Quick Take: Complete fourth quarter failure as Dolphins fall to Lions
by Matty I on Dec 26, 2010 4:33 PM EST
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PrintA ten point lead with ten minutes to play - that's what the Dolphins had at home against the Lions. But that wasn't enough, as the Dolphins surrender 17 unanswered points to fall to the Lions 34-27 in their final home game of 2010.
As usual, the full recap post will be tomorrow morning. Three quick thoughts are below:
- Everything was going relatively well for Chad Henne - until that dreaded fourth quarter, that is. As he's done all reason long, Henne folded like a cheap suit in the game's most important quarter. I know all of the Henne supporters (and there are still some based on what people have been tweeting at me) will talk about the receivers falling down and bad play-calling. Those are also problems - I agree. But Henne still makes terrible decisions. He makes inaccurate throws. And he just continues to regress. I've seen more than enough. I'm done with him. Time to find somebody new. Period.
- What took this coaching staff so long to put Richie Incognito at center? He's clearly an upgrade over Joe Berger - who is not starting-caliber in this league. Now the question becomes if Incognito is worth a contract extension as the team's CENTER next year.
- Of course, that decision can't be made until we know who is running the show after the season. You have to imagine a 1-7 home record and home losses to the Browns, Bills, and Lions are not helping the cases of both Jeff Ireland and Tony Sparano. Owner Stephen Ross has some seriously difficult decisions to make. I still don't blame Tony Sparano so much. I mostly blame Ireland, Bill Parcells, and Dan Henning. But Sparano might be too intertwined with those guys to survive - especially with some big name coaches out there lurking.
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ill be back later i dont know what to say
im gonna sleep i ll be back in a bit after i gather my thoughts
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lol i usually do the same after bad loses.
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by 54 on Dec 26, 2010 4:41 PM EST up reply actions
I just went out to eat with the kid. I had to get away from the computer after that crap.
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by texascowpunk on Dec 26, 2010 8:35 PM EST up reply actions
Blaming Ireland are you serious wow..................
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by Carl Johnson a.k.a CJ on Dec 26, 2010 4:41 PM EST reply actions
Yes, him and Parcells are totally to blame for this mess.
That isn’t as obvious to you as it is to Matty?
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by luvs2drnk on Dec 26, 2010 5:48 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I agree... we should have drafted Matt Ryan
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QB>LT
As good as Long is and will be, he’ll never lead us to a championship.
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wtf
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A franchise QB will always be more important than a franchise LT
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Earl imagine you're Matt Ryan With Mcquistan guarding your blindside lol
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Football is like life - it requires perseverance, self-denial, hard work, sacrifice, dedication and respect for authority.
Sharks are as tough as those football fans who take their shirts off during games in Chicago in January, only more intelligent.
People who work together will win, whether it be against complex football defenses, or the problems of modern society.
by Carl Johnson a.k.a CJ on Dec 26, 2010 7:44 PM EST up reply actions
Hed roll out better or throw better
or sell a freakin playaction pass better
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We wouldn't have used him
But we could have gotten a LT in another draft of later in the draft. Of course that LT wouldn’t have been as good as Long. But I’d rather have a great QB (and Ryan is a great now) and an average LT, than a great LT and an average QB.
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Tell that to Matthew Stafford,2 years in,no left tackle,2 years injured
by dolphinfan4lyfe on Dec 27, 2010 5:00 AM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
yup Matt Ryan would get beat up to hell
"Football is a game played with arms, legs and shoulders but mostly from the neck up"
Football is like life - it requires perseverance, self-denial, hard work, sacrifice, dedication and respect for authority.
Sharks are as tough as those football fans who take their shirts off during games in Chicago in January, only more intelligent.
People who work together will win, whether it be against complex football defenses, or the problems of modern society.
by Carl Johnson a.k.a CJ on Dec 27, 2010 6:32 PM EST up reply actions
who's Ryan's left tackle?
Stafford is a different case. He has the worst starting LT in football. Ryan has a middle of the road LT, and he’s doing fine.
For that matter, name Brees’ LT. Or Manning’s.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Dec 27, 2010 11:12 PM EST up reply actions
Manning hasn't won a SB since his LT left.
The whole O-line is built to pass block on Manning’s team.
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hindsight is 20/20 but your def. right franchise qb> franchise left tackle
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by Cfrfootball39 on Dec 26, 2010 5:55 PM EST up reply actions
hey lets give Jake Long back, and put Ryan behind a wall made of flour, water, and a brick??
"Football is a game played with arms, legs and shoulders but mostly from the neck up"
Football is like life - it requires perseverance, self-denial, hard work, sacrifice, dedication and respect for authority.
Sharks are as tough as those football fans who take their shirts off during games in Chicago in January, only more intelligent.
People who work together will win, whether it be against complex football defenses, or the problems of modern society.
by Carl Johnson a.k.a CJ on Dec 26, 2010 5:56 PM EST up reply actions
whats to have say that if we drafted Ryan that henning's play calling wouldnt have shafted him to ?!
"Football is a game played with arms, legs and shoulders but mostly from the neck up"
Football is like life - it requires perseverance, self-denial, hard work, sacrifice, dedication and respect for authority.
Sharks are as tough as those football fans who take their shirts off during games in Chicago in January, only more intelligent.
People who work together will win, whether it be against complex football defenses, or the problems of modern society.
by Carl Johnson a.k.a CJ on Dec 26, 2010 5:57 PM EST up reply actions
i see what your saying, but we could have drafter a decent tackle in the second round..yeah no where good as long but we would have been fine
coulda traded back up and got joe thomas…like i said hindsight is 20/20
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by Cfrfootball39 on Dec 26, 2010 5:58 PM EST up reply actions
since were saying Parcells and Ireland are to blame lets take away everything they got us
lets make a list
1. Vontae Davis
2. Sean Smith
3. Chris Clemons
4. Anthony Fasano
5. Karlos Dansby
6. Brandon Marshall
7. Jake Long
8. Lousaka Polite
9. Davone Bess
10. Brian Hartline
11. Tim Dobbins
12. Kendall Langford
13. Randy Starks
14. Tony Mcdaniels
15. Phillip Merling
16. Chad Pennington
17. Koa Misi
18. cameron Wake
the list goes on including Mike Nolan take all those and then some and tell us where we would be at this moment??
"Football is a game played with arms, legs and shoulders but mostly from the neck up"
Football is like life - it requires perseverance, self-denial, hard work, sacrifice, dedication and respect for authority.
Sharks are as tough as those football fans who take their shirts off during games in Chicago in January, only more intelligent.
People who work together will win, whether it be against complex football defenses, or the problems of modern society.
by Carl Johnson a.k.a CJ on Dec 26, 2010 6:03 PM EST up reply actions
that list....
is pretty poor. two good players (Vontae and wake) and a whole bunch of OK players.
Dansby and Marshal came via CASH – thanks Ross. no thanks to a savvy GM decision.
by Don't hate on Yeremiah on Dec 26, 2010 10:25 PM EST up reply actions
Long is more than an OK player
He’s the best LT in the NFL right now.
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sorry -
long is pretty good too – you may be pushing it to say the best LT in football. If you truly believe that, why aren’t the Fins more effective at running to the left side?? Isn’t run blocking par of the LT’s job?
by Don't hate on Yeremiah on Dec 27, 2010 7:59 AM EST up reply actions
if they an run to Jakes side doesnt that tell you either two things the LG cant pull, the center sucks, hmm or maybe both?
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Football is like life - it requires perseverance, self-denial, hard work, sacrifice, dedication and respect for authority.
Sharks are as tough as those football fans who take their shirts off during games in Chicago in January, only more intelligent.
People who work together will win, whether it be against complex football defenses, or the problems of modern society.
by Carl Johnson a.k.a CJ on Dec 27, 2010 6:33 PM EST up reply actions
We could have traded every other pick in the 08 draft in order to move back up to get Ryan
and we would have missed out on Merling (acceptable), Henne (obvious), Langford (only player we would miss) and Hilliard (acceptable).
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And that's why you're not working for an NFL front office.
I used to think I had a drinking problem.
So I stopped thinking.
And that's why we're not winning
Say what you want, put this regime lost its job because they didn’t get a franchise QB. We’re mired in mediocrity, oh but we got a great LT. Meanwhile Matt Ryan, behind a line no better than ours is leading his team to the playoffs.
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Um, Atlanta has a better line than ours.
They have a better receiving corp.
They have a better RB.
They have a better TE.
That’s why they’re winning. Not solely because of Matt Ryan. Don’t get me wrong, I think Ryan is a good QB. But I don’t think he’s as valuable as a stud LT. Just ask Dan Marino how valuable Webb was.
Did it ever occur to you that we’re mired in mediocrity because we are mediocre? Everyone bought into the hype, and now that it’s not panning out there’s this huge letdown. Yet most of us with realistic views saw a 9-7 or 8-8 season as a reasonable expectation for this year.
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So I stopped thinking.
by luvs2drnk on Dec 26, 2010 6:19 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Mike Ditka traded away a whole draft for one pick
And look how that went for him!!
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And um... I think Atlanta is ok with that decision
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Atlanta has 1 thing we didnt have back then and 1 thing we dont need now, a defense, and the fucking old dinosaur named Dan Henning
"Football is a game played with arms, legs and shoulders but mostly from the neck up"
Football is like life - it requires perseverance, self-denial, hard work, sacrifice, dedication and respect for authority.
Sharks are as tough as those football fans who take their shirts off during games in Chicago in January, only more intelligent.
People who work together will win, whether it be against complex football defenses, or the problems of modern society.
by Carl Johnson a.k.a CJ on Dec 26, 2010 6:13 PM EST up reply actions
They also had a complete receiving corp.
Which we aren’t in as bad a shape as we were, but we still need a deep threat.
I used to think I had a drinking problem.
So I stopped thinking.
Well I'll give you that
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Except our defense is better than Atlanta's
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Its grea cause of all the additions Parcells and Ireland made , I agree they made bad ones too, lets say if we didnt take a chance on this regime, and still bought pasqualoni in do you think this defense would be as good as it is now?
"Football is a game played with arms, legs and shoulders but mostly from the neck up"
Football is like life - it requires perseverance, self-denial, hard work, sacrifice, dedication and respect for authority.
Sharks are as tough as those football fans who take their shirts off during games in Chicago in January, only more intelligent.
People who work together will win, whether it be against complex football defenses, or the problems of modern society.
by Carl Johnson a.k.a CJ on Dec 26, 2010 6:34 PM EST up reply actions
Our defense is good because Nolan is good at getting the best out of his personnel
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and we have great talent too?
"Football is a game played with arms, legs and shoulders but mostly from the neck up"
Football is like life - it requires perseverance, self-denial, hard work, sacrifice, dedication and respect for authority.
Sharks are as tough as those football fans who take their shirts off during games in Chicago in January, only more intelligent.
People who work together will win, whether it be against complex football defenses, or the problems of modern society.
by Carl Johnson a.k.a CJ on Dec 26, 2010 6:35 PM EST up reply actions
That too
Soliai developed and became a key player. Davis and Smith improved. Dansby was a big addition. Clemons has played decent enough. But Nolan is good at putting players in the best possible position to be successful.
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PP was the DC version of our OC Henning smh
"Football is a game played with arms, legs and shoulders but mostly from the neck up"
Football is like life - it requires perseverance, self-denial, hard work, sacrifice, dedication and respect for authority.
Sharks are as tough as those football fans who take their shirts off during games in Chicago in January, only more intelligent.
People who work together will win, whether it be against complex football defenses, or the problems of modern society.
by Carl Johnson a.k.a CJ on Dec 26, 2010 6:38 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Sorry...
but Sparano is just not the answer. I’ve seen enough of the wasted time outs and the lack of a killer instinct. That sets the tone for the team and the HC has to be accountable for a 1-7 home record.
I hate to say it, cause I really do like Sparano and think he's one of the better coaches in the league, but this loss has likely decided his fate.
Sparano’s definitely not the problem, but he’s not the solution either.
Bring on Bill Cowher.
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by JP 23 on Dec 26, 2010 4:48 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
what make Sparano
one of the better coaches in the league?
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He can't even coach our OL
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A wise man makes his own decisions, an ignorant man follows the public opinion. ~Chinese Proverb
I thought the second half of our season was supposed to be easier??
Wins against the Browns, Bills, and Lions (combined 14-31 records) puts the Dolphins at 10-5. Good coaches and teams win those games against teams with 14-31 records. Those teams would be 11-34 if we didn’t provide them with wins.
Unacceptable….No more excuses…
by Phin-Phan-Phorever on Dec 26, 2010 5:06 PM EST up reply actions
For the last time (and if you guys were to... oh i don't know... READ!) I agree Sparano should and will be fired.
I’m simply saying that while he’s definitely on his way out (along with Henne, Henning, and Ireland), Sparano is better than half the coaches in the NFL (which if you want to go by statistics too, I’d be proven correct), yet you two are killing me for it! Unbelievable. Did you guys have trouble passing the FCAT?
Sparano is going to get another Head coaching gig. That’s a guarantee. Ireland however, will never get another shot as GM.
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by JP 23 on Dec 26, 2010 5:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
And before this season, no one was complaining about the O-Line or whether he could coach them...
A big injury to your best player (Jake Long), a rookie OG, as well as the lack of a real pulling guard and depth on the line will always change a few opinions whether its deserved or not.
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by JP 23 on Dec 26, 2010 5:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Neo you mean he broke our oline, playing mad scientist, trying to get cheaper..........
"Football is a game played with arms, legs and shoulders but mostly from the neck up"
Football is like life - it requires perseverance, self-denial, hard work, sacrifice, dedication and respect for authority.
Sharks are as tough as those football fans who take their shirts off during games in Chicago in January, only more intelligent.
People who work together will win, whether it be against complex football defenses, or the problems of modern society.
by Carl Johnson a.k.a CJ on Dec 26, 2010 5:58 PM EST up reply actions
That's a different story.
If anything, this year proved he shouldn’t be given any say in choosing personnel. But a lot of coaches shouldn’t, even some greats (Gruden, Shanahan to name a few).
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by JP 23 on Dec 26, 2010 7:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
There's a lot of bad coaches in the NFL. Sparano is better than most. He keeps his guys in check and always sticks to his gameplan (whether you like the plan or not, he always wins T.O.P.), and keeps his players very disciplined.
But like I just said, and maybe you missed it. While he’s not the problem, he’s not the solution either. He doesn’t have what it takes to be a Super Bowl head coach.
So again, bring on Bill Cowher.
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by JP 23 on Dec 26, 2010 5:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Sorry
Good coaches do not got 1-7 at home. I don’t care how you try to twist this.
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Call me crazy Neo....
but do you think the team keeps losing after a win because Sparano gives the team a day off and doesn’t start practice till Wednesday after a win?
All year long it seems like after every win, Sparano would say “See you guys Wednesday!” and everyone would go nuts in the locker room. I’d think that you’d stop giving any days off starting like 6-8 games ago….
by Phin-Phan-Phorever on Dec 26, 2010 5:08 PM EST up reply actions
Crazy!
J/k
Dude I don’t know what it is. All I know is we are not this bad that we should be losing to teams like the bills, browns, lions (all with QB issues of their own) at home. Thats coaching.
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It saddens me to come on this site and find that some (not all) of our fan base cannot READ or write.
The Florida public school system sucks!
Again, I completely agree, Sparano should and will be fired. But that doesn’t make him one of the worst coaches in the NFL. I understand that you are upset, but stop trying to make silly arguments out of nothing.
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by JP 23 on Dec 26, 2010 5:46 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
ohh good. I’m glad im not the only one who thinks that to.
Kacy Rodgers Our D-Line Coach. Got to give him some credit.
Andrew Luck or Ryan Mallett 1st Round. Make it Happen. No excuses.
Rusty Smith! (Titans future qb)
by 54 on Dec 26, 2010 5:40 PM EST up reply actions
Wednesday is the norm for all the NFL teams
I want Sparano out of here bad. Teams usually use Monday for player treatments and film review. Tuesday is the players day off all across the NFL. Wednesday is the day they begin practice and game planning for the next opponet.
by afceast on Dec 26, 2010 5:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
k thanks. I was wondering if that was the case
Kacy Rodgers Our D-Line Coach. Got to give him some credit.
Andrew Luck or Ryan Mallett 1st Round. Make it Happen. No excuses.
Rusty Smith! (Titans future qb)
by 54 on Dec 26, 2010 5:43 PM EST up reply actions
What am I twisting Neo? I'm agreeing that he's on his way out.
But he’s definitely better than half the coaches in the league. Bad coaches don’t keep there’s teams in every game. And as Henne showed today, you can’t blame every loss on the staff.
