Weekend Roundup: Talking Boldin, Henne, Porter & more
by Matty I on Feb 8, 2010 12:15 AM EST
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The 2009 football season is now officially over. Super Bowl XLIV was entertaining and fun to watch. In the end, the Saints were clearly the better team on Sunday. And that's why they will head back to New Orleans with the Vince Lombardi trophy.
Kudos to Sean Payton as well. He showed that he has some freakin' balls. Did anybody see that onside kick coming? Of course, if the Saints don't recover, people would probably be criticizing Payton. But the Saints did come up with the recovery and now Payton looks like a genius. That's just how this sport goes, though. There's a fine line between "gutsy decisions" and "stupid decisions."
While the Super Bowl was the big story of the weekend, there were some Dolphin nuggets to chew on. Let's touch on some:
Boldin for a 2nd rounder?
On Friday, Armando Salguero posted an item in his blog that touched on a number of topics. A lot of what he wrote made sense - including Salguero's declaration that the Dolphins will not go after Elvis Dumervil (which I've been saying since Adam Schefter's tweet a couple weeks ago). Armando also touches on the Anquan Boldin subject - a subject that is going to be getting more and more attention between now and March.
Salguero writes that he believes the price tag for Anquan has dropped. And I'd agree. He also writes that "the Dolphins like Boldin. He's tough. He's big. He is not a diva. Did he complain about his contract? Yes. He had a legitimate complaint. Does that make him a bad dude? Absolutely not."
Again - it's easy to see why the Dolphins would like Boldin. But here's my issue. The price tag for Boldin has gone down for a reason. Because of his physical play, Boldin gets hurt a lot. He'll be 30 in October and hasn't played a full 16 game season since 2006. Since his rookie year, Boldin has missed 18 regular season games. And ESPN's Ron Jaworski said it best, calling Boldin a "descending player."
Of course, it's now likely easier than ever to acquire Boldin from Arizona. Salguero believes that the Cards will ask for only a second round pick and probably "could be had for a third." If that's the case, should the Dolphins make a move? Is giving up a second round pick for a 30 year old injury prone receiver - who is a superstar when healthy - a good idea?
I don't have the answer to that. I'd be more than happy giving up a third rounder for Boldin. But I'm much more hesitant of surrendering the draft's 43rd pick for "Q."
Henne hopes for a receiver
Chad Henne really made the rounds late in the week last week. That's fine with me. And one of his more interesting comments came when asked if he had a wishlist for the team's first round pick:
"A big receiver. Somebody who's 6-3 and can run. I like our receivers, but we don't have a power guy. We do a lot of finesse stuff."
"I didn't say Braylon, but somebody like him would be good."
Well you can't blame Henne for saying this. Any quarterback wants new weapons to go to war with. And it makes sense that Henne would agree with many Dolphin fans out there who thinks this receiving corps is only missing one player. You get that big receiving threat and then the guys like D-Bess, B-Hart, and even Teddy Ginn become that much better.
So which draft prospects fit the description? Nicky wrote at length about the receiver position a few days ago. And from where I sit, it seems like Dez Bryant, Arrelious Benn, and Brandon LaFell present the measurables Henne is looking for.
Speaking of Henne and Miami's need for a playmaking receiver, Phil Simms told the Miami Herald this:
"[The Dolphins] are really close. I always liked Chad Henne, and I'm now more reinforced he's the guy. They need a playmaker, but it doesn't have to be the prototype receiver. Maybe a Percy Harvin type.''
Porter at it again, looking more and more like a complete ass
Does anyone still think Joey Porter was actually a leader in Miami? Because it's becoming more and more clear that he's as selfish a player as they come and is in no way a player I want around my young guys.
Appearing on NFL Network during their pre-game show, Porter had this to say about his situation in Miami:
"Probably as a Dolphin, but not the last time you’ll see me in this stadium. I still have a lot of years of football left … but strapping on that jersey, yes, this year is the last time."
"If it was a situation where the guys were better than me, then you just have to move on. But if it’s not a changing of the guard, they just have to sit and wait their turn. Nobody is that good enough behind me to be stepping on my toes."
My only question right now - what the hell is taking this team so long to release this selfish piece of garbage?
Random quote of the week
Deion Sanders said to the Miami Herald regarding the Dolphins:
"Their young corners are great, but their front seven must get better."
Well said, Deion.
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Totally disagree on Boldin
Hes been hurt on some CRUSHING hits…not injury prone…unlucky. Ronnie is more injury prone than him really.
Boldin has had to split looks…if not worse…his whole career….here he would increase his numbers i believe.
Hes a leader. He’s vocal. He broke his entire face and missed 2 games.
You wish you had him 4 years ago…but for a 2nd round pick you can have him foer the next 4 years….ill take it. He would make our other wrs look a helluva lot better too
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injury prone is injury prone....
you can’t split hairs. Whether or not he is what you want to define as “Injury prone”, doesn’t change the fact that he misses a lot of games due to “injury”….
But for a 3rd rounder….hmmmm….. I still would rather see BM for longevity, but thats very tempting.
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I don't know man.
Some of those hits would knock anyone out of the game. For Pete’s sake, he broke his face and only missed 2 games. That is a tough dude.
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Not arguing he's a tough dude, of that I agree....
but missing games is missing games. And finding ways to miss games due to injury….freak or not, is still missing games due to injury.
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I agree.
same thing with Ronnie. He may have had 2 “freak” injuries, but missing games is missing games.
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Amen about Ronnie too...
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Missing games is not missing games.
Some dudes knees just give out without getting hit…some dudes have a QB throw it up for grabs and get hit by 5 people at the same time and turn into a auntie anne pretzel.
Ronnie had a dude fall flat on his foot…..and his foot gave out….Boldin got helicopter crushed by 4 dudes….and played through it until he couldnt handle it anymore…
i take both. injuries happen when ur a toughass player who puts it on the line.
if you have to think about whether u would give up a 3rd ur crazy
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... to miss a game or to not miss a game...
… that is the question…
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I'd give up the 3rd..
But injury prone IS injury prone. I don’t care if its the same shoulder (as in CP10) or multiple injuries of different locations (such as Ronnie)….its still Injury Prone.
