Dolphin Mock Drafts Around the 'Net, 3/12 Edition
With the start of free agency last Friday at midnight, I chose to focus solely on all the news and rumors and put off this post for a week. But my inbox was surprisingly flooded with e-mails from people wondering where the updated mock draft post was.
Sorry to disappoint you all last week, but it's back today and will be back every Friday between now and the draft. I'm glad you all like this little feature. So let's get to it. The list of 44 mocks is below after the jump. And they should be a bit more interesting now that free agency has played out for a week and the big names that were available have found new homes, clarifying the needs of many teams throughout the league.
| 2010 MIAMI DOLPHINS MOCKS AROUND THE NET |
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| Site | Upd. | 1st Round (12th) |
2nd Round (43rd) |
3rd Round (74th) |
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| Mocking The Draft | 3/5 | ILB | Rolando McClain |
FS | Nate Allen |
NT | Torell Troup |
| New Era Scouting | 3/1 | RB |
C.J. Spiller |
WR |
Arrelious Benn |
NT | Cam Thomas |
| ESPN's Mel Kiper | 3/10 | NT |
Dan Williams |
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| ESPN's Todd McShay | 3/10 | NT | Dan Williams | ||||
| SI.com's Don Banks | 3/4 | OLB | Sergio Kindle |
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| NFL.com's Pat Kirwan | 3/10 |
DE | Jared Odrick |
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| NBC Sports' Evan Silva | 3/9 | OLB | Sergio Kindle |
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| National Football Post | 3/10 | WR |
Dez Bryant |
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| Pro Football Weekly | 1/30 | OLB | Sergio Kindle | ||||
| Al Fronczak | 3/10 | FS |
Earl Thomas |
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| NESN | 3/11 | OLB | Ricky Sapp |
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| FOX Sports | 3/2 | NT | Dan Williams | WR | Brandon LaFell | ILB | Brandon Spikes |
| Scout.com | 3/8 | NT |
Dan Williams |
RB |
Dexter McCluster |
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| Roto Times | 3/1 | WR | Dez Bryant |
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| Football's Future | 3/5 | S |
Taylor Mays |
OLB |
Thaddeus Gibson |
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| Walter Football | 3/9 | OLB | Jason Pierre-Paul |
FS |
Nate Allen |
NT |
Torell Troup |
| Draft Countdown | 2/11 | OLB | Jason Pierre-Paul |
WR | Brandon LaFell | ||
| CBS Sports Rob Rang | 3/9 | NT |
Dan Williams |
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| CBS Sports Chad Reuter | 3/8 | NT |
Dan Williams |
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| CBS Sports' Pete Prisco | 3/4 | OLB |
Brandon Graham | ||||
| Russ Lande | 3/8 | WR | Demaryius Thomas | ||||
| Weller and Bryan | 3/6 | RB | C.J. Spiller |
WR | Brandon LaFell | NT | Cam Thomas |
| DrafTek | 3/11 | RB |
C.J. Spiller | FS |
Nate Allen |
WR |
Carlton Mitchell |
| The Draft Matters | 2/13 |
WR | Dez Bryant | ||||
| Draft King | 3/5 | WR |
Dez Bryant |
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| Football Jabber | 3/7 | NT |
Dan Williams |
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| Fantasy Football Jungle | 2/20 | OLB |
Jason Pierre-Paul |
WR |
Damian Williams |
ILB |
Pat Angerer |
| NFL Draft Dog | 2/28 | OLB | Jason Pierre-Paul | ||||
| Saturdays2Sundays | 1/12 | WR | Arrelious Benn | ||||
| NFL Draft 101 | 3/8 | NT |
Dan Williams |
OLB |
Ricky Sapp | TE |
Aaron Hernandez |
| NFL News and Rumors | 3/11 | RB |
C.J. Spiller |
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| Fantasy Football Xtreme | 3/6 | CB | Joe Haden | ||||
| NFL Mocks | 1/28 | OLB | Sergio Kindle | ||||
| QI Sports | 3/4 | WR |
Dez Bryant |
OLB |
Jerry Hughes |
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| Draft Huddle | 3/3 | OLB |
Brandon Graham |
OLB | George Selvie | WR | Demaryius Thomas |
| Draft Board Insider | 3/5 | OLB | Brandon Graham |
WR |
Brandon LaFell |
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| Scout's Notebook | 3/11 |
OLB |
Jason Pierre-Paul |
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| Redzone Report | 2/11 | OLB | Sergio Kindle | ||||
| Draft Zoo | 2/12 | WR | Dez Bryant | NT | Cam Thomas | OLB | Koa Misi |
| Sunday Kickoff | 3/11 | OLB |
Jason Pierre-Paul |
WR |
Arrelious Benn |
OG |
Mitch Petrus |
| ProFootballTalk | 2/18 | WR | Dez Bryant | ||||
| Scout's Mock Draft Muncher | 3/11 | NT |
Dan Williams |
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| KFFL | 3/3 | NT |
Dan Williams |
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| Sideline Scouting | 3/8 | OLB | Brandon Graham | ||||
Trends:
(Denotes if percentage is up or down over last edition)
Dan Williams: 23% (+)
Dez Bryant: 16% (+)
Jason Pierre-Paul: 14% (-)
Sergio Kindle: 11% (-)
C.J. Spiller: 9% (+)
Brandon Graham: 9% (+)
It should come as no surprise that many of these mocks are aboard the "Dan Williams to Miami bandwagon," especially following the Jason Ferguson suspension. Williams has been seeing draft stock rise in general, too, since his performance all week at the Senior Bowl.
It's also interesting to see that Dez Bryant is seeing an increase despite many "scouts" claiming his stock is actually falling. One of the mocks that had the Dolphins taking Bryant may have said it best, calling the Dolphins one of the organizations strong enough to help mold Dez.
It should come as no shock, though, that Rolando McClain is not being connected to the Dolphins as he once was. Just two weeks ago, 20% of these mocks had Miami taking McClain with the 12th overall pick. But the signing of Karlos Dansby and McClain's potentially falling stock has changed that.
But we're now in the weeks of the "Pro Day" workouts. So these mocks will be very fluid between now and April's draft - especially as the "misinformation" really starts to fly. So it'll be interesting to see how these mocks shift week in and week out.
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CJ Spiller...Dez Bryant
I dont wanna hear anyone elses name.
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by Rzayo24 on Mar 12, 2010 12:18 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
take Dez outta there
and I like where you’re going
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by Little Nicky 21 on Mar 12, 2010 2:28 AM EST up reply actions
Nope, RZ is right. Those two guys are the ones I wanna keep hearing
But I will agree… Spiller > Bryant
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by el presidente 00 on Mar 12, 2010 7:15 AM EST up reply actions
I guess the question is whether or not you would want Chris Johnson
on your team right now. I think Vince Young owes some of his recent “comeback” hoopla on the guy rushing for 2000 yards. Teams definitely respect the run threat and therefore open up the passing game.
Dolphins and Gators baby!
I agree with the no RB
But I am on the OLB bandwagon in round 1 (preferably) or if not, then NT bandwagon.
I just don’t want to see an offensive pick until at least the 4th round
by Vanman_FishFan13 on Mar 12, 2010 9:49 AM EST up reply actions
why?
Phinsider HOF C/O 2010
"Permanence, perseverance and persistence in spite of all obstacles, discouragements, and impossibilities: It is this, that in all things distinguishes the strong soul from the weak." Thomas Carlyle
"The Icon"
Because of the serious lack of talent on the defensive side of the ball
When you give up over 27 points a game, and you cut several of those below average players that led to the bad ranking defensively, and don’t have anyone there to fill the holes (dansby not included), that means you have serious NEEDs. We have people that can catch the football, which is apparent in the numbers Henne was putting up at the end of the year. We have a solid, though admittedly aging RB group who won’t be the same next year….but we all know there are always MANY quality RBs available year in and year out via FA. We scored enough points to have won at least 9 games with a very young offense.
But the fact remains, we just couldn’t stop people from scoring! That means we need defense….not offense. I don’t understand why there was even the question of “why” Neo. I mean don’t get me wrong, I understand why people would want an improved offense. I love the old days of Marino hanging 30 points week in and week out. But other than his record setting offensive year (1984) when did he make it to the superbowl? He didn’t. And can anyone answer me why? LACK OF DEFENSE. You are doomed to failure if we can’t learn from history.
by Vanman_FishFan13 on Mar 12, 2010 10:54 AM EST up reply actions
Mike Nolan and Karlos Dansby make the Phins Defense Better
There is no question about that. Has Nolan ever coached a defense that wasn’t ranked high? Not to my knowledge. He took a bad Denver defense, converted it in a 3-4, brought in a bunch of players released by other teams and turned the unit into the 7th ranked defense last year. Look at the Denver defensive roster compared to the Phins defensive roster. The Phins are better at 7 of the 11 positions. The Phins Defense is considerably better right now compared to the end of last season.
Let's get offensive this offseason!