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by JP 23 on Dec 26, 2010 5:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Fist Pumping on FGs...
Consistently being in a position to win against good teams and trying to hold on instead of putting the dagger in them, consistently letting bad teams back into games…. Focusing on the details that cause you to lose instead of the big picture…. I could go on, but you get the point don’t you??? Sparano is a great coach!!!
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If I only had a brain" --Dan Henning
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And yet I'm torn apart Just because I'm presumin'
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by Jason Scott_90 on Dec 26, 2010 6:17 PM EST up reply actions
The simple fact that we have been in position to win just about every game since Sparano took over as HC shows that are that our team is well prepared coming into every game. Thats thanks in large to Sparano and his staff.
At some point, you have to put some blame on the players for there mishaps, missed opportunities, and poor execution.
But like I said, I doesn’t matter how I feel about Sparano’s ability to coach in the Pros. 7-9 just doesn’t cut it. This latest loss all but guaranteed Sparano’s fate. He’s gone. As is Ireland, Henning, and Henne.
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by JP 23 on Dec 26, 2010 7:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Where are all those Henne supporters now?
Speak up and tell me how great he is. The floor is yours.
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by JP 23 on Dec 26, 2010 4:43 PM EST via mobile reply actions
They’ll be here calling him our future don’t worry.
Kacy Rodgers Our D-Line Coach. Got to give him some credit.
Andrew Luck or Ryan Mallett 1st Round. Make it Happen. No excuses.
Rusty Smith! (Titans future qb)
by 54 on Dec 26, 2010 4:44 PM EST up reply actions
It's ok, I'll wait.
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by JP 23 on Dec 26, 2010 4:50 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I guess we have to wait longer today
Kacy Rodgers Our D-Line Coach. Got to give him some credit.
Andrew Luck or Ryan Mallett 1st Round. Make it Happen. No excuses.
Rusty Smith! (Titans future qb)
by 54 on Dec 26, 2010 5:05 PM EST up reply actions
or should I say the floor is your ceiling!
"Football is a game played with arms, legs and shoulders but mostly from the neck up"
Football is like life - it requires perseverance, self-denial, hard work, sacrifice, dedication and respect for authority.
Sharks are as tough as those football fans who take their shirts off during games in Chicago in January, only more intelligent.
People who work together will win, whether it be against complex football defenses, or the problems of modern society.
by Carl Johnson a.k.a CJ on Dec 26, 2010 4:44 PM EST up reply actions
Right here!
Let me guess….you didn’t even see a huge difference in the play calling that put us out front and the 2nd half where we looked like the 2010 same old pathetic team.
Are you trying to tell me that had Marshall and Bess not fallen down causing the INTs you wouldn’t be talking about just how stupid Henning is?
In 4 games,not counting this one,Henne is 46-56,32 1st downs,4 TDs and no INTs in 4 & 5Wr sets yet Henning had rather call his 2Wr sets facing double and triple coverage and/or get a lead and start folding the tents so you’re damn right I’ll still support Henne.
by firedanhenningnow on Dec 26, 2010 6:25 PM EST up reply actions
thats the dumbest philosopy ever for an oc quit while your ahead wtf drive up the points more put them away, its like saying your disarming a terrorist with a bomb strapped to him take him the hell out and make sure he has no chance to detonate
"Football is a game played with arms, legs and shoulders but mostly from the neck up"
Football is like life - it requires perseverance, self-denial, hard work, sacrifice, dedication and respect for authority.
Sharks are as tough as those football fans who take their shirts off during games in Chicago in January, only more intelligent.
People who work together will win, whether it be against complex football defenses, or the problems of modern society.
by Carl Johnson a.k.a CJ on Dec 26, 2010 6:29 PM EST up reply actions
Oh gosh! Another fan whose in denial. LOL
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by JP 23 on Dec 26, 2010 7:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Shuler...
What are everyone’s thoughts on this kid? Does he have the goods to be that seam TE? Or do we go TE early in the draft? In terms of OL, I think that is where you focus with the 1st two picks, unless you are able to draft one of the top 3 QBs in the draft…
shuler was doing good till Henne threw that pass lol
"Football is a game played with arms, legs and shoulders but mostly from the neck up"
Football is like life - it requires perseverance, self-denial, hard work, sacrifice, dedication and respect for authority.
Sharks are as tough as those football fans who take their shirts off during games in Chicago in January, only more intelligent.
People who work together will win, whether it be against complex football defenses, or the problems of modern society.
by Carl Johnson a.k.a CJ on Dec 26, 2010 4:50 PM EST up reply actions
GREAT HIPS!
That was my first impression.
Kacy Rodgers Our D-Line Coach. Got to give him some credit.
Andrew Luck or Ryan Mallett 1st Round. Make it Happen. No excuses.
Rusty Smith! (Titans future qb)
by 54 on Dec 26, 2010 4:54 PM EST up reply actions
Bill Cowher + New QB
Anyone???…..still Sparano…but 1-7 at home…no excuses man!
Not angry anymore…kind of sad when what happened in the 4th qtr does not suprse me!
kind of sad when what happened in the 4th qtr does not suprse me!
Is it worse that I expected it?
Kacy Rodgers Our D-Line Coach. Got to give him some credit.
Andrew Luck or Ryan Mallett 1st Round. Make it Happen. No excuses.
Rusty Smith! (Titans future qb)
by 54 on Dec 26, 2010 4:49 PM EST up reply actions
1-7 at home against some of the league's worst teams
That’s what makes it worse. Usually winning against good teams on the road is a sign of good coaching, and this team has done that. But losing to awful teams at home is the sign of bad coaching. What we’re left with is what we’ve seen all year: consistent mediocrity.
Even worse......
To be mediocre and become 8-8 the Dolphins have to beat the Patriots on the road…..or they will be 7-9 like last year. 0 progress but lots of regress = Firings…
by Phin-Phan-Phorever on Dec 26, 2010 5:09 PM EST up reply actions
We need to vastly upgrade our OL
Or nobody will be able to QB this team
So your saying a top 5 WR and the best slot WR in the game arent good enough
Sam Bradford is doing ALOT more with ALOT less
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Dec 26, 2010 5:06 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed....
Time to put Thiggy in and see what is left in him. New QB and Coach and this team has a chance…
by Phin-Phan-Phorever on Dec 26, 2010 5:10 PM EST up reply actions
I don't mind keeping Sparano but if we can get Cowher I'm all for it
New QB
New OC
New lineman
are on the top of my list
"You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity."
New GM
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Dec 26, 2010 5:06 PM EST up reply actions
Honestly, I don't get the Ireland hate
The reason I’m frustrated with this team isn’t because they don’t have the talent, its because they aren’t winning with the talent they have. You take the QB position out of the discussion and I honestly believe this is the most talented team in the AFC East and one of the five most talented in the AFC. Seriously.
The problem, in my opinion at least, has been coaching and the quarterback position. You can blame Ireland for missing on Henne, that’s fine. But the fact is there are plenty of good/great GMs that have struck out on quarterbacks. It happens. I think Ireland (and Parcells) did a fine job of re-tooling the roster. You also have to remember that the majority of the team is young, which is a good thing. Its the coaching that has dropped the ball, not the guys acquiring the players.
Remember, we all loved Ireland and Parcells this off-season when they went out and got Dansby and Marshall. That was their job: acquiring talent. They don’t have any control over how that talent is utilized.
No O-line outside of Long. No receiving TE. No speed WR opposite BM or in the slot.
Old RBs (not that bad given the O-line), No shutdown CB (Davis isn’t and neither is Smith). Worst OC in the NFL. We have a lot of needs.
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Great Game guys don't melt down completely
You guys have alot of great players for the future. These are not the same Old Lions you fought hard and hat off. Good luck next week!
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Dolphans are all about whining.
They were booing BEFORE the meltdown. LOL!
"If anything goes bad, I did it. If anything goes semi-good, we did it. If anything goes really good you did it. That's all it takes to get people to win football games for you."
Coach Paul Bear Bryant
As a Lions fan I am familiar with Melt Downs
We almost had one at halftime on POD lol
Cannot play with them. Cannot win with them. Cannot coach with them. Can't do it. I want winners. I want people that want to win. - Mike Singletary
by The Profiler on Dec 26, 2010 4:53 PM EST up reply actions
You guys still suck... it just so happens our QB decided to let you back in the game
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Dec 26, 2010 5:08 PM EST up reply actions
Wow try to show some class but hey if you wanna roll like that
You guys lost that game way before Levy got the pick. Were on are way up and like dolphins you guys will continue to swim at the bottom
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by The Profiler on Dec 26, 2010 5:20 PM EST up reply actions
dolphins generrally swim towards the middle to the top of the water...jus sayin lol
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by Cfrfootball39 on Dec 26, 2010 5:27 PM EST up reply actions
wow dude...show some class
we don’t treat guest like that…and I apologize for my friends attitude. Good game and good luck next week and next year.
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Thanks
Obviously that is not aimed at most of you. Phinsider has showed much class yo us this week. Good luck in the future phins fans.
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by The Profiler on Dec 26, 2010 5:25 PM EST up reply actions
I still don't blame Tony Sparano so much. I mostly blame Ireland, Bill Parcells, and Dan Henning
LOL, you are a comedian now. Its everyone’s fault EXCEPT the Head Coach? You cannot be serious Matty.
Henne is bad.
Parcells and Ireland hasn’t done anything but load this team with talent.
What took this coaching staff so long to put Richie Incognito at center?
SPARANO is responsible for who starts and sits on this team. Hell Matty, SPARANO was the OL coach in Dallas, but its not his fault?
I’m no longer in a position to defend Henne, and you have absolute no position to defend Sparano.
Got news for ya Matty, Ireland and Parcells doesn’t coach this team. Our OL is a mess even though our HC is a former OL coach. Sparano should’ve FIRED Henning games ago, but didn’t have the nerve.
How could you not blame Sparano so much? He is our F’n Head Coach? We just lost 3 straight home games to the Browns, Bills, and Lions for crying out loud and thats Ireland and Parcells fault? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.
I know you are gonna hate me for this Matty, but I’m sorry, you just got to hate me, to blame mostly everyone else besides the man solely responsible for this team’s play week after week is just laughable.
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I like the guy...
and wanted to see him succeed, particularly given his enthusiasm, and although I knew going in that he would be learning on our dime, I don’t see him doing much of that because it is a common theme with continous time mismanagement and lack of cajunas when in situations where you have a team on the ropes — FGs are nice, but not going to get it done in this league and in this division…
There are plenty of nice guys
Just because I want them gone doesn’t mean I think they are a bad person. I’m about winning. And I’m sorry if I got to let a likable guy go.
I want someone who can get the job done. Losing to these past 3 teams at home, isn’t doing that.
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"Permanence, perseverance and persistence in spite of all obstacles, discouragements, and impossibilities: It is this, that in all things distinguishes the strong soul from the weak." Thomas Carlyle
A wise man makes his own decisions, an ignorant man follows the public opinion. ~Chinese Proverb
Wade phillips was a nice guy
I agree fire tony
Dan Henning is the sole reason the dolphins aren't a Superbowl Caliber team.
I agree 100%
having your team ready to go and the gameplans in place are all on the HEAD COACH, not the GM or anybody else. If the gameplan is flawed, it is the HEAD COACH who needs to make sure it gets fixed!
I have been in favor of Henne playing under a new OC and QB coach, and I still am. I am not saying that he is faultless in this, but it takes 11 people to play offense in the NFL, so he is not the only one at fault. I also have a feeling that this team does not beleive in the coaches philosophy and that it is time for at least a new OC, QB coach AND a new OL coach
"Bears, Beets, Battlestar Galactica" - Jim Halpert as Dwight Schrute
I don't think they(players) believe in Henne either.
Damn the sheriff, Bring on MARSHALL LAW
by fin4three5yrs on Dec 26, 2010 5:12 PM EST up reply actions
What does the fm do
Pick the players and coaches. Both are letting us down now.
Henne is NOT the answer
by sdelinois on Dec 26, 2010 5:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Nailed it!!
I like the guy, but too many signs Sparano is in over his head. OC and QB Coach are must changes this off season, but not going to be the least bit sad if they find a new HC to replace Sparano too.
Memo to Dan Henning's kidnappers
Why did you let him out in the fourth quarter? We gave you extra duct tape and telephone cord!
by DrJay32 on Dec 26, 2010 4:57 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
You should have had them kidnap our head coach and QB too ....
"And my head I'd be scratchin' While my thoughts were busy hatchin'
If I only had a brain" --Dan Henning
"When a man's an empty kettle, He should be on his mettle
And yet I'm torn apart Just because I'm presumin'
That I could be a human, If I only had a heart" --Chad Henne
by Jason Scott_90 on Dec 26, 2010 6:07 PM EST up reply actions
The kidnappers released Henning too early.......................Henne was on a roll till he showed up!
"Football is a game played with arms, legs and shoulders but mostly from the neck up"
Football is like life - it requires perseverance, self-denial, hard work, sacrifice, dedication and respect for authority.
Sharks are as tough as those football fans who take their shirts off during games in Chicago in January, only more intelligent.
People who work together will win, whether it be against complex football defenses, or the problems of modern society.
by Carl Johnson a.k.a CJ on Dec 26, 2010 6:10 PM EST up reply actions
First strip away the WR, RB and QB
We just need players that can make plays consistently the wide outs, running backs, and qb have been inconstant, I think that we need to get a new qb, new running backs and a wide outs that can make those plays. I hate to say that williams and brown should head out but I think they are not showing they still can play.
bad idea to get rid of a consistent Camarillo?
Anyone?
Kacy Rodgers Our D-Line Coach. Got to give him some credit.
Andrew Luck or Ryan Mallett 1st Round. Make it Happen. No excuses.
Rusty Smith! (Titans future qb)
by 54 on Dec 26, 2010 5:02 PM EST up reply actions
no...
Camarillo is a poor man’s Hartline. I think we are set at WR. We need a TE, a scat back with some speed and some hogs in the interior and we’ll be a playoff team. I have not given up on Henne as I’ve seen some flashes but God do I hate the check downs and inability to hit on the deep ball!
so Wallace and Moore are better than someone who was clutch?
Kacy Rodgers Our D-Line Coach. Got to give him some credit.
Andrew Luck or Ryan Mallett 1st Round. Make it Happen. No excuses.
Rusty Smith! (Titans future qb)
by 54 on Dec 26, 2010 5:11 PM EST up reply actions
who couldnt get open
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Dec 26, 2010 5:13 PM EST up reply actions
lol
You know he did right? Especially at the most important times in games.
Kacy Rodgers Our D-Line Coach. Got to give him some credit.
Andrew Luck or Ryan Mallett 1st Round. Make it Happen. No excuses.
Rusty Smith! (Titans future qb)
by 54 on Dec 26, 2010 5:19 PM EST up reply actions
He's really helping Minnesota
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Dec 26, 2010 5:42 PM EST up reply actions
They aren’t using him. Minn fans will tell you he’s been underused.
Kacy Rodgers Our D-Line Coach. Got to give him some credit.
Andrew Luck or Ryan Mallett 1st Round. Make it Happen. No excuses.
Rusty Smith! (Titans future qb)
by 54 on Dec 26, 2010 5:47 PM EST up reply actions
Dude, the problem is lack of speed...
I love Camarillo as much as the next guy. They guy will go down in infamy, but he is another Bess. A slot guy who is quick with good hands but not a guy who will get any separation. don’t know if Wallace or Moore are going to be key contributors down the stretch but they do have potential. But I like our top three WRs in Marshall, Hartline, and Bess. If you pair them up with two solid TE’s and a scat back with speed — look out. Of course, you still need an OL that can hold the line and a QB that can deliver it. So again, don’t think the Camarillo trade set us back.
ahh yes but we didn’t replace him with better players
Kacy Rodgers Our D-Line Coach. Got to give him some credit.
Andrew Luck or Ryan Mallett 1st Round. Make it Happen. No excuses.
Rusty Smith! (Titans future qb)
by 54 on Dec 26, 2010 5:20 PM EST up reply actions
Actually, I thought Ginn...
was more of a set back. Say what you will about his hands but when he was on the field, the opposing team had to respect his big play ability. I would really have liked to see him with Marshall on the field together. Not to mention the hit on our special teams return ability…
Yes getting rid of him was a dumb move to.
Kacy Rodgers Our D-Line Coach. Got to give him some credit.
Andrew Luck or Ryan Mallett 1st Round. Make it Happen. No excuses.
Rusty Smith! (Titans future qb)
by 54 on Dec 26, 2010 5:37 PM EST up reply actions
No team respected him as a deep threat ....