Whether it be bad conditioning, bad positioning, or just bad luck, its still injury prone if you get injured often, and miss lots of games. Period. How can you even argue this?
In Ronnie’s case, there are 31 other starting RB’s in the league, that take the same handoffs as he does, run the same plays as he does, and take the same vicious hits as he does….yet they (not all but most) manage to finish out the season.
Same with Boldin and the other WR’s in the league.
Injury Prone means prone to Injury, and they both fit that bill it can’t be argued. Hard ass, tough player, fighting for yards, I don’t care…..its still injury prone.
Besides, he’s 30, and aging quickly…especially since he is often injured…his body will age faster and injuries and age make you more susceptible to other injuries, that too can’t be argued….. so, is an aging often injured stud playmaker, worth a 3rd round pick? Probably….. a 2nd, probably not.
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I dont agree.
thats like saying a car accident and someone hurting their knee getting off the couch is the same thing. one is on you…one is a situation anyone would be beat the hell up in.
and he’s 30….not 40…geesh. Trust me Boldin is good for 3-5 years min.
FYI…we took Patrick Turner inthe 3rd round….you shouldnt have to think about it. A 2nd round pick would be a steal.
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I would give them Porter (who they are rumored to want) and a 3rd for
Boldin and a 5th. Two problems solved with one trade.
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in a perfect world id do that in a second
but contract bs normally messes it up…maybe someone smarter can look into if thats possible?
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I dont know if there is anything in either of their contracts that
would keep it from happening. Plus Porter listed the Cards (who are rumored to want him) as one of the three teams that he wants to play for. Likewise Boldin has continually listed Miami as his first choice. I think its something that the FO will look in to. It just makes too much sense. Im sure the matter of what picks are included would be up for discussion.
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I guess we have to agree to disagree then.
I see it as someone getting hurt getting off the couch, or running into someone, or walking in front of a car, or twisting an ankle going down stairs….. injury prone.
and 3-5 years of declining production as he ages and the injuries nag on his body.
I’d rather get someone younger whose body is more durable.
And yes, Patrick Turner was a busted pick, which is why I’d rather give up a 1 and a 3 if need be for BM.
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If Pat White played Tyler Thigpen for the starting QB position for the Miami Dolphins, who would win?
Answer - A 2010 Draft Pick
Declining?
I mean hes posted a 1000 yars every season but 1.
Not one receiver from Miami has posted a 1000 yards since Chris Chambers.
I don't think anyone here thinks
our receivers are better than Boldin…..
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If Pat White played Tyler Thigpen for the starting QB position for the Miami Dolphins, who would win?
Answer - A 2010 Draft Pick
wait getting hit by a car and getting hurt, is not the same as getting off the couch and tearing your acl AGAIN
1 is an accident and the other is having bad knees. See a doctor wouldn’t say “Because you got hit by a car and broke your femur bone and tore your ACL you must be injury prone”. No he would say “Because you tore your ACL in that car accident, your prone to injury”. I.E hurt your knee again. Now Boldin this year and the year before has been hurting his ankle and hamstrings. That is injury prone. Ronnie on the other hand got hit and crushed by players, that is bad luck. Ronnie is injury prone because the chances of him tearing his ACL again is more likely then before. Boldin’s other injury (the re-arranging the face one)was also bad luck.
So yes Boldin is injury prone because of his ankles and hamstring. Ronnie is injury prone because of his bad knees.
And yes once you get those high ankle sprains bad, like Boldin has had them. You are more likely to get them ask any military guy or athlete. Why do you think athletes tape there ankles? Because there previous injury makes it more likely to get hurt.
But getting hit by a car or in this case another football and getting hurt. Then later on getting hit by another football player and getting hurt. Does not make you injury prone.
So yes both of you are right in a way but the thoughts aren’t completely thought out. I’m not calling you out. I’m explaining the difference of being injury prone and just having bad luck.
One more example CP-10 is injury prone when it comes to his shoulder because it is weak.
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Agreed, Rzayo24
Would you give up Pat White for Boldin? In a heartbeat. Would you give up Langford for Boldin, straight up? I sure would.
Picks aren’t a sure thing.
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but he’s young and tall!!!!
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Porter
is likely still here because the front office is waiting to see if they can get something at all back in terms of value. There has to be a reason he’s still here, and hopefully we’ll soon realize why we waited and be glad we did.
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they can work out the deal first
If they find a team willing to trade for him before the deadline they could pay the $1 mil. and then trade him. It would be an expensive trade but a second rounder could be worth a mil.
What he said.
I don’t see us getting a second in return for him, but I think a million dollars is worth an additional 3/4 if we can get that.
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by Dave.Phuller on Feb 8, 2010 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
I think we could get at least a 4th or a third rounder out of him
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My thoughts ...
I agree with pretty much every point you make. Here our my thoughts on each situation …
WR … my main thing is that if we can get Dez Bryant we should grab him simply because this guy is a stud … we have young OL, QB and other WR so why not get the best young WR availble if we can that will make our team will be amazing for years to come. If Dez is gone when we pick I say trade for someone like Boldin, if the price is a third I’m all for it.
Porter … I made the terrible mistake of buying his jersey and not for one minute did it feel right, I wore it for one game (Pats game where he got 0 tackles) and it has been hiding in my closet every since. This guy is a me first type of guy and he will be gone but the trifecta isn’t going to move him for nothing (remember what they did with JT?)
I also think the CBA might be a major reason why he hasn’t been let go yet and here is my thinking .. with the new CBA there will be almost no good players in FA so I think there will be more teams interested in trading a 4th-7th rounder for even a player who should be cut. Also I think Ross will give the trifecta the green light to hold on to Porter and pay him 1mil to go through the proper channels to get what is best for his services (a good draft pick)
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by Gatorfan4life on Feb 8, 2010 5:48 PM EST up reply actions
That is a very true statement
I have looked for one but couldn’t get any where I live this year. I have a Porter errr, Ronnie Brown and Dan Marino Jersey.
Id take Q for a 3rd round pick.
