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Mt. Cody, or: How I learned to stop worrying and love Earl Thomas

Let me preface this by saying that my though processes on free agency moves and the draft are a roller coaster of a ride in terms of who I like, who I don't like, what I think we should do, what I think we shouldn't do, etc. Even still, the General Manager in all of us has a more general knowledge of where this team's direction should lie, and we base our specific opinions off that.

Let me also preface this by saying: do not bother reading if you don't like reading in-depth posts.


The 2010 NFL Draft is a month and a week or so away, and rumors have not yet run rampant. While the Rumor Mill does not directly affect who a team will select with any of their picks, it does give a hint as to who they will not be picking. How often was Vontae Davis, or the cornerback position in general, discussed or mulled over publicly by Parcells and co. last season? As I recall, not much. Even before the majority of Pro Days take place, there has been enough time for scouts and fans alike to analyze the play of potential draftees and the general logic that takes place behind the scenes when each front office sets their April draft board.

So, where do we stand half-way through March? Who will be a Miami Dolphin come late April? Who won't?

Call it fact, call it opinion, call it whatever you want. Here's what I've got for the first round:

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Dan Williams, DT, Tennessee OR Terrance Cody, DT, Alabama

Omar Kelly sparked this idea by offering a positive and a negative on the situation: in the end, the negative out-weighs and out-lasts.

Via Twitter:

DT Dan Williams' stock has risen. Word is he's presently a mid-1st round pick that can fit 3-4, and 4-3 teams. Sen. Bowl film boosted him up

I, as well as every expert, fan, enthusiast, whatever, understand the dire need for a nose tackle in a 3-4 defense. They eat space, they eat blockers, they force the running back away from the middle. They're a necessity, not a luxury. That's a fact. What is also a fact is that the Dolphins are talking too much about the position. What I mean by that is, Miami does not talk about who they're going to take. Bill Parcells himself was supposedly "on the Warpath" in terms of talking about their plans. A post recently came up detailing Sparano speaking about how Cody needs to lose more weight by the draft. Sure, saying Cody needs to lose some weight doesn't exactly spill the beans, but it does say "look: we're not drafting a NT in the first round."

Sparano compares Cody to Kris Jenkins and Vince Wilfork. What does this tell us? We are not drafting him. I've already explained my reasoning why. Since that's a fairly liquid reason, here's my favorite quote (also from Kelly) that backs up my logic:

Scout brought up a good point about the Dolphins taking a NT in the 1st round. They'd rather use a high draft pick on a THREE DOWN players.

Terrance Cody? Not a three-down player. Dan Williams? Might be a three-down player, but might not even be as good a nose tackle prospect as a Cody. Hear me out: if Cody weren't so lazy, and his ability to put his heart and mind to the game were not in question, he would be a top ten pick this year. His negatives dropped him to the second round before his recent weight increase and the volatility of his stock. In reality, considering only the positives, I think Cody is a better NT than Williams in the NFL. Williams wasn't a mid-first round consideration until the Senior Bowl. Is that really enough to select him 12th overall? No. Why reach on a late-first round talent in such a deep draft solely because the position is a perceived need? I'll get to that in a second. Cody's negatives are enough to pass on him there, as well.

On top of that, there are a few players worth looking at with the second and third round picks: Linval Joseph, Torrell Troup, etc. Cam Thomas is a potential second-round talent. There is no need to select a two-down player with the nose tackle situation the way it is, period.

What do I mean by "perceived need?" Look: the front office re-signed Jason Ferguson. They have Paul Soliai (inconsistency and mediocrity be damned). They have Tony McDaniel. I would be absolutely shocked to see Miami select a NT (at 12, anyway) that early with how much they rotate players and fill needs with stop-gaps until they find the guy and the value that they like. They usually try to do that by filling the need with late-round picks and undrafted free agents. Do not get your hopes up on Dan Williams, and though I originally disliked Cody but like his potential now, do not get your hopes up on him either because of where he'll be taken (late first, early second) and where we draft. The value vs. needs do not balance out for that to be a legitimate pick, to me.

The Dolphins will not draft a NT in the first, money.

Earl Thomas, FS, Texas

So, who do we draft? Notice I did not list Eric Berry above: he won't last here. I'm not holding my breath.

