Karlos Dansby wants to come to Miami - and we should all want him here
by Matty I on Feb 16, 2010 12:15 AM EST
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PrintWhen it comes to free agency, fans always seem to dream far bigger than they should. They fail to keep things realistic. I know I've fallen victim to that a lot and I'm sure all of you have, too.
With that said, I think the Miami Dolphins have a very real shot of signing the best free agent linebacker on the market this offseason - Cardinals LB Karlos Dansby. Dansby is everything I think the Dolphins really need at linebacker and would be an ideal fit in Mike Nolan's 3-4 defense.
So let's take this one step at a time. First off, why do I think the Dolphins will be heavily involved in the bidding for Dansby? Two reasons. One - Bill Parcells loves linebackers and the Dolphins need linebackers. And two - Dansby clearly sees the Dolphins as a realistic destination. He did list the Dolphins as one of four potential destinations last week on Sirius NFL Radio. Dansby was also on with WQAM's Orlando Alzugaray last Friday. He had a lot to say. I transcribed some of the highlights and they are below:
(On how much he'd like to rejoin college teammate Ronnie Brown and complete that vision they had in college)
"It would be huge, man, to get an opportunity to play with anybody I had an opportunity to play with in college. It would be huge.""Like I said, to come down there to Miami to a program that’s building up and becoming a contender in the tough eastern conference in the AFC. It’s tough in the AFC, man. It’s very tough. And like I said, I like their attitude. I like how they approach the game. And they’re in every game. They’re fighting to win every game. And that shows a lot of promise and I’d love to be down there."
(On if Karlos thinks he's a 'Parcells guy')
"I really do, Big O. I really do, man. Parcells told me one time when we were playing Dallas in Dallas – and they beat us bad, beat us real bad – and leaving that field, Parcells told me, he was like, 'Dansby, you’re a hell of a player.' And that kind of stuck with me ever since that day. That was my second season in and for Parcells to tell a young player something like that – that’s going to stick.'
(On if he wants to give Parcells a shout-out)
"Oh definitely, man. Parcells, man, hit your boy Karlos Dansby up, man. I’m ready, man. I think I’m a proven player. I think I can bring a lot to the table. I’m definitely what you need."(On how much he'd enjoy playing in Miami's 3-4 where a LB has a chance to make lots of plays)
"That’s definitely what I like to do. I like to make plays. And I like to be called upon to make the play. I like the guys to look up to me to make that play, expect me to make that play. If the guys around me expect me to make a play, I got to step up to the challenge. And I like challenges."
Of course, you have to keep in mind that Karlos is trying to drive up his price tag and make as much money as possible. So of course he's going to do the rounds and speak with radio stations for many cities whose teams may need a linebacker. It would be bad business if he didn't. With that said, though, I really believe him when he says that the compliment Bill Parcells gave him years ago has stuck with him. That shows how respected Bill is. That and his feelings towards the Dolphins and their "attitude" and "approach to the game" - as Dansby said - could easily lure him to Miami.
So why should the Dolphins want him? That's easy. We know the Dolphins desperately need upgrades at linebacker - both inside and out. Karlos is a really good fit. He's good against the run. He's a good pass rusher, when necessary. And most importantly, he's a great coverage linebacker - something the Dolphins desperately need. ProFootballFocus ranks Dansby as the 7th best coverage ILB in the league.
But let's hear it right from a good source - somebody who has probably seen every snap in Dansby's career. To do that, let's welcome in Andrew from Revenge of the Birds - SBN's Cardinals blog. Below is a nice scouting report he put together for us on Karlos:
Strengths - Dansby is a versatile linebacker that can line up in the middle or to the outside. He's fast and can cover just about any position on the offense. He's a playmaker, and he forces turnovers. Against the Packers in the playoffs, he tipped Rodgers first pass for an interception, he forced a fumble on their next drive, and scored the game-winning fumble recovery for a touchdown. Basically, he has a knack for making impact plays happen at key moments in games. He's never been a distraction on or off the field, and was an important leader to the young linebackers.