I still would rather have Marshall or Bowe and would give a more for either of them then I would for Q. I would send a 1st and a player for Marshall or a 2nd and a player for Bowe over a 2nd for Boldin. HOWEVER if the team could snag Q for a 3rd Id say go for it and hope for the best. I still have man crushes on Bowe and Marshall as the 2 receivers I feel would be real legit #1 receivers for this team and who I would love to see in Phins uniforms.
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And as far as Porter goes.. I traded the asshat on Madden b4 I even played a game! lol
Porter had the luck of an easy schedule for 08. How many did he have the season b4? And last season?
I know at a per player on the field Wake destroyed Porter as far as sacks went this season. Also.. anyone else feel that maybe THATS why he is stinking up the air in South Florida? Cus he KNOWS the younger Wake is better then him in pass rushing?
Henne is now our leader. Lets see what the guy can do !
As usual the R&R Xpres is non stop to its next destination !
Driver of the Camarillo, Hartline & Bess fan club bus.. hop on and enjoy the ride!
We need this pass D to STEP THE F UP and do what they get paid to do!
Porter's a commodity, now
Let the FO (and his agent) shop him.
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Huge Boldin fan but...
…he’s not a game changer, and not the answer. Sure, he can take a demolition ball to the face and still make the pro bowl, but he fumbles too dam much, esp. in the endzone, and his hamsrings can’t handle the weight of all that shiny new titanium in his skull. Remember Arizonas amazing run to the superbowl last year? They did it w/out Boldin healthy or productive. And now he’s 30. Not sure what that means, but it ain’t good dammit! I’d rather get a guy that’s still trying to make a name for himself (like Vincent Jackson!!!), or a draft gem ( Dez Bryant will catch everything!!! Except the H1N1 virus. That could be bad for the team!).
As for Porter, thanks for being a bright spot in 2008. Now why don’t you make like a tree, and get outta here!!!
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by TheFinReaper on Feb 8, 2010 10:10 AM EST up reply actions
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by TheFinReaper on Feb 8, 2010 10:23 AM EST up reply actions
rofl that was one of my funniest lines from him.
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by Dave.Phuller on Feb 8, 2010 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
Agreed
Just left out the F@#k. Followed by the Sh!.. @$$.
by Ralph In Michigan on Feb 8, 2010 11:24 AM EST up reply actions
enough already
The Dolphins will not waste a second round draft pick on a 30 year old reciever. They had one of the worst defenses in the league last year and there is a lot of defensive talent in this years draft. With the receivers they have and their running game they scored enough points to win most games but their defense gave up enough points to lose most games. They changed the DC and they are going to draft LBs a FS and a NT they will probably draft a receiver but in what round remains to be seen. if they can work a deal for wilson and porter and maybe a 5th to7th round pick for a decent WR thats the only way I see a deal getting done. If they want to compete in the AFC East they need to build the defense. I have had enough of hearing they should waste a first or second round pick on a WR when they can’t cover a TE or stop the run. Remember the Dan Marino days they would score 35 points a game and give up 38 Defense wins championships build a defense then worry about a premier WR.
I agree we need to get better in the middle of our defense...
However, I think Chris Clemens steps up this year and beats out Gibril Wilson at FS. With that problem solved we need help at ILB x 2, and NT.I would also like to see us draft an OLB to learn behind JT for this year and take over when he retires, but we have too many other pressing needs. I think we need to think about a TE and a #1 receiver. I think if we use a lower round pick at OLB we won’t get the solution we need. We need to draft for this year and think about OLB really early next year in the draft.
by Jason Scott_90 on Feb 8, 2010 4:41 AM EST up reply actions
i agree
of course henne is gonna want a stud receiver, no doubt. But when your defense gives up almost 500 pts, it’s time to get some speed lbs.Current lbs couldnt cover jeome bettis out of the backfield. Couple lbs with the first 2 picks…then get best available ng , unless team wants to bring in wilfork, then i could see trading 3rd pick for boldin.
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by texascowpunk on Feb 8, 2010 11:47 AM EST up reply actions
i think the best way for henne to win games is to shore up the D
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by jojo phin fan on Feb 8, 2010 3:03 AM EST via mobile reply actions
I agree.. but I still want a big star #1 for him as well.
Henne is now our leader. Lets see what the guy can do !
As usual the R&R Xpres is non stop to its next destination !
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Agreed but..
Doesn’t have to be #1 WR, i would love the Phins to grab a stud TE, like Dennis Pitta fronm BYU or Hernandez from UF. It would open up the middle of the field and give Henne another target on 3rd downs and in the redzone, plus it’s one of the best match ups on the field if you have a good pass catching TE. But with all that said i think guys like that will be around in the 3rd or 4th rd,so we should go Def. the first 3 picks,2 LBer’s and a NT, that would give Mike Nolan something to work with.
even if it's costing us....
Trade Porter…and a 3rd rounder for Boldin.
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Just release porter
hes cancerous for our young team were building something great here. lets get younger and faster at lb. our front 7 needs revamping. boldin is not gonna help our D. id rather see us go after brandon marshall
by jamesthefinfan on Feb 8, 2010 6:43 PM EST up reply actions
Instead give them Porter (a proven player and starter) and a 4th or 5th rounder
I mean to me it doesnt make sense that if we trade Joey to AZ that we should give up a 3rd rounder as well. Seems like we would be getting the short end of the stick. Hell lets get AQ, their 3rd and 5th for Porter, Channing, and a 7th.
for a second rounder
do it in a heartbeat, the Quan is an incredible ball player, i will to my dieing day never forget thehorror, him, fitzy, and breaston rined on our secondary in Week 2 of 2008.
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No Q is not worth a 2nd rounder at this point
If your going to use a 2ng get someone who is still at least a couple years under 30. Again.. Marshall or Bowe would do fine. Or V. Jackson would do as well. Q is just too old to be giving away a 2nd round pick for him. ow if we could get him for a 3rd ok then.. but nothing higher.
Henne is now our leader. Lets see what the guy can do !
As usual the R&R Xpres is non stop to its next destination !
Driver of the Camarillo, Hartline & Bess fan club bus.. hop on and enjoy the ride!
