudes beefin i aint sayin not one name, that'll be the day i give life to yall lil haters some of em older than me but ya all lil haters
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THE JETS; this years 2rd.pick & next years 1rd. pick & you let him lanquish on the bench. hell it will mean two, more wins for you a year!
they might of had a by & home field advantage in there one game. two win’s in your division is awsum!!!!!!
by wild zion beaver on Mar 17, 2010 8:39 PM EDT reply actions
Can anybody put something else up besides a ginn post or mock (guilty on the latter)
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What an innovative idea!
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by texascowpunk on Mar 17, 2010 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions
The best we can muster around here most of the time is rebel without a clue!
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by texascowpunk on Mar 17, 2010 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions
IMO if someone is shortsighted enough to label him a bust
because of where he was chosen,doesn’t berate other players who cost drives and/or games,talks about how he even sucks in the return game w/o considering how ALL our other returners do etc.etc. then they have to root against him in hopes they dont look like morons when he does do well.
I can’t wait for the upcoming season because with Henne getting even better plus time to gel with our present WR Corp,more time to go through his progressions due to a better performing OL,Hartline and Bess only getting better and Cammy just being Cammy Defenses are going to pay for doubling Ginn and when they don’t, because they are getting killed by someone else, they are really going to pay.
by firedanhenningnow on Mar 17, 2010 10:48 PM EDT reply actions
another ginn post reaches over a 100 comments
its guaranteed
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by Davone_Is_BessT on Mar 17, 2010 10:56 PM EDT reply actions
Ted Ginn HATERS
people need 2 stop haten on Ginn when ever the Dolphins get a fucking #1 wr hell show u want he can do…..
Settle down there tiger!
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by texascowpunk on Mar 18, 2010 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Last time I checked, he still has to catch the ball himself
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Well at least we know he means it! He dropped an F bomb and says something about hell!
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by texascowpunk on Mar 18, 2010 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions
i would agree with that statement at the beginning of last year
but after the season he had this year, drops, lack of confidence, and straight out fear of getting hit… i cant be entirely sure of him breaking out even if we do get a #1.
BUT u never know, a minor tweak like having an offseason to get used to henne could help him out dramatically.
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by Davone_Is_BessT on Mar 18, 2010 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions
I've always hated the "getting used to" argument
What does it matter who threw it, if a ball hits you in the hands, when you aren’t covered, and you drop it.
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even bess who has the greatest hands in the world
took some time to get acclimated from penny’s feathery soft passes to henne’s lazers.
look at the stats, everyone was dropping passes left and right when we were forced to make the switch. ginn might just need more time, some receivers need the continuity. IMO its a valid argument tho not guaranteed.
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by Davone_Is_BessT on Mar 18, 2010 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions
exactly....
I mean 6 QBs in the last 3 years, you have to expect the guy to regress a little bit.
by usualsuspect609 on Mar 18, 2010 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions
He is unfairly criticized
and as we all know it is because of his draft status, but he is what he is.
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Thank God, we have him (NY) wood be spitting on us right now. They wood have all the right [IF] we didn't have ginn but then again, we wood be picking (5) spots higher. so who holds the scales this week?
so you eat your poison & you eat it!
by wild zion beaver on Mar 18, 2010 10:03 AM EDT reply actions
53 Yard TD
Had to be one of the most gratifying plays in my 35+years of being a Dolphins’ fan. Seeing the look on Revis’ face knowing he was flat out beat was priceless.
by Rumple Pigskin on Mar 18, 2010 10:53 AM EDT reply actions
I AGREE WITH EVERYBODY THAT HAS TED GINN JR. BACK
LAY OFF OF HIM EVERYTHING THIS ARTICLE SAYS ABOUT HIM IS 100% TRUE HE IS SO UNFAIRLY CRIZIZED ITS NOT FAIR. GIVE HIM SO DAMN CONFIDENCE CHEER FOR HIM. I’M MAKING A BOLD PERDICTION BY SAYING GINN WILL GO OVER 1,000 YARDS……..
Hey next comment try letting off of the caps lock. No need to yell!
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by texascowpunk on Mar 18, 2010 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions
wow really? always trying to hate
if the man wanna caps lock let the man caps lock
Hear you dudes beefin i aint sayin not one name, that'll be the day i give life to yall lil haters some of em older than me but ya all lil haters
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No, not hate. Its a big sore spot with several people on this site. Its the equivalent of shouting.
I actually find it ironic that one of the most abrasive people on this site would call anyone out for hating.
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by texascowpunk on Mar 18, 2010 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions
abrasive? i dont hate i appreciate
Hear you dudes beefin i aint sayin not one name, that'll be the day i give life to yall lil haters some of em older than me but ya all lil haters
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LOL Good one!
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by texascowpunk on Mar 18, 2010 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions
lol
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by Deuce Black on Mar 18, 2010 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
hahahahaha
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by uncle finster on Mar 23, 2010 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions
Ginn
Ginn is a decent player, however Randy Mueller should be shot. Ginn can be a big part of an explosive offense but Henne must mature and a true #1 receiver must emerge or be acquired. All that said, our receiving core is fine, we have a lot of guys that excel at different ares, Bess is the poor man’s wes welker, Ginn is an explosive playmaker, Turner could develop into a red zone threat and Camarillo and hartline can catch anything, But you don’t have to double team any of them. Thats why we desperately need a true #1 receiver.