Weaknesses - He's not biggest linebacker, or at least built like one. He won't bring ideal run support that may be needed. Although he's not a distraction, he believes he should be paid higher then what he's worth. If you pulled Dansby for Patrick Willis, the Cardinals run defense would dramatically improve, and I believe the quality at linebacker around him would improve as well. That's the best way for me to describe his weakness, so take it for what it's worth.
Summary - Karlos Dansby has been one of the few consistent pieces to the Cardinals defense and was a valuable asset to the team during their last two successful seasons. He can line up and cover quick tight ends, or can rush the quarterback. For the last few seasons, Dansby has played middle linebacker and only middle. The Cardinals used him primarily in the middle for run support and to drop into coverage. He did began his career to the outside and was successful, so I'd imagine he could play multiple positions for the Dolphins. In my view, Dansby was always an emotional leader on the defense and never complained about his role with the team. He can make plays through the air and ground and still has a lot to give at 28-years old. However, he has reached his peak so what you see is what you get.
Sound good to you?
The final question becomes, of course, what he'll cost as an unrestricted free agent. I'd imagine it'll be around what Bart Scott got from the Jets last offseason - probably a little more because Dansby is better than Scott. But to me, that's not too steep of a price. He'd fill a need for at least a solid four seasons. And he'd free up draft picks to use elsewhere. Suddenly, even if McClain was available at #12, the Dolphins could go elsewhere in round one. A play-maker on offense? A pass-rushing linebacker? A safety? A nose tackle? The possibilities are endless.
So what about all of you? Would you be willing to give Karlos a deal similar to Bart Scott's 6 year, $48 million with $22 million in guarantees?
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go get the man
he is the exact fit we need on our defence and i really like the playmaking knack. and very well said matty i like the opportunities it gives with our first pick, maybe we could now focus on Dez Bryant? i cant wait to see how this plays out
Interesting.. your "Strengths, Weaknesses, Summary" block should temper some excitement...
From what I’ve been hearing and reading on this, Karlos is a man unstoppable. But after reading your block, he’s no Zach Thomas.
Will he continue to make plays once he’s paid?
Is he an upgrade to what the team has next to Crowder?
Does the team get him AND McClain replacing Crowder too?
Is McClain just as good, with potential, giving more years than four?
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McCalin is crap man it's all about Weatherspoon and i think we should get Dansby
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That's not nice. Plus, McCalin is probably crap since I've never heard anything about him.
MClain, on the other hand, will make a pretty good ILB.
nice............ is that palin and mclain = mccalin?? didnt they just run for office?!
Just one mans opinion...
by MagicDolphin on Feb 16, 2010 7:53 AM EST up reply actions
Keep in mind...
that McClain has never played a down in the NFL. We have a much better idea of what we’re getting in Dansby than McClain. The latter could be a star, average, or bust out completely.
Granted, whether what Dansby brings is worth it – that’s another question.
I watched every game McClain every played... He went to High School
right down the road from my aunt and I saw a couple of his high school games… The man is going to be a hell of a linebacker wherever he goes… He ran our defense at Alabama to perfection and I think he would do the same up here… I’m going to miss him a lot next year…
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by BamaPhinzFan on Feb 16, 2010 5:26 PM EST up reply actions
i would do it in a second
we would instantly get an impact lb who can rush the passer and cover tight ends and we have crowder who can help out with the run d, if we do get him i would still like to get sharpton and another lb in the 2nd or 3rd round
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by jojo phin fan on Feb 16, 2010 12:34 AM EST via mobile reply actions
hahaha loved how you slipped a little message to the Jets here:
probably a little more because Dansby is better than Scott.
pick up dansby
draft micah johnson for the run support. dude is a tackling beast
draft micah johnson
YES...
Micah Johnson is an underrated ILB and could be available in later rounds. Dansby and Johnson would be an awesome ILB combo.
bring him to miami... now
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by el presidente 00 on Feb 16, 2010 12:55 AM EST reply actions
Would be a great pickup ...
I think this would be the best FA signing the Dolphins have made under the “trifecta” if they pull this off.
