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Could some answers to our holes already be here?

I love seeing the vast difference in most predictions for the Dolphins in the 1st round.  To me it shows that they've narrowed down the positions of need but still collected some players at those positions that have upside.  No one knows what to think of some of these younger players.  Have they reached their potential or is there room to grow?  If there is room to grow then how much growth can they achieve?

Lets say the areas of need are WR, TE, NT, OLB and FS.  I'm going to list the young players at all of those positions, I'm curious to see who everyone thinks has the most potential.

Poll
Which of these players has the best chance of becoming the #1 player at their position in 2010? (in no specific order)
Taurus Johnson
2 votes
John Nalbone
1 votes
Julius Pruitt
4 votes
Joey Haynos
2 votes
Chris Clemons
17 votes
Ted Ginn Jr.
9 votes
J.D. Folsom
1 votes
Paul Solai
12 votes
Cameron Wake
82 votes
Ryan Grice-Mullen
2 votes
Erik Walden
0 votes
Reggie Torbor
0 votes
Quentin Moses
1 votes
Kory Sperry
5 votes
Tyrone Culver
2 votes
Charlie Anderson
0 votes
Patrick Turner
4 votes
Greg Camarillo
0 votes
Devone Bess
12 votes
Brian Hartline
29 votes
Anthony Fasano
3 votes
Nate Ness
3 votes

191 votes | Poll has closed

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Based off talent alone

Cameron Wake.

Based off measurables and potential

Chris Clemons

Based on need and experience

Tyrone Culver.

Based on lack of depth and need for speed

Ted Ginn

Based on ability and precedent

Davone Bess

etc..

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1a. Eric Berry, S, Tennessee
1b. Earl Thomas, S, Texas
1c. C.J. Spiller, RB, Clemson
1d. Morgan Burnett, S, Georgia Tech
1e. Dan Williams, NT, Tennessee
1f. Sergio Kindle, OLB, Texas
1g. Trade.

by Dave.Phuller on Mar 16, 2010 12:42 AM EDT reply actions   1 recs

+1

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by finzrule on Mar 16, 2010 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

6 votes, 6 players

I/m thinking we’re going to see a vast difference of opinion. Being forced to choose one out of the pack really should give us an idea of who to expect something from.

Go get Suh if at all possible.

by special agent wildcat on Mar 16, 2010 12:52 AM EDT reply actions  

I like the following players to fill some of our needs...

Chris Clemons FS
Cameron Wake WOLB
Ryan Grice-Mullen WR
Kory Sperry TE
Patrick Turner WR
Brian Hartline WR

I also like Davone Bess(who doesn’t)… but I don’t feel like he will be a #1 receiver, because he is on the slow side. I do think that he is already the best possession receiver in the game though.

by Jason Scott_90 on Mar 16, 2010 5:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

In the game?

That’s questionable. He is among the top guys and will develop into an even better player, don’t get me wrong. But the best possession receiver in the game, already, meh.

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1a. Eric Berry, S, Tennessee
1b. Earl Thomas, S, Texas
1c. C.J. Spiller, RB, Clemson
1d. Morgan Burnett, S, Georgia Tech
1e. Dan Williams, NT, Tennessee
1f. Sergio Kindle, OLB, Texas
1g. Trade.

by Dave.Phuller on Mar 16, 2010 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ryan Grice-Mullen

I think will be more of a ST specialist. he will be back there to return punts and kicks. He may try to squeeze himself into the WR rotation, but he is of the similar mold of Bess. Those two did magical things in Hawaii together. I cant wait for training camp to see what happens with this kid.

by esco6781 on Mar 16, 2010 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Better than Hines Ward, Boldin, Steve Smith (CAR), Welker, and TJ Housh?

I like Bess too, but he’s not that good.

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So I stopped thinking.

by luvs2drnk on Mar 17, 2010 3:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

No.

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by texascowpunk on Mar 17, 2010 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

chris clemons is the answer

after him wake will clearly be quite solid next year and hartline is already our stud in the redzone

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by ronnie brown for president on Mar 16, 2010 1:17 AM EDT reply actions  

hey now..

Wake isnt really a “younger” player.. but I went for Hartline because I ♥ Hartline

Henne is the QB of the Miami Dolphins. Good.
Trade Brown? Are you smoking crack?
Hartline will be the Dolphins #2 for years to come. Kid has IT
We need this pass D to STEP THE F UP and do what they get paid to do!
We dont need a 30+ receiver we need younger, Bowe or Marshall will do fine

by MainePhinFan on Mar 16, 2010 3:33 AM EDT reply actions  

I had to go with Hartline.

