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With rumors swirling, big decisions to be made by Miami Dolphins

We all are aware of the decisions that the Miami Dolphins must make following the season. We all know the rumors that are out there already - and they are only going to grow by the day as the season winds down and the offseaso ramps up.

The biggest rumor, of course, centers around Bill Cowher and his impending return to head coaching. ESPN's latest report this weekend claims that the Dolphins are among Cowher's top three teams he hopes to have an opportunity to coach in 2011. But it's important to remember back to this time last year, when ESPN circulated rumors that Cowher was "primed to get back in the game," even going so far as to claim Bill was "laying the groundwork, making calls to piece together a coaching staff and acting like a man who will be patrolling the sidelines once again next season."

That was clearly an inaccurate report. ESPN's latest could be as well.

Regardless, the Dolphins have some decisions to make. Changes clearly need to be made. The question becomes which changes are the ones absolutely necessary this offseason. And which ones can be made to put the Dolphins in a better position than they are currently in. After all, it's not a good idea to make changes just for the sake of making changes.

The hunt for a starting quarterback

Take the quarterback position, for example. I'm one of the many that have completely soured on Chad Henne. I've seen enough of him. The Dolphins need to find a new long-term solution because, frankly, Henne is not it. The quicker all of us come to terms with this, the less painful everything will be as the great quarterback search in Miami continues.

But like I said, making changes for the sake of making changes is a bad idea. If the Dolphins can't land a top quarterback in the draft - and right now I only consider Andrew Luck, Ryan Mallett, and Cam Newton top quarterbacks (sorry Jake Locker fans, but I'm not sold on him just yet) - where else can Miami turn? Kevin Kolb or Vince Young? Neither is clearly superior to Henne and neither will necessarily be available for the right price. Free agency? Not too much ti choose from there, assuming Mike Vick is franchised or re-signs with the Eagles.

So we could very well be stuck with Henne for another year. Prepare yourselves for that possibility, everyone, and hope for the best.

Star-divide

New offensive coordinator an obvious need but not a total solution to offensive woes

The next obvious question becomes who makes the decision on the quarterback. Will Jeff Ireland and Tony Sparano be back? What about offensive coordinator Dan Henning?

Henning is likely gone after the season - and not a moment too soon. But a new offensive coordinator doesn't fix everything instantly. There's a great piece from Dave Hyde about some current offensive coordinators who have ties to the Dolphins - three guys who were chased out of Miami by angry mobs but have found success with their current teams. Why? All three have good quarterbacks.

That's the most important thing to keep in mind. Bringing in a new head coach and new offensive coordinator doesn't necessarily make the Dolphins a better team. The most important piece - and the one that money can't simply go out and buy - is a starting quarterback.

Are Sparano's days numbered?

Still, the most immediate decision to be made by this organization is whether or not head coach Tony Sparano returns. Sparano himself doesn't seem to concerned. When asked about if he's met with owner Stephen Ross since the loss to Buffalo, Sparano responded:

"I haven’t visited with him, no. That’s not my problem right now. My problem is to get ready for the Detroit Lions. That’s what I’m charged with."

"I just need to get my team ready to play this week. That’s my concern – get the team ready to play for the Detroit Lions this week. Everything else is out of my control. Let somebody else deal with it."

That's a reasonable response from the head coach. And he's right - somebody else is going to deal with it.

That somebody, of course, is Stephen Ross - who cannot be happy with his team's performance this year, particularly at home. That, of course, is what will be fueling the head coaching rumors.

But people need to understand that it's expensive to simply clear house and hire a new head coach - especially a big name candidate like Bill Cowher or Jon Gruden. And Ross would already have to pay Bill Parcells the $4 million he's owed in 2011 along with the salaries of Sparano and Ireland in 2011 if they were to get fired. Fans then expect him to dish out the ridiculous money it'll take to lure Cowher or Gruden to Miami? That's not a fair expectation.

There's also the possibility of firing Sparano and not landing one of the top coaching candidates out there. What then?

Lots of decisions to be made - and I'm glad I'm not the one that has to make them. I just hope the guy who is making them knows what the hell he's doing.