Earl Thomas is a top fifteen (at worst) talent in this draft. Last season, he goes in the top ten, easy. We need that position after cutting Gibril Wilson and attempting to show the world we're going to shore up the position by drafting a veteran presence, over-rated or not (see: Antrel Rolle, Ryan Clark). What did we do last season before drafting Vontae Davis? We took Eric Green and all the flack that came with him. Now, I know little-to-nothing about the technical aspect of a contract, but let me throw up a hypothetical: Antrel Rolle. We knew he had a lot of interest in reurning to Miami to play some professional ball, but did he see Eric Green all over again? He did say he followed our safety situation this year. Why would he care so much if he didn't genuinely want to be here? Did we offer him limited guaranteed money, and he took it as a potential scare due to our desire to get younger in the secondary? That may be far-fetched, don't get me wrong. It's merely something to think about, and perhaps I'm just justifying the idea of drafting Earl Thomas and why we have not addressed the position yet.

Nonetheless, here's what makes the most sense to me having explained my feelings on the nose tackle position: we sign a Sean Jones, ex-Eagle. The good news is, he's a relatively inexpensive yet capable (if not average) starter filling a position as a stop-gap until we find our future guy (ex. Clemons, 2011 draft pick). That way, even if we miss on an Earl Thomas, or, less hopeful but still viable, Nate Allen, we have a veteran who can make a play here and there. A solid if not unspectacular presence. Sounds a lot like what Eric Green was supposed to be, but wasn't.

Earl Thomas is a ball-hawk, a natural free safety. He is the perfect fit to this Mike Nolan defense. He makes plays, he can hold his own against the run, he can pick off the ball and is very athletic. He complements all three of our other secondary players perfectly. And, Jones (etc.) can mentor him. Nolan can mold him. He will make Bell look better. He would make both corners look better. If Clemons can grasp the mental aspect of the strong safety position (which, I believe is his more natural position), we have one of the youngest and most talented safety tandem in the league to back up one of the most talend and young corner tandem in the league (save for the Jets and perhaps the Raiders).

He has become my single favorite pick for our first round selection. And, what's more, we have not said a word about free safeties other than how much we liked Gibril before cutting him. Bringing in Clark and looking at Rolle only validates my feeling that we have to give serious consideration to Thomas and may even end up bringing him here.

Sergio Kindle, OLB, Texas OR Brandan Graham, OLB, Michigan OR Derrick Morgan, OLB, Georgia Tech OR Sean Weatherspoon, OLB, Missouri

All four of these linebackers are first round talents, that's a fact. The question is, are they WOLBs or SOLBs?

Kindle appears to be a weakside player. The other three seem to fall in between the two if not closer to strongside. The next question is, do we need a weakside linebacker? I don't think so. As many questions as Cameron Wake has as a linebacker in everything but pass-rushing, he has the ability to perform to the level of an Elvis Dumervil in a Nolan offense. He was being groomed for this, and I think he will be ready for it. That's not to say we won't bring in a WOLB to challenge him, but he should be penciled in as the starter on that side for now, and I don't think the need is great enough to go after a Kindle at 12.

Whether Jason Taylor re-signs here or not, we need a SOLB of the future. This draft is chock full of OLB, with Jerry Hughes highlighting those who could be available in the second round. Can he play SOLB? I think he has the ability to drop back into coverage and set the edge. Fortunately, Karlos Dansby brings us flexibility: we don't exactly need our SOLB to be excellent at coverage from the get-go. Hughes, etc. can take some time to learn the system and develop his skills. He is athletic enough to eventually shine at the position. For the value, he's a steal. Ricky Sapp may fit the bill as well. Kindle might be as talented as Joey Porter in his prime (without the diva attitude, even), but a LaMarr Woodley type may be more valuable considering our current talent and system.

Bill Parcells will find his Woodley (or can you say "Lawrence Taylor?") in this draft, preferably in the second round. All of the Weatherspoon, Graham, Kindle, Morgan lovers? Unless we see a draft-day trade, don't look for them to be Miami Dolphins.

