A quick look at free agent tight ends
by Matty I on Feb 10, 2010 12:15 AM EST
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Ever since the Dolphins' season ended, fans everywhere have been clamoring for Miami to upgrade the receiver position. It seems like that's how most think the Dolphins could improve their offense. Lost in the shuffle, though, is the tight end position. A real pass-catching threat from the tight end position - a guy who can stretch the field over the middle - can instantly change an offense.
The Dolphins have some decisions to make, too. Tight ends Anthony Fasano and Joey Haynos are both restricted free agents. Both could easily be tendered by Miami and return. But could there be an upgrade on the free agent market?
Below are some of the top free agent tight ends:
Owen Daniels - The 6'3, 250 pound Daniels is one of the top receiving tight ends in the game. He was on pace for a second consecutive 70 reception, 800 yard season before tearing his ACL in week eight. But he expects to be ready for training camp. However, Daniels is a restricted free agent and the Texans would be crazy not to use the highest possible tender on their star tight end.
Tony Scheffler - Scheffler is also a restricted free agent this offseason. But he hasn't been happy with his reduced role in Josh McDaniel's offense and wants out of Denver. The Broncos are expected to oblige. But a team that wants Scheffler's services will likely have to strike a deal with Denver. The Dolphins, of course, will have some inside knowledge on Tony now that Mike Nolan is in Miami. I personally think the 6'5, 250 tight end would be an outstanding fit in Miami. He'll be 27 this month and has his best years in front of him. He's a good route runner and has reliable hands. He can get down the seam and stretch a defense. But what will Denver want in return?
Benjamin Watson - The 29 year old Patriot is an unrestricted free agent this offseason and recently switched agents and is now represented by the South Florida based Rosenhaus Sports. Watson is another tight end who, like Scheffler, can get down the field. He's athletic and can really abuse linebackers who match up in man coverage on him. He's only 29 and would be a good alternative to what Miami already has. But what kind of contract will he be looking for?
Bo Scaife - Scaife is an interesting player. He's got a lot of talent but disappeared from time to time during his time in Tennessee. The Titans thought enough of him, though, to franchise him last year. He's a restricted free agent this year and would have to pay him more than the $4.46 million he got last year if they want to tender him. That means Bo is likely to hit the open market. But he's caught over 50 passes just once and has never scored more than two touchdowns in a season. He's a lot like Fasano. He's more of an underneath, check-down tight end and isn't as athletic as those we talked about above.
The Rest - Guys like Randy McMichael, Leonard Pope, and Matt Spaeth are also out there. But none of the other guys present any kind of upgrade over the two guys we could bring back - Fasano and Haynos.
There are also some intriguing prospects in April's draft at the tight end position. And we'll focus on them as the draft nears.
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by The Scarecrow on Feb 10, 2010 12:29 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Watson or Scheffler. Or we draft Aaron Hernandez.
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by kdock on Feb 10, 2010 12:31 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Watson or Scheffler?
Really?
Thats not much of an upgrade over what we have.
Owen Daniels or bust….
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by Fr8Train on Feb 10, 2010 9:33 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
We won't be able to pry Daniels from the grip of the Houston Texans.
They will definitely keep him.
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by kdock on Feb 11, 2010 1:35 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i like the way you said "abuse linebackers" lol
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by jojo phin fan on Feb 10, 2010 1:08 AM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Ditto
I’d like to see Graham come here, but have to wonder how expensive (round-wise) it’ll be to do so.
I’d also be thrilled to have either Watson or Scheffler come here. Perhaps Tony follows Nolan to play for Tony? Who knows. I’m not sure Watson would walk the line, either.
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by Dave.Phuller on Feb 10, 2010 1:11 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i think it would be a 4th
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by jojo phin fan on Feb 10, 2010 2:33 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Yes and yes!
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by texascowpunk on Feb 10, 2010 5:14 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I want Watson
because he’s great, unrestricted, and Belicheck probably wants to keep him.