"It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing." MACBETH
"Walter, I love you, but sooner or later, you're going to have to face the fact you're a goddamn moron." THE DUDE (The Big Lebowski)
But what isn't better is the offense.
The RB position is Old and Hurt. The WR position is ineffective, not one Phins WR would be in the top 3 WR’s of any top 12 passing game. The Phins ranked 31st in the league in pass plays of 20+ yards, only Cleveland was worse.
The Phins have to score more points to compete with the likes of the elite teams in the league (Indy, Min, NO, Pit, etc). A great running game and defense don’t win super bowls anymore. It didn’t for the Ravens in ‘08 or the Jets in ’09. Hell, those teams almost didn’t even make the playoffs, let alone win anything.
Let's get offensive this offseason!
"It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing." MACBETH
"Walter, I love you, but sooner or later, you're going to have to face the fact you're a goddamn moron." THE DUDE (The Big Lebowski)
Wow Ct
well put.-)
Phinsider HOF C/O 2010
"Permanence, perseverance and persistence in spite of all obstacles, discouragements, and impossibilities: It is this, that in all things distinguishes the strong soul from the weak." Thomas Carlyle
"The Icon"
I'm pretty sure I wasn't the only one last year saying...
“What the hell!” after the Pat White pick. As long as we have a draft that doesn’t include that, then I’m fine. Because we all remember 2007 awfully too well.
I am really concerned about our RB postion
Ricky is 33 for Christ sake and we don’t know how Ronnie is gonna come back from is injury.
Phinsider HOF C/O 2010
"Permanence, perseverance and persistence in spite of all obstacles, discouragements, and impossibilities: It is this, that in all things distinguishes the strong soul from the weak." Thomas Carlyle
"The Icon"
And you aren't more concerned with that swiss cheese defense that we had?
That was atrocious! We were ranked with the LIONS and the RAMS for crying out loud! We were ranked right in the middle of the NFL in scoring and yards, so you know we were ok, not great. But we were 30th in scoring defense and 26th in yards allowed.
by Vanman_FishFan13 on Mar 12, 2010 10:56 AM EST up reply actions
bascially
vice versa in 08. Defense was ok and our offense sucked. So now you wanna go vice versa again next year?
Phinsider HOF C/O 2010
"Permanence, perseverance and persistence in spite of all obstacles, discouragements, and impossibilities: It is this, that in all things distinguishes the strong soul from the weak." Thomas Carlyle
"The Icon"
spiller would be sick....
Spiller
Cam T.
B. Spikes
I just dont see Tuna going after a WR in the first 3 rounds.
I hear ya Rzayo!
Those are the only two guys the Phins should consider at #12!
Let's get offensive this offseason!
"It is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing." MACBETH
"Walter, I love you, but sooner or later, you're going to have to face the fact you're a goddamn moron." THE DUDE (The Big Lebowski)
Rz
I’m 100% behind you believe it or not.
Phinsider HOF C/O 2010
"Permanence, perseverance and persistence in spite of all obstacles, discouragements, and impossibilities: It is this, that in all things distinguishes the strong soul from the weak." Thomas Carlyle
"The Icon"
Right on bro!
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Dan Williams
Would be the logical choice. Him or Earl Thomas. Goshhhhh I can’t wait for the draft
It's 2010 - do the smart thing. Draft Myron Rolle.
That's my line of thinking precisely.
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by Dave.Phuller on Mar 12, 2010 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
nope and nope...........
Just one man's opinion...
....."running mac games as if your name was Scott Skiles".....
"mark my words...we will draft 2 corners within the first 4 picks" - 2009
Weller and Bryan FTW
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Winner of the Pats Pulpit "Best Thread-Jacking" Award
Driver of the "LaGarrete Blountwagon"
I'd love to see the New Era Scouting draft scenario play out.
Spiller, Benn and Thomas, love it!!!!!!!!
won't happen...........sorry
Just one man's opinion...
....."running mac games as if your name was Scott Skiles".....
"mark my words...we will draft 2 corners within the first 4 picks" - 2009
you sir are a jerk
Chillin in the Henne ERA!!!!
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Who will win Terrance Cody or Rex Ryan?
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by DPL3 Rollin on Mar 12, 2010 12:33 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
at least you address me as sir.......respect......i like that
Just one man's opinion...
....."running mac games as if your name was Scott Skiles".....
"mark my words...we will draft 2 corners within the first 4 picks" - 2009
Cant we all just get along?
"I hope you know a lot more than you believe in"-Gram Parsons
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
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by texascowpunk on Mar 12, 2010 8:13 AM EST up reply actions
Nope
It’s impossible….too many egos
by Vanman_FishFan13 on Mar 12, 2010 8:40 AM EST up reply actions
... what about pathos..?
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legos?
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by Little Nicky 21 on Mar 12, 2010 4:10 PM EST up reply actions
... let go of my Eggo..?
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preggo
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In case you weren't already aware, it is indeed all about The U.
BIFFLEz with Enhalen
"opps i just grabed sum wood & started nawing" --WZB (CKC 2/2/10)
As do I, but I agree with hwyatt3
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by Dave.Phuller on Mar 12, 2010 11:07 AM EST up reply actions
i like dan williams too.....
however, i don’t believe we can pass on kindle or jpp at number twelve…….
if the front office doesn’t think they can select mount cody (who i hope they think is the real deal like i do) then they will more than likely select dan williams…….
my guess since weeks ago was…….kindle then cody………..i stand by that
Just one man's opinion...
....."running mac games as if your name was Scott Skiles".....
"mark my words...we will draft 2 corners within the first 4 picks" - 2009
regardless of my CJ Spiller game changing comment up above
I have wanted Cody since last year’s draft. Very excited that he went back to school so we can have the chance to grab him this year. Cody is my choice.
Dolphins and Gators baby!
Draft Picks
I would love C.J. i would love big Danny Williams. The more I think about it the more i would be happy with Thomas. As Foy says great safetys dont happen everyday. I would be pissed if we took Bryant, way too immature and way too unreliable. How many of you would be able to sleep in for meetings and expect to be forgiven. People associated with Eugene Parker are trouble and we should stay far away.
Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is perhaps, the end of the beginning.
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Winston Churchill
man Foy got that from me but w.e we both agree on one thing: Earl Thomas
Chillin in the Henne ERA!!!!
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Who will win Terrance Cody or Rex Ryan?
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by DPL3 Rollin on Mar 12, 2010 12:36 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
CJ Spiller
52 TD’s. 21 over 50 yards.
Nahhhhhh….I’ll pass
Phinsider Hall of Fame Class of 09' / 2-Time 09' Matty Award Winner
huh?
the internet really needs to start checking id’s
Phinsider Hall of Fame Class of 09' / 2-Time 09' Matty Award Winner
i think that should have read:
I like – Ricky Williams
I am – Stoner of the year
Just one man's opinion...
....."running mac games as if your name was Scott Skiles".....
"mark my words...we will draft 2 corners within the first 4 picks" - 2009
is that the whole argument for CJ? monster college stats?
because I have never quite understood the bandwagon. He plays the one of the two or three positions on our team not in need of shoring up. We are in the middle of a major defensive overhaul, and need talent on that side of the ball.
On top of that, the BPA argument isn’t really valid, because he doesn’t grade out all that much higher on most board than a lot of the defensive guys out there.
I guess what I’m saying is (to use some totally hypothetical comparisons), if it came down to drafting Chris Johnson or ,say, James Harrison, I would take James Harrison.
by Brooklynfinfan on Mar 12, 2010 9:32 AM EST up reply actions
Ditto Ditto DITTO! :-)
One of the spots on our roster with the most talent is RB…and yet some advocate taking……..a RB? Particularly an undersized back who has his share of skeptics?
I’ll take my chances with Ricky & Ronnie in 2010, rather than what we have at FS/NT and to some extent OLB
College stats...
… you have something else on any other draft pick you consider?
Offense scores points. The team has to score more than their opponents. Defenses are not assembled to score points.
Defensive players are easier to get in later rounds. Otherwise the percentages would be higher in picking up Quarterbacks and Recievers in late rounds.
Heavy — hitters (NT’s, LB’s) are not skilled positions. Spiller is number one if scoring points is what you want.
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something else? well...yeah
system. size. need.
We all know how complex drafting is, and how in certain instances stats can be misleading, or less relevant. My point is that you can’t simply say say ‘hey this guy scored 52 TDs! we should draft him!.’ It’s more complex than that, and it’s all those other factors that make CJ an unlikely, and in my (admittedly unimportant) view, unwise pick.
by Brooklynfinfan on Mar 12, 2010 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
also
scoring points was not our problem last year. Giving them up, and quickly, was.
by Brooklynfinfan on Mar 12, 2010 12:40 PM EST up reply actions
why, you must mean like that darn Indy game or the NO game....
it was like playing Madden against our Defense…
why would we get CJ
we would leave right were we left off last season with abunch of great running backs… we already have that! Dan Williams is the man we need!
agreed
as much as I like CJ Spiller, our backfield was not the issue last season
James T Paulson
by Jtpdolphins2009 on Mar 12, 2010 12:44 AM EST up reply actions
heck everyone says we absolutely NEED a #1 WR
I am not so sure about that, our D failing in the 4th quarter lost us about 6 games last season
How about we take care of the defense first and then we can see how badly we need to improve the offense
something tells me that it or offense is in better shape than most think
James T Paulson
by Jtpdolphins2009 on Mar 12, 2010 12:47 AM EST up reply actions
i made a post post about this a few months ago.