Random Thoughts

  • Look for Myron Rolle to reward whomever drafts him. He ran a 4.69s-40 in the Combine, but you know what? He's cerebral, he's talented, he's athletic. He plays faster than that. He was a first or second round pick before going to Oxford. Why has his stock fallen so far? Sure, he may look like he has committment issues. I don't understand why. If you're given the chance to study abroad at Oxford as a Rhodes Scholar, you don't just say no. The timed speed should not hurt him this badly. Like Ricky, he will move on to a successful career post-football. Until then, he will be a good player in the NFL. A starter. He should not go past the fourth round.
  • If Arrelious Benn lasts to our second rounder, expect to see him drafted. Likely, if Demaryius Thomas falls to our third, he will be here. Otherwise, don't expect a wide reciever to be taken before the fourth round.
  • Look for Jimmy Graham or Dennis Pitta to be given serious consideration. Anthony Fasano received a second-round tender for a reason. He's no Greg Olsen or Tony Scheffler, so the Dolphins would be thrilled to find a second round pick in exchange for those who want him. Otherwise, they don't want Fasano to be the extent of their talent at tight end.
  • Jonathon Dwyer will be a stud in the NFL. It's too bad he won't be up for consideration. If he came out next season, I think you might see his name on the back of a Miami jersey. Not this season.
  • I will be buying a Cameron Wake jersey at some point this year, because he will not disappoint under Mike Nolan.

Only thirty-something days until we find out for sure. Who's your man-crush of the year? Earl Thomas.

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when you think of a stop gap for a young player you think of a once talented player past his prime with some good football left in him that a young guy can learn from. Darren sharper would fit that bill not sean jones. sean jones would provide mediocre play at the saftey position and honestly if you wanted to go that route id rather just play clemons

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by Deuce Black on Mar 14, 2010 9:00 PM EDT reply actions  

I would rather Darren Sharper

But Jones is less expensive, and considering our direction, I would expect Jones to be more reasonable. Perhaps your description fits the bill of “stop-gap” better than my example, but it’s still the same premise. I don’t know that Clemons is ready yet, and Jones is an example of a one-year player who would push him and potentially “stop the gap” if we can’t land a Thomas or we don’t want to give our rookie the safety position. It takes a couple of years to learn, too.

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by Dave.Phuller on Mar 14, 2010 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

1st round cj spiller

2nd reshad jones

and i agree with your reasoning on why we shouldnt go nose tackle with the #12

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by Davone_Is_BessT on Mar 14, 2010 9:13 PM EDT reply actions  

btw rec'd

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by Davone_Is_BessT on Mar 14, 2010 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I do love Spiller

It’s just needs vs. availability again. I would not be terribly upset if we drafted him, but I want Thomas more.

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by Dave.Phuller on Mar 14, 2010 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Earl Thomas- first

Jerry Hughes- second
Troup, Thomas or Joseph-third
Dezmon Briscoe, Pitta, or Blount- 4th
OR
Weatherspoon or Graham- first
Benn, Lafell or Thomas- Second
Jimmy Graham, Troup, Joseph, Koa Misi- Third
Robert Johnson, Major Wright or Blount
Those are some possible moves we could make

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by DPL3 Rollin on Mar 14, 2010 9:26 PM EDT reply actions  

I perfectly agree with option one

Thomas/Hughes 1/2. If Thomas lasts to three, awesome. Briscoe would be awesome in the fourth.

I don’t hate your second option, but I think it’s far less likely. Just an opinion.

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by Dave.Phuller on Mar 14, 2010 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

no prob man it's just an opinion im not Deuce Black dawg

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by DPL3 Rollin on Mar 14, 2010 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

rofl

I’m not going anywhere else with that.

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by Dave.Phuller on Mar 14, 2010 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha no worries we get into arguements allt he time

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by DPL3 Rollin on Mar 14, 2010 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Very intriguing and entertaining ones at that

I think you’re overdue for one. I’ll bring the popcorn.

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1a. Earl Thomas, S, Texas
1b. C.J. Spiller, RB, Clemson
1c. Sergio Kindle, OLB, Texas
1d. Dan Williams, NT, Tennessee
1e. Trade.

by Dave.Phuller on Mar 14, 2010 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha i hate arguing with him, it's not fun believe me

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by DPL3 Rollin on Mar 14, 2010 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

option one for the win

i doubt hughes will last that long. rmeinds me of a larry english. if he does its a nobrainer.

I’m still up in the air with our first pick. Unless a Berry drops then Thomas is looking more and more like the smarter pick.