However to be a complete downer …
I have read on many different occasions that they believe in getting there PB players from the draft and only think of getting solid role players in FA. I don’t think this will change BUT it might just this one time depending on what Ross gives them for a budget with no cap in place.
I also could still see the trifecta taking McClain with the #12 pick because we were that bad in the front 7 last season lol
Mcclain sucks dont get your hopes up
he may be smart but have you seen him make any impact plays or any REAL tackles? Weatherspoon is the m,an we need to get as he could be our OLB or our ILB
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Did you watch any college football last year? McClain was a man amongst boys...
even in the dominant SEC.
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by NavajoShamanSchoolAlum on Feb 16, 2010 3:56 PM EST up reply actions
What are you talking about real tackles or impact plays... He made impact plays all the time,,,,
My question to you is: Have YOU ever seen McClain play????
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by BamaPhinzFan on Feb 16, 2010 5:32 PM EST up reply actions
well, they did go after Calvin Pace a couple years ago
even if they were eventually outbid, at least it means will take a shot
by Brooklynfinfan on Feb 16, 2010 7:12 PM EST up reply actions
sadly they've also gone after Ernest Wilford & Gerbil Wilson..
the draft, FA signings – it is partly science but also art. So far the FO has had mixed results in the FA arena, with better luck coming in the draft.
Get Dansby please he's a great leader and could be what Ray Lewis is to the Ravens to us
with Dansby in middle we could pick up Weatherspoon with the first pick and a couple of other defensive players later on.
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PAY THAT MAN!
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by jojo phin fan on Feb 16, 2010 1:35 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Well, what more do you want me to say? This is all just speculation right now
I really like this because we can now trade down in the first round, collect extra draft picks and not have to worry so much about the gaping hole that was our inside linebacker position (though I am still not a huge Crowder fan).
I would also be OK with picking up Dansby, drafting McClain and letting Crowder’s Porter-supporter ass go.
Regardless of draft approach, the road to the playoffs in 2010 starts with signing Dansby.
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Would you be willing to give Karlos a deal similar to Bart Scott's 6 year, $48 million with $22 million in guarantees?
Sure I would. But it ain’t my pocket book either.
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I would sign him for that, but,
if I could only sign 1 big $ FA it would be Wilfork.
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very good point, it seems like if you are going to pay a front-7 player
almost 10 mill a year it might as well be an elite NT, rather than an elite ILB. The reasoning behind this is 1- A dominant NT is the most key piece in a 3-4 defense that wants to dominate and 2- Good ILBs are not THAT hard to find in the draft and not even in the first round. Think Maualuga and Laurenatis last season.
I’d be thrilled with Dansby though. All Im saying is that if I was to give someone a huge payday it would be elite NT first, elite WR second and even elite FS before elite ILB.
I can certainly agree with that notion,
because I think they would be crazy to let him get away, but there has been some “talk” about them not tagging him, could be just wishful thinking on my part though.
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by uncle finster on Feb 16, 2010 11:33 AM EST up reply actions
the voices in your head finster?
Just think how stupid the average Jest fan is, and then realize that half of them are even stupider! ( a parody of a George Carlin line)
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I disagree with your statement.
I would love to sign Wilfork. I think he is one of the top 5 NT in the league. But if I could sign only one high priced FA it wouldn’t be a NT. Dansby will be on the field every play. Wilfork will only be on the field half the time.
For the Phins defense right now, Dansby fills a bigger need and can help with both the pass and run defense. Wilfork only helps in the run defense because he will not be on the field during obvious passing downs and for certain offensive formations.
can you?
I think it is a tricky position to fill and the dolphins still haven’t found a guy to be a quality starter there in the draft.
It sure is tricky,
and is widely considered one of the toughest positions to fill on D, and the most critical position in the 3-4 IMO.
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by uncle finster on Feb 16, 2010 11:35 AM EST up reply actions
NT is important but not the most critical position in a 3-4
When Jenkins went out for the Jets, there wasn’t a significant drop off in the overall play of the defense. That’s because NT is a limited playing time position. A NT is only effective on running plays and those account for less than half of all offensive plays on gameday.
