Parcells says Dolphins "interested" in upgrading the wide receiver position
by Matty I on Feb 2, 2010 12:15 AM EST
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It's rare that Bill Parcells ever talks publicly about the Dolphins. He may be running the team's football operations, but he's all but a ghost to the media. However, Parcells did open up a little bit on Monday, taking part in a live chat on NFL.com. In this chat, Parcells talks about a lot of things - with a few of the nuggets, of course, being related to the Dolphins.
One of the questions Parcells was asked was about the team's interest in bringing in a number one receiver for Chad Henne. Bill's response was short, but potentially insightful:
"We'd be interested in the position. But they have to be available, we can't invent them."
So what do we make out of this? Well at least we know the Dolphins do have at least some interest in acquiring a top receiver. But how?
It seems as though Bill saying "they have to be available" would lead you to believe he was talking about bringing in a veteran - not drafting a potential number one receiver. But we're also slowly nearing the draft and it's the time of year when "misinformation" runs rampant.
For fun, though, let's take what he said literally and talk about some of the number one receivers who could potentially be available.
Anquan Boldin - Boldin is still under contract for 2010 at $3 million. But it's believed by some that the Cardinals will try their hardest to trade him this offseason. But he's going to be 30 in October and has missed ten regular season games in the past three seasons - having played just one full 16 game season since his rookie year.
Brandon Marshall - We already talked at length about Marshall. He's one of the most gifted receivers in the league but brings a ton of baggage with him. The Denver Post thinks Brandon, who is a restricted free agent, will be traded as soon as the new league year begins in March. But what's his price tag going to be and is it worth all the "extras" that he would bring?
Vincent Jackson - Jackson really exploded in 2009, finishing 9th in the league in receiving yards. And at 6'5, 230, he possesses a unique skill set. But he's a restricted free agent (assuming there is no new CBA reached before March) and signing him would be costly - in terms of money and draft picks that would need to be surrendered.
Chad Ochocinco - Mr. Ochocinco - or the man formerly known as Chad Johnson - seems to go back and forth between wishing to remain in Cincinnati and wanting out. He loves the city of Miami, though, and I'm sure would like to play for the Dolphins if the opportunity presented itself. But he's 32 years old and his production has dropped off the past two seasons. He's also under contract with the Bengals for two more seasons at $5 million and $6 million respectively.
Miles Austin - Austin is a Jersey kid and was drafted by Dallas when Bill Parcells was still there. He's a great example of a team "inventing" a number one receiver. But he's coming off of a breakout season, is a restricted free agent, and is a favorite of Cowboys owner Jerry Jones. The odds he's available come March are very slim. And even if he was, he'd cost the Dolphins some very high draft picks.
Terrell Owens - T.O. is a free agent following his one year stint in Buffalo. He's 36 years old and his past two seasons have been pedestrian relative to the kind of player Owens once was. And we all know about the baggage he would bring.
Antonio Bryant - Bryant was drafted by Dallas when Parcells was still there. But he and Parcells clashed in Dallas and it's known that he wasn't exactly a favorite of Bill's. He'll be 29 in March and has really only had one great season.
That's pretty much it in terms of potential number one receivers who could become available. Some of the top "second tier" receivers who will be free agents include Kevin Walter, Steve Breaston, and Malcom Floyd.
Of course, there's also always the draft. And I'm not sure why Parcells said you can't "invent" a number one receiver. That's been done plenty of times before. You just have to find the right guy - no easy task, of course.
So what do you think? We know the Dolphins are at least looking for a top receiver. Will they get one? And how?
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i dont think were going to go wifeout this year in the draft
Maybe one in the later rounds but i think they will wait for next year when there is going to be a few really good #1 possibilities in the draft
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by jojo phin fan on Feb 2, 2010 12:25 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Do we need a true #1???
Hartline did a great job as a rookie, Ginn is….well Ginn, Bess is a find at #2, Camarillo is a solid rec… how about a rookie to fill out the corps?
What starts here changes the world.
Hit the nail on the head! Get a Rookie.
None of these #1s are worth giving up a 1st round pick, esp the 12th pick!!.
We could easily add Dez Bryant and create a serious passing threat.
We should trade Ginn for whatever we can get.
by PresClintonius on Feb 2, 2010 6:22 PM EST up reply actions
Really?
Do we need to list all of the WR’s we’ve drafted that haven’t panned out?
or all of the other 1st and 2nd round WR’s that didn’t pan out for their respective teams?
a Absolute Proven Talent is worth a 1st round pick…. why? Because you know what you are getting…especially if they are young.
Is there another level above Absolute Proven Talent that I’m unaware of? Like some Super Powered Foresight Miss Cleo talent? and if so, who has it?
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DEZMON BRISCOE or MARDY GILARYD, these would be a deadly one two punch int he future which is what were building for.
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i am also a big steve breaston fan and i like malcolm floyd as well, lets go get MIKE WILLIAMS in round 3! he has all the intangibles!
thats funny
all the intangibles.
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Steve is a #3 WR on his own team...
why would you make him a #1 on ours?
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You don't think he just benefits greatly
by having 2 STUD WR’s on the outside? So he NEVER EVER EVER sees double coverage? or coverage rolled to his side?
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crap, reread what you said.... you were obviously joking lol
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I like that Parcells didn't...
… discredit the notion that this potential #1 wide receiver would be for Chad Henne.
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lol yes i was thinking the exact same thing
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by Davone_Is_BessT on Feb 2, 2010 4:32 PM EST up reply actions
You forgot Santonio Holmes,
as he may be available.
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He's a Floridian.