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by Farorefox on Feb 10, 2010 1:16 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I think Belichicken wants to move on
Which tells you even more about Watson’s worth.
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by TheFinReaper on Feb 10, 2010 8:28 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Two words:
Richard Seymour.
Just because Belicheat wants to move on doesn’t mean the guy isn’t still a great player.
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by joel311 on Feb 10, 2010 4:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Seymour, Dick
LOLOL I just realized that.
/maturity
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by joel311 on Feb 10, 2010 4:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
bringing in watson
does 2 things for the dolphins. upgrades our TE and takes away a good TE from the hated pats
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by frostyphinfan on Feb 10, 2010 8:58 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Watson..
always seemed to make catches in big situations against our Fins. Howver, I’ve read over the past year over at Pats Pulpit that he seems to have a rep of ‘stone hands’. I wouldn’t mind getting him for the right price for his veteran experience to go along with whatever combination of young TE’s we assemble.
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by OntheGo on Feb 10, 2010 9:22 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Watson is not great!!
Fasano has better hands than Watson. It would not be an upgrade. Watson is more athletic, but he is not great at catching the ball.
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by miami25 on Feb 10, 2010 12:39 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Jeff Ireland had a sit down interview with Jimmy Graham
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Amen!!!!!
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I like the chick from "it's all about the O"...
… she’s of German descent. Wait, wut?
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by Alpha6 on Feb 10, 2010 12:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I just don't understand what happened to Fasano
He just didn’t look like the same dude the second time around. I’d like an upgrade but then again they tried to upgrade FS last year too. Maybe we should stick with Fasano and look to the draft to try and find a diamond in the rough. We need more production from this spot though just as much as another good WR.
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by AussieKen on Feb 10, 2010 1:45 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
watson
Ive always thought of Watson as a beast of a te, i think with Henne in here that Watson could have a Tony Gonzalez, or Jeremy Shockey type of season.
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by HawkFire89 on Feb 10, 2010 1:57 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
as opposed to Tom Brady throwing him the ball?
you honestly think that Henne is an upgrade over Brady at this point in his career to get Watson the ball?
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by Dragon27az on Feb 10, 2010 1:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think he is insinuating
that Watson won’t have to compete with Welker or Moss for targets. It’s a valid point.
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by joel311 on Feb 10, 2010 4:46 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
in the dolphin's system vs. the patriots?
hell yeah. we use multiple TE sets often vs. the patiots 3 or 4 wr sets
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by PotM on Feb 10, 2010 6:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Watson is the only real true answer ...
gotta love the changes in the CBA haha the trifecta will be holding on to all of there draft picks so really the only player is Watson. He would be a great pickup IMO
by markus_13 on Feb 10, 2010 3:00 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Martin
What’s goin on with Martin?
He used to make so many clutch catches.
by phranchise on Feb 10, 2010 3:48 AM EST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Tony scheffler, lol
this is a guy who was made a back up this year and has been vocal about not liking how he was used and wants out of Denver, and we want him, and Joey is a cancer, lol.
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by uncle finster on Feb 10, 2010 4:31 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
He was even benched for the final game for attitude problems.
perception, lol
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by uncle finster on Feb 10, 2010 4:36 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
it's a completely different situation
i was talking with a writer from the Denver Post about something else but Scheffler came up and I was told that he’s not a problem at all. The kid just wants to play. But McDaniels plays favorites and worked in Daniel Graham (cus of the NE connection) far more than he should have. Before this, Tony was never a problem.
by Matty I on Feb 10, 2010 7:16 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Damn.
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Now I know.
now i know.
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by Alpha6 on Feb 10, 2010 12:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
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by Dragon27az on Feb 10, 2010 1:25 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
How is that different????
He wasn’t a problem until he wasn’t happy with how he was being used, lol.
Sounds very familiar, lol.