Come on… they knew what we did, he would drop the ball, or hear footsteps… and drop the ball….
"And my head I'd be scratchin' While my thoughts were busy hatchin'
If I only had a brain" --Dan Henning
"When a man's an empty kettle, He should be on his mettle
And yet I'm torn apart Just because I'm presumin'
That I could be a human, If I only had a heart" --Chad Henne
by Jason Scott_90 on Dec 26, 2010 6:29 PM EST up reply actions
Jason he didnt alligator arm as much as he used to, he just caught the ball and went down
"Football is a game played with arms, legs and shoulders but mostly from the neck up"
Football is like life - it requires perseverance, self-denial, hard work, sacrifice, dedication and respect for authority.
Sharks are as tough as those football fans who take their shirts off during games in Chicago in January, only more intelligent.
People who work together will win, whether it be against complex football defenses, or the problems of modern society.
by Carl Johnson a.k.a CJ on Dec 26, 2010 6:30 PM EST up reply actions
or make a beeline for the sideline....
We could use him on 2 min drills …. I mean, if he could only catch the ball …. but then again .. not as bad as catching it and not getting out of bounds for a 2 min drill …. so …. BRING BACK THE GINN FAMILY!!!
"And my head I'd be scratchin' While my thoughts were busy hatchin'
If I only had a brain" --Dan Henning
"When a man's an empty kettle, He should be on his mettle
And yet I'm torn apart Just because I'm presumin'
That I could be a human, If I only had a heart" --Chad Henne
by Jason Scott_90 on Dec 26, 2010 6:32 PM EST up reply actions
bring back Ginn the family has no trade value lol
"Football is a game played with arms, legs and shoulders but mostly from the neck up"
Football is like life - it requires perseverance, self-denial, hard work, sacrifice, dedication and respect for authority.
Sharks are as tough as those football fans who take their shirts off during games in Chicago in January, only more intelligent.
People who work together will win, whether it be against complex football defenses, or the problems of modern society.
by Carl Johnson a.k.a CJ on Dec 26, 2010 6:34 PM EST up reply actions
Let me get this straight
You haven’t given up on Henne yet and getting rid of Ted Ginn was a step down. Camarillo was OK to trade also. Maybe we should bring back Cam, what do you think? I think you bring a great service to this board. Just post your thoughts and if we do the opposite we are on our way to the Super Bowl.
by Truth Warrior on Dec 26, 2010 10:13 PM EST up reply actions
Wouldn't mind bring back Cam...
as an OC…As for Henne, yes agree, he’s got plenty to fix but what’s the alternative? Overpay to move up? I think your best bet is to fix the O-line and infuse some speed and try to win in spite of him. Say what you will about Ginn, but he did have speed — I’m pretty sure Revis was glad to see him go, not to mention Rex. Safety’s nowadays do alot of cheating up against the fins and that would help explain why every time Marshall catches the ball, he’s draped by 3-4 guys…
Not receiver wise, but Wallace gives us macho ST play.
Damn the sheriff, Bring on MARSHALL LAW
by fin4three5yrs on Dec 26, 2010 7:21 PM EST up reply actions
Wallace is an animal at ST, if only he was like that as a reciever
"Football is a game played with arms, legs and shoulders but mostly from the neck up"
Football is like life - it requires perseverance, self-denial, hard work, sacrifice, dedication and respect for authority.
Sharks are as tough as those football fans who take their shirts off during games in Chicago in January, only more intelligent.
People who work together will win, whether it be against complex football defenses, or the problems of modern society.
by Carl Johnson a.k.a CJ on Dec 26, 2010 7:27 PM EST up reply actions
I like Camarilo more than Bess right now
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Would disagree with you on R&R...
Thought they played well today. The problem really wasn’t the offense…It was just an implosion on both sides of the ball in the 4th Quarter. Sad really. Henne played well up until that quarter and then the bottom fell out.
With no holes created by the IL, what rb can be successful?
Mark Ingram will more than likely be available in the 1st, but you will need hogs in front to plow his way.
Damn the sheriff, Bring on MARSHALL LAW
by fin4three5yrs on Dec 26, 2010 5:05 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed ... we should have gotten CJ Spiller this last year ...
Do you see what he has done this year behind no offensive line … the Bills look amazing this year on offense … he totally changed the face of their offense …. oh … wait ….
"And my head I'd be scratchin' While my thoughts were busy hatchin'
If I only had a brain" --Dan Henning
"When a man's an empty kettle, He should be on his mettle
And yet I'm torn apart Just because I'm presumin'
That I could be a human, If I only had a heart" --Chad Henne
by Jason Scott_90 on Dec 26, 2010 6:30 PM EST up reply actions
Lets be clear, assistant coaches make suggestions and Head Coaches makes
decisions. Those decisions have killed us all year and while playcalling has been atrocious, they are not the blame for Henne’s decisions and ball placement. Time to acqire a 2nd round pick and grab a center and keep Incognito at G and backup center. Try getting Rodney Hudson with our 2nd pick.
Damn the sheriff, Bring on MARSHALL LAW
time to sell out and trade up for a QB
Kacy Rodgers Our D-Line Coach. Got to give him some credit.
Andrew Luck or Ryan Mallett 1st Round. Make it Happen. No excuses.
Rusty Smith! (Titans future qb)
by 54 on Dec 26, 2010 5:03 PM EST up reply actions
Be nice 54, but there are so many teams ahead of us with qb needs. Unless 1 of those
wants to take the chance with one of our current qb, I don’t see it happening. I do think Pat Devlin can be picked up with our 3rd round pick though.
Damn the sheriff, Bring on MARSHALL LAW
by fin4three5yrs on Dec 26, 2010 5:08 PM EST up reply actions
Too risky...
not a guarantee that you’ll hit on a QB and would set your team back for years if you get it wrong. Fix the OL and get some speed at TE and RB and you are a playoff team…
ummm what are the chances of finding a QB outside the first round?(slim to none) Where will we find a starter? Kolb is the only good choice that may be available. However Eagles said they are keeping him and Vick.
If we don’t take a risk we have very little chance of ever finding one. Mediocre works for you. Not for me.
Kacy Rodgers Our D-Line Coach. Got to give him some credit.
Andrew Luck or Ryan Mallett 1st Round. Make it Happen. No excuses.
Rusty Smith! (Titans future qb)
by 54 on Dec 26, 2010 5:17 PM EST up reply actions
Every pick has risk, but if we can get Ingram in the first and pick up a 2nd round pick
and nab a center while trying to grab Mankin in FA, we have solved some big holes. Devlin was a projected 1st round qb last year and getting him in the 3rd will be a safe pick and a steal.
Damn the sheriff, Bring on MARSHALL LAW
by fin4three5yrs on Dec 26, 2010 5:17 PM EST up reply actions
funny tweet
RT @billpalmer: Hugh Hefner and Chad Henne are the top two trending topics. Which is odd, because they have such opposite records in the scoring department.
Ouch!
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by texascowpunk on Dec 27, 2010 2:11 AM EST up reply actions
meltdown
i hope richie incognito is back and also mike nolan .the rest of the coaches and fo has to go also chad henne is not a starting nfl qb.did u notice how when the rush came he quit lookin downfiel and just tucked and ran.starting qbs in this league dont do that.i still question why is sean smith not man to man on their tes he can cover TE’s.we have to have a qb let thiggy and whomever the number 3 qb is play next week against patriots 1 game isnt gonna make or break us.considerin we are already broke
Yea, I agree. Now is the time to pitch players for trade value.
Damn the sheriff, Bring on MARSHALL LAW
by fin4three5yrs on Dec 26, 2010 5:10 PM EST up reply actions
Tony Sparano
the World’s 1st cheerleader coach.. I hear a Disney movie is in the works
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
Things I look forward to hearing from the players and coaches all week....
1.) blah blah blah Poor execution…..
2.) blah blah blah That’s a good team over there on the other side of the field…..
3.) blah blah blah Playcalling was incredible (aka The Tits)……
4.) blah blah blah Players need to accept responsibility because it isn’t the coaches fault……
5.) blah blah blah (in your best Trump voice) Your Fired!….
by Phin-Phan-Phorever on Dec 26, 2010 5:16 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Disapointing!!! We need help at oline. RB and oh ya QB
It’s pleasant watching BM. Could you imagine him with a great CONSISTANT QB!!
GEtSICK 4 JC
by GEtSICK13 on Dec 26, 2010 5:17 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Could you imagine him actually catching that ball
on 3rd down that killed a drive?
Not saying this game is on BM, but he’s had a LOT of drops this year of catchable balls.
Every WR drops balls
Your saying Henne is perfect?
by Dolphins21MZ on Dec 26, 2010 5:23 PM EST up reply actions
Not in the least.
But some WRs help their QB. Some make critical drops, or tip the ball into the air for picks.
The drops are more frustrating when the pass is indeed perfect.
Don’t waste the perfect throws!
What about the bad throw henne threw and Marshall bailed him out?
by Dolphins21MZ on Dec 26, 2010 5:39 PM EST up reply actions
That was a great play
But we paid for more plays like that and fewer drops.
That wasn't bailing the QB out.
That was great ball placement and a great catch.
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"Give me a minute and I'll change your mind. Give me a bullet and I'll change your life" -Gematria - Slipknot - All Hope Is Gone
It takes an ELITE QB
To win in spite of their team.
Henne is OK, but elite he is not. We’d be wise to try to get better in other areas of the game than bring in a rookie QB to the slaughterhouse with our current turnstile OL.
Bring in someone new for competition and to mature while the rest of the team gets better.
But I hate changing QBs every other year. It is not a recipe for success.
what are you talking about, before our oline got banged up we have been pretty damn good at pass blocking
henne has had plenty of time throwing all season, exept recently because of injuries…run blocking has been awful but pass blocking has been fine
"I propose that Obama elimatinates the word 'unemployment' and replaces it with the word 'free agency.' This will fill Americans with hope of 100 mil. $ contracts."
by Cfrfootball39 on Dec 26, 2010 5:23 PM EST up reply actions
I'm saying that
We have a lot more holes to fill before we draft another 3-year development project at QB.
Saw this on twitter:
And it is ironic that in the 1 #Dolphins home win, Chad Henne didn’t start or finish the game
aka "The Duke"
Proponent of I-AA Football
Driving the Roberto Wallace Bandwagon
Driving the Trade Up and Draft Andrew Luck Bandwagon
Unofficial Phinsider DJ
Was a huge Henne supporter
And in 3 quarters he was making me a supporter again, but in the 4th he def made me think again.
What this game showed is that Incognito should be the center, which means with Nate Gardner coming back or a OG picked up in the FA the OL can be back.
I definitely think a RB needs to be addressed in the off season, mainly because of the age of Ricky and Ronnie.
Still do not know where to turn for a QB. Henne needs to be upgraded… but I do not like drafting QB’s in the mid first round…. The Fins do not have the luxury of taking one to develop and need a play maker immediately so its hard for me to think Locker, Mallet or Newton are the answer in the draft.
Finally, I don’t think Cowher is the answer. With him coming in he is going to be expected to be the savior, which he should be… but as Jerry Jones said no coach has one a Super Bowl with 2 different teams.
The Patriots Suck
Whatever qb we get next year will not be better than Henne
Not with this O-line
Not with this running game
Not with this OC
Why do you guys want to put our “franchise” in a situation where he is destined to fail
(luls i’m going to continue this argument here)
Dan Henning is the sole reason the dolphins aren't a Superbowl Caliber team.
new OC, Draft qb in first round, Logan Mankins, Running backs can be found easily in later rounds
thats not putting in a situation to fail, thats rebuilding a team making is better and with those changes guarantee and new qb will be better than henne
"I propose that Obama elimatinates the word 'unemployment' and replaces it with the word 'free agency.' This will fill Americans with hope of 100 mil. $ contracts."
by Cfrfootball39 on Dec 26, 2010 5:41 PM EST up reply actions
Fine lets assume those
Rookie Qb’s don’t usually do too well in their first seasons
Considering how you are willing to give up on henne after his second year starting
I find it weird that you are willing to wait for a rookie. ( psss hey guys it takes usually at least 3 years for qb’s to be any good)
Dan Henning is the sole reason the dolphins aren't a Superbowl Caliber team.
Also Logan mankins isn't a given?
running backs can be found but that is a pretty big risk we are taken what if the running back we get is a bust?
We have no running game.
rookie Qb doesn’t do well.
Dan Henning is the sole reason the dolphins aren't a Superbowl Caliber team.
okay, logan mankins isnt a given, true...but as for runningbacks its not that big of a risk, they can be found pretty easily
"I propose that Obama elimatinates the word 'unemployment' and replaces it with the word 'free agency.' This will fill Americans with hope of 100 mil. $ contracts."
by Cfrfootball39 on Dec 26, 2010 5:46 PM EST up reply actions
a good offensive line assures that your RB will not be a bust ....
"And my head I'd be scratchin' While my thoughts were busy hatchin'
If I only had a brain" --Dan Henning
"When a man's an empty kettle, He should be on his mettle
And yet I'm torn apart Just because I'm presumin'
That I could be a human, If I only had a heart" --Chad Henne
by Jason Scott_90 on Dec 26, 2010 5:48 PM EST up reply actions
very true, but im tired of second round qb's and safe first round lineman picks..lets switch it up...
we can find quality lineman elsewhere
"I propose that Obama elimatinates the word 'unemployment' and replaces it with the word 'free agency.' This will fill Americans with hope of 100 mil. $ contracts."
by Cfrfootball39 on Dec 26, 2010 5:50 PM EST up reply actions
obviously luck lol, but realistically
i have a huge mancrush on newton just because of potential even tho i know hes not the most nfl ready right now..i like locker more then mallet so it would prolly go luck, locker newton mallet with newton maybe being second if im feeling reall risky lol
"I propose that Obama elimatinates the word 'unemployment' and replaces it with the word 'free agency.' This will fill Americans with hope of 100 mil. $ contracts."
by Cfrfootball39 on Dec 26, 2010 5:53 PM EST up reply actions
No way the Fins land Luck
Locker… yes I like him a lot… I also like Mallet, but see a lot of Henne in him… I also think Newton is an amazing athlete, and has huge potential. But his potential is also equal to his possible bust
The Patriots Suck
yeah, thats why i didnt really include luck, but thats why im down on mallet i think it would be henne part two
yeah newton could be the next vick or the next russell…very riskyy
"I propose that Obama elimatinates the word 'unemployment' and replaces it with the word 'free agency.' This will fill Americans with hope of 100 mil. $ contracts."
by Cfrfootball39 on Dec 26, 2010 5:56 PM EST up reply actions
So unless Locker drops the the Fins
Which is very hard imagine… then I hope the Fins pass on QBs.
The Patriots Suck
i would trade up and get him we need to finnally take a risk
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by Cfrfootball39 on Dec 26, 2010 5:59 PM EST up reply actions
well obviously it depends on what team we trade with and what the need/ want but it can def. be done
"I propose that Obama elimatinates the word 'unemployment' and replaces it with the word 'free agency.' This will fill Americans with hope of 100 mil. $ contracts."
by Cfrfootball39 on Dec 26, 2010 6:01 PM EST up reply actions
Ok...
I guess it could, but do not think it will be that easy. The Fins do not have any players they can afford to trade, and do not have a 2nd round pick. Maybe a DL, but nothing to move the Fins up
The Patriots Suck
next year draft picks too
"I propose that Obama elimatinates the word 'unemployment' and replaces it with the word 'free agency.' This will fill Americans with hope of 100 mil. $ contracts."
by Cfrfootball39 on Dec 26, 2010 6:06 PM EST up reply actions
What players can we not afford to trade?
I can name several: Carey, Crowder, Henne, even Starks if we had to. And don’t start about how great Starks is. I know he’s a good player. But he’s a 3-4 DE and those aren’t nearly as important as franchise QBs. If trading Starks meant getting a franchise QB, then it would be worth it.
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the we would be getting gashed and coming from behind out of 2wr sets losing by a 7point defecit hb dives?
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Football is like life - it requires perseverance, self-denial, hard work, sacrifice, dedication and respect for authority.
Sharks are as tough as those football fans who take their shirts off during games in Chicago in January, only more intelligent.
People who work together will win, whether it be against complex football defenses, or the problems of modern society.
by Carl Johnson a.k.a CJ on Dec 26, 2010 6:09 PM EST up reply actions
Haha
Crowder combined with any picks will allow the Fins to move up. The OL is a big problem, now and don’t think Carey is expendable. Starks I guess… but don’t think they will and Henne (see Crowder)
The Patriots Suck
Too much atleticism and confidence to be a bust. Newton will be
legit.