We need this pass D to STEP THE F UP and do what they get paid to do!
by MainePhinFan on Feb 8, 2010 12:09 PM EST up reply actions
Who needs the Q?
I’m torn about the Q. I don’t want to give up any picks for him and would be worried about his contract demands………on the other hand………I found it interesting that Henne wants a big receiver when he has Patrick Turner on the roster already………must be becuase Turner is a bust?!?!?!? Would you rather have Turner or Boldin for last years 3rd pick?
by crossborderFISHingtrip on Feb 8, 2010 9:56 AM EST reply actions
Was wondering that too
I’ve been hoping Turner would emerge this year, but that is pretty telling if Henne publicly admits he wants an additional WR.
Boldin hands down
Henne is now our leader. Lets see what the guy can do !
As usual the R&R Xpres is non stop to its next destination !
Driver of the Camarillo, Hartline & Bess fan club bus.. hop on and enjoy the ride!
We need this pass D to STEP THE F UP and do what they get paid to do!
by MainePhinFan on Feb 8, 2010 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
Trade?
Porter, Crowder, and Thigpen for Boldin and Zona’s 2nd rounder. Re-sign CP10 if he can still make the throws (he can’t be much worse than White either way) and grab Dansby no matte the cost. Gives em a former starter as Leinart’s backup, a replacement (a crappy one) for Dansby since they won’t be keeping him, and helps them out at OLB. Takes Boldin off their hands and we gain a pick instead of losing one. If they want more to make it happen, send them Gerbil and tell them we’ll pick up his salary for this year (no cap hit so what the hell?). If they don’t need Gerbil to make the deal (they might lose Rolle so it could be appealing to them if he’s playing for free this year) then cut his sorry behind and save some money up for Dansby and Boldin.
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C'mon
what’s next, a couple of guys off the practice squad? The Phins would be better off with Dez than AB, I just don’t know if Tuna will pull the trigger.
Anyone see that suck fest on the POD board? Not that I blame the guy. What questions are you going to ask Staff? The Axe question took the longest time to answer.
I may have to re-think my evaluation of Staff as he was smart enough to give Dez love.
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i agree
We definitely need to shore up this defense. The offense proved more than capable of scoring points. However, and especially during the last 3 games of this season. This D was awful!!!!
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Manning shows that he is the (90s) Atlanta Braves of the NFL. Super regular season, yearly post season trips, and only one ring – against a sub-par team (ha ha Grossman) at that.
Boldin for a 3? yes. A 2? er, thanks but no thanks.
Front 7 must improve? Well every secondary looks better with some pass rusher in front of them.
Porter? Uggh, next question :-)
What about Porter and a late pick for Boldin? Cards are in the market for a pass rusher
and we need Boldin.
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by texascowpunk on Feb 8, 2010 11:33 AM EST up reply actions
I would even bet that the FO would be willing to eat the million bonus due Porter to
get Boldin in here so cheap.
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by texascowpunk on Feb 8, 2010 11:34 AM EST up reply actions
Hmmm...
Would I want to give a 3rd for Q? Absolutely.
Do I want Porter gone? Absolutely.
Would I give Porter and a later pick for Q? ABSOLUTELY
If we could somehow make that transaction, I’d be thrilled. Despite Q’s injury tendencies, I think we can ride him out long enough to let our other WR’s develop and hopefully have a true #1 (outside of Anquan) in a couple years.
Its a no brainier from where I stand.
If you get him for Porter then you kill two birds with one stone. Porter listed 3 teams he would like to play for with the Cards being one. Boldin would love to come back and play for Miami. I agree that Boldin has been hurt a bit too much but hes a gamer and when healthy a true number one. He not only helps Henne with his development but can teach all of our young receivers how to prepare and how to be a professional receiver. Its the kind of move that could pay off for years after Boldin has moved on or retired.
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by texascowpunk on Feb 8, 2010 12:08 PM EST up reply actions
Amen!
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Last year's Second Round Pick was a waste...
We could have a WR by now.
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Or at least a player that could play.
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by texascowpunk on Feb 8, 2010 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
yes I agree. I didnt like the pat White pick the second it was announced.
I argued about it on another site and got yelled at because I hated the pick. We now have wasted 2 top 2 round picks on worthless small guys who were suposed to overcome their short commings (pun intended) and be worth something.
We wasted a 1st on Ginn who is a bust
we wasted a 2nd on White who I believe will not ammount to a quality QB at the NFL level.
I wonder who they really was going to pick in the 2nd b4 they got the bright idea to snatch White at the last second? I mean.. it coudnt have been planned could it?
Henne is now our leader. Lets see what the guy can do !
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We need this pass D to STEP THE F UP and do what they get paid to do!
by MainePhinFan on Feb 8, 2010 12:16 PM EST up reply actions
I'd have to agree with most of you here. Work from the inside out. Get your LB whoever is the best available in or out.
I believe we can find a (WR) diamond in the rough later in the draft. Don’t forget we still have a solid receiver in Hartline who I think will just get better next year. I like the thought of getting a #1 WR but it’s not worth giving up draft picks if we cant get Jaackson or Marshall. I don’t believe any other FA will be leaving there teams. Remember we were scoring enough points to win but the Defense couldn’t hold it together for 4 quarters. Let’s pray for a diamond in the draft and maybe Turner will bust out this year. Who Knows???? Either way the desicion lies with the TRI.
Get a #1WR
trade the moron porter and get boldin or v jackson or BM. we need a wr that puts fear into the teams we play. our D was not as bad last year as the year before sure we need some holes filled but our biggest is a WR. To the Bowe fans hmm there is a reason he is not #1 in KC any more because the guy is classless and a moron not to mention the guy drops more balls then ginn i hate bowe and if miami waisted a trade for him i will be heated the guy is a bum and always will be.
by Shaun B on Feb 8, 2010 12:45 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Our defense was actually better two years ago.
Especially in the 2nd half of the season.
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but
i bet he would love boldin too, and for a third round pick? id say that price is right. Id still like to see if we could try and get porter for him and a 5th.