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I want to see Sparano return

as well as Henne. Hate him all you want but we aren’t going to toss a rookie out there next year and expect a SB. Let Henne play with a good OC, after all of those reports about players knowing our play calling so well, I can’t hate on Henne as much as I did this Sunday, still is he still struggling? Toss his ass out and toss the rookie in. Like Matty said there aren’t very many choices out there for QB right now anyways so we might as well. Worst case scenario? We don’t even have a 2011 season.

by Maguss on Dec 21, 2010 5:18 AM EST reply actions  

I have NO problem keeping Henne next year

but I damn sure want a rookie first round QB to be here as well and competing for the starting job

And Locker is awesome Matty I promise. Go watch film on him and its incredibly apparent that the struggles he has are ALL due to just a crappy, crappy team around him.

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by Ben Bacon on Dec 21, 2010 5:55 AM EST up reply actions  

"First round"

Why are people so insistent that they take a quarterback in the first round? That’s basically saying no one cares who is available on the board, let’s reach for a lesser talent just because it’s the first round. Drafting someone in the first round means absolutely nothing.

by abailey on Dec 21, 2010 10:29 AM EST up reply actions  

I dunno about that.

You are refuting the whole NFL draft model.

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by Tunaflipper on Dec 21, 2010 10:34 AM EST up reply actions  

No I'm not

I’m saying that too many people are tossing around the “we need to draft a QB in the first round” line as if doing so guarantees we land Marino 2.0. All I’m saying is yeah, we need to draft a quarterback. But we need to draft a good quarterback regardless of round. Picking someone up in the first round isn’t a qualifier for success (and there’s plenty of evidence to prove it).

by abailey on Dec 21, 2010 10:35 AM EST up reply actions  

It's not a guarantee for success to draft a Qb in the first

But it is a lot higher than taking a later round QB which is all we have tried since drafting Marino. If we are going to draft a QB the franchise needs to just take the gamble on a first rounder and see if he can beat out Henne.

by Pirate25 on Dec 21, 2010 10:41 AM EST up reply actions  

Not true

The gamble is actually greater in the first round because the monetary investment is so large.

Here’s my point: I don’t care if they draft a quarterback in the first round if a quarterback worth drafting there falls to them. But it isn’t a prerequisite. If we can all agree regardless of personal feelings about the players that the top three quarterbacks are Luck, Mallet, and Newton, then what if they’re all gone when Miami selects? Do we just draft the next best QB regardless of grade or presumed rank? I don’t think so. Sure, maybe someone pulls a Tebow and jumps up and takes a guy too high. But I’d rather another team reach than my team reach.

And yeah, they could trade up, but every year every fanbase on the planet says “trade up”. It isn’t as simple as just calling a team and making a deal.

by abailey on Dec 21, 2010 10:50 AM EST up reply actions  

Well Stated

I would agree with your well stated position. Take the best available player in the first round and see what happens. Get Henning out of the picture and we may see a better Henne anyway. I have not been happy with the current level of decision making out of him the past two weeks, but he has shown there is potential. The big question is will we ever see him consistently play at that next level.

by trwdolphins on Dec 21, 2010 1:23 PM EST up reply actions  

By first round I mean

Locker, Mallet, Newton, or Luck. These are the elite 4 of this draft and we need to get on of them

And nobody reaches for a QB in the first round (except for maybe Tebow). First round graded QBs are graded so for a reason. They cost a premium to get, and for good reason. History has proven that first round QB’s fare better than those drafted after.

Why else would tons of teams, owners, and coaches roll the dice EVERY year on it? Especially when you consider that success means a paycheck and lack thereof means a pinkslip

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by Ben Bacon on Dec 21, 2010 2:03 PM EST up reply actions  

There you go bringing history into the equation.

History only shows you have a better chance at landing a starter in the first round. Whether or not he’ll be a good QB is hit or miss.

History has shown that the best QBs have actually been drafted at a higher rate in the latter rounds and not the first.

Only 38% of the top 50 QB in career passer rating are first round picks.
Only 46% and 48% in yards and TDs, and 52% of the career leaders in INT WERE drafted in the first round.

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by luvs2drnk on Dec 21, 2010 7:50 PM EST up reply actions  

In the first 32 picks of a draft you get approximately a 50% chance of succeeding

In the next 192 picks you have the same odds. You would rather take you chances in the pool of 192 instead of the pool of 32 I guess. I think just the opposite.

I want to pick from the smaller pool.

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by ct1361 on Dec 21, 2010 8:24 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not advocating drafting anybody anywhere.

I’m simply stating the facts based on the history of the NFL. Besides, this is based on one position, QB. I’m also not sure what you would consider success as a QB to have a 50% chance of it. HOF? Pro Bowler? Starter?