Issues with teammates?
He & Teddy played at Ohio.
He’s got a ring already. Prove it was cause of him with one from another team?
More money?
Man crush on Henne (you just can’t say Flacco’s pretty, can you)?
He wears funny masks in the shower.
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Because the Steelers did not resign him last year,
and they don’t let players get to the last year and resign them, they just don’t, this year may be a little different because of the CBA, but they know he’s going to make some money so I think they are going to let him go, this is what the Steelers do, thats why they are always at the bottom in spending.
Everyone in Steeler land knows he’s gone, because they did not resign him last year, they may be asking for something with the CBA what it is, but it won’t be a lot because they aren’t trying to keep him.
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by uncle finster on Feb 2, 2010 12:06 PM EST up reply actions
If you don't like BM's baggage....
you can’t like Santonio Holmes baggage….they are one in the same.
Domestic Abuse…
Just ask the Columbus, OH cops.
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I don't like him anyways....
…. and the baggage cinches it…!
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I don't really have a problem Marshall's baggage, concerns yes, but I'd like to see him in a Fins uni,
but they are in no way the same “baggage problem”, Holmes had ONE domestic dispute which was later dropped, in 07, not the repeated offenses like Marshall has had since college, not even close.
I’m just looking at the situation; availability+price tag+production= something our FO would do, lol, he is what you hoped Ginn would turn into, and is a big upgrade over Ginn.
Marshall will be too expensive IMO.
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by uncle finster on Feb 2, 2010 3:43 PM EST up reply actions
I can guarantee you Holmes has had more than 1 Domestic Dispute....
Maybe one that reported Nationally….but here in his own backyard, we see a lot more news coverage with his name on it. Thats all I’m saying.
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Matty b4 the trade deadline there was talk of D Bowe also might be on the outs with the Chiefs.
We know why now, he was going to be suspended for a boat load of games. But now that thats played out is there any chance the Chiefs would part with him?
Id say out of those listed Id go with Marshall or Jackson and I would pay a good price for one of them as well. But then again, I am not one of the “draft draft draft” guys. I would give up a 2nd and Porter for either of them, or Bowe for that matter.
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I think we missed the most important thing he said...
He said we can’t invent one… Meaning he doesn’t think there is one out there they are willing to pay the price to get. I think they have their mind set up upgrading defense as all of us do. I just hope that Patrick Turner can start to develop into the number one receiver that we need him to. You gotta love Hartline in his second year, Bess in his third year, and I am even willing to give Ginn a season to work on catching the ball. I think he might have psyched himself out at some point, and that problem only made his problem worse. As far as avoiding contact, I think he really needs to be in the weight room alll offseason putting on weight so that he doesn’t get chewed up like the little rag doll he is.
When a player like Brandon Marshall
Comes along, you need to make th move. Hes a top 3 WR in the NFL. Right with Andre Johnson and Larry Fitz. And hes 25 years old. Chad Henne writes about him in his diary.
i don't think it will happen beacuase....
Winning curses all. Chad Henne + Brandon Marshall + Ronnie Brown + Ricky Williams + a Great Offensive Line anchored by Jake Long= Winning and no complaining
If you really read what happened between Brandon Marshall and his “domestic absuse” what do you think really happened? You think he straight up hit the girl? I HIGHLY doubt it. He got caught chilling with another girl, his girlfriend got upset and she got violent and he simply just stopped her from hitting him. I wonder if the girlfriend was like wow my boyfriend is about to get mega-rich and hes out with other women and she flipped her lid. He didn’t know what to do. Were you there? How do you know exactly what happened? How can you ever know what happened between him and his girlfriend if you were not there. If he kept hitting women why isn’t he in jail?
I don’t condone violence ESPECIALLY against women. But none of us were there.
So let me ask you this question. What if he DOESN’T get arrested and/or Complain? You have one of the best offenses in football. Thats what.
hes a top 3 WR in football
and hes 25.
just wanted to reinterate that.
And rather than thinking its a forgone conclusion that hes going to get arrested (which is your opinion) just TRY to say What if he DOESN’T. Thats my new catch phrase.
WHAT IF HE DOESN’T
Just think of all the possibilties and fanfare that would follow.
D if it all panned out that way and he did not cost us an arm and a leg then thats one thing. I am sure that the FO would also want some pretty serious assurances from him that he has his life together.
I would like to point out that he has had issues with domestic abuse with more than one woman. In law enforcement we call that a pattern.
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I wont care if he puts up 1500 yards and leads us to victory.
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Receivers ARE SUPPOSED to complain...
about not getting the ball enough…. Hell, I did that in High School…
Good players WANT the ball.
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i agree
didnt like the whining tho when we shut him down last year
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by Davone_Is_BessT on Feb 2, 2010 4:34 PM EST up reply actions
Id hire him a good lawyer and throw him the ball more. :)
Henne is now our leader. Lets see what the guy can do !
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saying that Brandon Marshall is even near Andre Johnson is blasphemy
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i disagree
but i know there isn’t any convincing you otherwise, so i digress
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Lol don't act like you care about my opinion
I’m not getting sucked into some circular debate about Brandon Marshall. I don’t hate the guy but I wouldn’t trade the world for him.
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okay, my top five are
1. Andre Johnson
2. Larry Fitzgerald
3. Randy Moss
4. Reggie Wayne
5. Anquan Boldin
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are you going by performance over several years?
or just at this time in the nfl? what about Miles, Welker, Sidney Rice?
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Over the past few years (let's say 3 years)
leading up to now. I think those are the top 5 receivers in the NFL. I would take any one of them, anyday, and be confident they could make the catch we need at the right time.