Because you were basing this off position, I had to downgrade Wake due to the unknown that is his coverage abilities.

While Hartline has the potential to become Henne’s go to guy in the passing game. Sure he’s not a deep threat, but he’s the closest thing we got to a #1 receiver right now. I wouldn’t be surprised one bit to see him lead the team in every receiving category this year. As for Bess, I just don’t see him being anything more than a slot receiver on this team.

Clemons still has a long way to go to become a factor. He’s an extreme liability in coverage, which is why he only lasted a couple quarters each time he was given a chance to supplant Wilson.

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So I stopped thinking.

by luvs2drnk on Mar 16, 2010 4:03 AM EDT reply actions  

I'll hope with you.

Voted for hartline lots of upside.

by Miamiman on Mar 16, 2010 12:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bess

he is our Wes Welker, I think that he will be what we want from our TE, a safety valve for Henne to throw to. He is not the fastest true, but his routes are superb and he has heart. I mean the kid was a UDFA. By the way, did we re sign him? And if so for how long?

by esco6781 on Mar 16, 2010 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bess is our Brandon Stokely

I think Hartline will become Henne’s safety valve, only because if we develop a #1, Bess only comes in on 3WR sets.

I used to think I had a drinking problem.
So I stopped thinking.

by luvs2drnk on Mar 17, 2010 3:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

If going by position, are we differentiating ILB/OLB?

Or are all LBs lumped together? Cause there’s no way Wake is going to be better than Dansby for all LBs. If we resign JT, then there’s no way Wake will be better than JT by the end of 2010, which rules out the OLB as well.

The question wasn’t who is already #1, it’s who will become #1 in 2010. I believe Hartline becomes the go to guy in 2010.

I used to think I had a drinking problem.
So I stopped thinking.

by luvs2drnk on Mar 17, 2010 3:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

Picked Wake since he seems most likely to be a #1, but I think Hartline is our #2 wr I think he will turn out to be a steal and a solid starter, alao Bess our slot WR and very good at that.
If poll was just starter I would pick Hartline or Bess.

by scorp on Mar 16, 2010 12:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Cameron Wake all the way, baby!

Joey Porter: on 354 attempts rushing the passer…9 sacks, 11 QB pressures, and 5 QB hits
Cam Wake: on 134 attempts rushing the passer…5.5 sacks, 20 QB pressures, and 6 QB hits
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1st: Earl Thomas S; 2nd: Lamarr Houston NT/DE; 3rd: Linval Joseph NT; 4th: Adrian Tracy OLB; 6A: Stevenson Sylvester ILB; 6B: Deji Karim RB; 6C: Jameson Konz TE; 7A: Scott Long WR;

by DolphDallas on Mar 16, 2010 2:00 PM EDT reply actions  

So we've established he can rush the QB.

But can he cover and defend against the run? Cause the #1 at the OLB position can do all three.

I used to think I had a drinking problem.
So I stopped thinking.

by luvs2drnk on Mar 17, 2010 3:35 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm voted for Hartline although for star potential Cameron Wake does have a great upside.

1. CJ Spiller RB Clemson 2. Jerry Hughes OLB Texas Christian
3. Reshad Jones S Georgia 4. Linval Joseph NT East Carolina
6a. Robert Johnson S Utah 6b. Micah Johnson ILB Kentucky
6c. Kion Wilson ILB South Florida 7a. Shay Hodge WR Mississippi
7b. Michael Hoomanawaui TE Illinois

by kdock on Mar 16, 2010 2:30 PM EDT reply actions  

I hope

Cam “Earth” Wake is working on his coverage skills right now. It seems to be the biggest unknown for him, so if he puts a lot of effort into improving that one factor, his Beast mode will go through the roof. Will he be an every down LB or just a pass rushing LB? How is he against the run?

by esco6781 on Mar 16, 2010 4:17 PM EDT reply actions  

i mean our 1st. this year for a free #1 pick next year but we swap spots. Next year i can't see them drafting in the top three, but the top 5, or 6, yes!

Lets get there top guy next year, if they do it? Cuz they really need a QB right now. once your out of the top 10 the tallent is kinda close!

by wild zion beaver on Mar 16, 2010 6:42 PM EDT reply actions  

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