Let me e'splain... No, there is too much. Let me sum up:
Ginn Sucks.
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Mar 20, 2010 1:38 PM EDT reply actions
hi hater
Hear you dudes beefin i aint sayin not one name, that'll be the day i give life to yall lil haters some of em older than me but ya all lil haters
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This doesn't look like a Misconception
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neither does this
Hear you dudes beefin i aint sayin not one name, that'll be the day i give life to yall lil haters some of em older than me but ya all lil haters
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Hear you dudes beefin i aint sayin not one name, that'll be the day i give life to yall lil haters some of em older than me but ya all lil haters
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how much more ofter does that happen then this
I see Bess catching more then Ginn
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Ginn and Bess
Ginn: “Watch my best Brandon Marshall impression!”
Bess: insert Super Mario theme music
Vincent Fuller (22): “Whoa! It must be some kinda…smurf ninja”
Touchdown, Ronnie Brown Edition!
wow your jokes are staler than three day old popcorn
and not even the buttery kind
Dez Bryant is the truth forget what youve heard
and this happened with nobody around him
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nobody in site
http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2009/1209/fantasy_u_bess_576.jpg
Hear you dudes beefin i aint sayin not one name, that'll be the day i give life to yall lil haters some of em older than me but ya all lil haters
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or this
Hear you dudes beefin i aint sayin not one name, that'll be the day i give life to yall lil haters some of em older than me but ya all lil haters
-Wiz Khalifa
o wait...no not this one either
Hear you dudes beefin i aint sayin not one name, that'll be the day i give life to yall lil haters some of em older than me but ya all lil haters
-Wiz Khalifa
ok i got one...nope still no misconception
Hear you dudes beefin i aint sayin not one name, that'll be the day i give life to yall lil haters some of em older than me but ya all lil haters
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So you really think Ginn is that much better then Bess?
Did we both watch the same season? I’m pretty sure that Bess has been the most consistent compared to Ginn.
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hahahahaha are you crazy? Who in the hell said ginnwas better than Bess
Bess is clearly a natural reciever.. but i had to use him as an example
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i was just tryin to prove a point
Hear you dudes beefin i aint sayin not one name, that'll be the day i give life to yall lil haters some of em older than me but ya all lil haters
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that Bess tends to fumble the ball a little more then he should
or that Ginn doesn’t even come close to catching the ball half the time? I’m one of those Ginn haters, to me he is no good till he learns to not run out of bounds and maybe catch a lil better.
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im supportive of ginn but the whole running out of
bound thing still gets me mad
Hear you dudes beefin i aint sayin not one name, that'll be the day i give life to yall lil haters some of em older than me but ya all lil haters
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I wanna throw something at the TV every time I see him drop the ball or run out of bounds
thank God I have the sense not to actually throw something at my TV. But you get the drift.
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lol
Hear you dudes beefin i aint sayin not one name, that'll be the day i give life to yall lil haters some of em older than me but ya all lil haters
-Wiz Khalifa
preserve the clock at all costs there is methied to madness er sumwere?
by wild zion beaver on Mar 20, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
uh.. yeah..
i’m kinda thinkin that’s prolly not whats goin on…
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Mar 20, 2010 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions
the guy is a bust...
look, the guy is a bust BECAUSE he was picked 9th over all…he is getting bashed BECAUSE he is making a RIDICULOUS amount of money for being at best a #3 WR..i say the Dolphins should cut their losses & admit when the last regime made a mistake, just as they admitted they made a mistake when they cut sorry ass Gibril Wilson (Jeremey Shockey, need i say more?!)..so yea, stop trying to defend the guy..he is a sorry ass WR who cant catch a god damn cold..GO DOLPHINS!!!!!!
i said before last year started that i wouldn't comment on ginn until the season was over
i failed to do that. this year, i will only comment about ginn on game day threads . after this season is over, we’ll see what we have. there will be no more excuses about new qbs or needing a few years to develop. this will be his second year with henne and fourth in the league. i hope he gets it together, but i’m not counting on it. until game day threads and the end of the season, i will not speak good or bad about mr. ginn. nobody is going to change anyone else’s mind about him, so it’s just an endless cycle. this season should be his last chance. good day
Well said!
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by texascowpunk on Mar 21, 2010 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions
fair enough I agree with this^
Dolphin Ninja here, ASSASSINATING draft posts. CJ Spiller or ELSE!!!
IT SIMPLY IS ALL ABOUT U!!!
"You wanna get high man? Does howdy doody have wooden balls?"
"Keep on knockin but you can't come innnn!!!"
- Cheech & Chong - Up in Smoke -
2010-2011 Ginn breaks out!!
This young man will produce this upcoming season and silence the critics at least for a little while. They always will have something to complain about!!!!
Haha I just remembered something
I forget which game it was, but in one game this year Ginn already had like two drops or something and I’m like “man, could his hands be any worse?” A couple drives later, we run a WR-reverse to Ginn and he drops the hand-off lol.
That being said, I’m still supportive of him.
It's 2010 - do the smart thing. Draft Myron Rolle.
see I can't forgive that easily for a "pro", I'll give him this next season to prove himself.
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"Keep on knockin but you can't come innnn!!!"
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