The most critical positions in a 3-4 defense are LB’s. The truly great 3-4 defenses have stud LB’s. Run stuffing ILB’s and pass rushing OLB’s. Until the Phins upgrade the LB corp (significantly), I really don’t see the Phins becoming a dominant D.
A good NT makes bad LBs look good in the 3-4.
A bad NT will expose bad LBs in a 3-4.
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lol... a TE or RB will expose bad linebackers...
… can we say “wiff”!
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Does Casey Hampton make Woodley (13.5 sacks) and Harrison (10 sacks) better pash rushing OLB's?
Not really because he isn’t on the field in most passing situations. Charles Harris and Bart Scott, both ILB’s for the Jets, were #1 and #2 in tackles for the team with Kris Jenkins only playing 6 games. So either Jenkins back-up is a stud and would be starting on most other teams, or Harris and Scott are really good. I think Harris and Scott are really good.
How dare you....
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You're assuming....
They got most of their sacks on downs they knew the team would be passing. Unless you have knowledge of what formation was being used when they got the sack, you’re simply guessing. You’re also generalizing my statement. I didn’t say if you have a good NT, your LBs must be bad. I was simply stating that if you have bad LBs, a good NT will conceal it (see Miami Dolphins 09’ LBs).
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Here something that alot of you may not know....
Channing Crowder and Akin Ayodele combined for only 12 more tackles than Dansby had by himself all of last season. Yeah our LBers suck ass and if we can get him for alittle more than we paid sorry ass Joey Porter,then i say try and sign him the moment he becomes available.Then we can do what everyone on this blogs been saying; draft Spiller or Bryant.
PRICE TAG
if we get him for the money Bart Scott get…. its a robbery
as Dansby is three times the player Maggie Scott is!!!!!
keep in mind that all the years of production, all the turnovers and game changing plays
- he made behind an below average defensive line
sky is the limit with this guy, if we put him behind a top DLine (NT) he will fly around for us and bring swagger to this group. I believe he would be an huge upgrade and free up Crowder to make plays as well.
DANSBY ALL the way. Make it happen Tuna, make it happen
ILB solution 2010
we either get Dansby or we must land Sean Wheaterspoon
i dont like McClaine, he is too slow, stiff and not good enough trough traffic
a 12th pick should be spent ond elite talent – McClaine to me is a late 1st round talent
in that case i feel like waiting for round 2 and taking Brandon Spikes who is a similar player like McClaine
Theres a reason EVERYONE has him in the top 15.
and he is VERY fast and is very strong so he would be a great pick even if we signed dansby.
Signing him would be an awesome way to start FA
I really do believe Tuna will get this guy and that gets me very excited…maybe too excited.. lol
only thing that scares me….. the Giants are very desperate of a ILB, even more then us
i dont think he is a perfect fit for a 4-3 but you know about the crazy NY owners
i know its not realistic….but let me dream
NT Wilfork
ILB Dansby
Draft:
ILB Sean Wheaterspoon
WR Brandon LaFell
NT Cam Thomas
FS Myron Rolle
WR/KR and OG depth….
rename the AFC East into the AFC Fins
weatherspoon?.................6'1" with cleats?...........on the inside?...........C'MON MAN!!!
Just one mans opinion...
by MagicDolphin on Feb 16, 2010 7:58 AM EST up reply actions
the giants may snag the eye gouger before he gets to us in the second round.........
he’s not a first rounder option for us………..
Just one mans opinion...
by MagicDolphin on Feb 16, 2010 8:04 AM EST up reply actions
6'3 vs 6'1
what do you prefer a 6’3 ILB who is always chasing behind the RBs and WRs, missing tackle and looks like he get freaking robot legs
OR
a 6’1 dude with a motor, attitude, energy, can run with TE and WRs and tackle????
its like a supermodel 10 which you cant even kiss, and a cute dirty little ass 9 who is nastay lol
wow...GET HIM DOWN HERE!
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Pay the man!!!!