Bouldin...
is a stud, and we should go after him at the right price. Given Parcell’s history, however, of not taking wides early in the draft, I doubt we will get any of the big rookie prospects. If we had to pay more than a third round pick, I’d rather see us burn a first or second round pick on Dez or Damien. Also depends on who’s available in the first round. If Rolando “Die Hard” McClain is available, we’re taking him in the first round.
die hard!!!
would be a great fit for us. think about his pedigree coming out of alabama in the mold of ryans and derrik thomas. i could even see us going after dansby out of arizona hes not gonna get thwe franchise tag again. hell be available
by jamesthefinfan on Feb 8, 2010 6:55 PM EST up reply actions
I'd offer a 4th rounder this year and a 5th rounder next year for Anquan Boldin (Jason Ferguson-like offer)
He’s a short term fix to give Henne a target for the short term and buy time for the Fins to draft a raw high ceiling prospect who needs time to develop (like a Miles Austin) or Julius Pruitt or Freddie Barnes 6-0 210 Bowling Green?
Abandoned the Draft Sean Smith at #25 Bandwagon to Join the Draft Sean Smith at #61 Bandwagon and get Vontae Davis and Chris Clemons. Trio > me.
Boldin and our reciever situation.
I agree on going after Anquan Boldin, but we also need to upgrade our front seven just as was said by D. Sanders. We have a great, decently young team put together that should be good for years to come. It’s time to spend some money and go after a couple big free agents on D, and draft a future franchise type reciever this year. I was skeptical last year with our draft choices(especially Turner), and I believe White was a mistake as well. I hope this year will be different and we can come out of the draft with more than two immediate impact players. Offer the Cards a third rounder and be done with it. Boldin would love to come to Miami and he would be a perfect fit to help guide a top prospect rookie reciever along. He has shown he is a team player, so why not take the chance and who knows, he might just stay healthy all year. We would def. make a run at the playoffs. Especially now that our division is making strides and improving(Jets). It’s time to stop being the second fiddle in the division. GO DOLPHINS!!!!
good for henne.
He knows better than anybody what a big time reciever will do for this team, and for his success.
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Boldin
not for a second, too risky
but for a third? for sure
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B. Marshall
what about this freak, i like him over vincent. Brandon molds his game after moss and t.o. why not put him in their division so he can show off! wearing teal and orange. yeah baby i like it !!!
by jamesthefinfan on Feb 8, 2010 6:52 PM EST up reply actions
You might be pretty new here
But if you look back a page or two in the Fan Posts, you can find about 100 posts about the Brandon Marshall debates
(sorry if you’re not new, I don’t mean to offend you)
im a newb
youre right im brand new to phinsider just today but ive been a fin for 33 years and its all good man no offense here
by jamesthefinfan on Feb 8, 2010 7:07 PM EST up reply actions
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the pigeons have it
they may have gotten lost lol
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by Little Nicky 21 on Feb 8, 2010 7:32 PM EST up reply actions
We had this discussion before.
So mine is in a pile over the fence next to the pile of dead pigeon carcasses? Damn you Nicky! I WANT MY BASKET!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Mine was eaten before it got to me.
But it was still wrapped?!
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Hmmm. So its all food? I was hoping for some nice team swag!
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some of them were just empty baskets
money is tight hahaha
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by Little Nicky 21 on Feb 8, 2010 7:41 PM EST up reply actions
Well then you owe me!!!!!
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clever pigeons lol
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by Little Nicky 21 on Feb 8, 2010 7:40 PM EST up reply actions
that's what I'm sayin'!
funny. bird poop & feathers were in mine.
hmmm….
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You've come to the right place
That is, assuming you love the Fins til you die and you get more enjoyment out of belittling the Jests than you do anything else.
Wide receivers
What about brandon marshall isnt he available? id rather use my first pick on spiller or mcclain. but i agree a number one that can actually catch a ball is a must!!!!
Henne/Long...........hope we have them forever!!!!!
what a blessing for a die hard fin fan to finally have a beast at left tackle and a stud at qb.
I was truly impressed with chad all year i cant wait to watch him mature in the next couple of years. if parcells gets this guy some real weapons and nolan steps up and gets our defense in the mood to bust a few heads, the nfl better get used to us being on top!!!!
Boldin for a 3rd or for Porter straight up I would not mind,but Boldin has one year left so if we get him then we have to cut him a new deal and who knows how much he is looking for would rather dish the money Wilfork or Dansby’s way
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by Foy on Feb 8, 2010 6:53 PM EST via mobile reply actions
lovin dansby
youre so right on about the dansby side but id rather shy away from boldin and go after marshall
by jamesthefinfan on Feb 8, 2010 6:56 PM EST up reply actions
Boldin wont be the same guy in Miami
In Arizona they have 2 stud WRs in Boldin and Fitzgerald if Miami works a deal for Boldin defenses will double cover him constantly and his numbers will drop significantly because they don’t have a Fitzgerald on the other side I really don’t think I would waste a third round pick on him if he was 25 maybe but at his age and with the defenses keying on him on every passing down I think he would prove to be a disappointment not due to a lack of skill on his part but just due to the circumstances. This year the focus must be on defense build a top five or even a top ten defense and suddenly the offense gets better due to better field position and turnovers something that worked against the Dolphins last year.
I am not sure about why Turner never saw the field last season and was only active for two games but sporrano puts a lot of emphasis on being able to play special teams if Turner didn’t see anyt playing time because he couldn’t help on special teams then that says something about his toughness as a receiver even though Ginn curls up in an assball whenever a hit is coming at least he returns kicks
ginn
ginn is a joke at wide out he dropped the game winner against the colts and flubbed the catch that sharper retuned to the house that started the saints comeback, make those two catches and we win those games
by jamesthefinfan on Feb 8, 2010 7:06 PM EST up reply actions
yup
all his fault that we couldn’t stop Peyton from scoring in less than 2 minutes every time. Not to mention there’s probably only 5-10 guys that actually MAKE that catch in the entire league, and none of them are on our team. All Ted’s fault though.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Feb 8, 2010 7:12 PM EST up reply actions
we had a shot
its the nfl you gotta make that catch. dont you expect our receivers to make that catch
by jamesthefinfan on Feb 8, 2010 7:14 PM EST up reply actions
honestly, no.
