Joey Porter wants out of Miami
by Matty I on Feb 1, 2010 6:59 PM EST
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PrintWhere there's smoke, there's fire. That's what I said about this whole Joey Porter saga that has been playing out. Now we have confirmation that Porter wants out of Miami. Appearing on the Jim Rome show, Porter said he wasn't happy with his role in 2009 and wants to be traded. Some of what he said is as follows:
"I won't accept it no more, you know what I mean? I accepted it last year because I'm a team guy. I just want to play, have fun and win football games."
``When you're winning, all of this stuff is (swept) away. But after seeing how last year went, asking me to come back and play that role again, I can honestly say I won't come back to do that. I can't be happy about coming back playing that role.''
(when asked about being traded)
"I mean, it would just kind of be the smart thing to do. `Why keep a guy there that you want to make a role player? You're paying me enough money as a starter. So why pay me all that money and make me a role player""If you make me a role player, it's saying you really don't want me, right? I mean, I just gave you 17.5 sacks last year."
Wow - have a nice life, Joey.
Porter also confirmed that he did have a chat with Tony Sparano after the season. And Sparano stuck to his guns, telling Joey he's "not going to let you stop the development and growth of my young players.''
With Porter's roster bonus of $1 million due before the league year begins and trading can occur, it's likely the Dolphins will release Porter rather than pay him the million in hopes of trading him for something...anything.
Hat tip LeftCoastFinFan
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Nice Sparano quote
"Faster than a speeding walrus" -Me.
"Violence is not the answer, it's the question; the answer is YES!!!"
please title this "Joey requests 1 million before his release"
Because that’s basically what he’s saying. He knows he has low trade value if any and realizes he’s going to get released. So now he can try and drum up some interest in hopes of getting that 1 million. I guess in his mind the Dolphins weren’t shopping him and thats most likely because they don’t need to make a call to know he isn’t worth anything.
This comes off as desperate to me.
by special agent wildcat on Feb 1, 2010 7:07 PM EST reply actions
hat tip to Lefty lol
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LOL Just think how Parcells and gang feels. Parcells is not a fan of players that a. bitch and
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oh shit! whos gonna have a good game vs. the bills in september now?!?!!
17.5 sacks last year? no…2 years ago…and 16 of them came in the first ten game..then you turned into eddie moore.
can we have our money back for 2007? since that year you couldnt tackle a hooker with a fist full of 100’s?
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realistically, what kind of value could we get in a trade, when most of the league knows that we’ll probably cut him? Is he worth anything? Will a team want him that bad that they’ll give up a pick? Or will they wait and try to sign him…
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by Little Nicky 21 on Feb 1, 2010 7:23 PM EST up reply actions
Exactly!
Yes Joey you gave us 17-1/2 sacks the year before last. But darn bud, you followed it up with a pretty mediocre campaign in terms of the pass rush, and were even worse at defending the run.
Anyway, everyone in the entire league knows now – as if they didn’t before – that Porter doesn’t want to be here. So now who in their right mind turns around, knowing that a player is likely to be cut, and offers you a draft pick for him?
It reminds me of when the Texans traded for Matt Schaub a few years ago but….supposedly figured they could then trade David Carr. ha ha, everyone knew Carr was a dead man walking – as far as being in a texan’s uniform – so of course, nobody offered anything, Carr was released, and the rest is history.
It’ll be the same way in all likelihood with Porter – plain old business, that’s all there is to it.
the only thing I'm hoping
is somebody wants him, and is worried that another team will snag him in FA. If we can create some rumors of deals with teams, maybe one of those teams that actually is looking to sign him will make a deal. We gotta try and build some interest, even it means creating competition that isn’t there.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Feb 1, 2010 7:44 PM EST up reply actions
@$$hole...pardon the language.
IF you didn’t want to play the role, why didn’t you leave at the beginning of the season.
I don’t hink he’ll be traded, nobody wants a cocky, loud mouth, on their team.
Good riddance, is Earthwake time!
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When can teams trade again...during FA, or right after the SB?
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OH OH OH!
Send him the KC and get Bowe, or Parcells will beat up his son-in-law!
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I really think we have a lot of talent in OLB!
that we are fine. Just some didn’t get a chance ( why would we just cut roth if we didn’t)
Watch Belicheat get him
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I wouldn't mind that
I don’t think he helps them at all lol. Junior Seau is probably more effective at this point.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Feb 1, 2010 7:39 PM EST up reply actions
See ya Joey....
We have all the Peezy we need….
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Good call! We still have our Peezy!
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i guess this means we will keep jt
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by jojo phin fan on Feb 1, 2010 7:49 PM EST via mobile reply actions
maybe
we still have wake, anderson, moses,walden and most likely a draft pick (or two)
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by Davone_Is_BessT on Feb 1, 2010 7:51 PM EST up reply actions
Let''s just f***ing cut him
like immediately, i don’t want this trash on my team…nobody is going to trade for him, mainly cause he sucks now and everyone else knows that we want to get rid of him so they will just wait for us to cut him, but we have to get him out immediately
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by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Feb 1, 2010 8:14 PM EST reply actions
Don't hold sir. Tell us how you feel!