If we got Karlos Dansby, we could use our first on PP, our second rounder on either WR or TE (would perfer TE since WR is deep next year in the draft.), and our third on a NT if any are still there. if not best available
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by PotM on Feb 16, 2010 6:20 AM EST via mobile reply actions
He's no Jackie Shipp
2009 was like picking up a fat chick, You had a little fun, but you don't necessarily want to see it again.
R U Kidding?
Shipp was a beast!!!!
2009 was like picking up a fat chick, You had a little fun, but you don't necessarily want to see it again.
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noo, he is a pro bowler in the making.
why hasn't he made it yet........or are you saying he is on the verge...........
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by MagicDolphin on Feb 16, 2010 8:05 AM EST up reply actions
cards defense
because he played behind a shitty dline
the cardinals defense was weak for years and Dansby was one of only 3-4 talented guys on that unit
he is a tackling and turnover machine even without a good or even an average NT in front of him, that means he has to fight trough OL to make plays and he still does.
imagine how productive he can be when he plays behind a good dline
shi dog i want dansby on our team i dont care if it makes cents or not
by wild zion beaver on Feb 18, 2010 9:25 PM EST up reply actions
Um but you have to care!
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by texascowpunk on Feb 18, 2010 9:30 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I thought that too!
Although he may not play UP to his SIZE.
NEW DRAFT PLAN: Sign Dansby and Pennington. Trade Tyler Thigpen to Buffalo for the 1st RD swap to #9 ahead of Denver. Draft Dez Bryant. Trade the Third Rounder to Denver for TE Tony Sheffler and Wesley Woodyard.
by DolphDallas on Feb 16, 2010 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
Love it
I hope we get this guy, and that we get McClain to drop to us in the draft. This would make our ILB a strength of this team. Maybe Channing can move to OLB or something.
by Jonathan McCarter on Feb 16, 2010 8:06 AM EST reply actions
I think if Miami can only get one big FA then they should get a WR
I know LB are a big need but dont you guys think making are QB elite more important?
They need to give that money to a #1 WR
For those wanting Wilfork, isn't he a restricted FA and not just a FA. which would mean we'd have to give up Draft picks to get him
So i dont see tha happening. I like the idea but, do we think this would happen and what exactly do you think it’ll cost. Would we have to give up picks or just $$$$$. I would like to see Dansby, Mcclain, Wake on the field together. That would definately put our Defense into the top 10 if not better. Well as long as we have a FS back ther to cover someone. I beleive we can still win with the WR we have now but, I’d still like to have a true #1 on my wish list. The question is Dansby or Boldin. I don’t see us going for both, but what a surprise tha twould be huh.
Wilfork
Wilfork and Danby both are UFA.
the difference, Dansby got franchisetagged twice – so if the card would tag him a 3rd time – he would get QB money.
Wilfork is an UFA, the only problem, he hasnt been tagged yet. so the Patriots will consider to tag him – even after he made everybody know that he wouldnt be happy about that.
I think they'll definitely tag Wilfork
why wouldn’t they? Especially in light of the uncapped year. No need to let your best defender walk away…
Dansby or Boldin?
That’s easy – Dansby 100%. He wouldn’t cost any draft picks, is younger, and hardly ever misses a game.
Dansby vs Boldin
good point, to be honest, im not a fan of Boldin at this stage…i think his best days are behind. Arizona should have shipped him last offseason. I doubt anybody is willing to offer near what they are asking for.
if spending a 2nd or 3rd…PLEASE….call the Saints for Robert Meachem
they have so many weapons, they might be willing to ship him to fill another need
by Crowder 911 on Feb 16, 2010 10:03 AM EST up reply actions
Not a doubt in my mind this gets done if our offer is top
The fact that we only have four UFAs and nine picks already means we won’t be adding as many players as in the past. Since we already have nine picks I’d assume it’s going to be a light FA class. Look at the budget they used over the last two years in guaranteed money. I think Wilson and Grove equal the $22 million you’re estimating.
My point is if we have to sign less FAs then we can package more into one player without exceeding last year’s budget. That’s a real good sign that we’ll do what needs to be done to get Dansby here.
Dansby is the key to the whole off-season. Now lets hope the Steelers get cheap and let Hampton walk.
by special agent wildcat on Feb 16, 2010 9:24 AM EST reply actions
GET DANSBY !