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by uncle finster on Feb 10, 2010 12:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's different because when a coach starts someone over you just because he is buddy-buddy with that guy, you get pissed.
I had it happen to me where another keeper was started, even though I practiced better and had better stats whenever I got to play (yeah, I played soccer…so what?). I watched my brother play QB and be the #2 guy because the #1 was the coach’s son.
Being unhappy with playing time, and not getting playing time because the guy in front of you is friends with the coach are two completely different things.
Scheffler is 100% correct in wanting to get out of there and not being happy with being benched if this is really what happened.
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by Mosul_DolFan on Feb 10, 2010 12:35 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So he has an excuse to be defiant to the coach, lol.
You gotta do better than that Mosul.
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by uncle finster on Feb 10, 2010 3:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
How defiant has he been?
Other than saying he wants to go somewhere else? If that’s the case, I guess LT is being defiant in SD as well.
(If there are specific examples that I don’t know about, I will retract this statement)
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by Mosul_DolFan on Feb 10, 2010 6:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He was benched the final game of this season for his attitude problem,
lol, isn’t that enough.
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by uncle finster on Feb 10, 2010 6:48 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
But what caused that?
If the coach is wanting to start his guy over his supposed #1, and the #1 asks why, isn’t that enough to call him defiant, an attitude problem, and bench him?
I would like to know what exactly was the “attitude problem”
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by Mosul_DolFan on Feb 10, 2010 7:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Check below
If he said that," can’t wait for Denver’s season to end", 1000 times worse than anything Joey has said, that is truly pathetic.
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by uncle finster on Feb 10, 2010 10:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
no
not with Josh McDaniels. The guy’s a turd and has favorites. I’d be pissed if I was Scheffler, too.
by Matty I on Feb 10, 2010 8:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Grahams numbers did not go up,
they are about the same as they were last year, slightly less actually, but normal;
07, 24cths, 2 TDs
08, 32cths, 4 TDs
09, 28cths, 1 TD
So I fail to see the favoritism here, just a guy who is griping because he was not happy, here are some thoughts I found;
Tony Scheffler was demoted to the scout team and benched after he was overheard telling fellow Broncos team mates that he could not wait for Denverâs season to end.
Most importantly in the story, Werder says that McDaniels met with several of the Broncos team leaders who told him to take a hard line approach in the teams pursuit of accountability.
Scheffler and McDaniels relationship has never healed after the talented tight end publicly sided with former Broncos QB Jay Cutler during the off season drama.
Weâve been hearing rumblings for a few weeks now that Scheffler was unhappy in this system, including radio reports and a few mildly heated email exchanges with fans of Scheffler. This all but confirms it.
01/02/10 – TE Tony Scheffler, who has just 31 receptions, voiced his displeasure about being demoted to the scout team by coach Josh McDaniels. “I’m a competitor and have worked extremely hard this offseason to be able to fight for a chance to make the playoffs,” Scheffler told The Denver Post. “Him taking that away doesn’t sit very well with me or some of my teammates.”
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by uncle finster on Feb 10, 2010 9:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
But,
isn’t that exactly how Joey Porter feels the situation went down? Porter feels he is the better option, Scheffler feels the same way.
Just playing devil’s advocate here. McDaniels has screwed the pooch too many times to really trust his instincts. Either way, I still take Watson because he has ZERO question marks as opposed to Daniels and Scheffler.
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by joel311 on Feb 10, 2010 4:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think Scheffler was defiant like J Pissy...
… he didn’t send replacements back off the field. He didn’t go to a basketball game when he was suppose to be home recovering. He didn’t get benched for a (cough) altercation with the Head Coach.
And at least Scheffler produces, unlike (cough) Mr. Pissy….
But I do see where you’re coming from.
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by Alpha6 on Feb 10, 2010 12:37 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I have to disagree,
sending replacements off has been proven to be rumor, that was not the case.
and yes he did get benched for his attitude towards the coach.