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Love all those WRs
But i just think that Randy Moss is getting pretty old (hes 32) so thats 7 years older than Marshall. But I guess you could make the argument that for one year you might rather have Moss. I am also hearing he was playing injured after the Denver game this year.
I am one of the biggest Q fans you will meet but hes the type of WR that needs a Larger target that plays outside the numbers.
Where do you rank Brandon Mashall? Right below them then?
Yeah Moss is getting up there
but he’s still got it, he can make you look like a complete fool and he makes the most insane catches, still.
I can agree on Q, but I still think he could thrive in our offense.
I would say BM is #6 or 7. I’m pretty high on Roddy White, but BM will be mentioned with Andre soon enough. I just don’t think he’s there YET. Henne to Marshall is defiantly a wet dream, but idk if I’d want to risk it on him. I’m all about second chances, so if he could be a team player in 305, then do it. Spiller in the backfield and Marshall 50 yds downfield.
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I agree.
I really think the Patriots season would have been a lot more offensively oriented had Tom Brady not gotten injured (even tho he said he wasnt’) and if Moss was healthy (we just found out he dislocated his shoulder). Anquan Boldin would be an asset in any offense, the guy is a bull. Love Roddy White also.
Roddy would be a great addition to our offense I think.
But BM seems to muscle through tackles and in a couple years I think he’ll be amazing — as long as he isn’t cancer in the locker room. It could be he just hates Denver, or it could be he’s a narcissist
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Agree with this ranking
Lucas minus Moss. At this stage of his career Moss is a deep Wr and not a whole lot more. Brandon Marshall is a TOP FIVE Wr but his off the field baggage lower’s his ranking.
I think Tuna was meaning also the draft
If he is available, mightmean FA or the draft. Who knows. I cant wait til April to see who we get.
I doubt that would mean draft...
he said “if” one becomes available that he can’t just invent or just ‘make on up when there isn’t one available’. he couldn’t have meant draft because Dez Bryant would cost exactly what it would cost to get Brandon Marshall….our #12 pick. Bryant, as a rookie is a question mark, Marshall is already an established/proven Pro Bowl #1 WR. So if Parcells was even pondering using the #12 pick on a #1 WR, then he would use it on Marshall, not a question mark.
I think that if Miami doesn’t trade the #12 pick to DEN for Marshall that I would doubt very much he would end up using it on a question mark.
And if Parcells isn’t willing to spend the #12 pick on a WR, then the only other possibility would be sending a later round pick for Boldin.
In the end, I doubt MIA finds a #1 WR this year. I believe Parcells is going to settle for a speedster to return punts and push Ginn as the backup deep threat and keep the other WRs and decide who stays out of Turner, Bess, or Camarillo.
There *is* an interesting way to look at a WR need
jupiterfins above asks if we really need a “true #1”. Well, maybe we don’t. Maybe a team needs a combination of attributes and talent at WR – speed, size, strength, body control, football I.Q., etc. Hartline seems to have many of these attributes, but he is not overly fast, now overly big.
So, (here is my question) if Hartline develops into as reliable a WR as someone like Bess, but is just lacking in speed to be a “true #1 WR”, can we call him a #1.5 WR? Is so, can we get a guy that is really fast and reliable, to compliment him?
In other words, can a team have everything it needs at WR by having two #1.5s, rather than a #1 and a #2?
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I won't mess with your fractions
but I do think Hartline showed a lot and his potential is staggering. Everyone is amazed by Miles Austin but this is his 3rd or 4th year. And if Turner gets on the field next year, we have a pretty balanced WR corps……
How many catches did Miles have
in his first two sesaons? Something like 18. Then year 3 hits and boom! Pro Bowl. BP will be on Turner to get his ass in gear this year.
That had more to do with being the 4th receiver a lot of the time. Once a guy was
cut, another was failing and another got hurt they were forced to start him. Thats when he broke out. The thing I worry about with Turner is that he can not even get on the field. I will defer to the Parcells, Irelands and Sparanos on the issue but I doubt Parcells makes the statement he did yesterday if he thought we already had a possible number one.
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Agreed. I don't think he's a No.1 receiver
A big-time threat in the red zone? Possibly? A big-time play-maker? Probably not.
I am still hoping for either Arrelious Benn or Damian Williams …
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Here's to a Dolphins defense that could be No.1 in 2010 ...
I think hes in the top 10 but no Fitz or A Johnson.
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I think so...
With the right QB making quick aggressive decisions…even undersized players who are quick/fast can make for a strong passing element to an offense.
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by uncle finster on Feb 2, 2010 3:46 PM EST up reply actions
Rephrase:
Name a current dominant team that doesn’t have a #1 WR.
btw: I’d argue that the Saints and Colts are the perfect superbowl to punctuate the need for a Solid Offense. Their Offensive scoring and ability simply makes the opposing team 1 dimensional (they HAVE to pass to keep up), thus improving their own defense since they can pretty much dictate what type of play (pass/run) they will see. If my defense knew I was going to be facing passes 80% of the time….guaranteed we’d be a better defense, because we’d know what was coming.
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What's a current dominant team in your opinion?
Cause here’s the three most dominant the last 10 years – Colts, Pats, and Steelers.
Of those three, the Colts are really the only ones to have had a true #1 receiver. By that I’m going by the typical 6’3" or taller, 200+lbs, with breakaway speed. I don’t include Moss of the Pats, because they had their most success without him. And the Steelers, Hines Ward, doesn’t have the speed or size
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So I stopped thinking.
What is your definition of a true #1 receiver? Or a great team for that matter?
