Weekend Roundup: Talking Will Allen, the draft, Ted Ginn & more

Darryl washington is pretty fast so is weatherspoon but i dont know if hes an inside lb or outside.

My only problem with Mclain is that I have not seen that killer instinct that i would want from my starting LB. I want some one who is going to explode through tackles and be a menace at the center of defense especially if we’re gonna draft him 12th over all. . .

We need a LB and water is reported to be.. wet

Rolando McClain is not the best lber in the draft and Say yes to Dansby

He still would take up multiple offensive lineman. we dont know how good mclain is shedding blockers

But did anyone else want to pull their hair out while reading Ted Ginn’s Twitter posts? I follow the chump, but dont usually go and read his posts fully, I usually just skim them. Well I actually went and read some of his posts.. kid needs to lean english then maybe he can learn a play book?

Now I know I am not the perfect speller.. and I am not great at grammer.. but damn.. Ginn get a tutor or something. Id ask how he even made it into college, but we all know how he mannaged that one.

Only in a perfect world would the dolphins land Wilfolk, Dansby, Rolle and draft Dez Bryant.
In reality It would be great to get any 1 of these players during the FA.

in order for us to:
1- Have realistic expectations
2- Don’t be disappointed yet again
3- Avoid stupid arguments.

Ted Ginn will never be a #1 receiver. Tangibles wise he is a bad route runner, slow learner, middle of the pack hands, slow getting off the jam at the line, etc. But most importantly he just does not posses the intangibles necessary to be a star in this league, much less a #1 receiver. First of all he doesn’t have that “go to guy” mentality. He’s not clutch, like you all saw against the Colts on that last play. Im not on that group of guys that say him not making that catch was a mistake. No, that catch should only be expected from a legit #1 reciever. A Randy Moss, Andre Johnson or Larry Fitz, even Anquan Boldin, Brandon Marshall or VJ. Or eeeeven the giants Steve Smith or the tiny guy from the Eagles. However not from Ginn.
Now, having said that, I did see a HUGE amount of progress on Ginn’s part on the second half of the season. He was making plays across the field, he was catching balls near the sideline with sure hands and great concentration to keep his feet in bounds. And then of course, he kept burning guys downfield. He is a speedster plain and simple. We saw it against the Jets and then on a play that was called back against Houston. And he’ll make the catch too. Not to mention he has a really hard time playing with a safety over the top. This should no longer be a problem the moment we get ourselves a legit #1. Finally, he continues to be a home run threat every time he returns a kick. When and if the special teams unit starts playing better he’ll get a chance to shine a bit more.
Bottom line, adjusting our expectations on Ginn will not only prevent us from getting disappointed again, but it will also give the coaching staff a chance to exploit Ginn’s real potential as a NFL #2 or #3 wideout.

He’s going to be a star wherever he goes…. If he is available at #12 the only player I would pick over him is Eric Berry and I just don’t see him being there…

Of course we need ILB help. But when I watch Mcclain I don’t see him making enough impact plays. I don’t see him beating a block and making a play behind the line of scrimmage. I see someone that runs east-west to make plays giving up 5 yds a pop. We already have that- his name is Channing Crowder. Look at the way that Mcclain plays even at his level, then watch highlights of Karlos Dansby. I think he is exactly what we need. I think we need to do something to go get him. I think we either need to get Dez Bryant with our pick, or move up to #1 or #2 and get one of the DTs in the draft, either Ndamukong Suh, or Gerald McCoy(or hope they drop seriously). Until the draft actually starts there is nothing but speculation. No one would have guessed last year that the Raiders would go and pick Darius Heyward-Bey, but they did. In any case I am really not sure that Mcclain has done enough to show me he is anything else but a solid tackler, and frankly if we are going to pick an ILB with the # 12 pick we need a guy that will penetrate and make plays in the backfield. But then again, maybe I am just not watching enough film on him…. we’ll see….

and made me think. To quote you Matty:

We also need to keep in mind that the 2009 offense was designed for Chad Pennington, not Chad Henne. So this more conservative offense by design. I expect to see that change in 2010, regardless of who lines up at receiver for the Fins.

Not that I am jumping back on the Ginn bandwagon, I am very frustrated with his performance, but you bring up a very valid point. With an offense designed more for the cannon arm of Henne, maybe he will progress? Just one of those things that makes you say hmmmmmmm.

Though I have to agree with you after seeing some of the links you attached on Mcclain he doesn’t look very quick nor did he give me that warm fuzzy feeling. Where are all the locals that’s watched this guy play week in and week out. Also like I heard someone say before, was he that good just becasue he a a monster NT to work behind. I think we’ll end up snagging Williams or Cody late in the second. I don’t see u s trading up to get Berry and I don’t see us picking up Bryant. Agree, sign Dansby do whatever it takes to get him. That is if he doesn’t get that long term deal with Arizona. That will definately open up alot of options come draft. We could get a solid LB in the second especially if we trade down. We could all kinds of possibilities. Remember NE has like 3 second rounders to do as they wish. Damn Bellicheat! We need to compete.

With this team needing so much help on the defense, if we get a FA inside linebacker, then we could get some other defensive need at 12, or maybe even a player like Dez Bryant.

To me, he looks like a late 1st, early 2nd round type of pick. If he runs in the 4.80 range, that puts him solidly in the James Laurinitais (4.88) and Rey Maualuga (4.91) mold and they both went in the 2nd round.

1. for McClain is a reach even if he performs better than 4.80. He needs to be in the 4.50 range to be considered at #12. That’s where Patrick Willis (4.49) ran at the combine and he was drafted #11.

which we don’t need at the moment, Ayodele is who we need to replace, so drafting McClain is not going to help that, he may be a very good player, we just don’t need that right now.

Let the Ginn thing play out, you never know.

Will Allen may already have been trade bait before this, so he may end up gone regardless.

From “Ted Ginn”’s twitter:

This person has protected their tweets.

How do we know this is really Ted Ginn?

… Will Allen is fine. He made a mistake which I’m sure he won’t make again.

… McClain is not a favorite of mine. The first fifteen or twenty players should be play makers, game changers in my opinion. I don’t see that in him.

… Miami throwing deep will change next year. They’ll do it more. Ginn will be featured, but I also think the team will have someone else to run a deep route. Either through FA or the draft. My bet is later in the draft. And running a deep route is not that difficult to learn.

How about CJ Spiller lining up as a deep threat?

Vince Wilfork has been FRANCHISED by the pat-sies…

I know its a reach, and when i mean reach I mean Stretch Armstrong reach (see how many guys remeber that one)

But what are the chances that we get Antre Rolle, Karlos Dansby and Anquan Boldin. I mean imagine how sweet that would be.

First off all we would have to cut Gibril Wilson, especially since it would not penalize us. And pretty much give Wilsons contract (plus probably an extra mil or two) to Rolle.

Karlos would also cost us a pretty penny buit he would be around for a while. Signinghim to a five year contract would have us sit pretty. I think if we sign him, then moving Channing should be on our radar. My thought process is, that we sign Karlos, trade Crowder and draft another ILB to learn from Dansby and possibly start opposite him. That way when Dansby retires or leaves the Dolphins, we wont miss a beat.

Boldin, well we need to sacrifice a 3rd, hell maybe we can relinquish a 4th or 5th and Crowder since Arizona will be needing an ILB now. That way we kill two birds with one stone. I also think that make it easier to sign Boldin, then give hima nice 3-4 year deal.

But in all honesty out of the three, if I really had to choose one, I would say go for Antre Rolle.