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haha
had a rough day and seeing this multi millionaire bitching because he gets paid too much is not what i need to see right now lol
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by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Feb 1, 2010 8:32 PM EST up reply actions
I hear you man! You know what will make you feel better!
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yea i think i know where u are going with this?
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by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Feb 1, 2010 8:40 PM EST up reply actions
I figured at least you and I knew.
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Enough said!
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hahaha don't worry
me and my roommates have it in our plans for tonight lol
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by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Feb 1, 2010 8:45 PM EST up reply actions
I figured!
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Shhhh!
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... well, the roomies will be taken care of again...
(wonder if he packs lunches)
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LOL I hear thats one happy group of roommates. Of course I have no idea what that means.
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oh yea i pack them lunch
;)
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by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Feb 2, 2010 10:25 PM EST up reply actions
Here's a video to cheer everyone up over this lose...oh wait
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0DQufOPERM&feature=related
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We'll take him
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Couple Things Dolphans
1) Maybe, just maybe, this belies some very serious rifts existing on this team. Maybe some of the vets (I even detected some strain in Y. Bell’s comments on Aquavision). I think that somewhere some trust has been lost on this team and it isn’t just Joey Porter.
2) Maybe, just maybe, a guy like Porter who is used to the incredible fan base of the Steelers is bored of Miami’s pitiful game day fan showing. Seriously. It’s lame. There was a lot of lame BS at our home games this year, both front office created and fan related.
Some players might rather play before a packed crowd than to a half capacity crowd of quiet church mice.
3) Peezy gave us a couple of good years and now he wants out. I say F’m in the end, because he has an overinflated conception of his own worth but seriously people… Even in 07, which was a very down year for him due to injury, he was still one of the better players on the team.
If it wasn’t for Taylor (a guy a lot of people ran out of town in 08) and Porter’s play in that Baltimore game the Phins would have the ignominy of being the first team to go 0-16.
If this means we can keep Taylor then this is awesome. Porter has never been half of the player JT has been/is. I say pay him the 1 million and trade him for a sixth to someone like KC.
Moving on.
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Wow.
That was the sloppiest, angriest post I’ve ever made. :)
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by The Phinisher on Feb 1, 2010 9:14 PM EST up reply actions
you mean if it wasnt Greg Camarillo we wouldve been 0 and 16 right?
And I refuse to thank Porter for that. If Cam hadnt effed everything up we woud have never been in that position in the first place.
But I agree. Let em walk. He’s an asshole anyways. Ill be so glad when hes gone…he gave our team a bad rep
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Porter and Taylor
Played immense in that game. Porter had some huge tackles for loss in the run game and Taylor blocked a field goal. I know Greg caught the big one, but the defense won the game.
But yeah, see yah Peezy.
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by The Phinisher on Feb 1, 2010 10:43 PM EST up reply actions
He did some great things for us
but now his time is done. He’s not only a headache, he doesn’t have it anymore. It happens. It’s a young people’s game.
... and his cat scratch fever...?
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This is bullsh*t, seriously...
Why do we hate Joey now? Why do we have to F’ him? Why does everyone jump one everyones bandwagon?? What Joey believes is that he is an every down LB and should be utilized in every defensive play. Sparano knows Porter is getting old and wants to develop his other LBs and thats fine but Porter isnt dissing the Dolphins and/or the organization so why are we dissing him? He just wants to play every down. Sparano whats to develop. Its good to have a player that stands up for his team and maybe even talk a little trash to get into the other teams head. He was the voice of the Dolphins. When an argument occured on and/or off the field, who was the first to come running out to defend our organization?? JOEY DID!!! Who is the person that PUMPS our team up before the games? JOEY DID!!! People dont perform when they are not happy. On the field, at work, at home, in a relationship, whatever. He wasnt happy in 09, shit happens. When we went 11-5 everyone loved him, now you want him to go to the Pats or Jets and send him to hell??? Joey next to CP10 and Ronnie was the reason we went 11-5, FACT. Joey, thank you for everything and having our teams back for the last couple of years. You guys are so quick to hate on a player.
I agree with everything you said with the exception of how hes going about dealing with this.
I think that most of us are upset in the classless way that he has handled himself in the media in regards to wanting out. I know other players do this as well but it does not make it right and I bet if you were to check with any of those other teams pages their fans are not happy when their players pull this. Just my opinion.
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by texascowpunk on Feb 1, 2010 10:59 PM EST up reply actions
I AGREE
Would we rather have players that sit on the bench and are happy there? A huge part of football is confidence and feeling you are the best at what you do. If you don’t want on the field every play, get out. Its the same way it drives me crazy when people talk about receivers who call for the ball. A receivers job is to catch the football and make plays. If the ball is not thrown to them then they cant do their job. Every receiver in this league(except for Ted Ginn) wants the ball. If they don’t then go hand out gatorade or wash the teams towels.