You could say the Steelers don’t have a true #1. Neither Holmes or Ward are your prototypical #1 receivers.
The 2008 Titans didn’t have a #1 receiver, and they went 13-3.
The 97-98 Broncos didn’t have a true #1, as Rod Smith lacked the ideal size.
The 01, 03-04 Pats definitely didn’t have a #1 receiver.
Those are just a few I can think of.
I used to think I had a drinking problem.
So I stopped thinking.
Hines Ward
is not your “prototypical” WR’s, but he is easily one of the toughest WR’s in the league.
Not only does he battle for the ball (ala Boldin style if not harder), but he runs cleans routes, and blocks better than any WR in the NFL.
I’m giving him a pass on not being a prototypical WR, cuz he’s clearly a real #1.
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So what you're saying is....
If Hartline keeps up his play, he could be a number one receiver?
I used to think I had a drinking problem.
So I stopped thinking.
Hartline (and I LOVE Hartline)
I may have been one of the first people on his bandwagon (mainly because I live in Columbus and saw him play live every week)…
BUT, he’s not a #1.
If he somehow elevated his game to Hines Wards level (ie learning to block better, getting open when double covered), then yes….I’d call him a #1.
But is he anywhere even close now? Absolutely not, and he’s shown no signs of being anything more than a solid #2.
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By the standards you gave me.....
In his rookie year, he’s already shown to be one tough SOB. He runs decent routes, for a rookie. And I can probably already say he’s our best blocking WR. I like the guy too, but just as I would classify Hines Ward, both are not true #1 receivers. What really helps Hines Ward right now is the fact he has speedy Santonio Holmes opposite him, and before that he had Plaxico Burress.
I used to think I had a drinking problem.
So I stopped thinking.
Actually, after looking at the stats. Hines Ward is a #2 receiver.
The best years of his career have been when he has had either Santonio Holmes or Plaxico Burress lined up opposite him. The one year he had without either of them (2005) and the first two years of Holmes career, he put up some of his worst numbers (minus his first 3 years in the league). Especially since the 4 years prior he was averaging over 90 catches a season and over 1000 yards receiving. Now that Holmes has matured, isn’t it amazing how coincidentally Wards numbers have gone back up?
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So I stopped thinking.
It's gona be a good one as ive been watching there are at least 6 - 12 name's!
posible 14, it’s gona be lets fill the apple cart with the finest apple’s, & let next year take care of itself. well is a deep subject for this shallow mind, but here we go once again. Detroit hasa a lot of need’s & may be willing to fill some of those need’s. a colosel trade of magnatude the miami dolphin’s bundle a 4 man trade. Porter,Thigpen, Wilson, & Turner, for let me get this right draft pick’s.
That’s just what they covett the most what are they, a #two & a #one next year?
by wild zion beaver on Feb 2, 2010 8:46 AM EST reply actions
T.O
I’ll probably shoot someone if we get T.O
Jackson would be amazing though, dont think he’s quite as good a b. marshall but i’d put jackson ahead of him when u factor in the baggage… I’d take both but its probably gonna take way to much to get either one and i dont know if its worth it
I think Parcells might have also been referring to the draft
when he said: “But they have to be available, we can’t invent them”.
In other words if there is a wr worth the price in FA he’ll take him, or if there is a good wr that falls to one of our picks in the draft (Dez Bryant in the 1st) he might also take him, not trade up or reach for one, hence “they have to be available”.
Exactly. Its hard to pinpoint exactly what the man means. He never really tips his hand and knows exactly what hes doing.
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I thought "we can't invent one" means
I want all of you to think we’re not going after a WR but really its one of our priorities.
by special agent wildcat on Feb 2, 2010 9:54 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Get one of the WR's listed above. Draft Spiller at #12. Watch this offense take off!
Adding an explosive WR and Spiller to this offense would instantly make all aspects of the team better. Offense and Defense. Bill Parcells needs to make this happen!
I want Spiller there too
I don’t know that I do see us doing more than signing an off-tier receiver like Steve Breaston and watching the rest of our young receivers go to work. I just don’t see us drafting another WR early when we have what, three 24-year-old receivers with potential? I’d be happywith a rotation of Ginn/Hartline/Bess/Breaston in the proper roles, given a Spiller talent to add dynamics and that the majority of our high-level picks go toward linebackers and safety(s).
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i can dig that
Although I’d prefer Spiller and getting Andre Johnson & Wilfork in the offseason
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LOL I would also loose my mind if we got Andre but how do you propose we go about that?
If they traded Andre there would be rioting in the streets of Houston. Well that could happen anyway but still…………….
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oh it would never happen (not conceivably at least)
but we can all dream. Seeing Andre in orange and a greenish tint would blow my friggin mind.
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Same here. Hands down, no question!
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we would have to trade two 1st's to get him most likely.
Worth it? Oh yes.
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I think they would ask for more but if its only 2 number ones then I do it in a heartbeat.
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two #1's and a second i would def do
after this year though, we need Spiller lol
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Thats still a good deal for the best WR in the game.
He instantly makes this offense a lot better. Maybe 1 this year, 1 and 2 next plus Ginn and they give us him and this and next years 4th.
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hell of a deal. we could still get a decent RB in 2nd or 3rd
and if Sheets pans out, our RB stable could be dangerous. Plus, Henne > Shaub
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Yep. Still never going to happen but I guess neither is 95% of the crap that we come up with around here.
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like getting Wilfork :(
or the FO drafting Spiller
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Right.
I don’t see us getting Wilfork but I would like to see it happen. I only see them drafting Spiller if they move Brown.