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by luvs2drnk on Dec 21, 2010 9:03 PM EST up reply actions  

the last possession in the buffalo game still makes me sick...

it’s sometimes hard to guage coaching as a fan since we don’t see a lot of what’s really going on, but that last possession in the buffalo game is indesputable evidence or terrible coaching! how in the world were the HC and OC not henne’s ear leading up to that explaining that he NEEDED to throw the ball down field regardless of coverage?? that was almost as unexplainable as the giant’s infamous punt this weekend…..

by mtclifford on Dec 21, 2010 12:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Everybody says to fire Sparano…we fired the special teams coach when the special teams played horribly, we want to fire Henning because the Offense is playing horribly…nobody is talking about firing the QB coach who is directly coaching Henne!!! I think Henning is going to retiree this year anyway…I say keep Sprano, and Henne and get a good Q B coach, along with that O line that blowhard Parsells said he was going to revamp 3 years ago..over rated at best

by cottonmouth on Dec 21, 2010 3:46 PM EST up reply actions  

why fire David lee?

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by civwarbuff on Dec 21, 2010 3:48 PM EST up reply actions  

I bet Sparano is celebrating in that picture because we kicked another field goal (Henne is on the sideline)

He needs to go along with Ireland and every coach not named Mike Nolan.

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by Ben Bacon on Dec 21, 2010 5:54 AM EST reply actions  

Also remember Ross has been quite jealous of the Miami Heat fanfare

He wants the dolphins to be relevant again and 8-8. 7-9, or 9-7 with no playoffs isn’t gonna cut it.

Also also remember that he inherited these guys. He may want his own choice in at coach.

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by Ben Bacon on Dec 21, 2010 5:58 AM EST reply actions  

The search for a new Head Coach

A new head coach would most likely mean Mike Nolan’s time in Miami is limited as well since the new coach would probably want his own system. It would be unfortunate because of all the progress made on that side of the ball. There is a chance though that if Sparano is fired, Mike Nolan could get his second head coaching chance here with Miami.

by Finhead83 on Dec 21, 2010 6:30 AM EST reply actions  

That's actually an interesting idea.

Promote Nolan to HC and find a new OC and offensive coaching staff.

Hmmmm.

Would be cheaper for Ross, too.

by Matty I on Dec 21, 2010 7:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Might could be a legit possibility.

It would be crazy to think he didn’t learn from his SF experience.

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by Tunaflipper on Dec 21, 2010 8:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Wait. He did something in San Fran..?

lol

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by Alpha6 on Dec 21, 2010 11:33 AM EST up reply actions  

LOL

I had commented this idea in a previous post,I know my posts are long,but does anyone read em? Lol,it was basically this.

Promote Nolan to head coach,and Sheridan from linebackers coach to D coordinator to ensure continuity. One up everyone else by offering Cowher his first GM position. On offense,sure Cowher will want to get his own guy,but serious consideration should be made to see if Miamis own Zach Thomas would consider going into coaching. Not only does it bring him back to south beach,but it gets one of our own into the regime. To sum it up,a Head coaches job is to be the spokesman of the franchise,not so much general schemes,so get a decent offensive coordinator in there,and Nolans job is made easier.

Oh,and to those that are on the Parcells didn’t do his job kick,realize this,everywhere he’s went,he’s left them pretty much about in the same state as he’s left the Dolphins. Dallas,New York,“both teams” the Patriots. Stellar defense,less than stellar offense,the only difference being,here he’s left us with Marshall,and he never really had a thousand yard rusher,even with the run first mentality.

by dolphinfan4lyfe on Dec 21, 2010 12:03 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

ZT for DC

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by PotM on Dec 21, 2010 1:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

(fist pump)

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by PotM on Dec 21, 2010 1:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Not Bad...but

Not a bad idea, but Nolan is obviously in his ‘sweet spot’ as DC. I’m afraid the Defense would regress with someone else looking after it. And I’m not sure I’m a big Cowher fan…not interested in a nose-to-the ground running offence…but I suppose if it means wins and championships, so be it.

I think there’s one other coach that should be questioned (and possible let go) and that’s the QB coach. I mean, what is that guy teaching Henne? We fired the Special Teams coach for less, in my opinion!

by cordy_1971 on Dec 21, 2010 9:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Nolan sucked as HC in SF

we want to bring what he had in SF to Miami? And that was in the embarassing NFC West. We are in the AFC East, really, thats a interesting idea to you all? Not me. Cowher is a defensive minded coach, he can bring in his own OC and staff.