2nd round- there are still lots of good players. Spoon, Hughes or Benn would be golden but IMO unlikely. If they are there grab them. If not look at a Ricky Sapp or someone.

3rd- DEF the NT pick. Best NT available, im going with Torrell troup here.

4th- Blount or Mccluster. RB of our future.

5th- I would go corner here we always use one.

6th- WR or TE

7th- CJ SPiller if available lol

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by BSerious72 on Mar 18, 2010 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

actually scratch that. i love myron rolle

i would take him in round 4 or 5 in a minute

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by BSerious72 on Mar 18, 2010 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

I heavily doubt it man

but knock on some of that wood you gnaw on for me.

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1a. Eric Berry, S, Tennessee/1b. Earl Thomas, S, Texas
1c. C.J. Spiller, RB, Clemson/1d. Dan Williams, NT, Tennessee
1e. Sergio Kindle, OLB, Texas/1f. Brandon Graham, OLB, Michigan

by Dave.Phuller on Mar 19, 2010 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why ahead of you dave. KC thinks that they can get that big NT, in the second rd. also & they just might!

i was readin wensday were Buffalo was also going to the 3/4 def. man there ahead of us also, we do have the very best professer’s in the NFL. so be happy & watch all the fun of the draft chit cum over hell i’m haveing a pony keg ordered join the fun see if you can find “richie incognito” big block party. I tell u i got the mabubu brothers three or four drunk skunks from across the tracks hell we all showing up!

by wild zion beaver on Mar 19, 2010 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pats fan here...

…would you be willing to grab Mt. Cody in the 2nd round?

by Richard Hill on Mar 14, 2010 9:45 PM EDT reply actions  

If Cody can show his committment to losing additional weight

and getting in playing shape, meaning conditioning and strength for the weight he has on his body, I think he warrants a pick in the early 40s for a 3-4 defense. So, yes, I would.

12? Wouldn’t consider it.

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by Dave.Phuller on Mar 14, 2010 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I honestly don't expect Cody to fall to the second round

I would be surprised to see San Diego pass on him, especially considering the fact that the Chargers’ run defense turned into complete crap after Jamal Williams went down last season. Yes, they need a running back, but they really need a nose tackle.

And I like the arguments you put forth, but think about this: a large percentage of the big-time nose tackles playing right now were first-round picks. Now, if that means we should trade down a bit to properly validate the value of a Dan Williams or Terrence Cody, then I totally agree. But I don’t agree that we should completely eschew the position from first-round consideration. Personally, I love the prospect idea of putting Dan Williams between Langford and Starks/Merling.

All of that said, I love the Earl Thomas pick. A player with his speed and ball skills belongs in our secondary.

Dan Williams and Ricky Sapp in 2010!

by kmb8488 on Mar 14, 2010 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Neither do I, really

And I agree. It seems like a handful of teams need a NT, and it will be in high demand. That’s part of the reason I want to eschew it and wait for next season. Demand lowers (theoretically), so the cost becomes less (also theoretically).

Ditto on ET. I want him to phone home and come to Miami more than any player in this draft.

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by Dave.Phuller on Mar 14, 2010 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Please phone home, Earl Thomas"

And I like the supply and demand example. I could be wrong but I think Jerrell Powe is supposed to be a first-rounder in 2011.

Dan Williams or Earl Thomas in 2010!

Then give me Jerry Hughes or Ricky Sapp in round two, please

by kmb8488 on Mar 14, 2010 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Earl Thomas needs a good nickname like Berry

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by Little Nicky 21 on Mar 14, 2010 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Extra Terrestrial

Or just E.T.

Or we could call him Phone Home.

Or I’m just a massive dork.

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by Dave.Phuller on Mar 14, 2010 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahahhaa

well.. we have a new nickname for you.. and ET works for me lol

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by Little Nicky 21 on Mar 14, 2010 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't make me compare ;)

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by Dave.Phuller on Mar 14, 2010 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

massive dork < prime time

lol

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by Little Nicky 21 on Mar 14, 2010 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

but I heard that's your stripper name?