Damn the sheriff, Bring on MARSHALL LAW
by fin4three5yrs on Dec 26, 2010 7:28 PM EST up reply actions
a Legit bust?
"Football is a game played with arms, legs and shoulders but mostly from the neck up"
Football is like life - it requires perseverance, self-denial, hard work, sacrifice, dedication and respect for authority.
Sharks are as tough as those football fans who take their shirts off during games in Chicago in January, only more intelligent.
People who work together will win, whether it be against complex football defenses, or the problems of modern society.
by Carl Johnson a.k.a CJ on Dec 26, 2010 7:29 PM EST up reply actions
this^
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Locker isn't having a good season, but will rise due to a great combine
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and i think hes gonna look great in his bowl game
anyone who doesnt like him needs to watch that game and get back to me. Dude is gonna good and wed be lucky and fortunate to get him
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Please, call me Bacon
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what day? what time? what station?
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"Give me a minute and I'll change your mind. Give me a bullet and I'll change your life" -Gematria - Slipknot - All Hope Is Gone
the holiday bowl on new years eve
At 7 or 8 i think
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and abc?
or espn? not sure the network but its the holiday bowl so a big one will carry it
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thanks
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"Give me a minute and I'll change your mind. Give me a bullet and I'll change your life" -Gematria - Slipknot - All Hope Is Gone
and youll even get to see him play against a corner whos going in the top 7 this april
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good teams always have good offensive and defensive lines ....
You win up front …. trying to win anywhere else is silly … How good was CJ Spiller this year?? How good would he have been on any other team with a good O-line?
"And my head I'd be scratchin' While my thoughts were busy hatchin'
If I only had a brain" --Dan Henning
"When a man's an empty kettle, He should be on his mettle
And yet I'm torn apart Just because I'm presumin'
That I could be a human, If I only had a heart" --Chad Henne
by Jason Scott_90 on Dec 26, 2010 6:26 PM EST up reply actions
But we have 2 choices at this point ....
1.) admit where we are now and take our lumps… Draft a QB and live through the learning stages, who will occasionally flash brilliance.
2.) keep ignoring the signs and take our lumps… Don’t draft a QB and wait for a couple of years until we realize that he is not going to do anything more than occasional flashes of brilliance followed by sheer idiotic plays bordering on the insane. He may get better at running the 2 minute drill, but he will never be great at it. We will always be close but not close enough with Henne.
"And my head I'd be scratchin' While my thoughts were busy hatchin'
If I only had a brain" --Dan Henning
"When a man's an empty kettle, He should be on his mettle
And yet I'm torn apart Just because I'm presumin'
That I could be a human, If I only had a heart" --Chad Henne
by Jason Scott_90 on Dec 26, 2010 5:48 PM EST up reply actions
never be great at it
Neve r be great at it
wut
wut
Henning is the one who puts him in the I in 2 minute drill
Henning also should help his qb with formation and play calls but whatever
Henne will get better all qb’s get better. Why can’t Henne be great at it? He’s run the 2 minute drill before?
Consistency is something you learn with time. Henne has shown flashes and may break out next year.
Look the thing is.
We get a good O-line and a good RB with our 1st and 3rd draft free agency whatever.
Now Lets say Henne does great, awesome we have a franchise QB.
Now lets say with a new OC a good O-line and a good running game he is the same.
Fine lets draft a new QB and now our rookie has this o-line and running game.
In the chad henne being a failure situation
Sure We may have lost a year
but our rookie qb isn’t going to lead us to a superbowl his first year either so we would have lost that year anyway
What we are gaining is a solid foundation for our new franchise.
Dan Henning is the sole reason the dolphins aren't a Superbowl Caliber team.
Come on....
Blame it on his OC, his head coach, his QB coach, whatever you want… But the guy is a full grown adult… not some 10 year old. He has to bear some blame for being so completely incompetent out there.
"And my head I'd be scratchin' While my thoughts were busy hatchin'
If I only had a brain" --Dan Henning
"When a man's an empty kettle, He should be on his mettle
And yet I'm torn apart Just because I'm presumin'
That I could be a human, If I only had a heart" --Chad Henne
by Jason Scott_90 on Dec 26, 2010 6:09 PM EST up reply actions
Henne is incompetent............
"Football is a game played with arms, legs and shoulders but mostly from the neck up"
Football is like life - it requires perseverance, self-denial, hard work, sacrifice, dedication and respect for authority.
Sharks are as tough as those football fans who take their shirts off during games in Chicago in January, only more intelligent.
People who work together will win, whether it be against complex football defenses, or the problems of modern society.
by Carl Johnson a.k.a CJ on Dec 26, 2010 6:10 PM EST up reply actions
Of course he has blame
but we can’t say that he will never get better
which is what you people are assuming
Dan Henning is the sole reason the dolphins aren't a Superbowl Caliber team.
I tought he was going forward, I think his transmission slipped a few gears and got suck in reverse??
"Football is a game played with arms, legs and shoulders but mostly from the neck up"
Football is like life - it requires perseverance, self-denial, hard work, sacrifice, dedication and respect for authority.
Sharks are as tough as those football fans who take their shirts off during games in Chicago in January, only more intelligent.
People who work together will win, whether it be against complex football defenses, or the problems of modern society.
by Carl Johnson a.k.a CJ on Dec 26, 2010 6:12 PM EST up reply actions
That is where I can at least distribute blame
No running game no OC and no O-line
Flacco and Ryan have those 3 things.
Henne of course is to blame for his bad performances
but he is our offense
And a young qb shouldn’t be our offense.
Dan Henning is the sole reason the dolphins aren't a Superbowl Caliber team.
if he is older than 10 he should know that is not the way to run a 2 min drill...
I just don’t know where you think he will go from here … so lets say he can run a 2 min drill as well as a really good 10 year old …. then what?? does he ever take that next step???
"And my head I'd be scratchin' While my thoughts were busy hatchin'
If I only had a brain" --Dan Henning
"When a man's an empty kettle, He should be on his mettle
And yet I'm torn apart Just because I'm presumin'
That I could be a human, If I only had a heart" --Chad Henne
by Jason Scott_90 on Dec 26, 2010 6:13 PM EST up reply actions
My point Jason, just cuase you can do 3/10 doesn't mean you'll able to do 9/10
"Football is a game played with arms, legs and shoulders but mostly from the neck up"
Football is like life - it requires perseverance, self-denial, hard work, sacrifice, dedication and respect for authority.
Sharks are as tough as those football fans who take their shirts off during games in Chicago in January, only more intelligent.
People who work together will win, whether it be against complex football defenses, or the problems of modern society.
by Carl Johnson a.k.a CJ on Dec 26, 2010 6:14 PM EST up reply actions
Besides ones with injuries
name some qb’s that don’t get better year to year
Dan Henning is the sole reason the dolphins aren't a Superbowl Caliber team.
With decent O-lines and running games
and competent Oc’s
Dan Henning is the sole reason the dolphins aren't a Superbowl Caliber team.
i would keep henne and the rookie q
have an open competition best qb wins..which i think would be any qb that is projected first round…also its hennes third year..idc if he sat that year he still took the time to learn…plus 2nd year qb’s show flashes all year henne has folded under the pressure…constantly looking bad
"I propose that Obama elimatinates the word 'unemployment' and replaces it with the word 'free agency.' This will fill Americans with hope of 100 mil. $ contracts."
by Cfrfootball39 on Dec 26, 2010 5:48 PM EST up reply actions
Agree
I think the Fins can address the Oline with Gardner coming back and leaving Incognito at center. Maybe a FA pick up or late round draft pick. But with Long, Gardner, Incognito, Jerry, Carey… it looks good!
RB needs to be addressed. I don’t think Ronnie or Ricky are bad, with a new OL and new play calling than I think they could work, but they are not the future and they need to be cheap.
QB is the big problem… not comfortable with a Rookie QB… its a big risk, and even if the QB works out to be a HOF, his first year is not going to be great.
Definitely need a new OC as well.
The Patriots Suck
jerry and carey would probably switch...i think there looking at making jerry our next right tackle
"I propose that Obama elimatinates the word 'unemployment' and replaces it with the word 'free agency.' This will fill Americans with hope of 100 mil. $ contracts."
by Cfrfootball39 on Dec 26, 2010 5:51 PM EST up reply actions
Sparano is a details oriented coach...The problem he can not take a step back and look at the big picture...
It isn’t about a call here or there, or a play here or there, it is a big picture problem you have. Your QB sucks. Your Offensive Coordinator sucks. Your conservative nature is not getting the job done. How does a head coach bear no blame for a 2 minute drill that awful?? For me, when he defended Henning instead of firing him last week, he was done. How can Ross not fire the guy after going 1-7 at home?? Home games are your bread and butter and when we are not even competing … how could you fault him for firing everyone but Mike Nolan?
"And my head I'd be scratchin' While my thoughts were busy hatchin'
If I only had a brain" --Dan Henning
"When a man's an empty kettle, He should be on his mettle
And yet I'm torn apart Just because I'm presumin'
That I could be a human, If I only had a heart" --Chad Henne
100% agree, J Scott, if it quacks like a duck, it's a duck!
Damn the sheriff, Bring on MARSHALL LAW
by fin4three5yrs on Dec 26, 2010 7:31 PM EST up reply actions
Why am I not surprised everybody is giving the D a pass?
If the D had done their jobs in the first place. Henne wouldn’t have been in the situation of trying to put the team on his shoulders by throwing the ball. I know it’s the popular thing right now to blame Henne, but let’s give credit where credit is due.
I used to think I had a drinking problem.
So I stopped thinking.
i think the D is getting a pass because they have been pretty consistant all year so everyone is worth a let down
but when the Offense sucks the defense has bailed us out, when the D has struggled the O has yet to return the favor…jus sayinn
"I propose that Obama elimatinates the word 'unemployment' and replaces it with the word 'free agency.' This will fill Americans with hope of 100 mil. $ contracts."
by Cfrfootball39 on Dec 26, 2010 5:54 PM EST up reply actions
Consistent at
Getting stats but not making the big plays when they count.
3rd & 14, we give up a 15 yard play (Jets)
Dropped INTs— this D is nearly last in the AFC in takeaways (cost us the CLE game)
Failure to pressure the QB when it counts (hurts us each week)
Failure to cover a TE
Failure to defend the screen/underneath route
When we pin a team inside their 20 or 10, we let ’em off the hook with a long drive to flip field position.
Our defense is very good, but they have room to get better.
You can not blame our defense for 7-8 this year ....
Most of those losses were because of offense…. even the games where the defense shared the blame a better offense would have won the game for us. Our defense is top 5 …. how can you complain about that considering our offense is bottom 5… possibly even bottom 1. How do we get better fast?? We need to upgrade the offense.
"And my head I'd be scratchin' While my thoughts were busy hatchin'
If I only had a brain" --Dan Henning
"When a man's an empty kettle, He should be on his mettle
And yet I'm torn apart Just because I'm presumin'
That I could be a human, If I only had a heart" --Chad Henne
by Jason Scott_90 on Dec 26, 2010 6:35 PM EST up reply actions
If Henning was a nascar drive boy would his sponsors be pisssed off
Henning leads, only two laps to go and he eases off the gas and gets passed by like what 15 cars, the sponsors have a wtf moment
"Football is a game played with arms, legs and shoulders but mostly from the neck up"
Football is like life - it requires perseverance, self-denial, hard work, sacrifice, dedication and respect for authority.
Sharks are as tough as those football fans who take their shirts off during games in Chicago in January, only more intelligent.
People who work together will win, whether it be against complex football defenses, or the problems of modern society.
by Carl Johnson a.k.a CJ on Dec 26, 2010 6:37 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
LMAO
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No, but in a team game
There is plenty of blame to go around.
Defense made Sanchez look all-pro in our house
Defense could have ended the CLE game with a pick-6
ST cost us the Pats game in our house
Offense was putrid the last few games
7-8 is not because of any one thing. It’s caused by failure to consistently execute in all phases of the game.
The d did not throw 2 crucial ints in the waning minutes of the game.
Damn the sheriff, Bring on MARSHALL LAW
by fin4three5yrs on Dec 26, 2010 7:32 PM EST up reply actions
No, they only allowed a huge TD to Best on a screen
And failed to cover the TE on another big TD.
ST holding put the offense in terrible position for the last drive.
It’s a team game, and a team loss.
No, the D just gave up a 27-17 4th QTR lead.
And up until that point Henne hadn’t thrown a single pick. So yeah, let’s blame Henne for the loss.
I used to think I had a drinking problem.
So I stopped thinking.
Then when Henne was called upon to lead the team and win the game at the end (something that QBs are called to do)
he failed miserably.
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Proponent of I-AA Football
Driving the Roberto Wallace Bandwagon
Driving the Trade Up and Draft Andrew Luck Bandwagon
Unofficial Phinsider DJ
He led them to a lead? What more do you want?
Oh that’s right, you’re one of those unrealistic expectations guys. Never happy, always want more. Sorry to break it to ya’. Henne’s not going anywhere. He WILL be the Miami Dolphins starter in 2011, assuming there is a season in 2011.
I used to think I had a drinking problem.
So I stopped thinking.
What more do I want?
I want my QB to play like a QB is supposed to play. I want him to make accurate throws to his WRs, not wildly inaccurate throws that become picks or passed defensed or batted passes.
And if he is the starting QB as you say he will, then we WILL suffer through another miserable mediocre season.
aka "The Duke"
Proponent of I-AA Football
Driving the Roberto Wallace Bandwagon
Driving the Trade Up and Draft Andrew Luck Bandwagon
Unofficial Phinsider DJ
Chad Henne has no anticipation
"Football is a game played with arms, legs and shoulders but mostly from the neck up"
Football is like life - it requires perseverance, self-denial, hard work, sacrifice, dedication and respect for authority.
Sharks are as tough as those football fans who take their shirts off during games in Chicago in January, only more intelligent.
People who work together will win, whether it be against complex football defenses, or the problems of modern society.
by Carl Johnson a.k.a CJ on Dec 26, 2010 8:41 PM EST up reply actions
It's not that he lacks anticipation.
It’s that he doesn’t have the trust yet to trust his WR to be where they’re supposed to be. That’s not an easy thing to learn at the NFL level. Especially when you aren’t throwing to fast receivers.
I used to think I had a drinking problem.
So I stopped thinking.
thats no excuse look at all the other qbs that came out in his draft class "nearly" all have better anticipation that him
"Football is a game played with arms, legs and shoulders but mostly from the neck up"
Football is like life - it requires perseverance, self-denial, hard work, sacrifice, dedication and respect for authority.
Sharks are as tough as those football fans who take their shirts off during games in Chicago in January, only more intelligent.
People who work together will win, whether it be against complex football defenses, or the problems of modern society.
by Carl Johnson a.k.a CJ on Dec 26, 2010 10:32 PM EST up reply actions
All of them? Really?
I find it hard to believe that the following QBs have better anticipation than Henne: Brian Brohm, Kevin O’Connell, John David Booty, Erik Ainge, Colt Brennan, Andre Woodson, and Alex Brink. By the way, most of the guys I just listed aren’t even in the NFL anymore. But I’m assuming you meant out of the ones still playing in the NFL. Which would mean:
Matt Ryan – Better offense and OL
Joe Flacco – Better offense and OL
Dennis Dixon – Better offense and OL
Josh Johnson – Better WR corp (Yes, I think Tampa Bay’s WR corp is better than ours)
Matt Flynn – Better WR corp
Yeah, that’s a fair comparison.
I used to think I had a drinking problem.
So I stopped thinking.
Most of those guys have better running backs
except matt flynn
Dan Henning is the sole reason the dolphins aren't a Superbowl Caliber team.
Tampas WR doesnt even come close
"Football is a game played with arms, legs and shoulders but mostly from the neck up"
Football is like life - it requires perseverance, self-denial, hard work, sacrifice, dedication and respect for authority.
Sharks are as tough as those football fans who take their shirts off during games in Chicago in January, only more intelligent.
People who work together will win, whether it be against complex football defenses, or the problems of modern society.
by Carl Johnson a.k.a CJ on Dec 27, 2010 7:23 PM EST up reply actions
Are you sure about that?
Mike Williams – 6’2" deep threat having a better statistical year than Marshall and he’s a rookie.
Arrelious Benn – 6’2" deep threat, who’s also a rookie, and has a much better upside than Hartline.
Michael Spurlock – Bess has better hands, but Spurlock is a big play threat.
Kellen Winslow Jr. – I don’t even need to explain this one.
I used to think I had a drinking problem.