I don’t expect too many people to make that catch, it was alot tougher than you think. And Ted Ginn is not one of the guys you expect to come down with that. When has he shown the ability to win a jump ball? That’s not what he does. None of our WR’s do. And yes, we had a shot, but I could point to 100 different moments in that game where if somebody makes a play, we win. That wasn’t the only play that contributed to the loss. We shouldn’t have been in position to rely on Ted Ginn making a great catch at the end of the game. It never should’ve been that close the way our offense dominated them all game long.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Feb 8, 2010 7:17 PM EST up reply actions
Ayodele???
his defense on clark was the most upsetting part of that game!!!!
by jamesthefinfan on Feb 8, 2010 7:23 PM EST up reply actions
him
Gibril being unable to tackle, our defense as a whole allowing Manning to march up and down the field, kicking FG’s instead of scoring TD’s, it was a game we had no business losing with 45+ minutes TOP
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by Little Nicky 21 on Feb 8, 2010 7:26 PM EST up reply actions
all of the linebackers
None of the Dolphins starting LBs can cover a tightend or a RB they need help at LB more than anything else Where is Lawrence Taylor when you need him
entire front seven......
hopefully mike nolan will make some adjustments and parcells makes some moves but im all about defense and ours will be great if we upgrade at linebacker cause our corners are gonna be nasty baby
by jamesthefinfan on Feb 8, 2010 7:29 PM EST up reply actions
This. I am sure after that game the whole league knew we could not cover
a TE to save our lives.
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I agree i am not a ginn fan
I don’t like Ginn as a wr either but he had his best season with pennington throwing soft passes that my grandmother could catch once he had Henne throwing rockets his way he couldn’t hang on to them maybe if given time he could get used to Henne’s harder throws but we have already wasted three seasons on him and it’s time to move on add Ginn in to the mix in a trade for Boldin or whatever receiver they want to go after Ginn, porter, Crowder and, Wilson for a quality receiver and keep our draftpicks
hes got hands just no heart
ginn is missing a vital part of being a wide out he doesnt “want” to catch the ball
by jamesthefinfan on Feb 8, 2010 7:17 PM EST up reply actions
I think, even though Boldin may not be AS effective here as he was in Arizona
the rest of the WR’s on the roster will be more effective because of his presence. Similar to the way Garcon and Collie were extremely productive in the playoffs because of all the attention Reggie Wayne received from the defense. Boldin’s numbers may decrease, but his impact will be felt more here than in AZ IMO.
And we already have Asshands, now we have Assball? We need all our WR’s to have “ass” related nicknames lol. Davone “Asses and Elbows” Bess.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Feb 8, 2010 7:08 PM EST up reply actions
Spiller
would love to fuel up that chopper for ya!!! im lovin c.j. spiller
by jamesthefinfan on Feb 8, 2010 7:11 PM EST up reply actions
jump aboard my friend!
The SpillWagon Fleet is currently in a holding pattern, waiting for draft weekend. Do you want a seat in one of the choppers or on the luxury Skybus jet?
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by Little Nicky 21 on Feb 8, 2010 7:14 PM EST up reply actions
Are we filling up yet?
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certainly feels that way
we gotta have at least 2 full choppers and about 1/4 to 1/3 of the plane. A lot of the people on the bandwagon may not comment much lol
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by Little Nicky 21 on Feb 8, 2010 7:34 PM EST up reply actions
They all need to add it to their sig line so we can get a head count.
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We should do a "Picking Sides" post
where everyone reveals their draft bandwagon allegiance and we can count em up. The McClain wagon probably still has the most, but the SpillWagon crew is the most vocal, and we got a bunch of the heavy hitters, including 2 (could be 3 soon) of the Mt. Phinsiders hahaha
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by Little Nicky 21 on Feb 8, 2010 7:42 PM EST up reply actions
Right! Sounds like a good idea. What day can I expect to see that post Nicky?
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whenever you decide to post it hahahaha
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by Little Nicky 21 on Feb 8, 2010 10:13 PM EST up reply actions
What a cop out!
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Yes, you are right they wil just double team him, but what do you think that will do fo r the other WR. Like Bess who was still making catches while being double team late in the season.
His numbers dropped, but he was still able to make some good catches. If they’re forced to double up on Boldin that leaves at least one if not two WR one on one and with another year on his belt Henne will start to find these guys quicker and quicker as the year progresses. I believe if we get Q the rest of our WR will benefit tremensly and we’ll see what we have and whether or Ginn, Bess, Hartline Camirillo and hopefully Turner can step up and take a bigger role. I say yes and it’ll be enough to win and go deep for a couple years til we get the Defense squared away and finally get that young #1 WR.
by D0lphins4Life on Feb 8, 2010 8:30 PM EST up reply actions
Beer on the chopper, scotch on the jet
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tough decisions
if its round trip ill leave on the chopper and return on the jet
by jamesthefinfan on Feb 8, 2010 7:18 PM EST up reply actions
hoping it's round trip plus a celebratory parade lol
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by Little Nicky 21 on Feb 8, 2010 7:19 PM EST up reply actions
draft forecast????
where do you see us going in the drafts first three rounds……any other hopes bvesides spiller
by jamesthefinfan on Feb 8, 2010 7:20 PM EST up reply actions
Sam Adam, Bud (for the working class), Yuengling.
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Well then, Friend
Not bad, not bad atall. I’m a Balvenie man myself.
But we can be row mates.
(I don’t fly in choppers, they’re not meant too)
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I'm torn right now
it depends on FA, because if we get Dansby we don’t need an ILB, but if not, I want a guy like Daryl Washington in round 2. Dream scenario is trading Ronnie for another 2, then grabbing Spiller, LaFell, and then the next 2 best defensive players on the board, preferably 2 of either OLB, ILB, NT, or FS. I’d like to see Brandon Graham but I don’t know if he drops to us. I also would love to get Darryl Sharpton in the 4th round, because I think he can be a good complementary LB alongside Crowder.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Feb 8, 2010 7:30 PM EST up reply actions
he's my favorite WR in the draft right now
good combination of size and speed, plus he’s a solid route runner and has pretty reliable hands
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by Little Nicky 21 on Feb 8, 2010 7:33 PM EST up reply actions
I think he's overrated.