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by Dave.Phuller on Mar 14, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

no that's treasure

lol

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by Little Nicky 21 on Mar 14, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

..precious

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by Dave.Phuller on Mar 14, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

btw

love the title of this post lol

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by Little Nicky 21 on Mar 14, 2010 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha

Was hoping somebody would

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1b. C.J. Spiller, RB, Clemson
1c. Sergio Kindle, OLB, Texas
1d. Dan Williams, NT, Tennessee
1e. Trade.

by Dave.Phuller on Mar 14, 2010 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dr Strangelove

lol

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by Little Nicky 21 on Mar 14, 2010 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

with Wake

he was lined up in practice as a SSLB and listed 2nd on the offical depth chart that said would switching him to the weakside negate part if not most of his experience as a LBer? I am not holding my breath he starts this coming season

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by Blaze453 on Mar 14, 2010 10:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Weakside is generally the pass-rusher in the 3-4, no?

That being the case, I don’t see who could possibly pass him in the depth chart. He appears to be our most talented rusher, and I’m sure a year in the system and an offseason with Nolan would do wonders for his ability and development.

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by Dave.Phuller on Mar 14, 2010 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

right

Wake right now is our best pass-rusher (and he was last year as well), so IMO he has the inside-track at starting on the weakside

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by Little Nicky 21 on Mar 14, 2010 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

there is alot more then just rushing the passer

why was porter cut? For performance?!?!?! 4/5 times a game he would over run a running play giving up huge yards, couldnt protect the edge, there is more then pin your ears back and rush the QB

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by Blaze453 on Mar 15, 2010 2:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

WOLB

Tend to rush the quarterback the majority of the time. Setting the edge and dropping back into coverage are crucial for any linebacker, but that is more the SOLB’s job. The way the defense is run makes it work even if the weakside isn’t a great run/pass defender on every down.

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1b. C.J. Spiller, RB, Clemson
1c. Sergio Kindle, OLB, Texas
1d. Dan Williams, NT, Tennessee
1e. Trade.

by Dave.Phuller on Mar 15, 2010 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Great point
I don’t understand why. If you’re given the chance to study abroad at Oxford as a Rhodes Scholar, you don’t just say no.

Seriously, what commitment issues? the kid had a free-ride the best schools in the world and he took it. Anyone would do the same

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by Patssuck456 on Mar 14, 2010 10:40 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't think that's the issue..

I think it’s more him saying he doesn’t want a long career and he already has plans for after football. It could be perceived that he’s not fully invested and that he’s already looking past the NFL, which may turn off some teams who want guys that eat sleep and breath football 24/7.

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by Little Nicky 21 on Mar 14, 2010 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ricky Williams

Would you pass on a talented player who would contribute talent to your team, even for ten seasons? For seven? Granted, Rolle is no Williams talent-wise per his position.

Would you have passed on Ronnie Brown knowing the same thing about him?

Perhaps the argument is moot in that regard. However, I should doubt that Rolle won’t be fully committed to football if he wanted to play in the league after graduating Oxford. Why not go on to do what he wants to post-football if he won’t be? Football has to be a passion for him if he were willing to give up whatever his plans are to play football for as long as he can.

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by Dave.Phuller on Mar 14, 2010 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh I don't agree with the criticism lol

just that’s the knock on him that I’ve heard, that he may not be fully committed. I think if he says “I only want to play 7 seasons” it’s not an issue, because that’s a pretty good career. Anything longer than that and you are getting a very durable player. There’s a reason the average NFL career is about 3 and a half years lol.

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by Little Nicky 21 on Mar 14, 2010 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Haha

All valid. I just think that if that’s a criticism, it’s quite ridiculous.

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by Dave.Phuller on Mar 14, 2010 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

yup

it is… but such is the NFL lol

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by Little Nicky 21 on Mar 14, 2010 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

The more I read.

The less difference I see between between Berry and Thomas. Appears to be neck and neck. Some even have Thomas ahead.

If Berry is a top 3 talent, why not grab 3b at #12.

I’m sure Nolan is getting the first guy and a Davis, Smith, Bell and Thomas secondary wouldn’y suck.

Earl, Demaryias and Cam. Thomas-fecta baby.

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by smahtaz on Mar 14, 2010 11:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Couldn't agree more.

Bell, Thomas, Davis, Smith would be just plain sick.

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by Dave.Phuller on Mar 14, 2010 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

And some do have Thomas ahead of Berry

I do believe some of the ESPN experts, or the Scouts, Inc. guys do have Berry behind Thomas (not by much, but that says something). Landing him here would be an excellent selection.