So I stopped thinking.
Mike Williams 61 924 15.1 58T 10
Brandon Marshall 81 917 11.3 46 3
Arrelious Benn 25 395 15.8 64 2
Brian Hartline 43 615 14.3 54 1
Kellen Winslow 63 702 11.1 41T 5
Anthony Fasano 39 528 13.5 31 4
Micahel Spurlock 17 250 14.7 43 2
Davone Bess 76 785 10.3 29 4
btw thos guys aren’t 6’2 cause they barely cracked 6’1 at the combine where did the magical inches come from?
The only argument you have is Mike Williams, because Fasano doesnt get the ball much, and Spurlock has been in the league what 5 years?, and Bess has way more recs and yards than him wow
"Football is a game played with arms, legs and shoulders but mostly from the neck up"
Football is like life - it requires perseverance, self-denial, hard work, sacrifice, dedication and respect for authority.
Sharks are as tough as those football fans who take their shirts off during games in Chicago in January, only more intelligent.
People who work together will win, whether it be against complex football defenses, or the problems of modern society.
by Carl Johnson a.k.a CJ on Dec 27, 2010 8:09 PM EST up reply actions
Did you put the statistics up to convince yourself?
So all you got in your defense is, I fat fingered their height, what I already said about Bess, and Fasano doesn’t get the ball much? Hell, either does Spurlock or Benn. Yet, they both have a better YPC, and Benn has more TDs than Hartline in half the receptions. Why? Because they are all play makers, something our WR corp severely lacks.
I used to think I had a drinking problem.
So I stopped thinking.
ROFL
"Football is a game played with arms, legs and shoulders but mostly from the neck up"
Football is like life - it requires perseverance, self-denial, hard work, sacrifice, dedication and respect for authority.
Sharks are as tough as those football fans who take their shirts off during games in Chicago in January, only more intelligent.
People who work together will win, whether it be against complex football defenses, or the problems of modern society.
by Carl Johnson a.k.a CJ on Dec 26, 2010 8:42 PM EST up reply actions
btw here's the new dolphins anthem :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8bzZEtOcb8
"Football is a game played with arms, legs and shoulders but mostly from the neck up"
Football is like life - it requires perseverance, self-denial, hard work, sacrifice, dedication and respect for authority.
Sharks are as tough as those football fans who take their shirts off during games in Chicago in January, only more intelligent.
People who work together will win, whether it be against complex football defenses, or the problems of modern society.
by Carl Johnson a.k.a CJ on Dec 26, 2010 8:43 PM EST up reply actions
I'm just sick
this sucks so bad, took my sister . a huge dolfan out for her b-day to see this game , a game we should have won and what do they do… stink up the place in the 4th . at least I hope off4l had a good time at halftime. would have liked to get a victory for my sis, she’s a trooper. sure hope we can look to next year and have a new o c and a new qb, oh and some o line improvements. henne is not the answer, never has been. poor decisions, holds the ball too long , can’t read defense, locks on too much all in all a great backup qb. sparano has potential, but it may be too late for him,too many excuses being made by him , he should have grabbed the bull by the horns and fired henning 5 games ago. cowher ain’t the answer either. he’s a defensive coach and that we don’t need
I think while its obvious that our main needs are all on the offensive side of the ball Cowher
could still bring some things to this team that are sorely needed. My opinion on Sparano changed a couple of weeks ago when before the half and at the end of the game we had two 2min drills to run and the entire offensive side of the ball seemed lost, unmotivated and lacked any sense of urgency. If its one player that screws up then you might call out that player but when there is a issue that has happened during the season over and over and then happens before the half and then again at the end of the game we are left to assume that a) the coaches just have no clue, have not notice and just are not addressing it or b) the overall level of discipline and preparation are shit. Either way all that falls in the lap of the head coach and those are not things that happen under a Cowher. I look at the Dallas situation as a great example. They were one of if not the worst teams in the NFL when they fired their HC who by all accounts is a great defensive coordinator but a shit HC. It was defense that was sinking that team but once the team was handed over to the offensive coordinator, who by all reports runs a tighter ship, things seemed to turn around on both sides of the ball. That team still has issues on defense but there is no denying that they played much better and much more disciplined once the change was made. Garett by the way likens his coaching style to that of Jummy Johnson who he was a back up QB under for years.
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by texascowpunk on Dec 27, 2010 2:26 AM EST up reply actions
This team needs to stop taking things out of Camerons, and past head coaches, a 2nd round qb is not a sure thing. Gamble and take the lost, atleast you tried!
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by Carl Johnson a.k.a CJ on Dec 26, 2010 6:41 PM EST reply actions
I laughed at a tweet do you think Henne is worst than Beck
you cant compare the 2 because 1. Beck had no time to pass which I think contributed to him having the fumblits, 2. he had no running game, and 3 no legit number 1 receiver. Beck’s decision making is 10X better than Mr.Iseealinebackercoming let me get rid of it into quadrupple coverage!
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Football is like life - it requires perseverance, self-denial, hard work, sacrifice, dedication and respect for authority.
Sharks are as tough as those football fans who take their shirts off during games in Chicago in January, only more intelligent.
People who work together will win, whether it be against complex football defenses, or the problems of modern society.
by Carl Johnson a.k.a CJ on Dec 26, 2010 6:53 PM EST reply actions
And you're basing this off of what exactly?
John Beck’s long storied career of 5 games played in the NFL in 4 years. Yeah, he must be good.
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you can say that cause looking at his tape all the ints came off Hagan angd Ginn, along with slow old man Booker
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Football is like life - it requires perseverance, self-denial, hard work, sacrifice, dedication and respect for authority.
Sharks are as tough as those football fans who take their shirts off during games in Chicago in January, only more intelligent.
People who work together will win, whether it be against complex football defenses, or the problems of modern society.
by Carl Johnson a.k.a CJ on Dec 26, 2010 8:21 PM EST up reply actions
atleast beck threw into the seams of the soft zones and completed passes instead of throwing into them to the players!
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by Carl Johnson a.k.a CJ on Dec 26, 2010 8:26 PM EST up reply actions
Yes he threw into those seams with an average 56% comp. rate.
Not to mention that ridiculous amount of fumbles. 7 fumbles in 5 games! That is just downright disturbing. I’m still amazed this guy is still in the NFL.
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So I stopped thinking.
but what to say he wouldn't have been better than Henne with what we have now? Your Rookie season doesnt determine your career, it can be your most horrible season as long as you build off it and learn from your mistakes and fix them.
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Football is like life - it requires perseverance, self-denial, hard work, sacrifice, dedication and respect for authority.
Sharks are as tough as those football fans who take their shirts off during games in Chicago in January, only more intelligent.
People who work together will win, whether it be against complex football defenses, or the problems of modern society.
by Carl Johnson a.k.a CJ on Dec 26, 2010 8:37 PM EST up reply actions
btw Beck didnt have Henning , imagine Henne without Henning, his head would've been called long ago
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Football is like life - it requires perseverance, self-denial, hard work, sacrifice, dedication and respect for authority.
Sharks are as tough as those football fans who take their shirts off during games in Chicago in January, only more intelligent.
People who work together will win, whether it be against complex football defenses, or the problems of modern society.
by Carl Johnson a.k.a CJ on Dec 26, 2010 8:38 PM EST up reply actions
You're right he didn't have Henning.
He had a better OC in Cam Cameron. So what’s your point?
Imagine Henne without Henning? I see great things happening, not sure where you’re trying to go with that.
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So I stopped thinking.
John Beck was a rookie 4 years ago!
Trust me his career wasn’t set his rookie year. It’s been set by being a 3rd string QB for the past 4 years. He can’t even beat out Rex Grossman in Washington. What on earth makes you think he’d beat out Henne?
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He's got more tools than Henne
Not every qb fits the west coast offense, some translate easier than others. Henne fools no one, play action fakes are horrible might as well be a telegraph, dare I mention soft zones?? Henne is not athletic at all, why do you think he’s called the robot? He can’t stare a safety down to save his life, as some stated he’s a choke artist. The only valuable asset Henne has is a cannon arm and those are dime a dozen. He gives up on plays early, getting sick of tuck and take sacks! I’ve noticed one of his biggest flaws he can’t move and keep his eyes down field a thing most elite quarterbacks can do. Henne will give up on the play go back to the sideline and alienate himself after throwing a int what qb does that?
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People who work together will win, whether it be against complex football defenses, or the problems of modern society.
by Carl Johnson a.k.a CJ on Dec 26, 2010 8:52 PM EST up reply actions
well, its official
I never want to see Chad Henne line up as a Miami Dolphin ever again. He obviously isn’t ever going to be a successful QB in the NFL and its time for us to move on.
Sorry Chad Henne, we gave you your shot and you went 1-7 on home turf this season. Time for the FO to figure out how to obtain a new QB to start next season.
PS- Dolphins just lost to the Lions, at home, wow.
fuuny thing is that at Mich9igan when they lost to Ohio it was always at home! ROFLMFAO
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by Carl Johnson a.k.a CJ on Dec 26, 2010 6:55 PM EST up reply actions
he also went 7-1 on the road
lol wut
Dan Henning is the sole reason the dolphins aren't a Superbowl Caliber team.
i don't care
he just lost to the Lions at home and he literally looks clueless when he scrambles. I have never seen a worse QB moving out of the pocket in my life. Seriously, he embarrassed himself / ended his career today IMO
I actually agree with you on this... LOL
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he throws into quaddrupple coverage when he sees a linebacker coming lol
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Sharks are as tough as those football fans who take their shirts off during games in Chicago in January, only more intelligent.
People who work together will win, whether it be against complex football defenses, or the problems of modern society.
by Carl Johnson a.k.a CJ on Dec 26, 2010 7:03 PM EST up reply actions
what channel is the sec championship game
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by Carl Johnson a.k.a CJ on Dec 26, 2010 7:05 PM EST up reply actions
cbs thing
I dont know its cbs college sports network?
Dan Henning is the sole reason the dolphins aren't a Superbowl Caliber team.
what channel is that lol
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Football is like life - it requires perseverance, self-denial, hard work, sacrifice, dedication and respect for authority.
Sharks are as tough as those football fans who take their shirts off during games in Chicago in January, only more intelligent.
People who work together will win, whether it be against complex football defenses, or the problems of modern society.
by Carl Johnson a.k.a CJ on Dec 26, 2010 7:09 PM EST up reply actions
You're basing your argument
on 1-7 at home
But he’s about to go 7-1 on the road
don’ those cancel out?
lulzulzulzz
Dan Henning is the sole reason the dolphins aren't a Superbowl Caliber team.
He's more likely to go 6-2 on the road
I admire the optimism, but he’s not going to beat NE unless they sit everyone and they likely won’t.
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You don't understand how magical our season is
Win lose win lose Thats why we are going to go 8-8
1-7 at home
7-1 on the road
It’s meant to be dude.
Dan Henning is the sole reason the dolphins aren't a Superbowl Caliber team.
Well we broke the alternating streak today
by losing 2 in a row
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by The Earl on Dec 26, 2010 7:10 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
We won 2 in a row to begin the season
we lost the next 2
it’s about to happen again broteps
8-8 it’s our destiny
I wish there were something I could bet but i’d bet a lot of munnies that we beat the patriots next week.
Dan Henning is the sole reason the dolphins aren't a Superbowl Caliber team.
There are a lot of things I would say about this season .....
Of those things … “Magical” is definitely not one of them….
"And my head I'd be scratchin' While my thoughts were busy hatchin'
If I only had a brain" --Dan Henning
"When a man's an empty kettle, He should be on his mettle
And yet I'm torn apart Just because I'm presumin'
That I could be a human, If I only had a heart" --Chad Henne
by Jason Scott_90 on Dec 26, 2010 7:32 PM EST up reply actions
No man, defense, DC$, and fields accounted for our away wins.
Damn the sheriff, Bring on MARSHALL LAW
by fin4three5yrs on Dec 26, 2010 7:36 PM EST up reply actions
So i'm watching the SEC championship game right now
Cameron Newton will take at least 4 years to develop
he is a pretty bad QB
he is a physical freak though.
Dan Henning is the sole reason the dolphins aren't a Superbowl Caliber team.
Just saw this on twitter:
When I asked Ross about evaluation for Sparano & Ireland, he said he’s "starting to evaluate now. You’ve seen what’s going on, you know?"
IOW, Sparano is gone.
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Well if TS goes, then Henne likely goes with him
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goes with him?
Where?
The Carolina Panthers? I honestly think id take Tony Pike over Chad Henne. But not Clausen, I think Clausen is one of a very select few that are actually worse than Chad Henne.
Chad Henne literally might end up as a bottom 5 NFL QB this season.
He will go away...
where is irrelevant, as long as its away.
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true
but Tony/ Dan has to be fired
Dan Henning is the sole reason the dolphins aren't a Superbowl Caliber team.
No D, a player who does not follow what he is instructed to do loses.
Damn the sheriff, Bring on MARSHALL LAW
by fin4three5yrs on Dec 26, 2010 7:38 PM EST up reply actions
Lolz
He started evaluating when he heard Cowher said the Fins was one of the teams he would like to coach
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by JP 23 on Dec 26, 2010 7:12 PM EST via mobile reply actions
The Packers are up 45-17 and Rodgers has over 400 yards passing
They play to win games unlike the dolphins who play to lose. Once we were up by 10 points we should have been aggressive.
Dolphins + Aggresive is like saying...
Jerffery Dahmer and Sane.
Just doesn’t make any sense.
Dolphins Defense lost me my fantasy football finals today. Thanks Chad Henne… you SUCK and I would Boo you and the whole Dolphins team if I saw you walking down the tunnel. You don’t deserve a pat on the back. You deserve to be booed as you make millions of dollars to continually fail and embarass the miami dolphins franchise.
Oh, I also went against Aaron Rodgers too.
that sucks
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yep
2nd place.
I already lost and I have Vick and Michael Turner still but its a foregone conclusion that I lost already.
Thats what happens when you play Jamaal Charles, Foster, Rodgers, Mike Williams and Mike Wallace. Game Over.
Im counting on Vick to help me win
Im down by just under 20 i think with just him left to play
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Rex Grossman looked better than Henne
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by Carl Johnson a.k.a CJ on Dec 26, 2010 7:26 PM EST up reply actions
Coolit now, D. A bit too much.
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by fin4three5yrs on Dec 26, 2010 7:40 PM EST up reply actions
I would make a statement about the Dolphins and Rodgers
but Enhalen might go Super Saiyen again.
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what else is there to say beyond
Dolphins- on the same level as the Seahawks and 49ers
Aaron Rodgers- franchise QB that has ability and poise,
What else could someone say besides that?
Just think about the 2005 draft and it will come to you
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AAAAAAAHHHHHHH STOOOOOOOOOOOOPPPPPPPP ITTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!
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yes
i am suggesting that im as awesome as Michael Phelps
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um... we drafted a RB that year .... what are you trying to say ...
That we should draft a franchise QB over a franchise RB??
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If I only had a brain" --Dan Henning
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And yet I'm torn apart Just because I'm presumin'
That I could be a human, If I only had a heart" --Chad Henne
by Jason Scott_90 on Dec 26, 2010 7:35 PM EST up reply actions
YES...
Franchise QB >>> Franchise RB
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Yes... he deserves some blame
and vindication will come when Alabama has to vacate wins, including the NC in a few years after the inevitable recruiting scandal or other violations.
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Just go look at our past drafts
Just prepare yourself mentally. The only decent draft was the 2008 draft and even then, it looks like we could have made a mistake by passing up Ryan.
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so.... what you are basically saying is ....
We should go after a QB in 1st round of the draft ….. what a weird concept …. not sure I am following you… learns to use the sarcasm box, then uses it on the last 2 posts
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by Jason Scott_90 on Dec 26, 2010 7:44 PM EST up reply actions
lol
Exactly
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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by wild zion beaver on Dec 27, 2010 11:29 AM EST up reply actions
If we had the same FO now as we did then...
Instead of drafting ronnie brown we would have traded fourteen times so we could pick 12 OLBs and 4 Defensive Ends from Penn State, Utah and Fresno State.
“Building the trenches”
I still can’t get over that Chad Henne is literally a bottom 5 NFL QB. Anyone want to name 5 worse starting QBs in the NFL?
I believe we just lost to one...
…..
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by Little Nicky 21 on Dec 27, 2010 3:36 AM EST up reply actions
Yes
Yes I will
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The obvious Chad henne hating has started again am i right
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Well "started" is misleading
and it never really ended in order to be “started”. LOL
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by The Earl on Dec 26, 2010 7:39 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
i wouldn;t say the hating started...its jsut that...
the liking never even started. All that chad henne has proven is that he lacks skill simply. Forget the decision making, forget the turnovers, forget the leadership. He straight up lacks skills.