Scheffler did not produce last year, and has never been the player that Joey is, you don’t luck your way onto the all decade team, lol.
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by uncle finster on Feb 10, 2010 3:49 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
huh?
multiple beat writers said Porter DID send off his replacements, refusing to come off the field.
That wasn’t a rumor – unless I’m missing something
by Matty I on Feb 10, 2010 4:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
But that has been confirmed by nobody,
and has been refuted by every Dolphin that has been asked, I mean that was what we all thought he was benched for, that turned out to be false, It WAS reported by beat writers, it was also reported that he just waived everyone off the rest of the season, completely false.
He played about the same % as JT, 83% for Joey, 81% for JT. 755 snaps for Joey, 828 for JT.(Joey missed 2 games)
And I have watched these end of the year games again and he is on and off throughout.
Also IF he did do that and was allowed to do it over and over, Sparano should be fired, just sayin.
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by uncle finster on Feb 10, 2010 6:45 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i'm pretty sure Armando and one of the Sun-Sentinel writers confirmed after the season that the incident did indeed happen
regardless, why are we back onto Joey Porter? This was about Scheffler.
And if you HONESTLY think that Scheffler and Porter present the same issues, then I’d have to say you’re looking at things through “Peezy colored glasses.”
by Matty I on Feb 10, 2010 8:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
That incident was in 08,
and a lot of rumors this year, and I made the comparison to Joey, because there is a comparison to be made, and if you think there is no issue, then you have Scheffler glasses, see I can do that too, lol.
Scheffler was demoted for being over heard saying “can’t wait for Denver’s season to be over”, lol, that is really bad if it is indeed true, and I wouldn’t touch that player with a ten foot pole.
Scheffler also had more catches than Graham, and still he bitched, he will have to rotate here and is likely not going to get many more catches here either, so then he becomes our bitchboy, lol.
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by uncle finster on Feb 10, 2010 10:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I SEE what you both did there...lol!
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by Alpha6 on Feb 10, 2010 10:32 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I SEE what you did there, lol
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by uncle finster on Feb 10, 2010 10:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Truth be told,
Fasano’s year in 08 was arguably better than any that Scheffler has had.
Fasano 08; 34cths 454yds 13.4per 7TDs
Scheffler 07; 49cths 549yds 11.2per 5TDs
Scheffler had a decent 08 too, 40cths 645yds 16.3per 3TDs
He has been decent, but what if hes not happy with the rotation down here?, does he become a problem? seems like he just might.
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by uncle finster on Feb 10, 2010 4:02 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Alrighty then...
You have good points.
Those migranes must be your brain enlarging from all the good stuff you bring to the table… lol (hope ur better – been there).
So what is the team gaining with this guy? Then is Benjamin or Owen the ones to look at? Idk, I think TE is easy to fill. The draft would probably have better prospects….
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by Alpha6 on Feb 10, 2010 4:09 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I havent heard scheffler
blasting his teammates saying how he is the best on the team…..or am I missing something?
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by Dragon27az on Feb 10, 2010 1:26 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Joey didn't blast teammates either,
he just thinks hes better, same as Scheffler.
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by uncle finster on Feb 10, 2010 3:50 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
The only reason you saw those Joey Porter interviews
is because you are an avid Dophan. Have you been tracking Tony Scheffler interviews as well? I doubt it.
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by joel311 on Feb 10, 2010 4:51 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Fasano - OLine = Ouch
i feel like that our schemes sucked and really killed Fasanos production. I still kind of like him but Henning really needs to do a better job putting players in position to make plays. I also believe that we really need to stop to run this stupid play action passes on 3rd & a mile. nobody is gonna bait that. Henne also looks more conftable in shotgun and 3-4 wr sets. 2 wr, 2 te sets allow teams like the jets to blitz with everybody. if NO and IND showed you something then that you need to spread out opponents d’s.
