It's time...time for the Dolphins to get that number one receiver

It’s needed to tap Henne’s full potential.

I’m opposed to moving the 1st and 3rd. I think the 12th pick has enough value to flip for Jackson, similar to how the Chiefs acquired Cassel.

Personally I think they’ll hit on youth sooner or later so if a 3rd, Cam and someone else will get it done for Boldin then I’m in.

Having a guy like Boldin for the next few years to help develop Henne is priceless. It’s affordable, buys us time to find a young #1 and guarantees the presence that target should have. Is he 30 with injury concerns? Sure but you get what you pay for and if we can flip some vets with a 3rd I think we’re getting the better end of the deal.

I too would take Bryant over McClain but I’d rather go in another direction. Which direction I’m not sure but trading a 3rd+ and signing Dansby should render those two unneeded.

Please Dansby, please come to Miami.

if the Dolphins are willing to spend the #12 pick on Bryant, why not just trade for a receiver who is already proven?

I agree with you on this statement 100%. I do however think Marshall is a proven (elite on the field) receiver. Yes he has issues, however what elite receivers dont? I believe you hear more about certain ones then you do others. Ya know, no one would know how much of a prima dona marshall is if the team didnt let stuff like that “slip” out to the press n such. That being said, do I think he is worth a 1st? Eh.. not so sure, but I know he is worth more then Austin (who has only had 1 real good season) Jackson on the other hand would be sweet as well. And Ill throw my usual in there that no one else likes.. I believe D Bowe would be worth trying to steal for the right price.

I think if we have a true great #1 and fill in the areas on the D that need some filling this team would be in real good shape.

I dont think the team will use up draft picks to trade for a reciever

but sqrsam, Marshall was freakin calling Peezy Popcorn Muscles and bragging and putting him down AFTER the Phins beat them and Peezy looked good. He’s a whiney little b*t$h, I don’t want him wearing teal.

I missed David Martin this year. He didn’t make a ton of plays but he was a dude that would go up over the middle and make that dangerous catch and get the yards.

I was actually feeling Hartline by the end of the year too. I see what you mean about how a great tight end could mix it up a lot and help get our current flanker guys open.

I really like the sounds of a #1 WR but I’m not sure if this is how they will address it. It sounds simple on the outside but I’m sure there is much more that goes into it when the trifeca looks at the options such as improving the defense over spending or trading draft picks on WR.

The one thing is the talent has gotten better since the Trifecta has taken over with Hartline and Bess plus we don’t even know what Turner could do yet. If Parcells had his way in Dallas TO never would have been there and Glenn wouldn’t have been drafted in the first round either. I feel they will continue the process of making the talent better but I don’t feel we will see such a big move, maybe in FA but not during the draft.

2 seasons after 1-15 team everyone wants to go all in for 1 player I know you are nor that dillussional. Next year is a very good year for WRs and 1 pl;ayer isnt sending us anywhere expecially over the top. Get real and understand it isnt going to happen nor is it the smart thing to happen

I saw a report on NFL.com that Randy Moss will most likely not be returning to NE next year…. He is a poison, much like Brandon Marshall. We can get him without picks and he is not as much of a poison to a team as T.O. I think if we get him we would want to get Dez Bryant. I think if we can get him on board with coaching the young receivers(Hartline, Bess, Bryant, Turner, and even Ginn) it would be a really good fit….at least for a year or so… I also read about how smart he is as a receiver, he knows what everyone on the field is going to do, and knows all the tricks. What do you guys think?

i just dont believe we will be able to get a #1 WR from the draft, #1 WR’s are made not drafted,

that needs to be addressed, we must crawl before we can walk.

Lets get serious. the guy has caught 100 balls 3 years in a row so obviously hes not missing a bunch of time because of his “off field issues.” Stop trying to build a church and start trying to win a Super Bowl. Grow a pair.

We know what kind of drive Quake has and I think the Tri will push and teach him to be an everydown LB. Turner hopefully has been working in the offseason to get stronger and quicker to get off the line and onto the field. Hartline I think can be a great WR with time. Look at how ell he did last year in his first year.

Dansby + Yes
Boldin + Yes
NT + Yes (just not sure who right now)
Mcclain + ?
Bryant + ?