Thats where teams start. Skill level and he sucks.
Who are you and what have you done with DRoyce? LOL
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its so disheartening because Chad was playing a really solid game
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when?
Keep in mind we were playing the Lions and that watching Chad Henne scramble can be shown in “what not to do” QB videos in mini camps.
Yes, because scrambling ability defines how good a QB is.
Ever heard of Dan Marino? The WORST scrambling QB ever?
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I don't think scrambling is the proper term here
Brady, like Marino, isn’t going to get yardage with his feet. He’s not going to “scramble” to get yards. But Brady, like Marino, is very good at using footwork to avoid a rush. They can buy that extra few seconds to make a play. Henne can, but isn’t that consistent at it.
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As I'm sure both Brady and Marino were in their first two years as starters right?
We get it. You don’t like him. You want to trade our whole draft and next years for Jake Locker. This will all be easier for you the sooner you just accept the fact that Henne will be our starter next year. Regardless of how much you complain, it’s inevitable.
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by luvs2drnk on Dec 26, 2010 8:39 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Marino was MVP in his second season and had a Super Bowl appearance
Brady had a Super Bowl ring and a Super Bowl MVP. So yeah, they were good enough to get the job done.
And I would trade what was necessary to get a franchise QB. And it would be worth it. You can draft your TEs and WRs and RBs and O-Linemen and suffer through yet another crappy season of Henne and then you will have no excuse.
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Everyone else including beat writers, analysts, and NFL experts agree that Henne is not a good QB
No one is saying “Just give Henne a new OC” or “Give him more time to develop”. They all say that the Dolphins are in the QB market yet again. Why is it that obvious to everyone else, but not you?
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By all means, please show me all these links.
Don’t bother with beat writers, let’s stick with analysts and NFL experts. I’d like to see this plethora of opinions saying Henne IS NOT A GOOD QB.
Because the only thing obvious here is that Henne will be our starter next year. But you go right on slamming him, it’s obviously enjoyable to you. But it won’t help you accept the fact he’s going to be our starter next year.
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by luvs2drnk on Dec 26, 2010 8:55 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I have a better idea:
You find ONE site or writer that says the QB is NOT an issue with this team. According to you, that’s the least of our worries. Find someone, ANYONE who agrees with you.
Henne may be the starting QB next year out of default. While you are at peace with that, NO ONE else is. If he starts next year, we’ll end up around .500 again, not be in position to take a QB and you’ll still be making excuses as to why its a bad idea to trade up and get one. What will you say next year? Give Henne a 4th starting season to prove what he can do? He clearly is not the answer. And he may start next year, but only out of default. Whoever is in charge of the football operations next year will have his replacement either waiting behind him for his inevitable failure or will get a veteran to replace him as a starter.
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Why am I finding supporting evidence to something I never claimed?
It’s your argument that EVERYONE says he’s a bad QB. I have not given any statement that anyone is saying anything. I’ve simply stated what my personal opinion is.
As for people agreeing with my opinion, there are a few on this site who agree with me, which would fulfill your ANYONE request. As would this guy too even though he’s a beat writer: http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/12/26/1989391/the-right-call-is-to-stick-with.html . But I digress, I don’t really feel the need to defend Henne anymore. There really isn’t a point because he’s going to get another year to prove himself regardless of what anyone thinks or wants. He will then be playing in what would essentially be a contract year. Because unless he produces next year under new coordination and most likely all around coaching, he’s unlikely to re-sign and will have a hard time finding another starting gig in the NFL.
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I read that as well
But again, we’re just going in circles. We’ve both said what we think and its going nowhere.
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If Henne is the starter next year it will be with Sparano and probably Henning as coaches.
I don’t think a new coaching staff, Head Coach and OC, will use the previous regimes QB.
A new Coaching Staff is suppose to bring in change. Playing the QB from the previous regime, the same QB that got that regime fired, isn’t change. I would doubt that Henne starts with a new coaching staff.
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I tend to think they would keep Henne as the starter.
Especially considering the options available for coach. Now if he falters under their new system, all bets are off. But if he plays well enough to win, as I think he can, he’ll remain the starter.
The thing you have to take into consideration is the holes that need to be fixed next year if a new regime comes in. We have an OL that needs an overhaul in the interior. All of our RB will be FA. No speed at the WR position. It is more beneficial to a new FO to address those areas with our current draft picks and hand the reigns to Henne. If he succeeds and they fulfill all those areas we could very well be a legit Super Bowl contender. If he doesn’t, then they will already have all the pieces for a rookie or veteran to come in the following year.
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So I stopped thinking.
I can't think of many new FO's that have taken over a failing franchise and kept that failing franchises pick at QB.
It just doesn’t happen.
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How new are we talking about?
Give me a time frame so I can give you examples to counter your argument. I’ll give some examples anyway. Let me preface this as the criteria I used. These coaches took over franchises that were not making the playoffs and had multiple losing seasons before the new coach arrived. Also, that they had success with that QB.
Is 1992 too far back? Cause Bill Cowher took over a failing Steelers franchise that had only been to the playoffs once in the previous seven years, and led them to the playoffs with Noll’s pick at QB Neil O’Donnell.
In 2003 Marvin Lewis kept Kitna around for another year before going with Palmer.
Also in 2003 Parcells stuck with Quincy Carter in Dallas.
In 1996 Tony Dungy stuck with Trent Dilfer in Tampa Bay.
In 1999 when Holmgren took over in Seattle he stuck with Jon Kitna for two years.
In 2007 Ken Whisenhunt took over for Denny Green and kept Kurt Warner.
I guess it does happen after all.
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by luvs2drnk on Dec 27, 2010 3:41 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
I don't know man
Chad Henne has lost every big game he has played in his career and he is about has marketable as genital shaped pasta.
I really think theres a chance that Chad Henne gets cut. ESPECIALLY if there is some coaching staff turnover. A new staff would have no reason to “stick it out with Henne” for one more year,
Dan Marino lost every big game in his career.
Is he a failure?
Actually a new FO would have plenty of reasons to stick with Henne, if only for one more year. If they draft a replacement, they won’t want to throw him to the wolves right away. Not to mention I’m pretty sure they would want to see for themselves if Henne is salvageable.
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by luvs2drnk on Dec 27, 2010 3:01 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
why are you saying things like your so proud
that Chad Henne is going to be the QB next year? You do realize that this isn’t a good thing?
Are you just really proud about this so you just keep saying it ?
I don't recall ever saying I was proud.
I have said I’m comfortable that he will be our starter next year, as long as there’s a new OC in place.
As for it not being a good thing, that’s your personal opinion and you’re entitled to it.
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I was talking about their scrambling abillity actually, as that was the topic.
I know you would trade whatever it takes. Which is why you don’t work in an NFL front office. Cause front offices that do so, don’t keep their jobs long.
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by luvs2drnk on Dec 26, 2010 8:51 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
There is a word for front office people who don't have or can't get a franchise QB
Unemployed
We passed on Matt Ryan and now he’s a franchise QB. Meanwhile, we are questioning Henne and this FO and coaching staff are about to get fired.
And there is a good reason that YOU don’t work in an NFL FO as well. You’d draft all these auxiliary pieces while sticking behind a crappy QB. You’d remain mediocre and you’d be out of work in a few years anyway.
Meanwhile, I’d trade up to get a franchise guy. And if he becomes that franchise guy, my team will contend and you will be out of work. When teams don’t get a franchise QB, then they lose and people lose their job. Its that simple. We are a prime example.
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Well that's a difference in opinion.
You already don’t believe he is a franchise QB.
I said I would need another year of evaluation with a better OC. My solution has more upside, and would be an easier sell to the owner. Mortgaging the future of the team for a crap shoot draft pick, is a quick way to hit the unemployment line. Especially if that draft pick busts. Now you’re out a QB and draft picks. Not only will you be unemployed, you’ll also most likely be blacklisted from ever working in the NFL again. Matt Millen anyone? Mike Ditka anyone?
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So I stopped thinking.
Its no more of a risk than the current FO took
Of course if the guy you picked to be “your guy” fails, then its going to get you fired. And the new coach is off the hook if he keeps him. If he pans out, then he’s a genius. If not, then he lets him go because it wasn’t his guy.
But from what I’ve seen, Henne doesn’t have what it takes. He will not be anything more than what he is.
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i don't know if your talking to me but
I don’t want to take “Jake Locker.” I don’t think he would be any better than Chad Henne. If we panic and somehow trade to obtain Jake Locker or Ryan Mallet… well then wow, the Dolphins will suck.
Royce wasn't he rated higher than BRadford, before he went back to school to finish as he promised his parents, and he's surrounded by mediocre talent on offense ?
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by Carl Johnson a.k.a CJ on Dec 27, 2010 6:37 PM EST up reply actions
Henne tucks and prepares for the sack!
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by Carl Johnson a.k.a CJ on Dec 26, 2010 8:40 PM EST up reply actions
its not hating
its watching him play and understanding that he’s not fit to continue starting and that a new and young replacement is needed
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im not convinced of that
and alot of things went wrong in this game bro.
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i dont care
Henne makes a handful of BAD passes and decisions a game
Im tired of making excuses for him
I want to trade everything for Luck or Locker
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more than a hand full
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by Carl Johnson a.k.a CJ on Dec 26, 2010 7:45 PM EST up reply actions
the fact is this.
weve invested so much in Chads devolpment maybe not finacially, but in the sense that this organizations credibility really relies on Chad.
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No this regimes does
They need to go for picking him
No regime gets a second chance when THEIR guy is failing this bad
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those are harsh words.
Frankly i see improvement in Chad. i really do. He continues to make mistakes. He does. But Chad is playing better under pressure now then he ever has. We have ALOT of problems om the offensive side of the ball. But Chad to me has shown devolpment in many areas that he hasnt gotten credit for. I believe Tony should stay, and that he deserves to make the longterm decision with Chad but im not convinced like some of you.
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i thought Chad played a really solid game last week against Buffalo.
he did thingds i hadnt seen from Chad. He had a great outing today as well until the final 5 minutes.
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It was the bills
who Brady made look stupid today
I want a franchise QB like Brady who makes the defense pay instead of worrying fans every time he hikes the ball
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top 5 secondary
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How has Henne improved?
Hes lost 8 games in a row as a starter at home and has turned into an interception machine. Yeah our line might be worse this year but cmon we did bring in a legit number 1 wr in for him which should BE HUGE for a young guy like Henne
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Ya know Brandon
is not free of blame in all this. You need to realize that.
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what does he have to take blame for?
the guy is 81 recs and 80 some yards from a 1k year….
Stop wasting draft picks on trash heap quarterbacks.
Hes had two straight 10 reception games
and had he not gotten hurt probably wouldve continued his catching streak. Marshall hasnt done anything wrong IMO outside of a few minor things.
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hes dropped his fair share of balls this year bro. hes also fanned on some key blocks.
Brandon is a great player and a key asset to the offense but he has made mistakes this season too
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He hasnt turned the ball over
I cant believe you actually think Brandon deserves some of the blame for the offense
Unbelieveable
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And hasn't made big plays.
Dropped a key TD in he cincy game.
There is a lot of blame to share.
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Hmmmm.....how is he supposed to make big plays when Henne puts in areas that doesnt allow him to run after the catch most the time, or better yet when he's double teamed?
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by Carl Johnson a.k.a CJ on Dec 27, 2010 6:38 PM EST up reply actions
you just answered your own question
he isn’t going to get yac if he is being doubled all the time…
Dan Henning is the sole reason the dolphins aren't a Superbowl Caliber team.
I was answering someone else
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by Carl Johnson a.k.a CJ on Dec 27, 2010 7:51 PM EST up reply actions
last week Chad made two throws that previously i would of told you he wasnt capable of making
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Good for him
He threw a handful of throws today I thought he had learned how to make already
Hes regressing and its pretty obvious
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hes not regressing
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Then tell me why hes not
Cuz I just watched my supposed frranchise QB have yet another 4th quarter meltdown against a below average secondary
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well lets talk about the two picks
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Sure
Bess fell down so Ill give him that one. But the other? Not to mention the batted balls because hes throwing too low (the oppsoing defense has talked about all season) and the awful decsion to check down to Brown at the end when we needed 6 with less than 30 seconds left
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1. well the first was a micommunication. Something we see from our offense especially on hot reads. Mickey Schuller slowed on the route. SOmething that took Chad by surprise because of the zone. This is a young player not in line with his quarterback. Yes this is Chads responibility. But that is devolpmental mistake.
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So youre blaming the rookie who caught his first pass today?
and two more on top of that
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no
im saying that was a communication error that Chad as quarterback needs to make sure doesnt happen. Butthis is a process and these mistakes will come. Especially on a team that is having problems both protecting their franchise investment and running the ball
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This is supposed to be his team
Hes the QB. He gets the blame. And like I said, fine, whatever, the picks dont really bother me. Its EVERYTHING ELSE
Its also going into a game knowing hes gonna throw at least a couple awful throws that will hurt us. Hes done it in almost every start hes had
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and i talk about the inconsistancy all the time. But ive seen devolopment in many areas as well. The fact is the best games and the best plays ive seen from Chad mostly this season
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"how about this story, from 1-15 to 11-5 and the best team in the afc east, from 15 games out a year ago to reigning champions, unbelievable" Jim Mandich
I agree hes had some really great moments
particularly early on. But instead of building on that he continues to make the same mistakes every game
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2. ok. were do we start. First off lydon Murtha got completly beat on the speed rush and the the Chads arm got hit. Chad had two choices here. either try to make his throw anyway or try to avoid the rush both of which are tough to do. Davone then slipt on the route and the ball was intercepted
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he shouldnt have thrown the ball
he shouldve threw it away which he never does
but bess slipped. Fine. I dont really care about the picks. I care about the countless check downs, constantly locking onto receivers, and just poorly thrown balls
He got bailed out by Marshall, and Bess twice today
Hes td pass shoudve been picked or at least incomplete, Bess just made a great play
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I dont disagree on any specific point
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Im just tired of seeing him do something detrimental every single game
That position makes or breaks a team. The perennial contenders all have good ones and the perennial losers dont
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all im saying
is that i feel as though Chad can be in the future a great player at the posistion. I really believe that
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well and youre entitled to that
I guess we’ll just agree to disagree and time will tell
I hooe youre right I really do. I like him and I always have. Ive just been so discouraged by his play for the majority of his career so far
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thats fair
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Bess made an ok play.
The great play would have been to rip the ball out of the defender’s hands like great WRs do. Henne was expecting Bess to make a play on the ball, but our WRs never do (with exception to Marshall)
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what??
Bess was running towards the end zone, the ball was thrown short and behind him, right to Tye Hill, who let it go through his hands…
How again is this Bess’ fault?
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by Little Nicky 21 on Dec 27, 2010 3:43 AM EST up reply actions
His TD should've been intercepted
except Tye Hill has butterfingers.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Dec 27, 2010 3:43 AM EST up reply actions
Yep.
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by texascowpunk on Dec 27, 2010 9:34 PM EST up reply actions
tell me why Henne is throwing a 3 yard drag route to Mickey Shuler on 3rd and 11?
When Bess was open on a 10 yard dig route for the first, behind Vasher, who was already breaking on Shuler once he saw Henne lock on as he crossed the field?
Henne sucks.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Dec 27, 2010 3:42 AM EST up reply actions
IRONY!
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Football is like life - it requires perseverance, self-denial, hard work, sacrifice, dedication and respect for authority.
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by Carl Johnson a.k.a CJ on Dec 26, 2010 7:42 PM EST up reply actions
geez i forgot about that
what a dumbass
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Chad never talks like that
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when???????
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"how about this story, from 1-15 to 11-5 and the best team in the afc east, from 15 games out a year ago to reigning champions, unbelievable" Jim Mandich
ohhhh yea
but… Chad never said he was a bad player he reiterated what everyone says about his throwing motion e.t.c
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Yeah, but he should of been worrying about his. Wonder if the opposing teams
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i would rather get a all pro oline then draft a qb in any round
get a great o-line you can stick rex ryan back there and he could be good
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Look at NY dude. Sanchez is the sole reason they wont win a superbowl this year or anytime soon until he gets better gets replaced
Tomlinson looked DONE behind a supposedly “really good” line in SD and look at him in NY
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hes still young
roethlisberger won a super bowl in his second season with a horrible qb rating that meant he needed work still sanchez is going to be good hate to say it but he will
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fair enough
But Big Ben played very well that year and was a big part of why they got there
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the point is
Sanchez is holding the Jets back RIGHT NOW
Hes horribly inconsistent and has cost them multiple games
if that team had a capable and consistent vet they wouldve won the division or wouldve come alot closer and would be probably be one of the favorites to win the SB
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because he is young
give him a season or two not everyone is a ben roth or dan marino
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Hes had three
how many does he need exactly?