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i see us being cheap again this year
unfort
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Well maybe not if we dump some dead weight.
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We could offer Houston all of Mexico
And they still won’t trade Andre Johnson….
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Ummm...........................
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please, you think Texas doesn't want to get bigger?
lol
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No comment!
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The Stars at Night....
are Big and Bright……..
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You do realize that I'm not from Texas, right?
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I never said you were :)
you just replied… lol.
You know when you give a screaming baby attention, they just continue to scream :)
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Um Ok I guess.
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I, for one, wouldn't mind giving Texas back to Mexico, for oil..
just sayin’…
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AH! Someone else who thinks that getting the offense running at an...
… unstoppable pace, will make the entire team great.
I’d love me some Spiller. Draft him and watch, even the current receivers, make more plays. The defense can be found in later rounds…..! (or free agency)
Give me Jerry Hughes in the second round (#43) or Koa Misi in the 3rd (#73)
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are you kidding?
I watched him for years in Miami drop critical passes to end a drive. I was so happy when we traded him I took that as a consolation prize for such a crappy year we were having. He had a few big cathes, but he dropped way too many when it really counted. The number one job of a receiver is to catch the ball.
by Jason Scott_90 on Feb 2, 2010 5:27 PM EST up reply actions
Prima Donna's
Given that it is quite clearly a no Prima Donna’s team, the majority of these guys that are being mentioned all have issues related to wanting to be the one and only main man.
Just like Jason Taylor and now Joey Porter this team will not take on any whiny players as its just too much hassle (and too expensive).
The Fins aren’t going to give these guys the payday they’ll be after unless everything fits at which point someone else is likely to pay more!
Basically look at the draft or some “nobody” to be brought in, this team has worked great without a “star” and everybody pulling their weight.
Austin Collie
I doubt Dallas will let him go but isn’t he a FA this year?
you guys think Miles Austin
is a top 10 WR or last year was a fluke? Just wondering on your opinions.
I actually think he'll get better over the next few years
Dallas would be wise to pair him with a receiver who isn’t a complete nugget.
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Miles Austin will not be going anywhere so everyone should just forget about him.
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We'll see how Dez Bryant does at the Combine
This guy hasn’t played since September(?) and there are some questions marks about the whole Deion Sanders thing. BP is never, ever, EVER! going to tip his hand. He should play on the World Poker Tour! Besides, there are some small college WR that have some skills and could be ‘available’ in the later rounds, including the BM clone Carlton Mitchell.
The name "Carlton" makes me think of "The Fresh Prince of Bel Air"
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carlton
but this one is 6’4" and runs a 4.4 40..i like his consistent hands as well and he is a great deep ball threat.
Sounds like what we need.
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Wow. He's much faster than Brandon Marshall
Is he prone to beating up women? If not, I hope we take a look at him.
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LOL Good call!
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I only want him
if he’s prone to 100+ receptions and over 1,000 yards consistently.
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Failing that...
We should be able to nab David Gettis out of Baylor as an undrafted FA (worked out well with Bess). Gettis is 6-4, 210, and runs a 4.44 40yrd dash so he’s something of a Carlton Mitchell clone and he’s got more playing experience (albeit with inferior stats). I’m pretty sure he’s been invited to the combine though so he might move up into the rounds and require a draft pick.
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There's a fine line between hopeful and desperate. Just look @ Jets fans.
Antonio Bryant is a good choice i think.
Ive seen him play and seen flashes of greatness even in Tampa. But i dont know if he even wants to go to a different team since Tampa found their future QB in Freeman
Um he had one of the biggest publicized fights with a coach ever. Parcells hates him and
hes way to inconsistent.
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plus he sucks
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And theres that!
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I've seen like two flashes of "greatness" from him
but dude seriously is just a bust.
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Yeah hes had flashes but so has Ginn.
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and I don't really care for Ginn either lol
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Exactly my point.
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And in other news....
Bill Parcell’s observed: “It has been raining a lot lately in South Florida”.
Discuss…..
hahahaha
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by uncle finster on Feb 2, 2010 12:10 PM EST up reply actions
Heh, glad some of you picked up on my meaning :-)
I mean, let’s be honest, he’s the guy running an NFL franchise – what else could he have said?
No, we have no interest in upgrade the X position!
Next thing you know, he’ll say ‘we expect to win the AFC East next year’ and it’ll somehow be a news item…
Non-committal and vague,
sounds like Tuna’s talking football, lol.
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by uncle finster on Feb 2, 2010 6:53 PM EST up reply actions
Well played. Way to find the nugget of news that really matters.
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Rain is slang for a drug
drugs are big in Miami. Miami’s big in the drug trade… BILL PARCELLS DEALS DRUGS!!!
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we need a #1 receiver
Just the threat alone will open up the other receivers not to mention TE’s
good point
I think it’s becoming more and more apparent
that the offense is becoming way more important than it used to be…
a good offense goes a long way nowadays and having a #1 receiver should be a top priority this offseason
with Graham @ TE
we don’t need him to be open, he’ll jump 3 feet in teh air to get the ball
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not saying he's the best
but look at Braylon Edwards. Sure he drops the ball a lot but he opens up other receivers with the threat of catching the ball. And with the chance that no football will be played in 2011-12 I say we need to go all out!!
I agree
I don’t think we should go all out to get a #1 (unless it’s Andre) wideout, but it would certainly make defenses focus on more than our running game. with a #1 and Spiller this offense could be top 10 easily.
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We do need to draft Graham if hes there for us later in the draft.