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by Dave.Phuller on Mar 14, 2010 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mayock has Thomas ahead of Berry

but I just can’t agree with that. Berry might be the best looking safety prospect since Sean Taylor… Thomas is not too far behind.

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by Little Nicky 21 on Mar 14, 2010 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

And just imagine if Berry wasn't coming out this year

or if there weren’t so many talented prospects.

Thomas could have been top, what, five last season?

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by Dave.Phuller on Mar 14, 2010 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

You really can't go wrong with either

For one simple reason: they get to the football.

Dan Williams or Earl Thomas in 2010!

Then give me Jerry Hughes or Ricky Sapp in round two, please

by kmb8488 on Mar 14, 2010 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

right

I honestly wouldn’t be mad with either guy. But if they are BOTH there, I take Berry.

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by Little Nicky 21 on Mar 14, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh without a doubt

But my shock would be never-ending if that were the case

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by Dave.Phuller on Mar 14, 2010 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahahaha

for some reason, I think it could happen. Probably not, but it seems like Berry’s stock is dropping for some strange reason

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by Little Nicky 21 on Mar 14, 2010 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, let's see

Okung
Suh
McCoy
Bradford
Claussen
McClain
Bryant
Tebow?

Nah, would be too far-fetched. Too big. But you’re thinking. I like that.

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1c. Sergio Kindle, OLB, Texas
1d. Dan Williams, NT, Tennessee
1e. Trade.

by Dave.Phuller on Mar 14, 2010 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

let's try to drop him... ready?

STL – Bradford
DET – Okung
TB – Suh
WAS – Clausen
KC – OT.. say, Baluga?
SEA – McCoy
CLE – JPP (it’s Mangini, remember Gholston?)
OAK – Bruce Campbell.. it won’t be anyone else
BUF – Dan Williams
JAX – Tebow or Derrick Morgan, either works
Denver – Dez Bryant

Miami – DING DING DING Eric Berry in that beautiful Teal jersey hawking on Sundays!!!

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by Little Nicky 21 on Mar 14, 2010 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ehh..

I just don’t see THAT many organizations being THAT ignant and thick-headed.

They aren’t all Al Davis..

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1c. Sergio Kindle, OLB, Texas
1d. Dan Williams, NT, Tennessee
1e. Trade.

by Dave.Phuller on Mar 14, 2010 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Crap.

They aren’t all Al Davis.

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1b. C.J. Spiller, RB, Clemson
1c. Sergio Kindle, OLB, Texas
1d. Dan Williams, NT, Tennessee
1e. Trade.

by Dave.Phuller on Mar 14, 2010 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol I know

but one of them is the Rams, one of them is Pete Carroll, one of them is Mangina, one of them is Detroit, one of them actually IS Al Davis, and one of them is Buffalo.. so maybe lol

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by Little Nicky 21 on Mar 15, 2010 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'll fly to where you are and take you to a bar

until you can’t even spell Mangina, if we land Berry.

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1a. Earl Thomas, S, Texas
1b. C.J. Spiller, RB, Clemson
1c. Sergio Kindle, OLB, Texas
1d. Dan Williams, NT, Tennessee
1e. Trade.

by Dave.Phuller on Mar 15, 2010 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

DEAL

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by Little Nicky 21 on Mar 15, 2010 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Actually, it's kinda possible you'll be making flight plans

After KC, Seattle and Cleveland are the only real threats to take Eric Berry. And this seems to happen to every year: some mega talented player drops for some retarded, nonexistent reason.

When it comes to the ignorance of the 11 GMs picking in front of us, I say bring it on.

Dan Williams or Earl Thomas in 2010!

Then give me Jerry Hughes or Ricky Sapp in round two, please

by kmb8488 on Mar 15, 2010 1:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

And it's also starting to look

like Cleveland might be looking at a QB now. I think Matty had it in his weekend roundup post about how they might draft their QB of the future in either Bradford or Claussen. And it makes sense too, that is totally a Holmgren move.

BTW, I still believe that the Rams do NOT draft a QB with the 1st pick. Something tells me that they don’t think as highly of this years QBs as all the “experts” are telling them they should. I still think they will pick up a stopgap for a couple of years and draft a guy next year.