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and sat for a year
if we can judge a draft three years after, then we can judge a QB
Especially one whos almost started for two full seasons and got to sit behind a very football-wise vet for over a season
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i was talking about sanchez
hennes has only had one full year of starting and 3/4’s of last year
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oh gotcha
and 1 and 3/4ths is almost 2
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yeah when beck was here everyone was up hennes ass
now everyone is impatient and wants his head i am a firm believer it takes time to develop into an all pro QB and it starts with a line
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Future all pro QBs wil also show you SOMETHING even when their team has struggles
Look at Bradford in St Loius or hell look at Tebow today in Denver. That team is a mess yet a rookie who had all kinds of questions about him coming him and with one pro start under his belt leads his team back from being 14 and wins the game
Thats something Henne has never showed me
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last year he showed great promise
everyone was up his ass until week 5 of this year
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Yeah and hes been unable to capitalize on it
Hes started 26 games since then and has done nothing but be mediocre
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It starts with QB talent
A QB can have an All-Pro line and it won’t help his accuracy, his timing, his ability to read defenses, his ability to manipulate safeties, his reading progressions. Those are things that a good QB needs to develop and you can’t wait until you have a great O-line or a pass catching TE, or all these extra pieces.
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Bradford has done it this year
And Josh Freeman.
And Aaron Rodgers.
And Jay Cutler.
And even Tebow today
The list goes on and on…
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what was rodgers problem the last few years
he kept getting knocked on his ass and couldn’t stay upright
freeman will have to win the big games to be considered good
tebow had one good game
cutler has a good o line to throw behind
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my point is that QBs can do it
and Henne has hardly been on his ass
Were in the middle of the road as far as sacks given up go and thats with a QB whos not very mobile
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Cutler has a terrible O-line
Rodgers did have a bad line and threw for over 4000 yards and 30 TDs. So that argument about the “bad O-line” doesn’t hold up.
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let me say this
we bring in another qb next year whoever that may be and he doesn’t any better than henne and we still suck what is going to be everyones solutions then?
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The solution is drafting a franchise guy
and you keep doing that until you have the right answer. Chances are you’re going to find that in the 1st round. We need a guy with good work ethic and talent. Getting FAs and late round developmental guys aren’t going to cut it.
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Yea but Rodgers was doing his job right, it was easy to tell that he was good from the start
unlike Henne
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I have my Ninja's hunting for Henning as we speak. The official KS-22 clan leader.
Buffalo has a crappy line and look at what Fitzpatrick has done
The Lions have a crappy line and Shaun Hill (yeah, that one) carved up our defense pretty well.
Everyone always uses this argument:
no qb can throw on his ass
when talking about a QB. But that’s not a valid argument. Even a bad O-line can protect a QB most of the time. The truth is that Henne has had great protection most of the year and has not been able to capitalize on it.
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thats because teams aren't stacking the box and sending more
guys into covergae
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Even then, that defeats the point
If teams have to stack the box to get pressure, then a good QB can exploit that. If they are putting more guys into coverage, then a good QB can work through his reads and wait until his guys get open.
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i admit henne takes a long time to get the ball out
but i am saying he needs time to improve your even brady can work on things to improve but lets let the guy get another year and then see once you can thats the problem the last ten years to many qbs and not letting them get settled in
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The question is, when do we pull the plug?
How much more of Henne do we need to see before we realize he’s not it? Is he suddenly going to “get it” because he has a few more starts?
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He's gonna get it alright,..... a seat on the bench
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Football is like life - it requires perseverance, self-denial, hard work, sacrifice, dedication and respect for authority.
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by Carl Johnson a.k.a CJ on Dec 26, 2010 8:23 PM EST up reply actions
you can't get better sitting on the bench
and the bills have a lot better run game then we do this year that helps the passing game a lot
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Buffalo does have a better run game than us
But its 18th in the league. Its not a great rushing attack by any means. And they also have a mobile QB that adds to those stats.
Green Bay has a worse rushing attack, yet they can still score and win games.
And Atlanta has a YPC average comparable to ours. They have more yards because they rush more than us.
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Most of Henne's sacks were self induced, due to slow
reads and failure to maneuver in the pocket, other than that it is throws he makes when he do have time.
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by fin4three5yrs on Dec 26, 2010 8:12 PM EST up reply actions
Big Ben is by no means a Brady, but he made the plays when he had to as a
rookie. The steelers are predicated by smashmouth rushing and defense, with a little of precision passing, which takes pinpoint accuracy.
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by fin4three5yrs on Dec 26, 2010 7:53 PM EST up reply actions
He is a gunslinger ...
In the mold of Favre … He wins big and loses big, but he is fun to watch… can’t say the same about the crap that we have been putting on the field lately…. I have never in my life seen a win that I have been so underwhelmed with … WINNING A FREAKING GAME WITH PUNTING … ARE YOU KIDDING ME?? If I wanted to see us kick the ball around I would go watch soccer …..
"And my head I'd be scratchin' While my thoughts were busy hatchin'
If I only had a brain" --Dan Henning
"When a man's an empty kettle, He should be on his mettle
And yet I'm torn apart Just because I'm presumin'
That I could be a human, If I only had a heart" --Chad Henne
by Jason Scott_90 on Dec 26, 2010 7:55 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
up until this year
ben has had a great o-line to help him it helps a lot
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I agree for the most part .... but then again ...
You either are a franchise QB or you aren’t … there is no in between …. we need to draft a QB with our first pick and then keep hoping Henne develops for us…
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If I only had a brain" --Dan Henning
"When a man's an empty kettle, He should be on his mettle
And yet I'm torn apart Just because I'm presumin'
That I could be a human, If I only had a heart" --Chad Henne
by Jason Scott_90 on Dec 26, 2010 8:00 PM EST up reply actions
yay for mediocrity!
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by Little Nicky 21 on Dec 27, 2010 3:44 AM EST up reply actions
My opinion:
Fire Henning
Say goodbye to Henne
Im a little more hesitant to jump on the fire sparano bandwagon. Hes the type of coach that I like. Its really unfortunate that things have gone this way. I like the fact the fact that we are one of the least penalized teams in the league. I like the fact that hes exited and gets into the game. I like how hes dealt with distractions( See: Joey Porter benching). Hes a no bullshit type of guy. and i wish things had gone better.
I would like to see a Sparano coached team next year with
1. A new OC
2. A new QB
3. A defense that performs just as well as this years.
and see where that takes us…….
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Get his guy
"Football is a game played with arms, legs and shoulders but mostly from the neck up"
Football is like life - it requires perseverance, self-denial, hard work, sacrifice, dedication and respect for authority.
Sharks are as tough as those football fans who take their shirts off during games in Chicago in January, only more intelligent.
People who work together will win, whether it be against complex football defenses, or the problems of modern society.
by Carl Johnson a.k.a CJ on Dec 26, 2010 8:01 PM EST up reply actions
YUP
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dan Henning will retire, Chad is a huge question mark.
We need to fix our huge issues on the offensive line before we do anything else
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I like the guy too...
But I can’t justify
1. keeping Pasqualoni until the end of last season as DC.
2. Reworking a very good O-line and going from dominant to …. eh…
3. defending Henning after last week’s game.
I mean, once we are eliminated you make the move, what do we have to lose??? We know we aren’t keeping him, why not go get someone to finish the season. You could even try out David Lee for the rest of the season and not really do much with the offense as a whole, only change who is doing the playcalling.
"And my head I'd be scratchin' While my thoughts were busy hatchin'
If I only had a brain" --Dan Henning
"When a man's an empty kettle, He should be on his mettle
And yet I'm torn apart Just because I'm presumin'
That I could be a human, If I only had a heart" --Chad Henne
by Jason Scott_90 on Dec 26, 2010 8:03 PM EST up reply actions
heres for Henning too
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Football is like life - it requires perseverance, self-denial, hard work, sacrifice, dedication and respect for authority.
Sharks are as tough as those football fans who take their shirts off during games in Chicago in January, only more intelligent.
People who work together will win, whether it be against complex football defenses, or the problems of modern society.
by Carl Johnson a.k.a CJ on Dec 26, 2010 8:17 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
lolz
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henning F**ked!
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We often look rite past the positive's cuz the negative's-r-so hard they dominate!
by wild zion beaver on Dec 27, 2010 11:31 AM EST up reply actions
Hes the type of coach that I like
So what you saying is that you want a coach that goes 1-7 at home and gets his rocks off on FGs?
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Listen man
nobody likes to lose. but he is the type of coach i like. Workmanlike rather then a jackass with a loud mouth( ala Rex Ryan)
I was defending his character and discipline more then his football performance this year.
Although let it be noted many times that I blame the shitty performances mostly on Henne. Henning to a lesser extent, but still blame goes there as well.
Henne sucks. period. end of discussion. your not gonna be a playoff team with what henne brought to the table this year.
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by Gatorfan4life on Dec 26, 2010 10:07 PM EST up reply actions
Henne sucks. period. end of discussion. your not gonna be a playoff team with what henne brought to the table this year.
O I agree.
But now are you ready for me to go into defending Henne character and discipline when Henne’s HC not only pulled him when the “entire” team was struggling against the best teams in the league, but also unnecessarily threw him under the bus, just to have his HC say, go get get em kid 3 snaps into the game that weekend?
You also aren’t going to the playoffs with the coaching Sparano brought to table. This year or last. Going back to last year we are 1-9 at home in our last 10 under Sparano (4-4 losing the last 2) BTW we lost 3 straight to end the season last year, looks like we are in prime position to do it again.
Sparano sucks. Period. End of discussion you don’t lose to the Browns Bills, Lions at home, and not only lose, lose ugly. Its the way we are losing.
This blaming Henne on everything sh*t is too much. Yea he isn’t a franchise QB, average at best, but he is no d@mn Cleo Lemon and John Beck either.
I don’t seem to remember Henne being on the field when Bess fumbled a punt that put the Lions ahead 3-0. I don’t remember Henne being on the field (while up by 10) giving up a 53 yard TD on a short pass to Best. And what, if he waits too long and eyes his WRs before he throws the ball you all drill him. He tries to throw the ball on a timing route and the WRs FALLS you all drill him.
This F’n hate for Henne blaming him for every loss is just getting stupid.
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by Neo on Dec 26, 2010 11:27 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Ahhhh....
Screw it….clean house and get Cowher in here with new GM (former KC)
I dunno, but for SURE draft qb in 1st round. 1ST ROUND!!!!
Two words
Jake. Locker.
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not buying....
Newton, Luck, Ponder, Barkley?
barkely is next year
and ponder is Chad Pennington Jr
Newton is overrated and raw and will need time and Luck is out of reach
Watch the Holiday bowl and get back to me on Locker
He was the number one prospect last year until he decided to stay
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was he hurt this year?
team was so bad and they got shut out couple times , no?
his team is all worlds kind of awful
hes not and he only went back because he promised his parents he would finish school. The only reason they got into a bowl game is because of him
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Fig Newtons are only good for a "while", this team has no Luck, and why Ponder on settling for less when we can take the best thing available Locker?
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Football is like life - it requires perseverance, self-denial, hard work, sacrifice, dedication and respect for authority.
Sharks are as tough as those football fans who take their shirts off during games in Chicago in January, only more intelligent.
People who work together will win, whether it be against complex football defenses, or the problems of modern society.
by Carl Johnson a.k.a CJ on Dec 26, 2010 8:55 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
rec'd
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I totally disagree
Fig Newtons are awesome. Oh wait, what? LOL
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I keep telling you guys to look at Pat Devlin, why won't you give it a shot and let me
know what you think. I am for Luck, but damn you got to leave no stone uncovered with the what ifs. Just look him up.
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I like Devlin myself
but I want a first round graded QB
Im tired of band aids and what ifs at that position. I want to get the closest thing to a sure thing we can and the % supports getting one in the first round
First rounders end up doing the best for a reason
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this is like saying I need a fuse to complete a circuit but instead I decided to use wire?
"Football is a game played with arms, legs and shoulders but mostly from the neck up"
Football is like life - it requires perseverance, self-denial, hard work, sacrifice, dedication and respect for authority.
Sharks are as tough as those football fans who take their shirts off during games in Chicago in January, only more intelligent.
People who work together will win, whether it be against complex football defenses, or the problems of modern society.
by Carl Johnson a.k.a CJ on Dec 26, 2010 8:20 PM EST up reply actions
lol exactly
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the wire will backfire and burn the house down
"Football is a game played with arms, legs and shoulders but mostly from the neck up"
Football is like life - it requires perseverance, self-denial, hard work, sacrifice, dedication and respect for authority.
Sharks are as tough as those football fans who take their shirts off during games in Chicago in January, only more intelligent.
People who work together will win, whether it be against complex football defenses, or the problems of modern society.
by Carl Johnson a.k.a CJ on Dec 26, 2010 8:22 PM EST up reply actions
Devlin may end up like Flacco and get a low 1st round grade depending on how he performs in the NC game
and the combine.
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Devlin was a 1st round projection, but decided to come back, like Locker he is on a
not so very good team, but like you said Earl, watch his last college game and check him out at the combine.
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by fin4three5yrs on Dec 26, 2010 8:33 PM EST up reply actions
January 7th is the NC game
No one is going to watch it because they put it up against the Cotton Bowl. But if he has a good showing and then a great combine, then he can move into a late first round prospect.
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Why does everyone always use the Leaf thing against first round QBs?
There are first round busts all over history, but there are more busts in the other rounds. They aren’t considered busts because they weren’t 1st round picks.
Look at the top 10 or 12 QBs in the league right now. Most were 1st round picks: Both Mannings, Rodgers, Big Ben, Vick, Ryan, Flacco.
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saddness at this otherwise festive time of year
I like our kickers. Our Defense and our recievers.
I hope that we do not get so caught up in the things we need only to have some
of he things that are working for us jump ship.
Is M Nolan coming back?
BMarsh?
DC$
What about our secondary any FA?
What FA QB’s are out there for us to get instead of going for one in the draft?
Should I answer my own questions with some research?
haha
no there all legit questions
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OK
FA QB’s that are worth mention.
Donovan McNabb, WAS
Matt Moore, CAR
Kyle Orton, DEN
Matt Hasselbeck, SEA
Alex Smith, SF
Troy Smith, BAL
Volek for the Chargers too, he is good also and hungry.
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by fin4three5yrs on Dec 26, 2010 8:35 PM EST up reply actions
Volek is a funny guy, he cant throw short or medium but hell his deep balls are dead on lol
"Football is a game played with arms, legs and shoulders but mostly from the neck up"
Football is like life - it requires perseverance, self-denial, hard work, sacrifice, dedication and respect for authority.
Sharks are as tough as those football fans who take their shirts off during games in Chicago in January, only more intelligent.
People who work together will win, whether it be against complex football defenses, or the problems of modern society.
by Carl Johnson a.k.a CJ on Dec 26, 2010 8:39 PM EST up reply actions
Exactly, CJ.
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by fin4three5yrs on Dec 26, 2010 8:47 PM EST up reply actions
FA QB
Only one that is worthwhile is Donovan Mc Nabb. Did you see Alex Smith today? Just like Henne he choked again. Thank goodness when Saban was here the 49ers drafted him first and with the next pick we drafted Ronnie Brown.
We could have drafted Rodgers... sigh
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chad henne sucks
didnt he say that tebow wasnt a nfl qb hmmm and tebow threw for 304 yards today
I agree we need change at qb, at least competition, but realistically a team have got
to trade down with us for the draft for us to consider 1st round qbs. Carolina just drafted 2 qbs in the draft and I know they are going to invest in a FA qb and seek a DT in this draft. Now, unless we can package together a DT and put a little cream on the top, us getting the qb we want is gone. Carolina is our best shot at a franchise qb.
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Here what some of the Lions had to say about Henne:
“We were able to get a good key on the quarterback and just started playing aggressive and making plays,” said cornerback Nathan Vasher, whose interception at Miami’s 36-yard line set up the tying field goal.
Lions linebacker DeAndre Levy, who returned the second interception 30 yards for the winning score, was even more blunt.
“We knew (Henne) had some shaky numbers,” Levy said. “But we never want to underestimate a guy. We’ve had second- and third-string quarterbacks come in and win games.”
So the CBs knew what Henne was going to do and some LB no one knows outside of Detroit compared our QB to 2nd and 3rd stringers.