Dansby would be a GREAT FIT in Miami – we really need LB’s that can RUN and COVER… Plus we would still need McClain to play the middle next to Crowder … cause Crowder needs help ! I would still draft McClain and let Dansby play OLB – plus resign Taylor for help with the PASS RUSH……and still draft another LB in the 4th – 6th rounds.
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This is awesome!
I really hope this happens, this would fix a big hole with a veteran presence and allow us to use the draft for other positions.
He can line up and cover quick tight ends
I especially like this part. Something we desperately need!
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Pick up Dansby
He’s a solid cover LB, decent in run support, and makes plays. Don’t draft McClain #1, use the pick on a WR, Spiller, or the best defensive player available (please let Berry drop!) and draft Daryl Washington in the 3rd. ILB from TCU. Spikes is garbage, simply a Crowder clone, he cant cover anybody. Washington is the man.
What starts here changes the world.
Get him whatever the cost
I’d be willing to give Dansby anything he asked for first, because it’s not my money, and second, because there’s no salary cap to hurt the team. My guess is that the absence of a cap as well as the lack of quality FAs is going to send prices through the roof.
McClaine
guys, do me a favour and watch the scouting video on youtube on him from draftparty
i dont know but he to me looks like a younger Ayodele.
FA – get Dansby
Draft
- if FS Berry falls get him
- try to trade down mid 1st and get ILB Wheaterspoon, NT Thomas, WR LaFell or if a stoud OLB falls
- unable to move NT Williams, ILB Spikes, OLB
DANSBY / CARDINALS - UFA - franchise tag situation
Under the CBA, the third straight use of the franchise tag would require the Cardinals to offer him a one-year guaranteed contract equal to the average of the five highest-paid players in the league from 2009. Based on NFLPA records, they are: Peyton Manning ($21,199,998), Julius Peppers ($16,683,000), Donovan McNabb ($16,704,170), Matt Cassel ($15,200,000), and Tom Brady ($14,620,000).
we could trade CP10 and 3rd rd. to arizona and get boldin. John Clayton has been talking about Chaddy P going to arizona to compete
by Phins4life2334 on Feb 16, 2010 10:07 AM EST reply actions
CP10
is no longer u nder contract with the Fins coming March 5th
And rumours fly that the Rams are about tu cut Marc Bulger… so he might be an option in ARI
by Crowder 911 on Feb 16, 2010 10:09 AM EST up reply actions
yea they could just sign him and not give a draft pick
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i would be all in to get dansby….berry would be nice too but with money owed to wilson dont see that helping. Wilfork is gonna get tagged, so maybe draft ng, williams from tenn. not sure bryant will be there at #12, and is he healthy? don’t need damaged goods. All i know is tuna will do what’s best, camoron is long gone….amen
Bring him aboard......NOW
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The bottom line...
Dansby is better than any ILB currently on the Dolphins roster. He may not be the best ILB out there, but Arizona franchised twice him for a reason. He’s be a great addition to the defense. Go for it!
dansby
scouts ranks him as one of the top 7 ILB and top 4 cover ILB by the way
believe me Dansby is the real deal, as i said consider that the rest of the cards defense specially dline is garbage – he will shine our front is stoud
by Crowder 911 on Feb 16, 2010 11:03 AM EST up reply actions
Ever since last year's draft our INSIDE LB has been our #1 weak spot
I say you definetly need to consider Dansby as our big name FA signee this year because Crowder is great at what he does, as a run stopping LB and Dansby is good in coverage and can make the plays that we just don’t see from Crowder. As lucky as the Jets were this year to get as far as they did, the reason they were successful was a stellar LB core, one in which (as of now) we are sadly mediocre. If Dansby is not our man then we may look elsewhere (I’d say Demeco Ryans) or we would have to take a risk in the draft and go McClain or Spikes (both in which I am confident will translate well to the NFL). However if we secure a player like Dansby now he will instantly upgrade our LB core and I believe we are one OLB from being absolutely dominant. Like Matty said however, if we get a guy like Karlos we can address another need in the draft such as a safety or a do-it-all Offense threat like CJ Spiller.