Our offense scored like 24 pts per game and our defense gave up like 27 points per game. They were ranked like 15th and 26th respectively.
That screams that we need to fix our D first.
Dolphins and Gators baby!
Actually the scoring defense was ranked 30th
We were 26th in yards per game. We were 30th in points per game. Only the Lions and Rams were worse (Yeah those are the teams I want to be ranked against defensively….so by all means, yes lets draft OFFENSE!! NOT)
by Vanman_FishFan13 on Mar 12, 2010 8:42 AM EST up reply actions
If Adrian Peterson was in this draft
and he fell to 12…would you take him?
thats the kinda player this guy is…mark my words.
he’s also the best return man to come outta college in a decade IMO.
he split out wide and played WR lots…and he dominated.
I dont care if he plays punter…this dude’s on my team
Phinsider Hall of Fame Class of 09' / 2-Time 09' Matty Award Winner
cj spiller = what's that kids name that runs for the saints??
Just one man's opinion...
....."running mac games as if your name was Scott Skiles".....
"mark my words...we will draft 2 corners within the first 4 picks" - 2009
wroooooooooooooong
He aint Reggie Bush.
God forbid we drafted Reggie Bush anyway….I dunno why he gets shit….hes a playmaker
Phinsider Hall of Fame Class of 09' / 2-Time 09' Matty Award Winner
i like you rzayo but i can not agree.....i will eat my shorts if i am wrong and post a picture of it.....
but i have a feeling he is a stud college player that will be a great “change of pace” runner in the big leagues…….i hate the term change of pace…..
anyway he’s too small to draft him so high…….big boys are worth big money
Just one man's opinion...
....."running mac games as if your name was Scott Skiles".....
"mark my words...we will draft 2 corners within the first 4 picks" - 2009
agreed
Reggie scores TD’s from all over the place. I’ll say this. I’d rather have Reggie on my team than Ronnie.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Mar 12, 2010 2:30 AM EST up reply actions
Don't be a douche
Reggie over Ronnie? WTF has Reggie bush done that makes him better than Ronnie. Other than the Super Bowl win (in which he was virtually a ghost) he has been nothing more than a return threat. He’s not even the best RB on his own team and they’re RB by committy, so why the hell would we want him in Miami.
Reggie is incredibly flashy and a threat EVERY time he gets the ball.
Having Ricky and Reggie split time would be very effective and dangerous. But i still love Ronnie!! But Nicky has a point…
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by el presidente 00 on Mar 12, 2010 7:18 AM EST up reply actions
Why is a guy that has his own opinion a douche?
Do you have that big an issue with someone that does not agree with you that you attack them personally? Sad!
"I hope you know a lot more than you believe in"-Gram Parsons
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
Currently one of three pilots for the new and improved SpillWagon fleet of Chinook’s.
by texascowpunk on Mar 12, 2010 8:17 AM EST up reply actions
Well silly ones are just fine!
"I hope you know a lot more than you believe in"-Gram Parsons
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
Currently one of three pilots for the new and improved SpillWagon fleet of Chinook’s.
by texascowpunk on Mar 12, 2010 3:03 PM EST up reply actions
And you can call Nicky a girl just not a douche.
"I hope you know a lot more than you believe in"-Gram Parsons
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
Currently one of three pilots for the new and improved SpillWagon fleet of Chinook’s.
by texascowpunk on Mar 12, 2010 3:03 PM EST up reply actions
What is Reggie's career YPC?
Ronnie has 4.4 ypc with 33 TDs and 7 fumbles in 5 years
Reggie just hit 4.0 with 17 TDs and 8 fumbles in 4 years
I will take Ronnie thank you!
by Vanman_FishFan13 on Mar 12, 2010 8:47 AM EST up reply actions
that's only rushing stats
Reggie is a more dangerous player. There’s backs all over the league that can rack up 700 yards then get hurt like Ronnie does. There are very few players in the league with the skills that Bush has. Ronnie is a better pure running back, but IMO Reggie is more dangerous, and does more for a team. And he’s going to be playing longer.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Mar 12, 2010 4:12 PM EST up reply actions
Exactly..!
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Nicky can have Reggie...
and I’ll take Adrian Peterson.
The saints needed Pierre Thomas, not Reggie Bush, to give them a real running game and someone that can actually get yards inside + carry the ball 15+ times a game….enough to win a SB.
Pierre thomas, he of undrafted history…
I'll take Peterson over everyone except Chris Johnson lol
that’s a no-brainer
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LN21 and MHTD - Goin Commando
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by Little Nicky 21 on Mar 13, 2010 1:03 PM EST up reply actions
Has Reggie Bush even cracked 800 yards rushing?
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by Patssuck456 on Mar 12, 2010 11:32 AM EST up reply actions
Adrian Peterson ha you are funny
CJ will become a great running back with the dolphins just like QB star Ryan Leaf became a great QB with the Chargers… no one knows how good the kid will be…
Please don't compare Spiller to Peterson
He doesn’t run anywhere near as hard as Adrian does and he hasn’t even taken a snap in the pros. It isn’t fair to him to be compared to Peterson (one of the top 3 RBs in the league)
by Vanman_FishFan13 on Mar 12, 2010 9:00 AM EST up reply actions
Not to mention...
Peterson is incredibly strong and is a big guy who can outrun defenses as well as run over defenders.
College stats?... Barry Sanders or CJ Spiller?...
Ht: 5’ 8"
Wt: 200lbs
Yds: 3,556
Avg: 6.8
TDs: 47
Ht: 5’ 11"
Wt: 200lbs
Yds: 3,547
Avg: 5.9
TDs: 32
Give me a play maker….
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Exactly! I don't understand how the total lack of playmakers on offense is not the biggest issue for some!
This league is dominated by offense and offensive playmakers and the Phins have none, zero, zilch!
Let's get offensive this offseason!
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Woah fella's...
comparing CJ Spiller to Barry Sanders….one of the all-time greats & a dominater at his position at every level?
Methinks y’all are being might premature!
Only at the college stats...
… and it will be inevitable to make comparaisons “going into” the pros.
It’s all premature… everyone of the players talked about, but you gotta go with something, some stats, figures, physiques, skills and game tape. So yeah, coming out of college the two look very similar.
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Except...
Reggie had better stats than Barry Sanders and CJ SPiller.
I think too much emphasis on college stats and not enough on what abilities, size, build, and intangibles best translate to the pro game.
In that regard, I see a lot more Reggie Bush in CJ SPiller than even Chris Johnson. The latter being the only small back out there that’s a top 10 guy.
But the value for someone like Reggie isn't necessarily in the stats
D-Coordinators game plan around Reggie. They have said as much. Whether he lines up as a RB, WR, or kick returner, he requires a game plan to defend. If the D-Coordinator is required to game plan around Reggie, that should leave other players the ability to be more productive.
Who on offense for the Phins is a D-Coordinator game planning around? Who commands a double team or bracket coverage? No one IMO. Spiller could give us that guy. And therefore make every one else on offense better.
Let's get offensive this offseason!
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well said
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by Little Nicky 21 on Mar 13, 2010 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
Since y'all wanna
play the stats game, here are some more:
343 attempts
2648 yards
7.72 ypc/avg
6’0, 200
Those stats of course, belong to one Reggie Bush who is the highest drafted change of pace/3rd down pack in the league :-)
Put Reggie in the Wildcat too...
It all depends on how the team uses him too. The Saints game around Brees, the Dolphins pull their quarterback out for plays. So it’s different all around.
I would take Reggie over Ronnie. I would also take Ricky over Ronnie. But timing is everything, right?
And at this time, I would take Spiller over ANY defensive player at #12 save one. A FS, NT and OLB is available later…. but not a Spiller.
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hey ya'll i got stats out the wazoo!
9,000,000,000 attempts
700,000,000,000,000 yards
infinite ypc/avg
5’11", 195lbs
projected 2018 stats for CeeJay Spilllllllllllerrrrrr

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I just hope...
that Cam Thomas is available in the 3rd round
My thought
if a team in the top 5 or 6 would take Ronnie Brown, that would give us 2 first round picks
Use the 1st pick in the 1st round to get S Eric Berry
Use the 2nd pick in the 1st round to get CJ Spiller
Use our 2nd round pick to get WR Benn
Use our 3rd round pick to get NT Cam Thomas
sounds like a dream, but if someone up towards the top were to want Ronnie Brown, it could be a reality
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Mar 12, 2010 12:52 AM EST reply actions
are their floating mushrooms and midgets in your dream too?
A) Nobody wants Ronnie that badly…they would just pick Spiller.