The biggest knock on him is effort and drive, and guys that come in with those concerns usually don’t make it (see Gholston, Vernon). He reminds me of Michael Johnson from GT that came out last year I believe.. talented enough to be a top 5 overall pick, but never showed every down effort and it’s hurt him.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Feb 8, 2010 7:36 PM EST up reply actions
whatever you want lol
either or, we’re fully stocked haha
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by Little Nicky 21 on Feb 8, 2010 7:17 PM EST up reply actions
The best beer is on my chopper.
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disagree
FLAGGED lol
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by Little Nicky 21 on Feb 8, 2010 7:33 PM EST up reply actions
Note:If you like shit beer (aka whatever they drink on the show Jersey Shore) then
jump aboard Nicky’s Chopper. Otherwise let me know as I still have a few seats left.
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unnecessary shot hahahaha
I got heine’s, stelly’s, and strongbow (best beer I’ve ever had, tastes just like apple juice, can’t tell that’s alcoholic, but gets you BOMBED).
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by Little Nicky 21 on Feb 8, 2010 7:43 PM EST up reply actions
Sounds more like a wine cooler than a beer. I hate fruit flavored beers.
Nicky, are you sure you are not a chick?
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not fruit flavored beer lol
just doesn’t taste like beer. But it’s twice the alcohol of normal beer. It’s amazing
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by Little Nicky 21 on Feb 8, 2010 10:14 PM EST up reply actions
You can get Ales with as much as 12% alcohol and they dont suck like fruit beers.
"I hope you know a lot more than you believe in"-Gram Parsons
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
Currently one of three pilots for the new and improved SpillWagon fleet of Chinook’s.
Patrick Turner????
what happened with patrick is a good question. i was looking forward to seeing him on the field.
I think we'll see him this year
he was a project WR, and I guess they felt he wasn’t ready last year. I think another offseason of work will be enough to at least activate him next season (I hope)
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by Little Nicky 21 on Feb 8, 2010 7:34 PM EST up reply actions
Someone else said in another post
About how it may have had something to do with special teams. We all know how much our coaching emphasizes special teams play, and if you look at it, all of our receivers play some role on special teams. Maybe Turner was as good or better than some of our activated receivers, but he’s not good enough on ST to merit a spot on the activated list.
guess you gotta get tougher then if youre turner
by jamesthefinfan on Feb 8, 2010 7:37 PM EST up reply actions
that's possible
I would think if he was better than our other WR’s, he’d be activated and put in on offense, considering that was really the weakest spot of the offense, but that could be the reason, because all our WR’s did play a role on ST all year long.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Feb 8, 2010 7:38 PM EST up reply actions
hartline
of all our receivers he made me cheer the most this year followed closely by bess. just imagine those two with a true number 1
by jamesthefinfan on Feb 8, 2010 7:40 PM EST up reply actions
I agree
The slant pattern that broke for a 60-something yard gain against the Saints and then the bomb against the Titans where he ripped it from the defender come to mind.
yeah he's gonna be good
We have a complete WR corps that’s just missing a go-to guy. We got the deep threat, a dangerous slot WR, and 2 savvy possession players. And the big jump ball guy sitting on the bench. Get a beast, and suddenly we look much better on offense
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by Little Nicky 21 on Feb 8, 2010 7:44 PM EST up reply actions
just got wood!!!
thinking about our potential on offense
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by jamesthefinfan on Feb 8, 2010 7:47 PM EST up reply actions
TMI
"I hope you know a lot more than you believe in"-Gram Parsons
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
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Oh oh. He said wood. Beaver will be here any moment....
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Hartline is our best WR
Hartline had a great year for a rookie and he didn’t play much the first half of the season I am looking forward to his second year if no changes are made in the WR corp. he should be a starter next year even if they pick up a #1 Wr I would start heartline opposit him with bess in the slot
I actually how we don't have true "starters"
I mean, obviously I want a guy that never comes off the field, but opposite him, I think we can create certain mismatches by using Bess, Hartline, Cam, Ginn in different situations or in different formations (like putting Ginn in the slot in a twins set and forcing them to either switch the CB to the other side, giving away man coverage, or play him with a LB/S and giving Ted the advantage..) There’s a lot you can do with a varied group of personnel like we have, especially if you have a guy that always draws the coverage away from the specialized weapons.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Feb 8, 2010 7:50 PM EST up reply actions
so true
throw spiller in the mix to keep em honest and we are on our way my friend
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by jamesthefinfan on Feb 8, 2010 7:52 PM EST up reply actions
comments on AB
yeah for a couple of games a year. id rather go younger and faster im still infatuated with b marshall
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by jamesthefinfan on Feb 8, 2010 7:55 PM EST up reply actions
yup, I think so
he can go over the middle, go deep, and he’s a beast after the catch. He commands the top corner if he’s on 90% of the teams in the league. Just so happens he plays with one of the best in Larry Fitzgerald, and Warner spread the ball around to everyone. There’s a reason Steve Breaston was open constantly, because teams had to concentrate on Fitz and Q. He’ll be exactly what we need on offense.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Feb 8, 2010 8:17 PM EST up reply actions
AB is a True #1
People should understand he has not had a season ending injury. What player do you know that does not miss a game here and there. Something people are not talking about is the fact that the Cards seemed to be maybe holding him out of games. They have S. Breston and seemed to me that they maybe wanted to get him more reps. Does this sound like the Porter situation. Like I’ve said before. Porter/Dansby/Rolle for Boldin/Chowder/Wilson and throw in White.
that's not a trade scenario is it?
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by Little Nicky 21 on Feb 8, 2010 8:28 PM EST up reply actions
Why not.