Fasano had that horrable season opener. I still like him a lot. i think we should resign both Fasano + Haynos. Haynos wont be a problem, Fasano might ask for too much.
by Crowder 911 on Feb 10, 2010 4:32 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
almost missed the point
also toughed that our Oline needed way to often help from backs and te’s
OL really came a long and progressed but blitz pick up seems to me still a work in progress
by Crowder 911 on Feb 10, 2010 4:33 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
keep fasano
fasanos numbers would be alot better if they didn’t have to keep him in to block 90 percent of the time because of the miserable pass blocking of the offensive line. combine that with the fact that the tight ends recieving territory is basically between the hash marks and with ricky and ronnie running the ball so much the defenses have been clogging the middle taking away many of fasanos routes. fasano is a good tight end and can be a a much better thight end if the fins start to use him more. get him the ball over the middle and he can rumble with the best of them, if they do that he can be good for 75 to 80 catches and around 900 yards or better. fasano must remain a dolphin!!!!!!
by fasanofan on Feb 22, 2010 7:02 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
All those guy metioned are good but...
the drafts the way to go this year if the Phins want a cheap, talented TE and theres a couple that could be there for us in the later rounds like Jimmy Graham-The U, Dennis Pitta-BYU, Grocowski-Az,and those are guys that will be there in the 3rd-5th Rd.
by phinsfan777 on Feb 10, 2010 5:15 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Gotta say,
the FO has NOT been very good at picking TEs in the draft.
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by joel311 on Feb 10, 2010 4:52 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
well
Fasano in the 4th round is decent value, and they also drafted Jason Witten…..can’t say that I see your arguement.
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by Dragon27az on Feb 11, 2010 1:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
when your blocking is all that you have going for a TE,you suck...
Blocking can be taught,having natural pass catching skill in a big guy is rare and thats something that Fasano will never be.
by phinsfan777 on Feb 10, 2010 5:17 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
And Haynos suck at both,so i hope the Phins are looking for another TE.
by phinsfan777 on Feb 10, 2010 5:18 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
I hope so too!
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by texascowpunk on Feb 10, 2010 5:19 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Gotta admit
everyone seems to love Haynos but i don’t see whats so special except his size….
by Red Dog on Feb 10, 2010 10:52 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
It's 100% his size.
If the guy can learn to catch, he will be an amazing weapon. And, his blocking has to get better too…especially for his size.
But, based on size alone, the potential is amazing.
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by Mosul_DolFan on Feb 10, 2010 6:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Draft Hernandez or Graham.
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by Kdog92 on Feb 10, 2010 6:39 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Or scheffler...get him.
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by Kdog92 on Feb 10, 2010 6:40 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Everyone keeps saying...
Hernandez, Graham and Scheffler. As much as I like the idea of a catch first TE, I don’t think the coaching staff likes that idea too much. If you are a TE and can’t block you can’t make this roster and I don’t think any of these guys can block.
by swankel on Feb 10, 2010 9:10 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Bye bye Fasano
We don’t need to draft a #1 Wr if we get a good pass catching athletic TE. Would like to draft one of the better TE’s or get Watson. Scheff gets hurt too much for my liking.
by Phins 08 AFC East Champs on Feb 10, 2010 9:34 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Daniels would be awesome, but Houston's not giving him up.
Scheffler, I tink Denver will tender him high, and then look for a lot to give him up, or else just use the “See, we tried,” line and bring him back. Either way, I don’t see us landing him.
I like Fasano and Haynos. Fasano showed us in 2008 what he could do, and yes, 2009 was disappointing, but he could get back into 2008 form. Yes, I know that’s COULD…but why not use him for another year, and draft a young TE? As for Haynos, the guy is too much of a freak to give up on. Keep him for another year and let him develop.
As for other FA TEs, I say we go after that Randy McMichael guy. For some reason I could see him in a Dolphins jersey. Wait…..
lol.
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by Mosul_DolFan on Feb 10, 2010 10:06 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Houston will probably only offer him a 1 year deal.