I find the vote also interesting that after every game almost everyon ripped Henne but after only 1 home win and our last two home losses to Cleveland and Buffalo of all teams when we are suppose to be making a playoff push that most still want our HC around. Thats right, its Henne or Henning fault right? It’s never the man’s fault who he responsible for the entire operation. Chalk this up as the 2nd year in a row that Sparano has not had a winning year in Miami.

Matty you talk expensive. You know what worse as a owner than spending money. Watching your fan base move over to the Miami Heat, while you are trying to generate this “orange carpet atmosphere” with celebrity owners all the while winning only 1 home game and with totally embarassing losses to the Browns and Bills. (maybe the Lions too)

Its expensive to clean house again, but I"m sorry, you got to keep cleaning to you get it right.

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by Neo on Dec 21, 2010 9:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Bill Belichick wasn't great in Cleveland

He seems to have done ok with his next HC job.

Just saying.

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by Agent J 78 on Dec 21, 2010 9:43 AM EST up reply actions  

You want me to go down the list of

coaches not named Belickick who didn’t do any better in their next HC job?

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by Neo on Dec 21, 2010 9:53 AM EST up reply actions  

That list doesn't matter.

What matters is how/if Nolan learned from his mistakes.

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by Tunaflipper on Dec 21, 2010 9:55 AM EST up reply actions  

LOL that entire list of coaches doesn't matter

but the BB name does, thats laughable.

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by Neo on Dec 21, 2010 9:56 AM EST up reply actions  

Well I tried to make a funny!

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by Tunaflipper on Dec 21, 2010 9:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Well c'mon

I did say it was laughable-)

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by Neo on Dec 21, 2010 10:01 AM EST up reply actions  

I didn't say Nolan was the answer

but just because his team didn’t do well in his first HC job doesn’t mean he is not capable of being a great HC.

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by Agent J 78 on Dec 21, 2010 9:58 AM EST up reply actions  

yea ok

he was a HC of a team that was bad and didn’t improve. What kind of a coach does that make him to you?

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by Neo on Dec 21, 2010 10:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Well, if we can't get Cowher or Gruden, we still need a HC..........

I think that Nolan might deserve a second chance.

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by PotM on Dec 21, 2010 10:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Gotta disagree

Mike Nolan = Dave Wannstedt

I wanted it when we got rid of Dave and I want (and we still need one now) a offensive minded HC. One that is not a complete imbecile

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by Neo on Dec 21, 2010 10:06 AM EST up reply actions  

So, failing Cowher and Gruden, who would be out there.

Dungy?

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by PotM on Dec 21, 2010 10:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Lets just settle down

take a look and see whats out there. We still have a HC for 2 weeks, there is time.

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by Neo on Dec 21, 2010 10:10 AM EST up reply actions  

You mean one of the HCs that will be fired this

season. That sounds worse to me than just letting Nolan take over.

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by PotM on Dec 21, 2010 10:12 AM EST up reply actions  

we can hire other people

other than fired HCs ya know

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by Neo on Dec 21, 2010 10:32 AM EST up reply actions  

like who? I'd be glad to listen.

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by PotM on Dec 21, 2010 10:37 AM EST up reply actions  

Harbaugh, maybe?

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by Tunaflipper on Dec 21, 2010 10:38 AM EST up reply actions  

James Joseph "Jim" Harbaugh?

I honestly can’t say anything about this. Other than haven’t we tried this before?

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by PotM on Dec 21, 2010 10:40 AM EST up reply actions  

John Beck!

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by Alpha6 on Dec 21, 2010 11:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Wade Phillips??

lol

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by Agent J 78 on Dec 21, 2010 10:12 AM EST up reply actions  

well

we have brought just about everyone else over from Dallas…that was a funny btw

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by Neo on Dec 21, 2010 10:58 AM EST up reply actions  

NOT GRUDEN!

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by Agent J 78 on Dec 21, 2010 10:08 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree, but he is the other big name that is out there.

And I don’t want a HC that is going to be fired this season. I think it would be better to solve it in house.

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by PotM on Dec 21, 2010 10:23 AM EST up reply actions  

I still like Sparano

I don’t think he hired his own coaches, I think it was given to him by Parcells. I think TS can still do well as a HC. The whole offensive coaching staff has to go though.

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by Agent J 78 on Dec 21, 2010 10:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Sparano wasted this season because he didn't have the balls to fire Henning

Matter of fact Sparano was praising Henning to the point that if he (Sparano) came back he didn’t want Henning to retire he wanted Henning back as well.