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he needs to polish his catching a bit
but he knows how to run routes and he can run block like a beast. Pass protection i think he’s suspect in. Once he can consistently catch the ball, he’s a huge threat. That game against VT showed his rustiness as football concerns. But he was huge in that Oklahoma game.
I really hope Laron Byrd continues to develop because in two years he could really be the next Andre Johnson. That Virgina game is the perfect example
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But he has as much or more upside than anyone in the draft.
You dont use an early pick but later in the draft for sure. He could be that guy one day that everyone wonders how he fell so far.
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oh for sure, HUGE upside esp for a 3rd rounder
If he falls to the 4th (which i highly doubt) and we snag him, it will be highway robbery
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I do see him available in the early 4
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Then score!
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If we have an early 4th
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Well theres that. I think the FO will work on adding some more picks.
At least thats what I hope happens.
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ronnie should fetch us at least a 3rd
do it
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I think at team that thinks they are a star RB away from getting
to the top will give up a 2.
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even trade to the Vikings for Peterson
Ronnie for A.P. — fair eh?? lolz
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LMFAO
We will sooner get Andre J.
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We'll do both.
We just need to get some hostages
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Do what you have to. Just don't tell me.
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Only if we can put superglue on his hands
to help him stop his fumbling problem.
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I can't brain today, I have the dumb.
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Thats something that can be fixed with good coaching.
Remember Tiki having all the fumble issues. He had one good coach spend about 30 min with him and then it was fixed.
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Round 3 is probably the latest we can get him.
I’d love to see it but I doubt he falls that far after his Senior Bowl week unless he has a week combine. Still I can hope.
NY Jets = NFL's Chicago Cubs
There's a fine line between hopeful and desperate. Just look @ Jets fans.
I feel a new bandwagon coming on!
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someone already started it, i can't remember who exactly though...
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If I have not seen in then it does not exist.
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lol the almighty TCP requires visual proof!
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Hey you know the rules. No visual evidence then it did not happen.
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if a tree falls in a forrest and TCP doesn't see it
WHO THE HELL CARES ABOUT IT
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Come on brother. You know the rules!
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i'm just reiterating it for everyone else
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LOL Thats funny because it seemed sort of like a shot at me.
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me? shoot @ you? NEVER!
;P haha
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Ahhh we are all fair game at some point around here.
I guess I can always say at least I’m not Enhalen, Nicky or Sam.
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I hope he skips the combine and we can pick him up in round 7 lol
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This!
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Man, that would be the steal of the draft.
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the steal of a lifetime!
only way it could be better is if we got him undrafted, but I would want him to actually be drafted cos he deserves it.
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Ill take either.
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I'd spend a sixth on him.
But I’m keeping my fifth. MMM…that’s good whiskey.
NY Jets = NFL's Chicago Cubs
There's a fine line between hopeful and desperate. Just look @ Jets fans.
lulz
i’d spend a 3rd on him fosho
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Sorry
NY Jets = NFL's Chicago Cubs
There's a fine line between hopeful and desperate. Just look @ Jets fans.
Long Day at Work
and work to be done at home. Want whiskey.
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There's a fine line between hopeful and desperate. Just look @ Jets fans.
another thing that will open up TEs is ...
A good TE. We really need to think about upgrading TE at the same time that we get a # 1 receiver. From the sound of things Parcells didn’t like any of the receivers out there for the price(‘we can’t invent them"). If we can’t find someone who can shut up and do the job for the price we are willing to pay, if we could at least get a TE that could go get things done that would do a lot to open up our receivers and running game.
by Jason Scott_90 on Feb 2, 2010 5:32 PM EST up reply actions
u say name a good team with no number one
Well look no further than the colts,tell me,do u really think this teams recievers scare anyone without peyton throwing them the ball? I think not,if so,resting peyton that game wouldnt have mattered so much if they had a true number one reciever.
Truth is,id say we need an all around run block/pass catching tony gonzalez type te before a primadona #1 reciever. Offer porter fer winslow,he wants to leave that bad. And draft spiller in the first. Trade ronnie and his injury history for a second and a fifth nab spikesand if u still feel the itch for a number one,add either breaston or ol boy from arizona. But seriously,i dont see us really needing one
by dolphinfan4lyfe on Feb 2, 2010 2:18 PM EST via mobile reply actions
did this guy...
seriously just say that Reggie Wayne isn’t a #1 WR? Seriously? Yes Peyton Manning is throwing him the ball but this really might be the worst argument I have ever heard. Look no further than the colts!? WOW. So i guess Jerry Rice isn’t a #1 WR either because he had Montanna and Young throwing to him?
in addition
when manning came out, so did the WRs (all of them). Reggie Wayne came, they guy you just said wouldn’t scare anyone without Manning. lol.
No... Montanna and Young were good ...
Because all they had to do was throw the ball and Jerry Rice would go get it wherever it was on the field. When the ball was in the air it was his ball. Everyone knew he was going to catch it. If we could get someone like that who could just catch the ball, make big plays and not cry, complain, beat their wife, etc, I say go out and make it happen. But we have other holes on our team and we do not need to mortgage our future because we don’t believe in the FO’s ability to draft and fill needs. Last year I would say that our biggest problem was CB. Fixed x2 in the draft. Let them go get the right guy. I will not accept that we need a Brandon Marshall. There are still guys out there like Rice that just shut up and make plays(see Andre Johnson).
by Jason Scott_90 on Feb 2, 2010 5:38 PM EST up reply actions
Reggie Wayne is scary as hell!
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to use a word I hate the most....
Fail.
Just fail…..
You have no idea how much it pains me to say that idiot internet phrase…so therefore you know exactly how ridiculous your statement is.