They also need to sign DeMeco Ryans which will probably be a bigger priority…. I would think anyway.
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by Fr8Train on Feb 10, 2010 10:54 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
TE
Our TE’s r terrible!!! Anybody would be an upgrade over what we have right now.
by SEN on Feb 10, 2010 10:46 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Other TEs
I think the Dolphins will also look Dickson from Oregon and McCoy from USC. I think Dickson is a better blocker, but both are good receiving TEs.
by The Earl on Feb 10, 2010 11:32 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Hernandez
Dont bother getting a FA this guy will be the answer he can block and is one hell of a catcher the kid is a monster if i was the person picking the draft players hernandez will be our answer
talk about spreading the D take a look at his highlights in college the kid is amazing and he is fast as well.
by Shaun B on Feb 10, 2010 12:11 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
When you say take a look at the highlights,
you should post a link. Otherwise, people will forget to look him up by the time they read the rest of the comments. I know I click a link immediately if I see one.
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by joel311 on Feb 10, 2010 4:55 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Here is one highlight video i seen
This one is ok shows him breaking some takes his footwork and his hands take a look
by Shaun B on Feb 10, 2010 7:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Looks pretty beastly.
I had to mute it though lol
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by joel311 on Feb 10, 2010 11:05 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't like any of the Tight Ends Miami has at the moment...
… they didn’t do squat..!
Miami better do something…. they have to.
Scheffler looks like the best option, but how many teams are eyeing him too..?
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about 31 of them
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by Dragon27az on Feb 10, 2010 1:28 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
So, from what I am hearing in all the comments is:
The Dolphins need to upgrade/draft/sign FAs at the following positions:
TE
WR
NT
ILB
OLB
S
RB
QB – the #2/3 spot
I’ve heard a few calls for a new RT and an upgrade at CB for the Nickel as well…
So of the 22 positions on the field (not counting STs), we need 10 – almost half. Basically, I guess we as fans want the entire team gutted and rebuilt. Man, I didn’t realize we were that far off.
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by Mosul_DolFan on Feb 10, 2010 12:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
That's about right...
Ferguson, Taylor, Porter, and Crowder may not be back in 2010, so we will need to address those positions. I’d like to see Dansby and McClain anchoring the middle for the next few years. I think most of the defensive positions will be addressed through the draft and we’ll get a WR through a trade. RB, in my opinion, is the least need of those you’ve listed. We could use upgrade at the TE spot, but not at the expense of those other positions.
by The Earl on Feb 10, 2010 1:15 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
where is crowder going?
they just resigned him last offseason….I highly doubt he is going anywhere unless he is dealt for a pick, but I dont see that happening
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by Dragon27az on Feb 10, 2010 1:29 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
RB the least need?
How about QB? :P
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by joel311 on Feb 10, 2010 4:56 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know...
The way the fans here want to crucify Pat White…WB may be a bigger need.
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by Mosul_DolFan on Feb 10, 2010 5:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He was talking about the backup spots...
Its true its not much of a need, but our RB situation is in better order than the backup QB spot. Is Pennington coming back? Can White be the backup guy? Thigpen? No… RB is probably the strongest position on the team behind the O-Line.
by The Earl on Feb 11, 2010 9:44 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
... that's funny right there...
I mean…… really….?
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by Alpha6 on Feb 10, 2010 2:18 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Was it just me or did anyone feel that Fasano started doing pretty good near the end of the season.
I know he was bothered by a hip inury too. I wondere how long that was going on. Also he never had a chance to get into any kind of rythm with Henne because he was always kept back to block. I believe we keep Fasano another year and save our drafts picks for something important like a Defensive player and or WR.
by D0lphins4Life on Feb 10, 2010 12:35 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Agree
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by Mosul_DolFan on Feb 10, 2010 12:44 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
yep
that and Henne started to learn that you dont have to cannon the little 5 yard under routes
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by Dragon27az on Feb 10, 2010 1:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
But if you can throw the ball through a wall...