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by Neo on Dec 21, 2010 10:35 AM EST up reply actions  

Sparano always praises those who F up big and often

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by PotM on Dec 21, 2010 10:37 AM EST up reply actions  

But I don't think he was suggesting PP coming back

even though he praised him before he got fired.

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by Farorefox on Dec 21, 2010 12:00 PM EST up reply actions  

well

If he wont get rid of henning rossll get rid of em both. How do you like dem apples?

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by PotM on Dec 21, 2010 1:12 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

He worked for the offensively gifted Josh McDaniels

so maybe he figured out the offense side now. We know he can do the defense side. :)

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by Agent J 78 on Dec 21, 2010 10:02 AM EST up reply actions  

*fist pump*

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by Neo on Dec 21, 2010 10:07 AM EST up reply actions  

lol

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by Agent J 78 on Dec 21, 2010 10:07 AM EST up reply actions  

McD would make Marshall turn on us.........

And McD has a way of dividing the locker room. Yeah, sounds like a great HC.

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by PotM on Dec 21, 2010 10:08 AM EST up reply actions  

Follow above, it was sarcasm/a joke. :)

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by Agent J 78 on Dec 21, 2010 10:09 AM EST up reply actions  

oh..............................................

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by PotM on Dec 21, 2010 10:10 AM EST up reply actions  

These things can be hard to follow sometimes :)

McDaniels should send a thank you to Charlie Weiss for making him rich at 34.

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by Agent J 78 on Dec 21, 2010 10:28 AM EST up reply actions  

hahaha!

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by Tunaflipper on Dec 21, 2010 10:14 AM EST up reply actions  

That would make him Sparano

Who has had a mediocre team at worst and hasn’t improved.

by tpantaleoni on Dec 21, 2010 11:08 AM EST up reply actions  

I think the jury's still out on him.

I mean, McDaniels was the genius of that O…

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by Tunaflipper on Dec 21, 2010 9:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Don't understand that reply

BB is a defensive minded coach

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by Neo on Dec 21, 2010 9:57 AM EST up reply actions  

see above^

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by Tunaflipper on Dec 21, 2010 9:59 AM EST up reply actions  

lol

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by Agent J 78 on Dec 21, 2010 10:00 AM EST up reply actions  

To think that Nolan didn't learn anything from his experience in SF?

Is a HC job a one & done deal?

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by Tunaflipper on Dec 21, 2010 9:49 AM EST up reply actions  

A HC doesn't have to be a one and done deal, thats been proven over and over

But its been mostly proven that ince you hire that person as a HC thats what you are usually gonna get.

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by Neo on Dec 21, 2010 9:59 AM EST up reply actions  

NO NO NO NO!!!!!

ask the 49ers about Nolan. The only coach on this team i would promote is Kacy Rodgers our D line coach. I think i read he did a head coaching job in college….Could be something there.

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by 54 on Dec 21, 2010 11:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Karl Dorell would be interesting

He’s the wr coach and did well in college as well.

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by Farorefox on Dec 21, 2010 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

If Nolan is going to be a Head Coach next year I want him to be the Head Coach of the Phins.

He is the best coach on the staff hands down. I would rather lose Sparano than Nolan.

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by ct1361 on Dec 21, 2010 10:07 AM EST up reply actions  

He is the best coach on the staff hands down

And thats saying what?

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by Neo on Dec 21, 2010 10:08 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm not a fan of Nolan as a HC. Some people are just better suited to other roles.

I’m looking at you, offensive line coach Tony Sporano.

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by Ray Finkle, Isotoner Glove Spokesman on Dec 21, 2010 11:38 AM EST up reply actions  

Hmmm...

Let’s suppose that one of the top QBs doesn’t fall to us. Mark Ingram does. We then draft on the O line. Back to the power running game.
Good OCs for that scenario….Dan Henning?
A nightmare scenario for most of you, but if we can’t get a change at QB, I feel Henne can do ok as a game manager, if we can return to a good running game.
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by sirdolphin on Dec 21, 2010 6:34 AM EST reply actions  

Our entire offense is a disaster because we spent our entire draft (save 1) picks on defense

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by Neo on Dec 21, 2010 10:37 AM EST up reply actions  

But our D is amazing!

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by PotM on Dec 21, 2010 10:38 AM EST up reply actions  

but our "team" isn't

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by Neo on Dec 21, 2010 11:01 AM EST up reply actions  

truth^

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by PotM on Dec 21, 2010 11:02 AM EST up reply actions  

and don't forget we let go the best part of our O from last year for a 7th.