Wow – finally you people (meaning almost everyone on this site) are beginning to come around… DEFENSE does NOT win championships anymore. It’s OFFENSE people …offense !!!!
anyone remember when R. williams led the league in rushing – we had a great defense – (JT had about 18 sacks) and we STILL MISSED THE PLAYOFFS ??? That was almost a DECADE AGO and Miami is still searching for a big play WR…. a great running game is not enough on offense, nor is a great defense – if you want a title.
Hell ya, we need a true #1 WR. Problem is we now need a #1 MLB & OLB as well…. the defense is in such bad shape, that we probably have to try and fix it first, just because its a HUGE mess…. BUT LB’s are much easier to find than a #1 WR these days.
DRAFT – this draft is pretty deep at LB (OLB and MLB) so if DEZ BRYANT is available at #12 you could draft him, and look to the Defense with the later picks…(2 & 3) no matter what we do – this team is 2 more drafts away most likely… depressing.
But you simply MUST take either McClain or Bryant IF AVAILABLE at #12…. If both are gone I would TRADE DOWN and load up on DEFENSE and WR. Also the Fins should really try and bring in BOLDIN (NO HIGHER THAN A 3RD) and maybe another player if needed. I would make the BRANDON MARSHALL trade – but not at the cost of a #1 pick.
If you are going to do that — Just draft DEZ B. !
REALLY – I would have NO PROBLEM drafting DEZ over McClain, as long as we address the LB position (Dansby in FA) and second round….
Turner stinks – he is NOT going to be any good….Hartline has potential, but hasnt shown enough to be considered a #1 WR.
 

i agree, it’s time we need a big talented physical WR, i would like to see us get an upgrade at TE too though, we cant dink and dunk for 3-5 yds all game, it takes almost a near perfect drive in order for us to score and the teams that played us just needed one flick of the wrist to score, it is def. time, trade 2nd for marshall, dumervil wants to come here because he credits nolan for his recent success, moving him to OLB and he wants to follow him here to his hometown, then try to get hampton if not then we go dan williams, and if we get hampton and dumervil in FA, and trade a 2nd for marshall we can be flexible with that 12th pick.

Hence, there’s potential that he’s gonna “get it.” From a GM standpoint, I think Parcell’s > Shanahan and would hope that Parcell’s very much tries a “man to man stereoscopic” on young Mr. Marshall. And if he felt he could steer him into maturity -bring him here.

We have been a vocal minority here, but there is always room for more!

Like you stated above, the league is dominated by passing. It is dominated by teams that can get big chucks of yards. A true #1 WR helps solve those problems.

I can’t find the stat, but how many pass interference penalties did Phins WR’s draw on the defense last year? How many illegal contacts? I don’t recall that many, yet the Phins Defense was committing those penalties every game. Those are so important to extending drives. And the fact that the Phins didn’t draw that many of those penalties again points to not having adequate WR’s in today’s NFL.

Get a true #1 WR! Get a Reggie Bush, Chris Johnson type of dual threat RB! Whether through Trade, FA, or the Draft, get those type of players. Because if you don’t have those type of players in today’s NFL, you don’t win Championships!

we have only needed a #1 receiver since Irving Fryar.

New England decides to use a couple of their 2nd round picks to acquire Marshall (planning ahead for when Moss is gone in a year or two maybe)

So, this season we face a team, with Moss, and Marshall on the outside, and Welker in the Slot, and Tom Brady throwing the ball….

yippee…

I’d have nightmares….

When I was a kid, we could score on anybody, but would lose 42-38 because we couldn’t run or play defense. Until the defense is all-world again, we have to slow the game down. I want a receiver that gives big play threat, but one that does not feel that he needs the ball all of the time. I think a true #1 receiver will always want the ball and change the identity of the offense. Do you take the ball from Ronnie to please a #1 receiver? I’d like to get Chris Chambers back. He showed big play ability in KC but will not cry if he does not get the ball Look at how N.E. has fallen off since they have become pass happy with “throw to me or I’ll take the game off” Moss. #1 receivers are divas that make a team 1 dimentional.

there is no way Jerry jones is giving us miles austin. vincent Jackson is a possibilty tho

a minimum of three REAL threats and an agressive minded OC.

Most us here could list the players and OCs for Offensive power houses since the 80s like the 80s Chargers,49s,Broncos and Dolphins the 90s 49s,Cowboys,Broncos,Bills,Vikings and Packers or the modern era Rams,Chargers,Colts,Steelers,Cardinals,Saints etc. they all have the same thing in common but all those pieces worked together.

I don’t think BM would be happy on a team where he would be just another piece because there is a big difference in a receiver who thinks they are the best and a receiver who thinks they are the best but is willing to take a back seat when neccessary…I might be wrong but I think he’s like TO in that way.

The other thing in my mind is that even though a #1 has the potential to totally change our Offensive output but does Henning have the right mentality and ability to take full advantage of the type of Offense it takes now days given his run first and bring in the WC at the weirdest times tendencies?

BP does love his LBs but if we can sign Dansby that increases the possibilities of trading picks for an elite #1 WR but I just wonder if he’s willing to change with the times..the Pat White pick tells me yes but just how far he’ll stray from his past moves remains to be seen.