REGGIE WAYNE….
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you just pwned him....fail ....
and I hate that even worse lol
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A fail beyond question
Undisputed.
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love to see v jackson lined outside, but not if he’s restricted, unless we can give them picks next year. Breaston would fill the need, maybe get gilyard in the 3rd, but rather grab best avail ng with that pick..first 2 picks need to be speed lbs.
I do not believe that he is saying anything.....
You substitute WR with just about any other position and his response would be the same. I would expect any front office guy on any team to say “We’d be interested in the position. But they have to be available, we can’t invent them.” They SHOULD always be interested in improving their roster at each position if they are available.
As far as the speculation on which of those receivers we get; I do not think that we will trade picks for any player. The FO builds through the draft and plugs holes with FAs. It is cheaper for them to build through the draft and it keeps the team young. If there is a UFA WR that hits the market and they are better than the WR we have the FO might take action.
Now I propose this question, if they do pick up a RFA, UFA WR or draft a WR in the 1st round; which of the current WRs does not make the team? It is time to churn the bottom 3rd of the roster.
by Ralph In Michigan on Feb 2, 2010 3:16 PM EST reply actions
Pat Turner
I think we already tried to invent a #1 WR from the draft and so far it appears it has failed.
What's the story on PT..?
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So far there is no story.
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read some where that he's not a good learner
hasnt improved much
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by Davone_Is_BessT on Feb 2, 2010 4:36 PM EST up reply actions
he's a dummy
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... that is so funny on so many levels for me...!!!
LOL
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Eh... I can deal with Dumb....
So it takes him a few years to learn how to play on the NFL level. The average WR hits their stride in year 3 … they are all dumb…
by Jason Scott_90 on Feb 2, 2010 5:45 PM EST up reply actions
The story is he eats at IHOP for breakfast
before a hard day of work on the PRACTICE squad….
then maybe an hour of madden, before he watches Hannah Montana.
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But we have Ted Ginn who is gonna break bad and "save us" next year
sarcasim off
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"If he wants to, we can throw all day," Henne said. "I love it. Put it in my hands in pressure situations."
Neo isn't allowed to make jokes
Only serious talk!
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"If he wants to, we can throw all day," Henne said. "I love it. Put it in my hands in pressure situations."
by Neo on Feb 2, 2010 5:04 PM EST up reply actions
4th year is the charm
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lol... I can't believe you went there....
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No WR this year
our issue last year was not moving the ball…it was stopping the big play. we need ILB and a saftety…WR can wait
WR can wait
If we get a vet FA WR then we can attend almost the entire draft to defense.
In case you didn’t notice 3 teams with high powered offenses made it to the Championship game EASILY. Did I mention EASILY?1 team made it with defense. And we saw what happened to that great defense.
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by Neo on Feb 2, 2010 5:01 PM EST up reply actions
I agree with your point but in all fairness it was Peyton Manning that did that to the Jets defense.
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True
But Chad Henne did that too when Ginn actually “showed up”.
My point is. If you rely totally on defense and you get a offense that can rip it apart. Your done. Most of the time all you can do is it crow. If you have a offense you have a fighting chance.
Did NO, Minnesota, Arz or Indy get as far as they did with their defense?
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by Neo on Feb 2, 2010 6:16 PM EST up reply actions
I would say that they all play some pretty good D at times.
I know we need that number one receiver but if we don’t fix the defense do you really think we have a chance no matter how good the offense is?
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Nobody was complaining about our defense in 08
Nolan is gonna make a HUGE difference and I did say.
If we get a vet FA WR then we can attend almost the entire draft to defense.
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by Neo on Feb 2, 2010 6:36 PM EST up reply actions
I pray you are right about Nolan. I have always been a defensive guy.
Dont get me wrong. I say we give Porter and a 3rd to the Cards for Boldin.
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NO & Indy had the...
8th & 20th best defenses (in terms of PPG allowed). The best defense both in yards/game & fewest PPG/allowed in the whole league was that of the Jets – yet they were clearly underdogs given their less than potent offense.
I think Neo’s on to something and the colts actually provide a nice tie-in. When they won the SB down here a few years ago, I believe it was the first time a team with a D outside the top 10 in PPG/allowed had won.
So this year you are looking at either 8 or 20 in terms of the SB winner’s defense in terms of PPG.
Looking at it season by season, I think one can always find exceptions & get a bit lost due to what’s termed noise, in statistics circles – but I think in the long term, the game is moving more towards favoring the passing game & more scoring. It isn’t simply the passing game rules in terms of wideouts, but also the increased late hit calls on QB’s, the helmet to helmet hits downfield as well as the below the knee hits on QB’s.
I think the league wants it this way – more offense, more scoring. Right or wrong, I tend to feel they link it to attracting a bigger audience.
wont parse the higher math on NO, indy, vikes or cards
but the reason we lost the last 3 games plus buffalo and missed the postseason was DEFENSE, in case this minor point is forgotten, and it is why we saw the back of PP…
i don’t buy o vs. d as an either/ or argument. but D needs attention!
i wonder what nolan has told them about brandon marshall, hoho
by a1a on Feb 2, 2010 7:59 PM EST up reply actions
missed the postseason was DEFENSE, in case this minor point is forgotten
That minor thought was not forgotten but in case you missed it:
If we get a vet FA WR then we can attend almost the entire draft to defense.
i wonder what nolan has told them about brandon marshall,
me too
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"If he wants to, we can throw all day," Henne said. "I love it. Put it in my hands in pressure situations."
by Neo on Feb 2, 2010 8:11 PM EST up reply actions
yea i agreed with your point earlier .... FA and leave D to the draft
as the chinese say, ‘problem settled.’
by a1a on Feb 2, 2010 8:15 PM EST up reply actions
OCHO....or marshall
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Draft Aaron Hernandez in the 2010 Draft.