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by PotM on Dec 21, 2010 10:54 AM EST up reply actions  

We spent almost every pick on defense,save third round

Because we had more holes on Defense. You can argue all day,but with the pickup of Marshall,the play of Davone Bess,the emergence of Hartline,the play of Fasano,Ricky rushing for 1000 yards in Ronnies absence,Polites third down percentage,Henne’s play while filling in for Chad Pennington,the quality of our oline before the cuts,the pickup of Incognito,all had signs of this offense being a player away from having this offense complete.

Say what you will about any of the moves made this offseason,the only mistake I see is the fact that we traded Ginn too soon. He might have had bacon grease on his hands when it came to catching the ball,but just the thought of him being able to go deep would have made this offense click. Sure he got hurt in San Fran,BUT Miami isnt San Fran,and with events changing,so does the outcome. He got hurt in San Fran,not here,and thats not to say he wouldnt have,but its not wise to say he would have either.

But we got Reshad Jones with that pick,well,we cut Grove and Smiley for nothing. Whose to say we couldnt have packaged them and gotten the same pick for what we got from trading Ginn. People played us differently when he was here,and u are not going to tell me that he didnt free up our run game with his speed.

If I was this front office,id go into this offseason with one thing in mind,offer them Merling and CC in a trade for Ginn,keep Henne one more year,next year,if Henne isnt our QB,there isnt alot of options in the draft,but the free agent pool is ripe with talent. Give our Oline a chance to gel for a full offseason,but trade down in the first round and nab Pouncey in the first,to replace or ursurp Incognito. Worst case scenario re sign Grove ,and lure Legarrette Blount away from Tampa Bay. Then worry about the rest as it comes

by dolphinfan4lyfe on Dec 21, 2010 2:15 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

the O-line cuttings were a huge mistake.

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by PotM on Dec 21, 2010 2:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Id like to see Sparano come backwhil

while Henne and Henning go. I just like his no shit disciplined style of coaching.

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by Gatorfan4life on Dec 21, 2010 6:37 AM EST reply actions  

Are you prepaired to give Bill Cowher 16 years to win a SB?

Because that’s how long the Rooney family gave him in Pittsburg. I’m not saying it would take that long here, I’m saying the only time he was a head coach he had the unconditional support of his ownership for as long as it took.
It strikes me that if Ross is prepared to dump Sparano, Ireland and probably Nolan, he’s not prepared to give anyone 16 years.
Much is made of Cowher’s record and his career winning percentage. He had 16 years of the Browns and the Bungles 4 times a year, not the Jets and the Patriots….that didn’t hurt the winning percentage.

The year Cowher finally won the SB the Steelers were a wildcard team with nine wins…they won every playoff game on the road….9 wins and the ability to win on the road?Hell, we’re there right now, what do we need a new coach for

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by PhrozenPhish on Dec 21, 2010 7:04 AM EST reply actions  

First of all, it was 14 years.

Second of all, Cowher took over a team that had 1 playoff appearance and a combined record of 44-51 in the six previous seasons to him taking over.

In his first six seasons, Cowher was 64-32 and reached the Super Bowl once and AFC Championship game two more times.

When was Miami’s last AFC Championship game appearance? Or playoff win, for that matter?

I’m not fully on the Cowher bandwagon, but when there are ridiculous statements made like the one you made, I feel compelled to provide the “other side of the argument.”

by Matty I on Dec 21, 2010 7:29 AM EST up reply actions  

But it still took him 14 years to win a super bowl

those other years don’t count the bills went to four super bowls in a row and lost all of them so they have nothing to show for it sorry matty not buying your argument for cowher

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by bryankstro on Dec 21, 2010 4:13 PM EST up reply actions  

yea he only won 1 SB but made it to the big game what 2 or 3 times before winning it.

Sorry Im on the Cowher bandwagon he brought the steelers to the playoffs many more times than we have seen the playoffs. So if hes good enough to do that I want him to coach our team

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by Weecho85 on Dec 21, 2010 9:22 AM EST up reply actions  

In fairness

Cowher did lead his team to the playoffs 10 times. The Dolphins, meanwhile, have made the playoffs once in the past eight years. If you don’t see the improvement there, there’s no helping you.

Also, most franchises would kill for one Super Bowl every 16 years. You’re jumping the gun though. Before this team can compete for a Super Bowl they need to compete for the playoffs.

by abailey on Dec 21, 2010 10:44 AM EST up reply actions  

Lets not forget that Ross said Henne would be the best QB to ever play in Miami..