Shouldn’t you throw it as hard as you can ever time?
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by Mosul_DolFan on Feb 10, 2010 2:23 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
... yeah, that worked out well for Peyton on a couple of throws...
… especially, that last one at the goal line… ;-]
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by Alpha6 on Feb 10, 2010 4:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
DAH...MUST THROW BALL HARD....MUST KILL RECEIVER.....
MUST ROCKET BALL.
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by Mosul_DolFan on Feb 10, 2010 5:30 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
bring in tony
Scheffler has been rather impressive in Denver and i think he would be a great fit im miami, but im a big jimmy graham fan..either or would make me really happy.
by wildfishes on Feb 10, 2010 12:38 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Too many wagon jumpers on here. First it's LB then WR NT TE. LIke Mosul said were not going to be able to adresse all these problems in one year.
IMO – I say we pick up either Mclain if Denver doesn’t take him first. If not take a chance on Dez. Other than that trade down and take the best linebacker available.(spike, Kindle or even Weatherspoon)
by D0lphins4Life on Feb 10, 2010 12:48 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
of course we can't address them all
who said we can? the point is to figure out which can/should be addressed now
by Matty I on Feb 10, 2010 4:54 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I think the bigger point, though Matty, is
As soon as any post is made about an FAs or draft prospects, the masses seem to suddenly swing to that being our biggest need ever.
I agree with D0lphins that we do seem to be bandwagon jumping a lot over all of this.
But, I agree also that there is NO way we can fill all our needs this offseason.
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by Mosul_DolFan on Feb 10, 2010 5:33 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
right
it comes down to value
we could really use a #1 receiver. but at what price? it might be better value to upgrade TE, for example. (not really since I don’t see a real opportunity to upgrade the TE spot…just an example).
by Matty I on Feb 10, 2010 5:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Very true
Especially since this team still wants to be a power running team with a great defense. If we can use FA and the draft to upgrade in those positions, we will be better off than spending everythign we have for 1 WR.
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by Mosul_DolFan on Feb 10, 2010 6:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Isnt Vernon Davis also a RFA?
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by Dragon27az on Feb 10, 2010 1:19 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
... the whole damn NFL is restricted free agents...
Everyone here is a restricted free agent….
I mean, what the hell?
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by Alpha6 on Feb 10, 2010 2:20 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not.
I’m unrestricted.
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by Mosul_DolFan on Feb 10, 2010 2:22 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I hear you're a tight end too...
LOL!
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by Alpha6 on Feb 10, 2010 4:12 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, let's just say it's not been loosened...
Or…ummm…let’s talk about something else.
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by Mosul_DolFan on Feb 10, 2010 5:31 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Although a TE is a yound quarterback's best friend
i don’t see this as such a pressing need. Perhaps If a guy such as Vernon Davis was available, however none of the guys listed above could instantly transform our aerial attack into something instantly special. I would focus on bringing back Fasano, making sure he rids himself of his Adrian Peterson-like ball handling skills next year and focus on a big WR or a screen back such as a CJ Spiller to help take the heat off Henne.
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by BSerious72 on Feb 10, 2010 1:40 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
draft
bring back fasano and haynos for another year, use top 2 picks in 2011 for wr and te
by paul wall on Feb 10, 2010 1:45 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
so teams can score 50 points on us every single game next year?
I sure dont want to see that happen
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by Dragon27az on Feb 10, 2010 1:58 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
He said in 2011!
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by texascowpunk on Feb 10, 2010 2:13 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
maybe I should take my own advice
and read the entire post
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by Dragon27az on Feb 10, 2010 2:19 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
hahahahahahah!
I needed that.
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by Alpha6 on Feb 10, 2010 2:21 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Ive made that mistake too. It happens.
