Miami Dolphins: What's to be gained by playing Chad Henne? Start Tyler Thigpen.

I agree though

Henne is garbage and has no reason to still start. Lets let Thiggy start and see what hes got. Hell if he does well maybe someone will throw a nice draft pick at us for him

Sparano needs this win. If Tony hasn’t lost his job already, he wants to do everything he can to save it. Since Henne has the most playing time, Tony thinks he gives him the best chance to pick up a Win.

Thats the only reason I can think for not playing TT.

Tony should’ve kept to that script of TT 2nd and CP 3rd, he screwed himself my not doing so. TT would’ve been far more prepared to show what he has if he wasn’t stuck 3rd string behind a washed up CP. (Yeah I said it, washed up).

Imagine if Tony would’ve kept TT 2nd string and put him in for his “spark”. Not only would we have been able to see what Henne had, but also what TT had to see if we wanted to resign him for next year. We would’ve continued with the rebuilding process with Henne failing (like he did), we would’ve looked at another young QB that possibly (a long shot though) could’ve been out future. And maybe the Bears game wouldn’t had been a disaster.

But noooo, he (like many on here) wanted CP back behind Henne to pressure him and be able to “save” us. Just another bonehead decision made by Sparano and another reason he should be gone at years end.

Henne needs a better oc, he has weapons with,marshall,bess and fasano, But henning will not open up the playbook., Plain and simple. Every one need to see that. This offense never throws down field.

is still boring, checkdown after checkdown, 2 wide, never throwing down filed, no 4 and 5 wide wr sets. Plain old fashion Joe Paterno style washed up football style of play.

I like thigpen and you guys think starting thigpen is a joke? come on now. When he has elite receivers to throw to(Bess, Fasano, Marshall) , he can do good. Also reason why he was 1-6 as a starter was stated in the post, the DEFENSE gave up 27.5 points a game while the offense with thigpen put 21.5 points a game. Defense this year gives up 19 points compared to offense that puts up 16 a game with henne. We have seen enough of Henne, start Thigpen. The fact that Thigpen is a threat both with his legs and passing ability makes feel that he should be given a shot. I honestly could not judge him from chicago game.

IT DOES NOT MATTER, HENNING IS THE PROBLEM

Some of us just would like to see Tyler have a shot to show us his talents and see if he can help us win games. Even under the worst circumstances (Chicago), his stats weren’t the worst we have seen this year. Give him a slightly better OL and see what he can do.
 No one is saying he is the answer but, he might be a step in the right direction.

I think you said this same line about 4 times:

The one season TT played for most of the year in KC, he racked up 2608 passing yards, 386 rushing yards, 18 TDs against 12 INTs for a QB rating of 76%.

Some may figure that a year with Tyler throwing you the ball that you may have a let down year. 2008- 4th best year in yards (1058 yds), 3rd in receptions ( 96 catches), T-2nd in TDs (10 tds).

Yes, he is worth a look at least.

in preview that some people here don’t analyse information at all and when they see something they don’t like they just ran to get your neck lol Welcome to the team. I also have to say I will no longer participate here in this site, there is just to many haters and nonsense talkers. Just a few moments back I lose it and play their game talking trash and well that’s not the reason I came here. So I’m done here. Many of you would be thankfull about this and that’s ok. I just got to say I never wrote with intension to ofend someone except when I was defending my self from the dogs (dogs you know who you are lol) Never the less I wish you all Happy Holidays and Happy new year lets hope the best for this team. Maybe we see again in other chat, see ya :)

But, when your OC runs a 1930’s style offense you will not produce. Or O line was banged up all year long, and Henne had to get rid of the ball because the protection broke down. I still would have taken Jake Long in the draft over Matt Ryan, the draft is crap shoot, you never no how a player will pan out. If you dont have protection or give your QB options, he will be consitently runing for dear life, or he will get his ass koncked out. Imagine what kind of year Henne and marshal could have had if Ginn was still there!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyPtJF-IgPc

That’s going down field, wich we never do

because some ppl will always think they can make chicken salad out of chicken shit so if we don’t play him and leave them still wondering we can maybe get a 3rd but if we play him we’ll be lucky to recoup that 5th.

We have seen Henne through several games under a bad OC and in a bad situation, and he has not played consistently well. I don’t think any of his “supporters” can deny that. Let’s assume for argument’s sake that the offseason and working with a new OC (and QB coach perhaps) would get him more prepared to take the next step to better and more consistently good play.

My question is does anyone think one more week in this tattered system is going to really make that big of a difference. I get that game time experience is important, but is game 27 going to be all that different from game 26? Thigpen on the other hand, while he would also be in this system, would get a bit more game time (he has much less) and would have another chance to show us that he may have real ability. Hell, if he can succeed in this offense… and if he fails, so be it.