So he must be eating some crow right about now as well.

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by Alpha6 on Dec 21, 2010 11:35 AM EST up reply actions  

If I were in the FO ...

… this would be my blueprint:
1. coaching: Sparano should stay, for the reasons Matty outlined in this post, the whole D staff should stay (hope Mike Nolan does not get too good an offer elsewhere), the OC may be replaced although I wonder whether Dave Hyde in the linked article is indeed right.
2. QB: get a veteran QB who could compete with Henne. Getting a rookie QB means moving our window years away, with no certainties anyway. I know the free agent crop is not enthusing, but many guys could become available anyway: Carson Palmer, Kyle Orton, McNabb, think Matt hasselbeck would have no value in Miami?
3. O-line: we are set at OT, interior line needs at least a new Center (FA or draft). The right side could get by with the combination of Carey, Incognito (who sould be resigned) & Jerry. The left side may be stabilised by Nate Garner coming back. A few guys are still around that coud be quality backups (McQuistan, Berger, Murtha). Now, if we can just improve at Center ..
4. RB: for as painful as it may be, let Ronnie walk. Try to keep Ricky around for a couple more years AND get one extra RB (with speed) to share the load with him and change the pace of the game (ie: like Charles/Thomas in KC). Of the other RBs, I would make a priority of resigning Cobbs; Hilliard and Polite, I should know more. Anyway, these are 2nd tier players, there should be a way to get them signed or replaced.
TE: find a 2nd TE (FA or draft), altough Haynos coming back should help, even as 3rd TE.
WR: we’re pretty set there, just keep Curtis if depth is needed.
5. D-line: Re-sign Soliai & McDaniel, trade one among Merling and Odrick for a 3rd round pick.
6. OLB: Wake & Misi will be fine but the backups need upgrade.
7. ILB: we’re fine here, do we need to re-sign Crowder? Not sure about this …
8. Secondary: there are plenty of bodies there, can we see to make a trade & gain something from W.Allen or B.Sapp?
9. ST: I think Carrol could be a good KR, need to find a better PR though … P & K are ok, last game notwithstanding …

Now, I can see a bit of wishful thinking but nothing outlandish, at the same time …. Oh, I was forgetting one thing: stop the roster churning, set on your guys are DEVELOP THEM.

by toscana jones on Dec 21, 2010 7:15 AM EST reply actions  

agree on most

but I think our priority should be to focus on a few things. Those needs are QB, OL and RB in that order.

QB we need to bring in a top notch QB in the draft (move up if we have to). Keep Henne and sign a veteran FA.

OL depending on how much we have to give up to move up either use draft or FA to upgrade the interior

RB I would resign Ronnie if the price is right. He has to realize that he is just a middle of the pack RB. Between Brown, Hilliard and the sheetz I think we would be ok.

by sdelinois on Dec 21, 2010 8:38 AM EST up reply actions  

I think you need to add WR to the wish-list

We have no deep threat. Every WR on the team is a possession-type receiver, no one stretches the field.

by tpantaleoni on Dec 21, 2010 9:52 AM EST up reply actions  

true

I did not indicate a priority but the one you give is quite right.
I also agree about Ronnie he can be the RB to keep if he comes at the right price. To be honest, I pointed at Ricky just because he’s more likely to come cheap. ronnie would give the team more seasons of service, almost surely.
I don’t agree with those who say we miss deep threat at WR, we always have got guys behind the defense, the QB just doesn’t deliver the ball.

by toscana jones on Dec 21, 2010 10:15 AM EST up reply actions  

If we get a fast WR though

The opposing defense will mor often start out with a safety deeper than they play us now. Sure, Hartline gets behind defenses on occasion, but those are all probably double moves, and no defense is scared of him catching the ball and going the distance.

by tpantaleoni on Dec 21, 2010 11:10 AM EST up reply actions  

My Order

RB, OL, QB. Technically, Ronnie and Ricky are no longer Dolphins in a few weeks. I definitely don’t want to go into 2011 with Hilliard, Cobbs, Sheets. Then we need to support that RB choice with new guys up the middle. Finally, we need a QB, but with a new OC and OL, perhaps we can groom someone while we ride Henne another year.

by ecschraler on Dec 21, 2010 11:20 AM EST up reply actions  

I thought we cut Haynos.

IAF is a good back up SOLB and Moses has played well the last two years in limited time.

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by PotM on Dec 21, 2010 10:14 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh, Sheets will be our PR next year.