B)Ronnie is coming off foot surgery.
C)To get Eric Berry it would have to be a top 7 team….and they would have to want Ronnie over that kinda talent.
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thats what I said, top 5 or 6
you never know, a struggling franchise may want him in its backfield
look at what the Ravens gave up to get Boldin…..for a guy of his talent they gave up nothing basically
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Mar 12, 2010 12:57 AM EST up reply actions
uhhh
exactly…big talent…got almost nothing for him
Nobody wants Ronnie for a Top 6 pick. People would laugh and hangup on the Phins.
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im not convinced that the front office wants to deal ronnie......
the guy is a stud and we have depth……..
Just one man's opinion...
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yea and if that is the case
If we still have Ronnie, we have no need for Spiller
Than you grab whoever the best player at one of our positions of NEED at #12 and go from there; probably Dan Williams
I like the idea of getting Benn or Edwards in round 2 at WR
Then in round 3 you address the LB issue, but there seems to be enough options that good players at all of our need positions will be available.
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Mar 12, 2010 1:01 AM EST up reply actions
that being said, if you feel WR is a need
then we may have to address one of our 4 big need positions (S, WR, NT, LB) in free agency
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Mar 12, 2010 1:03 AM EST up reply actions
should say OLB, not just LB
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Mar 12, 2010 1:04 AM EST up reply actions
that is our biggest hole.......everyone was screaming for linebackers last year......
this is the year of the linebacker………….everyone called me a fool for telling them that not only were we not going to pick a linebacker with the first, that we weren’t going to pick one with the 2nd, 3rd, or 4th…………..
i said corners………what did we do………..corners…………
i don’t get paid to do this stuff but i have been spending too much of time doing it for a long time and i know what i’m talking about………
Just one man's opinion...
....."running mac games as if your name was Scott Skiles".....
"mark my words...we will draft 2 corners within the first 4 picks" - 2009
Ok so if we had 4 positions of need...
WR, S, OLB and NT
which position would you NOT fill in the 1st 3 rounds of the draft?
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Mar 12, 2010 1:09 AM EST up reply actions
wr
Just one man's opinion...
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thats easy
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agreed, cuz IMO
we dont really need a #1 WR
I really think that our D failing late in games somehow got reflected on the offense
I dont think we need a “#1 WR”, what does that mean anyway? lol
Our offense could move the ball when they needed too
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Mar 12, 2010 1:11 AM EST up reply actions
thank you very much.........
Just one man's opinion...
....."running mac games as if your name was Scott Skiles".....
"mark my words...we will draft 2 corners within the first 4 picks" - 2009
Its hard to gauge what our record....
would have been, if the D hadnt failed so much late in games
Fix the D first, then it wont all be on the young offense like it seemed it was last season. Our team was a ball control offense; which to me is perfectly fine and effective. However when the D gave up points like they did last season, it forced our offense out of its comfort zone. That is where some said we needed a #1 WR, because we didnt have the deep ball threat and couldnt score quickly.
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Mar 12, 2010 1:14 AM EST up reply actions
yup.....
i like the idea of picking up darren sharper…..
you know the league experts are recognizing that it is becoming a “passing game”……..but i have to confer with the few that still say that defense and ground game win championships….
was the superbowl high scoring? yes
was there a lot of passing? yes
were there two great quarterbacks out there? yes
was the ground game equally important to the passing game? yes
which side of the ball sealed the win?
you know the answer to that one……….
Just one man's opinion...
....."running mac games as if your name was Scott Skiles".....
"mark my words...we will draft 2 corners within the first 4 picks" - 2009
yup get Sharper in here at safety
then draft at NT and LB
also I like the idea of picking up Benn or Edwards at WR in round 2
There is how you fix things lol
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Mar 12, 2010 1:21 AM EST up reply actions
Also look at the injuries on offense too
our backfield was hurting big time at the end of the season
No CP10, No Cobbs, No Ronnie and Ricky was playing hurt too; Henne was basically a rookie out there and we have young receivers
What did we exactly expect from the offense? And in the end they were better and more reliable than the defense was.
So I say again, fix the defense first, we will worry about the offense when the time comes.
James T Paulson
by Jtpdolphins2009 on Mar 12, 2010 1:18 AM EST up reply actions
i with you buddy..........
Just one man's opinion...
....."running mac games as if your name was Scott Skiles".....
"mark my words...we will draft 2 corners within the first 4 picks" - 2009
i told a few of the guys on here a few weeks ago that i predict 4 linebackers picked up in the offseason
i think it was finster, rzayo and oh…i cant remember now….
but anyway they were like….. “i dunno about four?”
well, i count dansby as one….that leave three more in the draft…….watch
Just one man's opinion...
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Kindle, Spikes and who? lol
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Mar 12, 2010 1:15 AM EST up reply actions
i do like kindle.....a lot
but we cant draft all 3 in the first two rounds……
there are a few guys out there that i have been doing research on…….i will say this that i am not drinking the kool-aid on those undersized lineman turned 3-4 olb’s…..like those kids outta michigan and tcu and what’s that other one….witherspoon….anyway, you know who i’m talking about….everyone on here is all mancrushing on those guys………not me…..
and not bill parcells either…….i’m sure of that
Just one man's opinion...
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I won't disagree with that
I can promise at least 2 more and most like 3 more!
by Vanman_FishFan13 on Mar 12, 2010 9:03 AM EST up reply actions
the tender is a 1st round pick
where in the 1st round it is, depends on what team would want him
Its not like the Dolphins tendered him for a top 5 1st round pick lol
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Mar 12, 2010 1:00 AM EST up reply actions
don't put me on that boat........and i don't think parcells, ireland or sparano want to be on that boat either.....
lets face it the guy WAS our offense last year until he broke again…..and he will be a large part of it this year again……………….until he breaks….again………..
Just one man's opinion...
....."running mac games as if your name was Scott Skiles".....
"mark my words...we will draft 2 corners within the first 4 picks" - 2009
yup I like Ronnie too
Im not bailing on him either, I was just throwing out a scenario
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by Jtpdolphins2009 on Mar 12, 2010 1:05 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah I guess because Ronnie won't be a top back in 2015.
We’re lucky enough to have one of the best backs in the league. Ronnie’s not going anywhere.
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Ronnie isn't one of the best backs in the league
that’s homer-speak. He can’t stay healthy, and he can’t hit that magic 1,000 yard mark. He’s average. Ronnie hasn’t been a top back in the league yet, he won’t be this year, he won’t be next year, and he’ll be in LT/Edge James territory by 2011/2012. You have one more year of Ronnie, if he doesn’t break down again. Which, given his age and history, should happen about week 9 or 10. Look, I know it sounds negative and anti-Dolphins, but trading Ronnie for the best offer would be a good move for the franchise. If you keep him this season, you get nothing for him after this year, and he most likely leaves in FA, or we waste money and re-sign him through age 30 (basically the end of RB’s)
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by Little Nicky 21 on Mar 12, 2010 2:34 AM EST up reply actions
100% agree with everything you said.
Ronnie has Top 5 talent, but he just never seems to turn that potential into results. He’s been a good back, but I would not call him one of the best in the league.
Dolphins and Gators baby!
You don't need a top back anymore
Look at the teams that won this year, many of them were RB by commitee and I think that is the direction you are going to see more and more teams go.
Saints, no top 10 RB
Colts, no top 10 RB
Pats, no top 10 RB
Cowboys, no top 10 RB
Cards, no top 10 RB
Eagles, no top 10 RB
Jets, debatable Jones was ranked 3rd in yards, but their RB was so good they cut him
Bengals, sorry Benson had a great year but isn’t a top 10 RB, he needs to do it another year but he was ranked 8th in yards
Chargers….not any more…sorry LT
Packers…..Grant was ranked 7th in yards so it’s debatable
The only playoff teams with RBs that a majority of people would count in top 10 are:
Vikings, no one will argue with Peterson
Rice, likely to be very good for a long time
Lets look at the teams that had some of the best RBs
Jags, MJD…..no playoffs
Rams, Jackson…..umm…where are they drafting?
Titans, Johnson…..no playoffs last year but not due to lack of his effort
Falcons, Turner….though I don’t think he is top 10 everyone else thought he was going into last year….no playoffs
49ers, Gore……great when healthy….no playoffs
by Vanman_FishFan13 on Mar 12, 2010 9:16 AM EST up reply actions
Ok, just to point out though
that the teams that had the great backs that you listed, all have other problems on the team.
The Rams have huge problems everywhere except with Steven Jackson and (debatable) the defense. I only say the defense because it was much improved this past season than it had been for the last 3 or 4 years. And Jackson was literally their only offensive weapon. But considering the huge problems they have at QB, O-line, WRs, TE, and CB, I don’t think that really supports your argument that a top back isn’t needed. If the Rams had a RB by committee system, I bet they would have finished exactly the same or possibly worse.
Jags: Just barely missed the playoffs.
Titans: Again, just barely missed the playoffs, and because it took them so long to put Vince Young back in.