Malcolm Floyd...
the only reason he was so good is because Vincent usually had double coverage on him.
But Floyd made some nice catches this year….
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Draft Aaron Hernandez in the 2010 Draft.
Not a chance
After what happened between Parcells and TO in Dallas, do you actually think he would bring him here?
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by Neo on Feb 2, 2010 6:37 PM EST up reply actions
Will never happen. I was here for that whole drama and no one wants to see that happen in Miami.
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TO drops a tremendous amount of catches
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yep
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Theres a kid that played with Bess that will be trying out runs good routes have speed played the outside 6’2 was a deep threat check some of his U-Tubes video from Hawii His name is Ryan G Mullen was not drafted and did a year in BC broke a record in KR. Comes at a bargin,Bill I think he’s going to wait around to see whats up. I Think he trying to say to us keep what you got till you can get what you need. lol
We picked him up .... he looks like a taller(5'11") and faster (4.36) Davone Bess...
I am sure he has sure hands too…
"As a freshman for Hawaii, Grice-Mullen appeared in 12 games, starting 11 of them. He led UH’s receiving corps with 1,228 yards and 12 TDs. He also recorded five 100+ yard receiving games.1
During his sophomore year, Grice-Mullen was injured for several games and started a total of nine games.
During his junior year, Grice-Mullen caught 106 passes for 1372 yards and 13 TDs. He earned first team All-WAC honors and was part of the WAC’s Special Award for Offensive Unit of the Year."
by Jason Scott_90 on Feb 2, 2010 7:33 PM EST up reply actions
He was already signed by us in January
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For that matter ... what about Jason Rivers...
from Hawaii’s pro day that year:
WR Jason Rivers (6-1 ½, 204): Ran the 40 in 4.59, had a 34-inch vertical jump, 9-foot, 6-inch long jump, 8 reps in the bench press, ran position workout — but pulled a hamstring about three-quarters of the way through.
TUNA IS RIGHT!!!!!!
You don’t invent Number 1 Recievers, You develop them! No. 1 recievers take time to create. Some may explode onto the scene like Anquan Boldin and Randy Moss, but how often does that happen? Look at the top 30 recievers in the league right now, most of them were not drafted in the first round and some of them were not even drafted at all!
by The Hickster on Feb 2, 2010 8:27 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
This is a good comment
And rec’d. I’d like to add——-the circumstances must be conducive in order for a young player to come in and " explode " onto the scene. The coaching staff must be wowed with the players athletic arrogance along with the Qb. After this, he must be featured, other wise he’s just another talented player with his potential not being relized by the coaching staff (ala Miles Austin until Roy Williams got hurt). In the NFL today coaches are reluctant to hitch their wagon to rookie Wr’s or Qb’s to a lesser degree anymore for job security reasons. I don’t agree with this philosophy but it is occuring.
The Dolphin need a #1 Wr that will get the respect of opposing DC’s. An alpha Wr that will dictate coverages and tilit the field. All Qb’s benefit from legitimate #1’s and Henne is no different. A veteran should be brought in to aid in the development of the young Qb Henne.
No 1 in Draft
I don’t see us drafting or even being able to draft Dez in the first round, it looks more like Def. in first round, I really hope we are able to pick up Alexander out of Missouri in one of the later rounds, he has great speed and size, broke recieving records this past year as well, anyone remember Maclin, he’s better than Maclin as a reciever!!!!
WE Get boldin
We will most likely trade porter to AZ for boldin and we give them also our 3rd round pick.
with the 12th pick we get either joe haden or carlos dunlop then 2nd round we grab dunlop if we grabbed haden first because haden wount be around past pick 20 in the first round.
4th round we grab hernendez TE from florida. 5th we grab Shipley WR from texas
take a look at this WR core plus a spped happy grabbing ball hugging TE in hernendez.
Boldin #1 because the dude is a #1 WR with no questions asked. Hartline #2 he is a possesion WR very good to have Bess #3 one of the best slot runners in the NFL then put shipley as a #4 for the outside slot runs the kid is a #3 WR all day long evan can be a #2 that way we have 4 solid wr’s and some sick TE.
Now heres the kicker we trade Brown away for either next years pick and another pick next year or the following year we grab Ingram when he comes out that way we will have ingram the bull running ppl over Cobbs catching def sleeping out of the backfeild with his 65 yard catches down feild and then the sideline killer ike hillard we have spped strength and hands from 3 diffrent back feild players keeps our runners fresh.
its a stretch to add 3 Florida guys but look at each one for what they are haden has to be the best cover corner comeing out in the last 4 years put him opposite of davis and make smith 3rd CB that way we have another solid CB to cover the dam TE.
then you have dunlop who is the quickest off the ball from college in the last 5 years the guy gets a jump on the QB when the ball is snapped easy to get passed the OT. put him and wake wither on the line or both at LBS that fixes our LBS and adds a nother CB because we are getting Rolle with no questions asked. instant fix to both sides of the bal
allthough we will still have a game manager as a QB we need something more he is not the best QB he is just a conservative QB he has a arm? Sure. Dose he have some leadership? sure is he a good QB? Sure but he will not win most of the games with the game on the line like the SB if it was in his hands as proven from his days at michagan he had 1 good year out of 4 and the reason they won the bowl that year was because the D was solid .
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