If it were me??? Bring Dansby or Ryans to Miami. We need a SURE THING at LB because pass rush/ and mid coverage is our biggest concern and if Dansby does become a Dolphin ww should let him talk to his boy Antrel to come down here as well and prep for a championship
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you nailed it
i believe also taht a combo of Crowder and Dansby would be epic
i guess the coaches would consider to let dansby call the plays that would free crowder up even more. and as we saw, every game crowder is out, opponents run all over us.
by Crowder 911 on Feb 16, 2010 11:05 AM EST up reply actions
If Crowder is one of the ILB's, it won't be "epic"
Sorry, but Crowder is the weakest link in the LB corp. Adoyele played better than Crowder did last year. Adoyele had 20 more tackles. All 4 LB positions need upgrading, starting with Crowder.
i disagree...
Crowder is good at what he does… Last year he wasn’t as effective but he still is good in the run game. His coverage is lacking which is why we need a better complementary ILB because Ayodele wasn’t good in coverage either… a main reason why TE’s TORCHED us last year.
Laces out!
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Suck it Pats, Bills and most of all... the god damn jets.
Sean Smith/Vontae Davis= Pat Surtain/Sam Madison
Beat ya to it
I used to think I had a drinking problem.
So I stopped thinking.
Disagree.
If Crowder has someone else taking the pressure off him of having to be a playmaker, he’s the perfect complimentary ILB. As for last years stats, Ayodele played in 4 more games than Crowder. So actually Crowder had better per game stats than Ayodele.
I used to think I had a drinking problem.
So I stopped thinking.
agree lol
Laces out!
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Suck it Pats, Bills and most of all... the god damn jets.
Sean Smith/Vontae Davis= Pat Surtain/Sam Madison
Crowder vs Ayodele
are you kidding me??
1. of all Ayodele is unable to line up the Defense and get everybody in position
2. Ayodele did miss more tackles then Rex Ryan a all you can eat buffet
3. Crowder is younger and has upside – Ayodele doesnt
4. Crowder is stoud vs the run – Ayodele doesnt
5. both suck in pass coverage
and the list goes on and on
you really should stop smoke that much weed
Well among other things...
signing Dansby might mean the Dolphins D no longer serves as a weekly showcase for every opposing TE wanting to go to the Pro Bowl :-)
What about Dansby AND McClain?
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Heh, heh, heh... that's what I said...
Replace Crowder too. He’s nothing but a support linebacker. Supported Zach when he was on the team. Haven’t liked him since he’s started. Then he was thrust into the lead with Zach gone, and he’s done very little in making plays.
I’d like Jerry Hughes to go with Wake on the outside, but definitely someone like Karlos on the inside…
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watch this scouting video about the good & bad of his game
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miJwMCgaxKo
tell me he is worth the 12th pick afterwards – cause i dont feel like
WOW! You really don't like Mcclain do you Crowder lol.
I haven’t seen the video, but everything I’ve read and all the so called Pro Scout’s have him listed at the top of the board for LB’s. That’s why I wish they had an all star college bowl game instead of just the Senior Bowl. That way you can see all the top rank players go head to head and see where the real talent lies. You get alot of these kids in smaller schools that never get any media attention. They always get overlooked. I can’t wait till the combine and see some of these kids stock rise.
by D0lphins4Life on Feb 16, 2010 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
Sign him sign him sign him sign him
Regardless of what it takes. That’d give us soooooo much more freedom in the draft this year. And honestly, I think we still would keep Crowder but we’ll draft some more ILB’s anyway to be eventual replacements. And if we sign Dansby as a FA, that means I won’t feel as bad for drafting a playmaker with the #12 pick, say, oh I don’t know, Bryant….or Spiller?
If we lock up Dansby, I am definitely changing my Dolphins mock draft
If so, I hope we trade down to grab Dan Williams or an outside linebacker and then yank Brandon Spikes in the second round. Consider our front seven bolstered …
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exactly, wasting a huge amount of $ and a high 1st round pick
on 2 ILBs would be a huge aberration. One of it’s ok, cause we really need it, but 2 would be too much. Im 100% positive that if Parcells falls in love with this year’s Mathews or Orakpo he’ll go for his precious OLB.