But that’s not my main comment. My thinking got started with Matty’s excellent post, especially the first bulleted reasoning. You see, I lived and watched Marino’s career. He was the elite quarterback spoken of… he was also in a pass-happy offense. He also had great receivers, tho he "made" some of them.

I don’t believe any offense, running game, defense, pass rush; special teams, quarterback, linebacker, safety, receiver or running back gets you to or wins you the Super Bowl. If so, explain the following:

Miami’s Marino, receivers, passing offense and #1 thru #30 (Miami’s Killer Bees, Miami Pound Machine or Miami’s No-name) defenses?

Baltimore’s Dilfer and their #2 defense?

Buffalo’s Jim Kelly and #27, #12, #27, #17 defenses?

Washington’s Mark Rypien with Clark and Monk and a #18 defense, or Doug Williams and a #3 defense?

Dallas’ Roger Staubach and a #1 defense?

I don’t know all the stats to make this into a statistical argument. I’m just saying that it’s a team effort – players and coaching – regardless of ranking or any one player or offensive or defensive scheme. A team can have a #1 defense (Miami) and not make the big dance. A team can have a #1 offense (Miami) and not make the big dance. They can have the best quarterback or receivers or linebacker or running back and so on, and not make it either.

I’m not saying. I’m just saying.

(Oh, and gooooo)

We all know that you are a male gigalo as your “day job”. Just come out with it already Matty, LOL

I mention how much I think the NFL has become a pass-pass-pass first league. The cumulative effect of rule changes (protecting not just QB’s, but receivers from certain hits, as well as contact downfield, etc) and other developments generally means you best be able to put it up and score some points.

As an offense, the passing game is the weak link in Miami’s unit. We’ve all seen how our drives go: the typical 11-14 play drive with the longest gain being a ho-hum 12 yard come back to Devone Bess. Again, just using an example here.

So Dez Bryant fits the bill as targeting a huge area. But here are some questions:

What are the top 3 needs for this team, specifically by position? What are the 3 positions we must need to upgrade to progress to being a true contender?

Ok, is WR one of them?

Does Dez Bryant really address it?

Another consideration, rarely do receivers, even those that become the best in the game later, excel as rookies….be it Calvin Johnson, Andre Johnson, Brandon Marshall, Chad OchoCinco, Fitz, and many others. DeSean Jackson has been one of the few guys who had a good 1st year while others like Dwayne Bowe & Michael Clayton had good first years but their production suffered since then.

is he fast enough to get open consistently in the NFL? Watch his highlights and you’ll see he makes great grabs, but oftentimes a defender is right there with him….he’s not running past many people. Sure, speed isn’t everything of course but in the NFL the defenders are even faster, so it makes me question how consistently open he can get.

Does he run his routes precisely enough to be where he needs to be in a timing offense and be in synch with his QB?

Another point, it is almost universally agreed that next year’s WR class will be much better than this years. This year’s class is basically Dez Bryant as the sole, true 1st round grade WR, and a bunch of guys who are 2nd round material though they may go earlier because of team needs.

I don’t have a problem drafting a receiver at 12 but only if you feel very strongly that that guy is going to bring the goods and be a home run (or at least a stand-up double!). That’s the thing about Dez, he’s far from a slam-dunk pick (like Calvin Johnson was) and there’s plenty of questions about whether he’ll succeed in the NFL.

If the dolphins draft Dez, it is going to definitely feel like they are rolling the dice. It could turn up double-6’s or a deuce – I doubt he’d be average.

Yes his behavior is risky but the guy is arguably the Best WR in the game. Atleast top 3. His size and physical nature is EXACTLY what we need and he can go deep and also help in screens.

The lions would consider dealing him for a first round pick, and i read that the phins and lions are in trade talks. Players not mentioned that but we can dream cant we? Calvin is a favourite of mine! you?

You have a day job?

Henne MUST be given some tools. B.MARSH incredible talent makes him absolutely worth a shot.
How about pawning Ginn, Ginn’s family and/or P.Turner, PLUS our 2nd rounder for BMARSH or Austin or VJackson. Would anyone bite on that?? If so do it!
If we strike out on an established WR, we gotta go with Dez. Henne needs a legit game changing play maker

Dansby is best ILB out there. Get him. Then draft Williams the nose tackle(assuming DEz is gone or we get an experienced WR) or JPP

This would cover some of our major gaps and add an incredible amount of talent.

and started the still ongoing party in Nawlins?

Could it possibly have been that pick-6 by Saints DEFENSE? Well, as told to me by a friend who lives ON Bourbon St in NO, that is EXACTLY when the party started!

so defense no longer wins games. I see.

/sarcasm

i am totally with you. We NEED help on defense, but we also NEED that wide reciever. The nfl is changing and its a little scary to think that parcells might not be changing with it. Its time to get with the times and give henne some darn help.