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by Chupathingy on Mar 15, 2010 9:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

maybe so

but I still think that’s a mistake. Clausen, for whatever reason, is not being considered as a Franchise QB by the media, even though he has credentials as good or better than most QB’s drafted high in the past 10-20 years.

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by Little Nicky 21 on Mar 15, 2010 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Clausen

wont be half the QB bradford ends up being

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by Blaze453 on Mar 15, 2010 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

You keep saying that

and I’ll keep disagreeing with you. Clausen will be Philip Rivers in 5 years.

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by Little Nicky 21 on Mar 15, 2010 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe I'm misreading your post

but it sounds like you’re saying that because Sparano talked about Cody to the media he’s less likely to be drafted by us. If that’s what you’re saying then I don’t think that’s true. It’s likely that the media asked Sparano about Cody and so Sparano stated the obvious. Sparano gave no more insight about Cody than what any other NFL coach knows or thinks about him. What else was Sparano supposed to say? Heck, you could spin it the other way and say that because Sparano said what he did maybe we’re more likely to draft him; since if anything, Sparano’s words would hurt Cody’s draft status so that he’s more likely to fall to us.

In summary, the Trifecta’s comments should be taken worth a grain of salt regarding who we will or will not draft.

by kcorona4 on Mar 14, 2010 11:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Which I agree with

and that is generally what I meant by the comment. But I just feel as though the consensus of the front office is, if you want the player, you don’t delve too much into how you feel about them, positive or negative. But really, that was just an introduction to my belief that we won’t be climbing the Mt. Cody. I don’t recall us taking any players we divulged information about aside from Jake Long, and that was merely because we selected first overall.

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by Dave.Phuller on Mar 14, 2010 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

half a grain of salt

Just one man's opinion...

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by hwyatt3 on Mar 15, 2010 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

Koa Misi

Is Anyone forming the Koa Misi Bandwagon I want on!

by Mmcglssn on Mar 15, 2010 1:02 AM EDT reply actions  

I dont know much about Misi but

I heard he’ll probably be a SOLB and go in the 3rd. I really like AJ Edds for that role and in that spot. Gotta find out more about Misi though, Ive heard good things about him.

by okcdolphinsfan on Mar 15, 2010 4:36 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

As have I

and we need that position filled. If he’s got the size we like and can do the things a SOLB is supposed to be, I say take a good, hard look at him and bring him in if he’s right for the job.

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1b. C.J. Spiller, RB, Clemson
1c. Sergio Kindle, OLB, Texas
1d. Dan Williams, NT, Tennessee
1e. Trade.

by Dave.Phuller on Mar 15, 2010 9:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

Excellent post!

nice Dr. Strangelove reference. =)

Rec’d!

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by LeftCoastFinFan on Mar 15, 2010 11:56 AM EDT reply actions  

Another thing I like about Earl Thomas

He posted a 30 wonderlic score. Im glad he’s not a dumbass.

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by okokokaay on Mar 15, 2010 2:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice post, I really like ET

I think there is no way Demaryus falls to the 3rd and I gladly take it in the 2nd instead of Benn.
Cody is valuable enough in the 2nd.
I agree completely on your WR statement that is likely we don’t get one if the pieces don’t fall in place and time

by Mexican_ on Mar 17, 2010 4:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Are those your draft picks?

Well Thorpe has been dead over 50 years so he may not be much help but when alive a very versatile athlete. Sort of the Bo Jackson of his day only better. We also lost Bronko like 20 years ago so hes going to be of little help. Bart is still with us but he makes Farve look like a baby. Might have to pass on that one even if I might still prefer him over Farve. Ronnie may still have something. Compared to your other pics hes quite a youngster. Butkus while old still looks mean so why not? If you can wait about 6years we can just draft Sanders Jr and lets the elder Sanders continue to enjoy retirement.

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by texascowpunk on Mar 21, 2010 10:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

There's a Sanders Jr. coming up?!

Ohhh boy..

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1c. C.J. Spiller, RB, Clemson/1d. Dan Williams, NT, Tennessee
1e. Sergio Kindle, OLB, Texas/1f. Brandon Graham, OLB, Michigan

by Dave.Phuller on Mar 21, 2010 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah this kid!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wP4SVVTCKT4&feature=related

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by texascowpunk on Mar 21, 2010 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

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