Falcons: I’ll agree, I don’t think Turner is top 10 yet, I think you have to consistently be good for a few years before you can be considered that.
49ers: They don’t really have any big receiving threats other than Vernon Davis and they don’t have that good of a QB (either one), which I think contributed more to them not getting into the playoffs.
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But the point is RB isn't a necessity
Its a nice to have luxury. If you have a great offensive line, you can have damn near any RB back there and succeed (Yes Denver, we are talking about your team from about 5 years ago) Our OL is talented enough that an average RB will look great and rack up some serious yards and TDs.
Our defense on the other hand will never be competitive without virtually a complete overhaul. Sure we can keep 3 or 4 of the pieces but we need to replace a lot of them if we are going to be competitive for many years to come and not just this year.
by Vanman_FishFan13 on Mar 12, 2010 9:57 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah you're right, Nicky. Actually, they should just cut Ronnie.
He can be easily replaced, probably with a 6th or 7th rounder. You’ve changed my mind Ronnie isn’t that good.
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LOL
Alrighty then….next round down range?
by Vanman_FishFan13 on Mar 12, 2010 9:40 AM EST up reply actions
No ... you don't understand ...they like him ... they just want to trade him...
Because in backwords world where they live that is what you do with a playmaker when they turn 28. I am sure they would be saying the same thing about Peyton Manning also…..
I am with you. You don’t trade a playmaker for another younger playmaker… That is not how you get better.
by Jason Scott_90 on Mar 12, 2010 3:04 AM EST up reply actions
It's not that at all. And way to be condescending and take things out of context.
Here is the point, Ronnie will be 29 this year and most RBs start to decline between ages 30-32. And because of the massive beating they take, the decline is not slow and gradual like it is with a WR or a QB. Usually it is a sharp decline that only gets faster when the player has season ending injuries, and Ronnie’s had a few of them. He hasn’t proven that he can stay healthy for an entire season, so next year when he is a FA, I don’t think he will be re-signed. Whether or not we like Ronnie is irrelevant, from a business standpoint (which is how the FO has to look at this) if we trade him now, we can still get some compensation for him whereas next year we risk losing him for nothing.
What I don’t get is why people are unwilling to consider the idea of filling a hole before it becomes a massive need. Next year Ricky is planning to retire and Ronnie will be an UFA, and if neither of them comes back (a very real possibility) then we will have a gaping hole at the RB position. At the very least, we keep Ronnie and lose Ricky, in which case we still have a need for a good RB in case Ronnie goes down again. And I don’t see any of the RBs from next year’s draft as having anywhere near the level of talent that Spiller does.
What it comes down to is filling a future need before it becomes a huge deficiency. The FO is looking to build this team to be a strong contender consistently for years to come, not just fill the biggest needs for the next season. We can shore up the RBs before they become a liability to the offense and still get some great players in the rest of this draft, given the depth of this class.
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by Chupathingy on Mar 12, 2010 10:36 AM EST up reply actions
I am against filling a future hole before it becomes a need because we HAVE PLENTY of other NEEDS to address
What you are saying is you want to buy a new Lexus because you think your 5 year old toyota Camery might go bad in a year or two….but you don’t want to pay your electricity bill or buy groceries! I don’t understand that rationale??
Now if our budget was sitting nice, and we had groceries and our electricity bill was paid for the next couple of years, I would be right there with you wanting to buy that new Lexus!
by Vanman_FishFan13 on Mar 12, 2010 10:46 AM EST up reply actions
The really good teams don't draft for "need", they draft the best player available
If you constantly draft for “need” you miss out on difference makers. Why would you want the 3rd best NT when the best RB or WR is available? Shouldn’t a team continue to build on strenghts? Did the Vikings draft Adrian Peterson based on “need”, when they had a quality back in Chester Taylor? Did the Steelers draft Mendenhall based on “need”, when they had Willie Parker? Didn’t both of those players make their teams significantly better even though they weren’t “needs”?
When you draft for “need” you increase the likelyhood of a bust because “need” implies “reach”.
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by ct1361 on Mar 12, 2010 11:27 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
And the Rams...
drafted Jackson while they still had Faulk! And you gotta love S-Jax!
The Cowboys drafted Felix Jones when they had Marion Barber.
There are countless examples of this type of drafting in the 1st round in the NFL.
Let's get offensive this offseason!
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Yep. Aint that strange at all....
Except for the Jets. Anything the Jats do is ugly, stupid, strange, and sucks.
Cause they suck!
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by Little Nicky 21 on Mar 12, 2010 4:13 PM EST up reply actions
Oh... hell yeah..!!!
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uh.......yeah............reply to what?
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dude you are stoner of the year.............
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Mocking The Draft has it best....
I’m still 100% for taking a FS in the 1st, but having said that, the best 3-round line-up I see is
ILB Rolando McClain
FS Nate Allen
NT Torell Troup
I say we draft defense this year and work our offense more next year, but that’s with 0 knowledge of how deep next year’s draft will be, so yeah. Regardless, Earl Thomas in the 1st still looks best.
#54
Mocking The Draft has it best....
The Trifecta has had a look at E.Thomas and they were still pursuing Antrell Rolle and Ryan Clark if Thomas was the pick I don’t think they would have offered those guys contracts
by 'Jason Farber on Mar 12, 2010 2:33 AM EST up reply actions
Uhhhh well since neither Rolle or Clark worked out at all
I would say Thomas is looking a little more likely, wouldn’t you?
#54
Hopefully we will draft no one in the first round.
The Dolphins have needs at WR,OLB,NT, and Safety. I see a lot of people mocking Dan Williams to the Phins at 12th overall and while I wouldn’t have a problem with that I think it would be wise to wait for the 2nd round to get a NT. I think there is not that much of a drop between Williams, Cam Thomas, and Mt. Cody. I think the wise thing for the Phins to do is see if they could get a trade partner to drop in the 1st (possibly picking up and extra 3rd) then with the Phins first pick send it to Denver For Brandon Marshall. In the second round they address NT with either Mt. Cody or Cam Thomas. 3rd Round draft Koa Misa DE/OLB from Utah and with 3rd round pick B draft Eric Norwood, OLB, South Carolina and in the 4th round draft Major Wright. That would shore up most the Phins needs and at the same time get a proven WR that would help production on Henne, Brown, and the rest of the receivers.
Recap:
Round1.Brandon Marshall
Round 2. Mt. Cody or Cam Thomas
Round 3a. Koa Misa
Round 3b. Eric Norwood
Round 4. Major Wright
Not the worst idea
But I just really don’t see us getting Marshall… It’s just so un-Parcells to 1.) seek out a “diva receiver” and 2.) trade valuable draft picks. He’s obv wise enough to know that Marshall would be a big upgrade, but I just don’t see Parcells suddenly changing face.
#54
the "trade valuable draft picks" argument gets on my nerves
Is there really a guy in this draft BETTER than Brandon Marshall? Are we getting that guy at 12, and knowing absolutely that he’s better? Not a chance. We aren’t talking about trading two 1’s, or a 1, 2, and 3.. we’re talking about trading our first rounder. For one of the top WR’s in the league. Not for a guy people THINK will be good, for a guy who is already good, and has proven it for 3 straight years.
If you could draft Brandon Marshall at 12, would you?
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by Little Nicky 21 on Mar 12, 2010 2:39 AM EST up reply actions
Don't get me wrong, I totally agree
But you and I don’t run the team, partner. I’m trying to realistically look at this from what the Trifecta are most likely to do, and it’s a bummer but I just don’t see them going after Marshall. Zach Thomas (greatest motherf**king player ever thank you) said on an interview the other day that we should absolutely go after Marshall, so that at least will get his name going around the horn a little more.
#54
Oh I know
I just don’t see how trading valuable draft picks is part of Parcells’ argument in this case, since it really doesn’t apply. I think the “diva WR” part is the reason we haven’t kicked the tires on that one. But I also know that Marshall wasn’t the only guy to have issues with McDaniels, and that when he’s on the field, regardless of immaturity in the locker room, he was the best player on the field in every game last year.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Mar 12, 2010 2:48 AM EST up reply actions
Another problem is our other pressing needs
We’re in a bad spot where we’re probably going to have to draft a starter at either NT or FS…. And if you’re looking to draft an instant starter, 1st/2nd round are obv your best options. The FO will probably look at our receiving corps and decide that they’re not really all THAT bad (esp. with Hartline movin’ on up) in comparison to what’s happening with our holes on defense.
#54
No
Not with the glaring holes on defense. I wouldn’t take an offensive player until at least the 4th round this year. But I am old school and thinks defense is the key. I saw year after year of Marino hanging 30 points week in and week out only to lose. I see that same potential happening here if we don’t get some talent, and lots of it, on the defensive side of the ball.
by Vanman_FishFan13 on Mar 12, 2010 9:20 AM EST up reply actions
Exactly Right Nicky!
This argument also gets on my nerves. Like you said, Brandon Marshall would be far and away the best WR in this year’s draft, and would almost certainly be gone by #12. If this FO is going to draft Dez Bryant (I don’t think this will happen), they would be stupid not to trade that pick for Marshall. Absolutely, certifiably insane not to make that move!