Look at for second. Swap out our DMW’s(dead men walking) for their’s. I explained it in other threads.
i thought his upside was tremendous hope youre right and we see him soon
by jamesthefinfan on Feb 8, 2010 7:36 PM EST up reply actions
hartline
he has great hands and ball skills. precisiopn routes and good speed. i love him
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just think 3 years ago we were all sick watching our boys. now we actually have a real chance to be contenders year in and year out. just wanted to send a shout out to my boy bill and to tony for giving me hope again
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Answer the question
Can anybody tell me whats wrong with this scenario……lets start in free agency. We all know we need lb and a wr. we go after dumerville and marshall out of denver. dumerville replaces porter and marshall comes to south beach to prove his worth. with our first pick we go spiller. hopefully we have two second round picks we use those on another lb and what about that rhodes scholar that skipped last years draft to get an education…..he sounds like a great replacement for wilson
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Whats wrong with it is that Denver will want a first at least for Marshall or they will tender him and
receive a first and a third. This would preclude you from drafting Spiller. Given the choice I would rather have Spiller.
"I hope you know a lot more than you believe in"-Gram Parsons
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I'm hearing Denver may have to settle for a 2nd for BM.
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Obviously its all rumors....
but Denver isn’t in a good negotiating spot, as they’ve made it pretty well clear and known they are trading him…
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If Pat White played Tyler Thigpen for the starting QB position for the Miami Dolphins, who would win?
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And yet there are rumors in the past week that they may be looking at keeping him
and hes also said that he would like to now stay. I guess none of us will know for sure till March.
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by texascowpunk on Feb 9, 2010 11:25 AM EST up reply actions
My guess is that is more about
driving up his trade value…. than about him really staying.
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If Pat White played Tyler Thigpen for the starting QB position for the Miami Dolphins, who would win?
Answer - A 2010 Draft Pick
Yeah I guess thats possible on the teams part but he seems like he
now wants to stay and get with the program there. Maybe all the bad press finally got to him and he realized that acting like a punk is only going to cost him in the long run. I wonder if some of these guys with bad reps ever realize how much money they cost themselves not only in contract money but endorsements and even job offers when their careers are over.
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by texascowpunk on Feb 9, 2010 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
Yeah, what TCP said
Not to mention Brandon has said recently that he plans on staying in Denver (though no one knows how true that is.) So Marshall would almost definitely cost us a 1st and a 3rd, and Dumerville would likely cost us the same or close to it. Also, people tend to overlook the fact that Dumerville gets demolished in the running game. People see “NFL Sack Leader” and assume he’s among the elite, but to be honest, I’ll take JT or Wake over Dumerville.
But I’m all for drafting Myron Rolle (the Rhodes Scholar.) Safety is such a demanding position as far as intellect goes, and from what I’ve seen of Rolle he has the potential to be the real deal. Obviously potential doesn’t equal success, but that’s a different argument.
Yea Dont get Boldin.
I say if there is nobody to get in the free agency thats young and on the rise or already good then Miami should get a legit 1st round stud WR in the draft . They really cant mess this up. They will be able to get the best one in this draft class.
Ya but just because your picked early in the draft does not mean you will be a studd #1 receiver.
I dont like the odds on that one. I feel the team is only 2 years tops from being a serious threat. If you try to draft a receiver and get him experiance and it does not pan out (ted ginn) then your set back another season or more… I still would rather get a SOLID 26 -27 year old Like Bowe or Jackson or Marshall then risk taking a receiver in hopes he will work out. Maybe I am still feeling burned by that #9 pick 3 seasons ago!
Henne is now our leader. Lets see what the guy can do !
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Her’s my dream scenario. Negotiate with the Cardinals and obtain Bolden for a 3rd. Draft CJ Spiller with our one and we’ve super-charged our offense right away. It’s now 50% better than it was before. Spiller is the most dynamic offensive player coming out in the draft and if Bolden can have a healthy year he’s a 90-100 catch guy. He could give us a good 2-3 years. We could get Spiller 15-20 touches a game between returns, rushes and catches. He’d be a great compliment to Ricky and Ronnie and after Ricky retires he could take the load off of Ronnie. We could still get a quality ILB and NT in rounds 2 and 4. It’s a deep draft. I’m also expecting us to take a run at probably one quality free agent. We could actually fill our needs rather quickly and I believe be a playoff contender next season.
by Biggest Dolphin Fan on Feb 9, 2010 4:25 AM EST reply actions
Fox News picked us sixth for the next Saints like team next year! Should of said first!
6. Dolphins
We interrupt this Jets vs. Patriots debate to mention the Miami Dolphins. Miami is so prepared and well-coached under Tony Sparano.
And the team got better with the offseason coup in plucking the outstanding Mike Nolan to run the defense, replacing former Syracuse University failure Paul Pasqualoni, who was rightly canned after the season. Nolan was nothing short of brilliant in Denver, and Josh McDaniels will regret the day he let Nolan walk. All Nolan did was turn around a pathetic defense from 2008 under different leadership. Nolan’s appointment could be the equivalent of the Saints’ hiring Gregg Williams.
Miami’s run game is one of the best in pro football. Chad Henne has all the tools.
Jeff Ireland needs to beef up the receiver position.
I won’t be surprised to see Miami win 10 games next season and run its way deep into the playoffs.
Boldin for a 2nd rounder?
Why all of a sudden are players worth less? The CBA is up because NFLPA want more, The agents want more, Players them selves want more, so why would a team take less? Look at Roy Williams trade last year. Am i confused or does the cost of living go “UP”? Williams was traded for effectively a 1 and 5 for a 3 and a player. So lets say a 1. Jeremy Shockey before that went for basically a 2. With Boldin CLEARLY better than both, head over heals better than Williams and a good step above Shockey (injuries included) why will the Cards get less? I’d say in this possible uncapped year, KEEP HIM! If you can’t get a 1 & 5, keep him, play him and then let him ride into the sunset next year. Who you draft will not be better than Q.
The CBA is up because the owners want to pay less not the other way around.
The union was actually happy with the old CBA and given an opportunity would have been happy to extend it. The owners thing that 60% of the profits to the players is too much and they want to install a preset salary system for rookies.
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by texascowpunk on Feb 10, 2010 5:01 AM EST up reply actions
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