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Yea,
and the CBs know the routes our WRs are gonna run. And it gets to the point where the opposing defense knows what play were are running, whats knew?
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ummmm
new***********************
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The fact their LB who I'd never heard of until today basically calls Henne a 2nd or 3rd string QB
is pretty insulting. We’re only 2 wins better than the Lions right now. This is sad.
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I don't see him calling him a 2nd-3rd string
I see it as him saying that they have gotten beaten by 2nd and 3rd string. Maybe we are reading that differently.
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I read it as a latent comparison
If Henne was a legit starting QB, then this statement wouldn’t have been necessary. He’s saying that Henne is playing as bad as 2nd and 3rd string guys. They’ve underestimated bad players before, so they can’t this time either.
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Either way
we just got beat by a second string guy.
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The Lions second string guy
With Calvin Johnson standing on the sidelines.
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Yea
Henne gave up bout 10 points in the last 5 mins, but our defense gave up 7 (putting them within 3) as well. Nobody seems to want to mention that though.
They praise our defense, but don’t want to bring up that play. They want to F*CK Henne even though he played just as well until the defense gave up the 53 yarder. No a word is spoken on how well he played earlier.
Don’t get me wrong man, Henne is not the answer at QB (I don’t think anymore). All I’m saying is it’s the Miami Dolphins, not the Miami Hennes.
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I agree
There is a lot more wrong with this team than just Henne. But it was nice to see Incognito at center. That was a bright spot.
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Yea the thing about that is
It’s game 15. There wasn’t anything wrong (save 1 spot) coming in from last year and they screwed it all up.
BB has a young defense in NE, he spends more time with that unit and see the improvement? And thats the entire defense. Sparano couldn’t do that with our OL….just the OL? Maybe he did and thats why they have sucked.
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great name!
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Jahvid Best 2010 Draft
We could have had this player and he would have been a perfect complement to Ronnie and Ricky. This guy had injured both feet with turf toe injuries and on a critical play in this game even with those injuries he made our defense look slow. SPEED KILLS! This regime did nothing to address the loss of Ted Ginn’s speed. The Lions do not have a great OL, but he will probably finish with over a 1000 yards rushing plus his catching ability. We have no homerun hitters at the skill positions.
Start Tyler Thigpen against Patriots
We have seen enough of Henne. Now is the time to give Thigpen a whole week of practice and see what he can produce. He has only played in limited action since we acquired him last season. Its time to see what else we can do with some of the other players we have on the team. In particular, Moore and Wallace. Moore could have scored on that end around if he was not tripped up by the LB.
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on tv tonight?
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I enjoyed reading this and couldnt help but laugh
http://www.talk-sports.net/nfl/sucks.aspx/Chad_Henne
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by Carl Johnson a.k.a CJ on Dec 26, 2010 10:42 PM EST up reply actions
Im wondering what Jay Fielder is doing now
"Football is a game played with arms, legs and shoulders but mostly from the neck up"
Football is like life - it requires perseverance, self-denial, hard work, sacrifice, dedication and respect for authority.
Sharks are as tough as those football fans who take their shirts off during games in Chicago in January, only more intelligent.
People who work together will win, whether it be against complex football defenses, or the problems of modern society.
by Carl Johnson a.k.a CJ on Dec 26, 2010 10:47 PM EST up reply actions
I just went & washed my hands
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by Tunaflipper on Dec 26, 2010 11:26 PM EST up reply actions
The second half of that quote is reconfirmed daily by someone on this site.
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by texascowpunk on Dec 27, 2010 2:34 AM EST up reply actions
Wow. Good thing we keep these forums clean. I'd hate to read that crap daily
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Just one question.
It has been mentioned by Henning that all the flaws of the offensive play are due to poor execution. I have a question.
Couldn’t the same be said of PP’s defense last year? All the deep passes were blown coverages. The lack of pressure was due to poor play by JP. Also, if we only send 4 guys, we should be getting coverage sacks. Just a thought.
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I could agree with this
I can still see those TEs getting open for huge gains
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Well there a lot of moving parts there
First of all, PP was bad and needed to go. But we’ve also seen some improvements with our defense. Soliai and McDaniel have played above the level we expected them to play. Davis has become a reliable corner and we added Dansby in FA. Clemons has played better than Gerbil. Plus Wake’s been a force.
So from last years defense, just about every position has changed or improved. We’ve replaced Gerbil, Ayodele, Ferguson, Porter, and JT with Wake, Misi, Clemons, Soliai, and Dansby. So our DC improved as well as our defensive talent.
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Davis or Smith were expected to take a step forward. Wake showed signs of being good the next season. We also should have expected Dansby or Rolle to hit FA. With all that talent plus defensive draft wouldn’t have that led to better execution?
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This is the end for Sparano. But it is the beginning of the Cowher or Gruden era.
Now how about Peyton he is a fa at the end of the year. Then you can draft a top rb and a speed wr in the third or vice versa. This is the key with the Dolphins get a big time coach and qb then we could get some other fa we need because they will see we have an owner that will do what it takes. With Peyton it buys us time to get other players you need to win championships then you use the draft to trade back get extra picks and in Peyton 3rd year you trade up and get a future franchise QB. This is a blueprint of things that I would do given Ross’s money this is the way I would go.
Either you've gone bonkers or a Colts fan here to make fun of us.
But I will say Jerry Jones is enough of an idiot to fire Garrett.
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by Tunaflipper on Dec 27, 2010 12:22 AM EST up reply actions
So maybe I've gone bonkers...
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by Tunaflipper on Dec 27, 2010 12:23 AM EST up reply actions
Except that Jerry loves Garrett and he is loyal beyond a level that is smart so there is no
way that Garrett is gone especially given how well he had gotten the team to play once he took things over.
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by texascowpunk on Dec 27, 2010 2:36 AM EST up reply actions
I'm a henne fan
but i’m a bigger dolphin fan
I don’t want to see this franchise be stuck in the gutter for 5 years
I just believe that we have a young qb who has shown promise who’s mistakes are correctable who has had to produce behind a horrible OC and a bad o-line and a bad running game.
I want whatever qb we have to be in a position to succeed.
I dont care that a manning could do better with what we have currently.
I want the qb we have to have a great supporting cast.
Why do we have to make it harder on the QB?
Build these essential pieces (running game and O-line) and lets see how our QB’s respond.
That is why I want the running game/ O-line to be built up.
I do believe in henne, but whether you like him or not He will be better than any rookie we could get.
And we do have bigger problems on the offensive side of the ball.
Worst case scenario we draft a qb the following year, but we have a running game and an O-line in place.
Best case scenario Henne really has been a victim of bad coaches and a lack of running game and o-line. Henne thrives under the new environment and performs really well. (and we win the superb owl)
Dan Henning is the sole reason the dolphins aren't a Superbowl Caliber team.
We must have watched 2 different games.
Henne threw 2 stinkers and they got 10 points out of it. We lose by 7. Any other time I might give Henne some excuses but there it is in all it’s glory. He personally threw the 2 passes that caused our loss. I dont even know how he does it. As much as he stares down WRs he should see the guy slipping.
Hell, if I didnt know he was horrible, I would say he’s the smartest damn Vegas player in the world. It seriously looks like he folds games on purpose. Im personally going down to Florida and me and Henne are gonna make some money. Not a lot cause everyone has seen his ‘skills’ but some.
Those things are completely coachable
and his WR slipped on one of those plays
The defense also gave up a huge play
Chad Henne wasn’t the only reason we lost to the lions
Dan Henning is the sole reason the dolphins aren't a Superbowl Caliber team.
So your saying David Lee sucks??? Along with Chad and Henne??
"Football is a game played with arms, legs and shoulders but mostly from the neck up"
Football is like life - it requires perseverance, self-denial, hard work, sacrifice, dedication and respect for authority.
Sharks are as tough as those football fans who take their shirts off during games in Chicago in January, only more intelligent.
People who work together will win, whether it be against complex football defenses, or the problems of modern society.
by Carl Johnson a.k.a CJ on Dec 27, 2010 6:44 PM EST up reply actions
Look at our young QB's development.
White took amazing strides backwards. Could complete passes in college and in PS then couldn’t.
Henne is taking one step forwards and 7 steps sideways.
Thiggy can’t even run an offense anymore.
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Not a colt fan big Dolphan
No not bonkers this is plausible with the right coach. Peyton is gonna be a free agent if he hasn’t signed with the colts why not finish your career in southbeach. And have the first coach with a superbowl on two teams and qb with two superbowls with two teams.
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by texascowpunk on Dec 27, 2010 2:37 AM EST up reply actions
peyton has as much chance of leaving indianapolis as
a donut surviving the grasps rex ryan
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LOL Yeah there is no way in hell that he gets out of Indy.
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by texascowpunk on Dec 27, 2010 9:35 PM EST up reply actions
Well he is my in put, Cowher Ok I take that, Gruden no thank you!! He has to prove something first
to win the Ring with a team built by Dungy does not count!!! Yes he will give you great camera shots and look like he is doing the right things, but that team that won the Ring was Dungy’s not Grudens!!!
Second ….As much as I have been yelling get rid of Henning …..maybe its not him him? after watching this game I re-watched it and its not the play calling guys, it’s the QB!! I know I have said other times its the OC, but Henne just does not have it , well not now. he might gain it in a few years but not now. He just does not have the calm in the pocket that you want , yes it can come in time or hell just over night, sometimes it just clicks, it just hasnt for him!!! Would I be upset if we got a new OC not at all, but its hard to game plan when you have a QB that is scared on every play and has no game awareness!!
Thats all from me, Still hoping the New Years brings a Vet QB, A hard hitting FS, a soild RB, and 2 speedy WRs oh yeah and another stud like Dansby in the middle!!!!
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after watching this game I re-watched it and its not the play calling guys, it’s the QB!!
Stay with it dude. Henning is calling the games differently (how many times you seen us in no huddle this season) but its still the same. No matter what we play for the FG when tied or we have the lead. We play for the TD when we are behind. All the time.
Now I’ll go along with you that maybe the QB isn’t the answer, but Henning certainly is a horrible problem. Don’t let him confuse you.-)
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by Patssuck456 on Dec 27, 2010 12:50 AM EST up reply actions
LOL, no no no he isn't, Thats ridiculous
He is his great-great-great-great-great-great grandson
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by Neo on Dec 27, 2010 8:06 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
LMAO
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Henning isnt as bad as Henne makes him look
Look I think the game has passed Henning by but I still remember the Colts game last year and the first Jets game last year. Those were well called games. Now look at henne at the end of this game. 2 ints for 10 points. Thats his calling card this year! He doesnt throw in their endzone anymore, he doesnt even throw them on their side of the damn field. Henne likes pick 6s but will settle for the dependable FG(for the other team). Get this guy outta here!!
Henning isnt as bad as Henne makes him look
backwards bud
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by Neo on Dec 27, 2010 8:07 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Henne's time is over
There is alot i can say about henne i was like most of you thinking he would be a good enough QB to win games but there was always something telling me no. This whole QB situation is horrible atm IMHO we should have kept Beck yea in 5 games he fumbled 7 times but do you remeber peytons first season he was absolutly horrible. When we picked Henne i was like he could either be good or bad.
During the Two seasons he started he had some fantastic flashes of brilliance but most of his career he has more woeful excuses as a horrible QB then a good one.I will give you some examples of thease bad decisions take you back to the browns game a game we should have easily finished 14 points ahead Henne steps back to throw plenty of time he lets thros it down the right sideline with a wide open hartline 10 yards ahead of Haden and what happens the ball is under thrown where hartline had to stop and come back for it. Now same game Davon bess crosses over the middle all henne had to do is thor it two yards in front of bess and what did he do threw it higer and to the back shoulder of bess where he had to try and catch a awfully thrown ball.
Now lets take a look at the NYJ game the guy should have sat down on the bench for the rest of the year after this sorry excusse for a game 5/18 for 55 yards are you serious? 5/18? he could not make a read if there was a down arrow pointing over a open recivers head I watched Beck and Henne alot in collage in so many ways Beck was the better QB was he a Franchise QB no one will ever know unless something happens where he gets a legitiment start somewhere in his system.
I am all for handing Henne his release papers because he clearly cant make a throw and we can not rely on him to put the team on his back and win us games he cant do it we have seen it over and over.
To the guy blaming BM are you serious how can Kyle Orton throw the ball better then Henne to BM and BM making the players Henne cant even get BM the dam ball Orton is a awful QB and is still better then Henne.
To all wanting to draft a QB in the First Round there is only one proven QB in this years draft and that is Luck all the rest fall off so far from the list its not funny . If we cant get Luck dont bother going after a QB in the draft i like Locker alot but dont think he has the mental to be a Franchise QB where Luck has the Arm the physicals the mental and the pure football sense to lead teams to the glory land .
Last year would have been a good Year for a QB i seen a few really good ones there but Luck is also better then a few of them.2 years ago someone asked me who would be the best QB is the Draft i said Freeman and i am proven right right about now .
QB is a hard position to get right only 2 people in history could pick a franchise QB every time and get it right that was Shannahan and bill walsh they are the only two in history to pick them right every time. That is why trying to pick a QB is very hard because the Pro Level is so much faster then collage so in order to pick a QB this year we will have to give away a hell of a lot to grab Luck.
As far as the Oline is concerned we had injuries and that is not a excuse for anyone to lean on saying well henne cant make a throw on his rear or henne doesn’t have time im sorry if you cant get rid of the ball in 5 secs like he has had almost all year there is something wrong here Marino would get rid of the ball in 2 1/2 seconds he had the quickest release in football. Henne is not going to do anything next year if he is out starting QB and if he dose prove me and everyone else wrong who wants his head on a stake in front of the stadium ill eat my words and support the team like i always Have .
But lets face it so many times we have seen it this year he cant get the job done all i remember last off season was him crying he wanted a #1 receiver and he desperately needed one we go out and get one of the best Receivers in the game with two costly picks that we could of used for other things in the draft to get him one now we have that piece the rbs are both good and they were good for the last 5 years i don’t see that changing all we need on O is a Franchise QB to put this team on his back and lead it no one that doesn’t want to take the blame for what he did wrong today i was appalled today with what he said saying one was a miss route when the guy clearly was right there and it was just a sorry excuse for a throw and the devon bess falling down where the ball wasn’t thrown right in the first place Henne needs to go you can blame henning but i don’t think its as much his fault as it is Henne’s he clearly isn’t what we expected him to be.
This whole QB situation is horrible atm IMHO we should have kept Beck yea in 5 games he fumbled 7 times but do you remeber peytons first season he was absolutly horrible.
I stopped here. Sorry.
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A wise man makes his own decisions, an ignorant man follows the public opinion. ~Chinese Proverb
You know what would be hillarious
If the redskins decided that Rex Grossman is good enough to be the starting qb, and goes down and Beck steps in and has a Steve Young like season you’d eat your words and then some?!
"Football is a game played with arms, legs and shoulders but mostly from the neck up"
Football is like life - it requires perseverance, self-denial, hard work, sacrifice, dedication and respect for authority.
Sharks are as tough as those football fans who take their shirts off during games in Chicago in January, only more intelligent.
People who work together will win, whether it be against complex football defenses, or the problems of modern society.
by Carl Johnson a.k.a CJ on Dec 27, 2010 7:02 PM EST up reply actions
Yup I sure would
Good thing I’m nice and full
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"Permanence, perseverance and persistence in spite of all obstacles, discouragements, and impossibilities: It is this, that in all things distinguishes the strong soul from the weak." Thomas Carlyle
A wise man makes his own decisions, an ignorant man follows the public opinion. ~Chinese Proverb
henne defense, again
As Chad Henne continues to get the blame for the fins terrbile play; I thought I would come to his defense again. I apologize if someone mentioned this already; but i’m not reading 515 comments: Henne’s two picks – Shuler clearly stopped his route short and Chad’s throw was right on – Bess fell on his ass. This stuff happens, but this “collapse” is not Henne’s fault. Maybe our Defense could hold this prolific lions offense under 30 pts?
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by Nuda29 on Dec 27, 2010 11:09 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
You know why Shuler stopped??? cause they were running zone?
"Football is a game played with arms, legs and shoulders but mostly from the neck up"
Football is like life - it requires perseverance, self-denial, hard work, sacrifice, dedication and respect for authority.
Sharks are as tough as those football fans who take their shirts off during games in Chicago in January, only more intelligent.
People who work together will win, whether it be against complex football defenses, or the problems of modern society.
by Carl Johnson a.k.a CJ on Dec 27, 2010 7:03 PM EST up reply actions
Everyone else was in man. Shuler was running alone.
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