Yep ... and I'd be fine with that
Assuming we have Dansby, I’d be disappointed if we didn’t nab a nose tackle or outside linebacker in the first round.
kmb8488 -- The Johnny Lawrence of the Phinsider!
Sign Dansby and Pennington. Use Thigpen to move up ahead of Denver to get Dez Bryant at #9.
Would you be willing to give Karlos a deal similar to Bart Scott’s 6 year, $48 million with $22 million in guarantees?
YES
NEW DRAFT PLAN: Sign Dansby and Pennington. Trade Tyler Thigpen to Buffalo for the 1st RD swap to #9 ahead of Denver. Draft Dez Bryant. Trade the Third Rounder to Denver for TE Tony Sheffler and Wesley Woodyard.
One thing i didn't know about dansby
is that he’s a good coverage LB. Let’s say Chris Clemons is our answer at FS, we sign Dansby, and we draft a OLB. That solves 3 of our Defensive problems. Not to mention if Fergie comes back, then it solves 4 problems.
And if we sign Dansby, he’ll compliment Crowder as well, because crowder is a Run-stopping ILB. Dansby would cover well and allow Crowder to take more chances. And it would also eliminate TE from being our gaping weakness that lost us games last year.
trust me, we want this guy
living in AZ i get to catch all of the cards games. The guy is mr. reliable…and when you need someone to make a play he is always right there. he does get lost from time to time in every down run support, but anyone that conisistently gets over 100+ tackles every year is still obvioulsy stopping the ball carrier. is he patrick willis? No….but he is the next best thing for us. plus if we get him it makes our plans more wide open with the draft. we could then trade a 3rd for boldin, or camm(or ginn) and a 2nd for VJack….or hell, even that 1st for fr8trains love craze BM. Lots of options become available just by signing this guy that parcells abviously likes.
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SIGN HIM and WILFORK!!!!
McClain is overhyped, 4real!!
draft DEZ BRYANT or CJ SPILLER!!
Sign him! Thats a no brainer!
Then trade down in the first round with Cincy so they can take Dez Bryant and draft Earl Thomas with the 21st pick. Cam Thomas in the second. Pat Angerer ILB in the 3rd. Brandon Spikes is going to suck in the NFL just like his twin Crowder. Pat Angerer will be better and cheaper. As for receiver I say Eric Decker from Minnesota in the 4th. He has been overlooked.
I WANT HIM!!!
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by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Feb 16, 2010 2:48 PM EST reply actions
... calling Zac Effron....
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by texascowpunk on Feb 16, 2010 5:23 PM EST up reply actions
hahahaha SLAP
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by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Feb 16, 2010 6:50 PM EST up reply actions
Get this Man
If we paid for loud mouth Joey, This should be a no brainer.
I say get McClain and Dansby. That would be sick nasty.
Draft a third round nose tackle and then focus round two on a wr. I’m telling you this could be a special special team next year.
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by NavajoShamanSchoolAlum on Feb 16, 2010 3:57 PM EST reply actions
I say we take the" WIN NOW" attitude of the JEST!!
I say pick up both Dansby and Boldin. Pick up MClain, Bryant or Spiller whoever is the best player available and set ourselves up to win now. Incorporate the same attitude we’ve had the past 2 years and lets go deep into the playoffs and earn a spot by taking the division.Unlike the JEST who were given a free pass All I can say is “WHY NOT US”
by D0lphins4Life on Feb 16, 2010 4:30 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Go big
or go home … so yeah we gotta take em and get those W’s
by CaptainTomahawk on Feb 17, 2010 1:58 PM EST up reply actions
yummy!
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Dansby
is an elite LB… Miami would be lucky to land him. But I’ve read on other sports blog the exact same quotes here! Its all in vain until a contract is signed!
Def worth a little more money though-
I don’t agree with Andrew’s take on his weaknesses. He has great run stopping vision and abilities.
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