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by texascowpunk on Feb 10, 2010 3:24 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
chill dragon
dude ive been crying for mcclaain and kindle with the first 2 picks..im all for defense this draft…save the tight end worries and more ol in 2011 !!!
by paul wall on Feb 10, 2010 3:40 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
actually
TE is not a worry of my own, I work out…LOL
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by Dragon27az on Feb 11, 2010 12:15 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Daniels value should be lowered due to his injury history.
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by Patssuck456 on Feb 10, 2010 2:40 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Would be nice to get Daniels
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by dolfan7171 on Feb 10, 2010 3:00 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Owen Daniels injury leaves too many questions marks,
let’s just go with the sure thing in Ben Watson. It would be real nice to take a key player away from a division rival, especially the one that snagged Wes Welker. Wilfork + Watson = good night Patsies.
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by joel311 on Feb 10, 2010 4:41 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
If Ronnie can come back from an ACL
why wouldn’t Daniels?
I’m just sayin’
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by Fr8Train on Feb 10, 2010 5:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Because not every player comes back from an ACL.
That’s why there are question marks. Sure, he COULD, but he also might NOT. IE… question marks.
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by joel311 on Feb 10, 2010 11:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
If my pocket 5s suck out on pocket Aces,
I don’t presume to think it will happen every time.
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by joel311 on Feb 10, 2010 11:07 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Nobody in Denver is happy
so I wouldn’t point at the player, but rather the coach. However, I don’t see us giving up anything significant for a RFA, at least not in the way of draft picks. Supposedly this is a deep draft, so I don’t see the Trifecta giving up any draft picks for anything less than a #1 WR. Biggest priorities have to be WR, NT, and ILB to start ALONGSIDE Crowder, not in leu of. I think after that we are better off than fans give us credit for. We were a tough catch and a bad call away from beating both Super Bowl teams and making the playoffs.
by GoPhish13 on Feb 10, 2010 6:47 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
the name owen danies puts a smile on my face :)
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by finzrule on Feb 10, 2010 7:13 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
but this is a good year to draft a TE
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by finzrule on Feb 10, 2010 7:14 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
hmmmm, lol...
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by Alpha6 on Feb 10, 2010 7:17 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm satisfied with Fasano
He started out poorly but regained his 08 form in the 2nd half of the yr. We need a backup though. I miss David Martin like hell
by kazam92 on Feb 10, 2010 7:37 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
David Martin was awesome.
It sucked that he got injured during the offseason :(
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by joel311 on Feb 10, 2010 11:08 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
I say we draft us one and sign one of the current ones we have
Fasano can go, he is asking for big time bucks, and more than likely pull a Crowder,“I want to be paid what I am worth…3 days later…. I want to be somewhere Im comfortabole” BS
Haynos can stay and we should draft a guy for his catching ability. It will give Chad another option to throw to.
by esco6781 on Feb 11, 2010 7:29 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
TE or WR
I think we should trade Joey Porter and Haynos to SF for Vernon Davis or we should trade Joey Porter and Ted Ginn for Brandon Marshall. Also trade Thygpin or Pennington to Cleveland for Shaun Rogers and Take McClean with our first pick in the draft. Next take the OLB from Michigan with our 2nd pick if he is available.
by earl3321 on Feb 11, 2010 1:58 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
I would love Owen Daniels
but i dont think that will happen…in fact i don’t think we will get any new TE, I am expecting to keep the same crop we had this year, there is not a ton to upgrade this year
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by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Feb 12, 2010 7:12 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
get off fasanos back
the big boy is a good tight end . like i’ve said before if he didn’t have to stay in and pass block 90 percent of the time because of the miserable offensive line you would see some real good numbers out of him. combine that with the fact that the tight ends recieving terreitor y is basically between the hash marks and with rickey and ronnie running the ball up the middle defenses have been clogging the middle to stop the run thereby taking away most of fasanos routes. hes capable of giving us 80 receptions and about 900 yards if we use him the right way and get him the ball. he’s a real bull we really need to get him more involved offensively !!!!!!!
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