Let's get offensive this offseason!
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I know and that sucks. Parcells needs to realize this isn’t the 80’s anymore. I know Marshall is a diva but there is no denying his 3 seasons straight of 100catches and over 1,000yards. Now days which good receivers are not divas? lol If you look at history of Diva players that got traded all of them have settled down with the exception of TO. Moss did great when he went to the Pats. I just look at it that Brandon Marshall is better then anything we will draft at 12th overall and he can help other players around him. Henne needs a #1 and we have none! Why keep wasting draft picks on #2 receivers every year when we could spend a 1st this year (on Marshall) and wouldn’t have to draft another receiver for 5 -8 years.
by 'Jason Farber on Mar 12, 2010 2:41 AM EST up reply actions
I just realized....
I almost kinda wish Ginn never returned those two kickoffs, because there’s definitely a chance that the Trifecta regained a lot of hope for him from that game. Maybe the reason we’re not going after Marshall and didn’t make a move on Antonio Bryant is because they still have faith in Ginn…. but OMG do I hope I’m wrong.
#54
How many years did the Broncos make the playoffs during those three years?
Ummm…wait, I can answer that! ZERO
Offense will only get you so far!
by Vanman_FishFan13 on Mar 12, 2010 9:21 AM EST up reply actions
... that's why they call it a team game (including coaching)...
But what is the scoring part of the team?
Not the defense, right?
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The trifecta
If you look at the moves that the Trifecta has done since joining the Phins are they really doing a good job or are we blind because we have the big tuna? Look at the pro’s and cons
Pros: Cons:
Signed Randy Starks FA Drafted Pat White 2nd Round
Drafted Jake Long Drafted Patrick Turner 3rd Round
Drafted Chad Henne Drafted Sean Murphy 4th Round
Drafted Vontae Davis Signed Justin Smiley FA
Drafted Sean Smith Signed Jake Grove FA
Drafted Kendall Langford Signed Ernest Wilford FA
Signed Karlos Dansby FA Let Matt Roth go for nothing
Drafted Brian Hartline
Can anyone had to these lists?
dont think
justin smiley is a con. but yes trading away sam sately for a 4th round draft pick. paying Grove a little less than baltimore center who went to the rams I think and hearing it was because he wanted too much money and then paying grove almost as much. letting joey porter stay on the field and not seeing what we had in our yound LB’s. . playing pat white period
by virginiafinfan on Mar 12, 2010 3:11 AM EST up reply actions
I really don’t want to give up on Patrick Turner just yet. He’s got the size and raw skills to be a beast. I’d give him more time, more than Teddy G but that’s another issue in itself. And Jake Grove was a decent pick up, he started most the season and if anything should be viewed as a good depth player.
giving up on patrick turner cuz hes raw talent
is like giving up on chris clemons cuz hes raw. im like the driver of the chris clemons bandwagon and i understand the kid needs time, same as PT needs time.. i just dont get how pps think clemons is the best thing to happen to fs (matty dont rape me on that i know how you feel about tyrone culver) and yet everyone thinks turner is a bust? i mean really come on…
best thing to happen to fs?
Who says this? If this was true then FS wouldn’t be a problem at the moment.
#54
I agree on letting the WR develop
WR is a tough position to walk right into and play, let alone start. Give it two or three years and then you can lable him how you want.
by Vanman_FishFan13 on Mar 12, 2010 9:31 AM EST up reply actions
What's your point here bro??
Being that you replied to my post, I’m lost at what you’re getting at. First, I said I think we need to give Patrick Turner a little more time, he hasn’t even got a chance to show what he can do on game day. I never said he was a bust. I think Teddy is a bust at the #1 WR spot but I also think if he didn’t have that pressure over his head to be the best on the team he might just show up a blossom a little. And then you bring up Clemons and no one said anything about Clemons. He too needs that opportunity to show what he can do.
Just out of curiosity...
Does anyone else think that if our front seven had been better this year maybe, just maybe, Gibril Wilson could could have had a better showing? I know he missed a lot of sure tackles but at the same time I think he was out of position a lot due to the lack of coverage by our linebackers and the lack of a consistent pass rush. All I’m saying is that if we don’t address more of the problems up front then it wont matter who is sitting back there, we could end up with the same results. It’s just a thought, not saying that releasing Wilson was a mistake, just saying I think he could have been better had the front seven been able to handle their assignments a little better.
I don't doubt that there was a cause effect relationship there to a degree
But for what he delivered vs what he was getting paid to deliver, he had to go!
by Vanman_FishFan13 on Mar 12, 2010 10:47 AM EST up reply actions
True, very true
Dude is still getting paid too. All that guaranteed money from both us and the Oakland Thugs is a pretty load to sit on for contributing nothing. So is there a void or are we pretty much in the same boat as we were when we had him?? Some may argue that the FS’s we have can’t do any worse.
everyone saying
that our holes are. NT, WR, FS, and OLB.
But this team of guys likes to draft two players per one HOLE when we need something. Two corners last year. Two DE the year before. So I say the will prob draft NT OR FS first round and then next two picks on OLBs
Let's be honest....
Our receiving corps could be Wayne + Fitzgerald + Marshall and they’d still have trouble getting open against those two. I have a very bad feeling about Cromartie, I think having Revis opposite of him is going to do wonders for him, and be hell for the AFC East.
#54
@Thomas I agree with you 100% I think we are going to have a hard time throwing the ball against the Jets this year. Cromartie lit it up his first two years in the league and he has one crappy year and gets traded for a 3rd? I think the Jets got a steal for him. If we don’t get WR help I think we might be the ones to get swept this year by the Jets. The Jets make all of the moves I wish Miami would make. They got Kris Jenkins for a steal, they got Cromartie for a steal, they traded for Braylon Edwars, they picked up Bart Scott, and the list goes on and on. I wish the Trifecta would grow some balls and take chances every once in awhile.
by 'Jason Farber on Mar 12, 2010 4:02 AM EST up reply actions
Cromartie was one of the bottom 2 ranked CBs in 2008
He was in the bottom half last year. I really don’t think he will be that great for the Jets. Sure, he makes a dencent number of INTs but he is the worst tackling CB, and can’t play the run at all, he also gives up a lot of big plays. I really feel aside from 2007 he is a below average CB. The Jets can have him.
by Vanman_FishFan13 on Mar 12, 2010 9:37 AM EST up reply actions
Im starting to lean towards this for the draft
1-Best NT available, I wouldnt mind Willams or Cody. Let the staff and the FO decide which they like better.
2-Either OLB from TCU, Id prefer Hughes but me might be gone by 43. Washington should be available though.
3-AJ Edds, He may be the best pure strongside LB in the draft. A big need, unless we want to see a lot of Charlie Anderson this year.
4-Robert Johnson
by okcdolphinsfan on Mar 12, 2010 4:53 AM EST via mobile reply actions
DRAFT
BEST CASE SCENARIO
- trading down
1) OLB
2) NT
3) OLB/ FS / TE
4) TE / FS
…) WR / RB / OLB / ILB / OG
Draft Thoughts
Rd 1 – Safety: I say safety because I believe Parcells and Co. will want to draft a guy who will be able to be on the field for much of the time.
If Eric Berry falls to us, then we must take him. It’s as simple as that.
If not, then I say we draft FS Earl Bennett from Texas. He is a great FS: he has incredible speed and atleticism, much like Berry. He is only a couple notches below Berry, in my opinion. He had 8 ints last year.
RD 2 – OLB
I believe our options will be Jerry Hughes or Ricky Sapp. Either one would be a good get for the Phins
Rd 3 – DT
Here is where I believe we will see a DT taken. We could get Mount Cody, Cam Thomas or Linval Joseph at this point.
by Jonathan McCarter on Mar 12, 2010 8:54 AM EST reply actions
Do you mean Earl Thomas?
I would agree…I would love to get Berry but it won’t happen. Mark my words….we would have to trade up to get him and that isn’t going to happen.
by Vanman_FishFan13 on Mar 12, 2010 9:38 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, Earl Thomas
Not sure why I put Bennett… LOL
Yeah, I don’t see Berry falling to us either, and I don’t want to trade everything to get him
by Jonathan McCarter on Mar 12, 2010 11:36 AM EST up reply actions
Loving FOXsports Draft...I'm Iffy on Spikes. I feel he has about the same speed as Crowder. No good. But La Fell will be there in the second round.
43rd pick might be high? I don’t think Benn will be available and someone is just going to fall in love with the What if with Dez. I’m not sure if the dolphins will stay at 12. I think 12 is too high for dan williams. Or for any DT not Suh.
We have to draft Dan Williams at #12
unless we can trade down, or unless the trifecta don’t care for him. NT is our #1 need. We need to draft someone who can come in and have significant playing time from day 1. There are few good NTs out there and only 3 potential ones can come in and play right away (Williams, Cody, and Thomas). But I don’t think we can take the risk of hoping one of them falls to our second round pick, which is why we really need to draft Williams at #12.