Joey is far from out of gas. He was hurt. Id like to see 10% of the people in here calling for his head sacking the Qb at 32 with an injured hamstring. Not to mention he still had a decent number of sacks and the team overall was one of the best in the league at sacking the QB. I can think of at least 6+ other times when Joey was right there when someone else sacked the Qb. With a healthy hamstring he might very well have had the extra burst to get those himself and maybe finish with 13-15 sacks and everyone in here would be praising him. Joey has never been fantastic against the run, thats nothing new, hes a specialist and damn good one.
Joey knows he can still play and he should voice his opinion and he should be allowed the opportunity to play or go elsewhere. Everyone gets mad at the man for speaking his mind. Thats his right as an american and he didnt insult anyone or say anything even remotely innapropriate.
Personally if Mike Nolan can use him, bring him back, if he cant then let him go. Ive always liked Joey, hes not sorry for who he is and there is a lot to be said about that. At least at some points in his career hes backed up what he says unlike one of our other loud mouthed linebackers…cough…Channing…cough. Is Joey perfect? No. Is he neccesarily the perfect fit for Miami? Probably not, but he is a confident strong willed guy with something to prove and a lot of time to heal. If he goes I hope its to the NFC, I dont want to see him, especially twice a year.
My opinion for what its worth.
Porter has no trade value
He’s old, he’s a pain in the butt, and his production fell off a cliff last year. If you were a fan of another NFL team, would you want your team to send a pick for this guy? As a FA, sure, why not, but if you’re favorite team sent a pick for this guy, you’d want the head of whoever did it on a platter.
Not going to happen.
I dont know about the value...
he said he was use as a roll player and he didnt like it. With his mouth he can convinse some ppl that thats why his numbers went down last year. He might have some value after all. ; )
I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(22 years and counting)
I'm not gonna blatantley turn on the guy.
we all loved him when he produced. However, if he doesn’t want to stay, let him go. If we learned anything from ricky’s past, we learned that you can not make a guy stay and produce if he is not wanting to be there.
2009 was like picking up a fat chick, You had a little fun, but you don't necessarily want to see it again.
I just think Porter's being short sighted.
If there is any position on the team that will benefit from Mike Nolan coming to town it is Porter’s position. And in a contract year no less. He is throwing away millions with this wanting to be traded talk. No one will sign him for what the Dolphins are paying him if they release him. The only reason I can think why he is putting this out there in the press (besides not being able to just stop talking when asked a trap question) is that he is hearing Wake’s footsteps. Porter probably knows or thinks Wake is going to be good and take his spot.
Right on.
I’m not mad at the guy. He’s always had a mouth. Now it’s only hurting himself & his agent.
Footballs smarts don’t always equate to smarts in general.
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trade him to oakland. Davis likes to gamble. Take a 5th. rd. Then wait for sports center highlights of Porter telling Cable where to go.
Now that would be a fight that I would like to see. I bet Cable does not break Porters jaw!
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Hey ya'll
“The gloves IS OFF” [sic] – Joey Porter
I normally don’t slag off on a guy, but JP keeps making himself look worse & worse with this latest tantrum.
Boldin, whose name keeps coming up as trade bait for us, has made it known he was unhappy in Arizona without coming across as a spoiled 4 year old boy yelling for Daddy, ala Porter.
If what Porter alleges is true – that he was basically benched for a game because he went out for dinner rather than staying home – then it could have been discussed in a way that was a lot more sensible & would have garnered him some empathy. We could have then talked about what is reasonable for a coach to expect & what isn’t.
Now at this point, none of it matters because all these interviews accomplish is show he simply wants out & wants to cry.
It's about authority too....
Joey does NOT do well with authority. Example: going to a Heats game and eat a hot dog… Example: quote… “But after seeing how last year went, asking me to come back and play that role again, I can honestly say I won’t come back to do that.”
He thinks he’s the boss…. but he’s not. Was told he’s not. And he doesn’t like it.
I accepted it last year because I’m a team guy.
Really Joey? Really?
Get the hell outta my office!
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LOL Is that what Sparano said to him?
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I'm sure it does not help his cause when a guy like Taylor comes in and says I will do what
ever I can to help the team win. Too bad some of his class never rubbed off on Porter. Even if JT is not brought back this year he will always be one of my all time favorites for not only the way he played the game but the way he always handled himself with such class.
"I hope you know a lot more than you believe in"-Gram Parsons
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
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It makes him look very very bad....
there are always good….and, also, bad ways of dealing with problems. Porter has chosen the worst way of dealing with it, creating no empathy for whatever complaints (legit or not) he may have had.
Now, you can be sure the vast majority of fans will be happy to see him go. Sad because he was a big part of our division title in ‘08, but I have to say, he forced this divorce & so he’ll rightly be blamed for it.
True. He could have resolved this issue without airing his dirty laundry in public.
I actually find the whole think kinda sad.
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I wonder who's gonna lead the team "pump-up chants" before game time next year...
I vote Hartline…. heh heh heh
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Maybe Henne will be more vocal not that he knows the offense a lot better. I think as a first
year starter that sometimes thats all your thinking about. I cant imagine how much that kid has going through his head the morning of a game.
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