In sum, we won’t learn anything new about Henne this week even IF he has the potential to improve and be a legit starter. We may learn something more about thigpen.

enough said.

Sparano needs at least one good game out of Henne to hang his hat on and maybe save his job.

I think the person that was hurt most by CP10 inj this year other then Pennington was Sparano. He really wanted Henne to work out, he gave him the starting Job this year, didn’t flinch when he didn’t look good in preseason, looked weak in the two wins to start and was inconsistent after that. He finally had to pull the plug and put CP10 in, but at least he should make the playoffs and perhaps give Henne another shot at starter next season. Instead CP10 shoulder gave out, and the season rested on Henne being better then he has been. Henne showed flashes and then got even worse and now looks like a long shot to be a starter in this league. Sparano’s job is likely gone. His last hope is we play NE strong and Henne doesn’t look like a bust again. Starting TT would scream failure as a HC.

Starting TT is the right decision for the Dolphins and its future, however its not for Sparano’s future.

I am not an expert in football. Some people look at the D and can tell you with certainty that it is a cover-2 etc. etc. I can’t really do that unless someone explains it to me slowly. So, I respect that I could be wrong about this and that people really have the expertise to watch the games from home and just know that a QB has got “it” or hasn’t based on relatively little experience.

back when the season began many of us were excited by the potential for Henne to do great things. True he had some issues, but many fans thought QB was a settled position barring injury. To be honest, I was not in that camp. I was not sold on Henne from my armchair. Like most things, if you had asked me if I thought he would succeed I would have said “like I have a fukcing clue. Do you think I am nostrafucking damus?” I certainly hoped he would succeed. Some though were already certain he was Kyle Boller 2.0 and some of those in that camp were excited by thigpen. The personal arguments then ensued and as Henne increasingly failed to show us enough improvement, some of those voices got louder and the responses got nastier (and the responses to the responses got nastier and more defensive) until the chicago game whether fair or not. And now that many people, once hopeful and many “certain” of his success, have written Henne off, those who supported Thigpen are vindicated and want their due.

My opinion, we are largely a bunch of armchair fans pretending to be coaches and GMs. Moreover, we don’t have game film (Teevo is NOT gamefilm) nor do we have the time necessarily to truly do the work of breaking down thegame and scouting alternatives. Now I could be wrong about this. Just because I am not an expert doesn’t mean those more talented and knowledgable in the ways of the gridiron can’t see something deeper in what limited information we have. Still, I have a hard time believing that anyone here truly knew that Henne would have a relatively poor season. By that I mean were they really able to consciously, intellectually and cognitively understand that Henne didn’t have it and why beyond some stats playing and primarily a highly subjective gut feeling we call “the eye test”? I believe that some people have strong intuitions which happen to be right sometimes, but the self-righteous attitiude and argumentativeness that comes along with perhaps having been right about something you could never really have proven is a little ridiculous.

This goes to “both sides” of the debate, in particular those who decided to act disrespectfully to each other. I don’t believe any of you had particularly good reason to know what would happen one way or another beyond your intuition. If your intuition was right here, good for you. You might have guessed right once (assuming Henne doesn’t start next year and show us that he was in fact suffering the sophomore slump) but who cares? Your ability to guess being vindicated doesn’t amount to much. To be clear I am not saying not to guess, and not to debate, but to get personal about it and to believe for a moment that your good guess gives you something over those who guessed differently is just dumb.

Rant over.

agreed

Thigpen is a FA and if you wish to keep you want to keep the price down. A big win over NE in NE would only drive up the asking price for a QB who probably isn’t on a lot of peoples radar at this moment.

Yeah I said it give the kid a shot. He might surprise most people. Brandstater is a smart kid an he got better every year in college under 4 different OCs. I’ve seen him play in person through his years in Fresno. It’s worth a shot.

drop back 10 and punt……I don’t really think one last game against a team that’s clinched everything it can clinch will tell us anything about anybody….there has been ample time during practice, mini-camps, preseason, etc. for Thigpen to show his stuff. While I’m not enamored with our coaching staff right now, I will have to at least think that they have seen enough of players in practice to start the guys who give us the best chance to win.

Sparano is as guilty of the offense failures as Henning is. Remember, he is the HEAD COACH and has the authority to override plays called if he doesn’t agree with them.

Authority AND Responsibility to DO it. =)

I’ve been saying this since last year after he came in the Pittsburgh game and immediately threw a 50 yard TD pass on the money. He comes in against Tennessee and runs the show so smooth you’d think his name was Bob Barker, the only thing missing was some old ladies giving him a kiss on the cheek and bidding $1. He’s way more fun to watch than Henne is, his interviews are awesome, just throw him in and let him make plays. Like it says, what have we got to lose?

It looks awfully similar to how his tenure in Miami is shaping up as well. Good enough to get the coaching staff to believe in him but, not good enough to win the games to matter. At least he has found a way to be consistent.