I can totally agree with DT being our need. As for plays...
He’ll only play about 36 – 40 snaps. Where the average plays within the game can be 60- 73 (Colts game). But I don’t think he is the 12th pick. I know a ton of teams are in the 34 system and or moving to it…soo there is a risk. But I can’t get over how many players are left on the board after 11 picks. I think my judgement is clouded because DT is soo unsexy. But its a very critical piece.
Ask Baltimore about taking H. Ngota that high in the draft...
and how’s that working for their defense.
Eddie V
by DolphinNation on Mar 12, 2010 9:42 AM EST up reply actions
But who did they have play at the LB and safety positions?
Would Ngota made that type of impact on say the Lions or Rams?
by Vanman_FishFan13 on Mar 12, 2010 9:52 AM EST up reply actions
Tough to tell...
But the dude was an All Pro in his 2nd year.
Eddie V
by DolphinNation on Mar 12, 2010 10:50 AM EST up reply actions
Easy to be an all pro when you have many all pros behind you
Teams weren’t going to double and triple team Ngota and then allow Bart Scott, Ray Lewis and the other guys they had back there to roam free. That allowed Ngota to have more playmaking skills.
Here is the thing. Without studs at the LB positions, teams can double and triple team the NT and not have to worry about LBs killing them. But when you have studs in the back, teams aren’t as quick to constantly double and triple the LBs, which allows the playmakers to come through.
by Vanman_FishFan13 on Mar 12, 2010 10:59 AM EST up reply actions
Ngota is a DE not a NT
DE’s are significantly more important NT.
Let's get offensive this offseason!
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NO He ISNT
Ngota is a DT. . HOW can you be sooo wrong
by virginiafinfan on Mar 12, 2010 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
Look at the Depth Chart for the Baltimore Ravens
Here is the link:
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/players/playerpage/417708/haloti-ngata
Kelly Gregg was the primary NT for the Ravens.
Let's get offensive this offseason!
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No one noticing Pat Kirwan???
He’s saying Buffalo may go after Dan Williams… Anyone heard or studied Odrick?
Dan Williams 12th Overall Bandwagon: As the NFL slowly converts to a 3-4 defense, we need to consider the true value of the 3-4 NT. There are about as many stud 3-4 NT's as there are stud QB's in the NFL currently. Problem is, until this coming season, less than half of the NFL ran a 3-4... So as more teams adopt the 3-4, there will be an ever increasing void of available NT beasts, and of course a rising premium (cost) for them. Taking a franchise NT makes complete sense to me.
No, but...
I can’t imagine Buffalo not going offense in Round 1. I was watching something the other day (NFL Live, maybe?) and they talked about the Bills taking Jimmy Clausen or possibly even Dez Bryant.
I live 2 hours from Buffalo…trust me, the fans are p*ssed. They are going to need a face of the franchise.
Eddie V
by DolphinNation on Mar 12, 2010 9:44 AM EST up reply actions
They need an OL or it won't matter who they put at QB!!
by Vanman_FishFan13 on Mar 12, 2010 9:53 AM EST up reply actions
Oakland Raiders East...
LMAO – good luck with Chan Gailey.
Eddie V
by DolphinNation on Mar 12, 2010 10:51 AM EST up reply actions
And what's great is the fact that they wouldn't have this massive LT hole if they had taken Oher last April
kmb8488 -- The Johnny Lawrence of the Phinsider!
Not Odrick, but I studied Oedipus...
lol
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What's all the hub-bub about?
How’s this look, boys?
Scenario #1:
Round 1 – Dan Williams – NT
Round 2 – Jerry Hughes – OLB
Round 3 – Demaryius Thomas – WR
Round 4 – Major Wright or Jimmy Graham
Scenario # 2:
Round 1 – Jason Pierre-Paul – OLB
Round 2 – Cam Thomas – NT
Round 3 – Jonathan Dwyer – RB
Round 4 – Major Wright or Jimmy Graham
Eddie V
im on board with the DT. we just have to do it. Its like paying bills..Yea you want the hooker, but You gotta spend that 150 dollars paying the cable bill
we need a new rule: no posting in Draft threads if you're really, really stoned.
Eric Berry falling to #12? Trading Ronnie for, not only a first round pick, but top 7?? Drafting Big Pun in the first? “Bunch of great” RBs?? And how is McClain even a topic of discussion anymore?!
Pipe dream; pipe dream; horrible decision; part-time IR resident + a guy in his last season + STs monster + benchwarmers = “bunch” & “great”; irony of rectal bleeding & playing for the Crimson Tide cannot be ignored, sleeps on plastic sheets.
May i present you with the answer to your Round 1: 12th overall pick of 2010 draft queries:

Nicky, TCP & CHL approved. We wouldn’t lie to you.
The man looks good in orange, eh?
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Sure does, but IMHO...
Not to be a buzz-kill here, but what would drafting Spiller at #12 solve? I understand the kid is a game-breaker and all that, but there are much more pressing needs in the organization than RB. I’m good with drafting a RB for depth later in the draft (see my post earlier RE: a kid like J. Dwyer), but if the Dolphins can’t stop anybody on defense, it won’t matter. Stats don’t lie, my friend.
Signing Dansby is huge for Miami – it plugged a big hole in the middle of the D. However, there’s more work to be done on that side of the ball (OLB, NT, especially) IMO. If Miami can draft D. Williams at #12 (I know, not as sexy as Spiller) and a kid like Hughes (or Sapp) in Round 2, that’s going to give Nolan a bunch of new toys to play with. Given the lack of playmakers and/or youth on D, we have to go defense. Again, just my 2 cents on the matter.
Eddie V
by DolphinNation on Mar 12, 2010 10:37 AM EST up reply actions
I understand your point, but a player like Spiller doesn't come around very often.
CJ Spiller…C(hris)…J(ohnson)…Spiller #28…Johnson $28…prophecy! It’s destiny man, don’t fight it.

Yeah. SpillWagon is in full force.
On a serious note; I fully agree that a strong D is what will get us to the promised land, but it’s a deep draft, and the FO uses later round picks wisely. I just don’t think Spiller is worth passing up for Dan Williams, or especially Dwyer.
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fitting Spiller promotion into the work day is not an easy thing
i hope the FO recognizes my self-sacrifice & rewards me with #28 in teal, orange & white.
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Clear the Spillway!!
The choppers are coming in fast!
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On a side note,
as if we needed any more reason to make fun of Mark Sanchez and the Jets, I present you with this:
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LMAO...
… I want to say sooo much on that post.
Will he be posing in panty hose next?
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Who knows? But if he follows trend
he will pose in pantyhose next, and then in a few years get completely wasted on the sidelines and in an interview with Pam Oliver tell her he wants to make out with her.
Or maybe he’ll do that in a sideline interview with Tony Siragusa. Who knows.
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the handlebar part is to catch rex's seed so he doesn't waste a drop.
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LOL!!
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if only i wasn't banned from GGN :(
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Same here.
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quick someone post that on there!
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They cannot stop us.
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spread your CJ propaganda ,newly converted SpilLOVEr
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I like New Era Scouting's picks,
although I would say that I would definitely not mind replacing Benn with Jerry Hughes (if he falls that far). I would love it if it worked out like this:
1. CJ Spiller
2. Hughes (preferably) or Benn
3. Cam Thomas
4. Major Wright
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RB
i dont want spiller I want Alabamams Ingram in next years draft
Spiller = next McFadden
by Crowder 911 on Mar 12, 2010 11:02 AM EST up reply actions
You're on drugs. Spiller is a completely different player than McFadden. Watch some of the games next year.
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by NavajoShamanSchoolAlum on Mar 12, 2010 11:26 AM EST up reply actions
Ingram is in no way shape or form
better than Spiller. And Spiller will not be anything like McFadden.
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This is the draft that I would soil my pants over. I love all of it. Major Wright is a stud and will shore up our secondary.
Cam Thomas is a solid hole plugging NT and Spiller is a factor back for years to come.
NIce work new era. I’ll be putting some cash down for a Major Wright Jersey when/if this happens.
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by NavajoShamanSchoolAlum on Mar 12, 2010 11:27 AM EST up reply actions
Yep, good stuff there...
Spiller = Sanders
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Bryant or Williams
I definitely want Williams because the NT is an important position in the 3-4. If there is any team capable of dealing with Bryant it’s the Dolphins. That is definitely a very good choice too. I think going Williams/Thomas is great with Jacoby Ford in the 2nd. That little guy can fly and would instantly create a spark for the offense
Our picks should be...
1. Earl Thomas – Safety – Texas
2. Arrelious Benn – WR – ILL
3. Cam Thomas – NT – UNC
4. Dexter Davis – OLB – ASU
5. ILB
6. RB
7. OL
If I'm a chicken, you're a turkey....
Take Williams or Earl the Pearl Thomas.
Then take Dexter in round two. That way you take care of offense and defense. Or if you take Spillier in round one you can most likely pick up Cam Thomas or Mt. Cody who I am starting to think highly of.
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by NavajoShamanSchoolAlum on Mar 12, 2010 11:24 AM EST reply actions
Dexter McLusker out of Ole Miss I meant to say.
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by NavajoShamanSchoolAlum on Mar 12, 2010 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
he is a little on the short side
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by Patssuck456 on Mar 12, 2010 11:33 AM EST up reply actions
The way it is
There sure are alot of people wanting spiller. I like him alot but it leaves the defense still too empty and defense wins championships. The Saints shut down Manning, plain and simple, but Offense dows get you to the championships, I will say that. Anyway, Spiller would still be a great pick, I just don’t see Tuna going for him. I’m not sold on Big Dan either. We seriously need a NT to anchor the D-line, I’m not sure Dan Williams is it. I like Cam Thomas alot but may not be there when we are ready to take him. I think Troup would be a good late rd pick but I think Linval Joseph would be the best pick for us, he is a beast and put 225 lbs up 39 times, had 60 tackles, 13 TFL and 6 sacks. That is insane for a NT. I do not like WR Thomas, waaaaay to much of a project player and we have that already with Pat Turner. I’m a die hard LSU fan living in Louisiana and I have watched LaFell for the last couple of years and I am not truely sold on him to be our #1 WR. I think that Benn would be our best bet but not sure if he will be there for us in the 2nd rd. I could see Tuna going for a WR in the 3rd but who, not sure. Maybe Williams (from syracuse or Tulane) if they are still there. Dezmond Briscoe I do like and would love to see us take him, I think he could be it. Outside linebacker I think could be put on the back burner to shore up some more important needs like S, NT and WR by bringing JT back and drafting the best one if the 5th rd. to develope under him. Although if Jerry Hughes is there in rd 2, gotta take him, too good to pass up. My mind goes all over the place on this draft everyday but these are my thoughts today on how it is from the research I have done in player profiles so far. I am a huge Dolphins fan, I bleed aqua and orange and get crap all the time living in Louisiana. I am ready to see something happen this year! Geaux Phins!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Chunk Yardage Draft
1 – Spiller
2 – Cody or Thomas
3 – Graham
(trade 2011 1st round pick for Marshall).
Imagine if Miami decided to roll the dice and improve their offense with two home run threats. This would give Henne more than enough to work with. To do this, they would have to add Sharper and resign Taylor to take care of the rest of their needs.
by raysfaninminnesota on Mar 12, 2010 11:43 AM EST reply actions
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… give me Spiller….
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I am still hoping we can pull another second-round pick
And then use it on someone like Damian Williams. Otherwise, I’d like to find a receiver by the end of the third round.
I still think our first two picks are NT/FS (depending on which is the better value when we’re selecting) and OLB (either Jerry Hughes or Ricky Sapp would do it for me).
I’ve weighed the pros and cons of several first-round worthy players over the last few months (McClain, JPP, Spiller, Bryant, Graham, Gresham, etc.), but I am firmly planted on the Dan Williams bandwagon from now until April 22.
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Dan Williams is great and all...
…but as the number twelve overall? We’re not talking about Wilfork or Ngata here. Picking Spiller is just nonsensical. I don’t cosign that bandwagon at all. In fact, I refuse to acknowledge its existence. We wait until next year to pick a running back.
A lot of this depends on the receiver situation. With this class, I really just want to sign a free agent. But if the draft were to happen tomorrow, I would do the following:
- Jerry Hughes, Sergio Kindle, or Brandon Graham. Kindle is the best pure athlete, and a comparable replacement to Porter. Hughes on the other hand, would be able to make an immediate impact despite being under-sized. Graham is the same as Hughes but less talented.
- Damian Williams, Terrence Cody, Dan Williams, or Cam Thomas. I’m not sure who will be available here. Dan is athletic, but needs help changing his pad level and tends to disappear when double teamed. Cody is fat, but he lost a tremendous amount of weight for the combine. That speaks volumes to me, despite questions about his work ethic. Thomas is a wild card. He was surrounded by talent in college, but after a big Senior Bowl and combine, he’s been on the rise. Damian Williams is the flip-side. We can take a receiver here if we want.
- Third round is mere speculation at this point. If we drafted Damian Williams and Cam Thomas is still on the board, then Cam Thomas. If we drafted an NT and Damian Williams is gone, we can take Carlton Thomas from USF.
In my perfect world, it would go:
Kindle – Williams – Thomas
I think you mean Carlton Mitchell
I do like him a lot.
Regarding the rest of your post, I would debate that Williams is nowhere near a reach at No.12. In fact, I said back in December that he’d be a top 15 pick, and I think it’s because of one simple fact: athletic space-eaters are incredibly hard to find in the draft (which is why most of them fall no further than the second round). Now, I’ve spent A LOT of time watching Dan Williams, and I’ve seen enough to convince myself that he’s the right nose for our system. And when you factor in how coachable he is, it’s hard not to get excited about the possibility of Williams learning Mike Nolan’s system. Also, I think Williams looks like a fatter Tim Bowens (and I was a huuuuuuuuge Bowens fan :-)
I also want to clarify something: As much as I love to shun the C.J. Spiller bandwagon (and the ridiculous number of people on it), I just can’t come up with a valid reason why he’d be a bad pick. I want Dan Williams or Earl Thomas in the first round this year, but I’d be lying if I said I’d be bummed if we took Spiller. Nevertheless, my philosophy has always been “defense first,” and there’s no way I am straying from it.
Dan Williams and Ricky Sapp in 2010!
I do mean Carlton Mitchell
…my bad.
Earl Thomas is probably one of our better FS chances. I prefer him to Nate Allen.
And he’s a bad pick because he’s the epitome of picking talent versus picking actual needs. We don’t need another running back for the coming year. We have too many other holes to fill.
On the flipside, I wouldn’t be angry if we drafted Dan Williams at 1. I’m just unsure. You could reverse the order and snatch Williams immediately, and then take one of those OLBs in round two. Then take Carlton Mitchell.
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Ideally, I’d like to shore up NT and OLB in the first two rounds. And fortunately for us, I think some of the better OLBs in this draft class will slip into the second round.
I wouldn’t call Spiller a bad pick for us; he’d be lethal running behind our offensive line, and the fact that over half of his TDs in college were on runs of 50 yds or more is just mind-boggling. However, there’s just no way I could rationalize taking a smaller, speedy tailback when we have some major work to do on the defensive side of the ball (at two of the most important positions in the 3-4, no less). And it’s absurd to expect to get a nose tackle in later rounds when two of them are likely to be off the board by the end of the first round.
I respect a lot of the people here who are driving around Spiller motorcycles and Spiller cobra helicopters, though, so please don’t take my stance as disrespect.
Dan Williams and Ricky Sapp in 2010!
BTW, I picked up The Sporting News' Draft 2010 guide yesterday when I was at Borders
And they have Demaryius Thomas ranked as the best overall receiver in this class. I don’t know if I can take that seriously, but they did review every facet of his game, and I have to admit they made some decent points. I’ll be thrilled if we land him or Damian Williams.
Dan Williams and Ricky Sapp in 2010!
The best choice for the first round pick and why....
I have to admit that there are a lot of good arguments for whom the Dolphins should take for the first pick but let me explain mine. Last year the defense was scorched over and over again but I don’t believe that you can blame that solely on the talent that is on the team. A lot of how a team performs is from coaching and motivation. A good coach and motivator can make all the difference. Hence the departure of Pasculoni. Nolan will be able to motivate and put these players in the right spots. I am tired of watching 8 minute drives or 3 and outs constantly. Fins would score on a long drive and then the opposition would score in 3 plays. That deflates teams morale. 3 and outs don’t help either. Imagine Ricky, Ronnie and Spiller in the backfield. Shades of Csonka, Kiick and Morris the last time the Dolphins won Super Bowls. Ronnie Browns career would be extended and we would have that big play ability from running, catching or returning. Have Ronnie and CJ split the carries through 3 quarters and bring Ricky in the 4th to kill the will. Not to mention the passing game will open up more with the threat. Our receivers are young and they are getting better. Don’t write them off yet. Henne has only started a few games and he needs to go through his progressions faster and get rid of the ball quicker. Before Henne we had Pennington who I really like but he has a weak arm. You can’t make a fair evaluation of our WR’s without someone who can get them the ball on a regular basis. This year will surprise you and we will all be happy. We need a Game breaker to go reach the next level. We need that guy who can win the game with one play.Yeah, we had a good running game last year but no home run threat from that position either. We can take Spiller with the 1st and address the rest of the needs with the other picks. I also have to agree that the New Era mock draft is my favorite. Thanks and I will listen as others nit pick on my post.
by KingRexIV on Mar 13, 2010 6:01 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Well said...
rec’d
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Phin Phanatic has a great article up right now...
Not sure if it’s kosher to post a link to another blogsite but there’s an article entitled “Miami Dolphins 2010 Needs” that agrees that FS is most important need, and goes into some detail of who we could draft and other options at other positions. Recommend it highly.
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