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by PotM on Dec 21, 2010 10:15 AM EST up reply actions  

Haynos is injured

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by Farorefox on Dec 21, 2010 12:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Valid Points

Except there is no way we would / should trade Odrick for a 3rd round pick. That just doesn’t make any sense.

And let Crowder walk / cut him. All talk and no talent.

Def would like to see a home run threat at RB, is SD gonna tag Sproles again???

2nd TE who can stretch the field down the seam is essential.

by mms3131 on Dec 21, 2010 1:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Get a Veteran QB!!!??/

WTF…the dolphins dont need a veteran QB.They need a Franchise QB Eg-Newton,Luck,Mallet,Locker…….what the hell is a veteran QB gona do.We have/had Chad Pennington who is a veteran and he out of all ppl still cant help Henne!!!

by mattrob23 on Dec 21, 2010 7:34 AM EST reply actions  

a veteran QB is needed because ..

if you start over at QB, with a rookie, it may take again years before he’s up to the task of leading the team to the playoffs.
Then, don’t forget that even 1st round QBs are a 50-50 proposition: are you going to get Ryan Leaf or Peyton Manning? Akili Smith or Donovan McNabb?
Besides, Miami’s draft position will not be high enough to get one of the best prospect and, I for one, would not invest yet another 2nd round pick in a QB – and never to mention that Miami does NOT even have a 2nd, this year.
Many QB’s matured in their 3rd year, how painful would be to let Henne go and see him flourish somewhere else? Henne at least showed he has got the tools, he just does not use them well all the time.
For all the reasons above, the Dolphins may be forced to stick with Henne, that’s why giving him veteran competition would be the best they can do. Mind you, I just see it as the lesser evil. If the team had a top-5 pick, surely I would invest in a QB but, hey, it’s just what we don’t have. Psst: that’s just another reason why escaping mediocrity seems to be harder than rising from the bottom of the pack: mid-level draft picks all the time …

by toscana jones on Dec 21, 2010 7:46 AM EST reply actions  

I hate Tim Tebow

But the better he does the better chance Kyle Orton could be avail. Also Carson Palmer has been rumored to be out there. Alex Smith or Donovan Mcnabb. I know the #‘s of these guys aren’t very good but look at there situations not as good as Miami’s.

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by Seminolephinatic on Dec 21, 2010 8:52 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, darn Alex Smith

he only has Frank Gore, Michael Crabtree and Vernon Davis. What a woeful situation.
Carson has Ced-bed, TO and Ocho. Horrid players

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by Farorefox on Dec 21, 2010 12:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Who makes the decisions

I guess my real question before forming my opinion on Sparano is who makes the decisions.

- Who put the coaching staff together. Including paul pasquali ( i know I got it wrong) and dan Henning
- Whose decision was it to break up the offensive line to save money
- Who decides to play for the field goal on the last drive
- Who got rid of David Martin

I guess my point is. Does Sparano have control of these things as the Head Coach or is that Ireland and ex Parcels.

by sdelinois on Dec 21, 2010 8:22 AM EST reply actions  

I think that Henning was bought here before Sparano was. Or at least that is what I've heard on these forums.

Martin did nothing in TC or PS. He was a old, fast TE that was coming off a major injury. The best thing he did was be a solid blocker, and we had better blockers than him at the time.. We wouldn’t miss him if Haynos and Nalbone was still here.

Henning is the playcaller.

The O-line is Degug’s and Sparano’s fault.

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by PotM on Dec 21, 2010 10:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Also want to add

Does he really think Henning is doing a good job or is he like always saying nice things about everyone who works for him.

by sdelinois on Dec 21, 2010 8:24 AM EST reply actions  

He said nice things about PP and the Gerbil up to the days he fired them.

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by PotM on Dec 21, 2010 10:20 AM EST up reply actions  

incorrect

paul pasqualoni was let go

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by civwarbuff on Dec 21, 2010 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

absolutly true

i have always felt as though Tony has a tendency to lie about players and coaches performance to the media. But no fault can go to him on that. Tony is aleader and as long as someone is in the facility and even after theyve left there is no reason to throw them under the bus. Tony also seems very humble. And the fact is it is neive to not give Dan henning the nod that frankly over the past three years. Especially our 2008 season he played a quintescential role in our success

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by civwarbuff on Dec 21, 2010 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

But he has thrown Henne under the bus. I guess he only throws players under the bus when

he keeps them.

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by PotM on Dec 21, 2010 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Why don't we give Henne a chance with a new QB coach.

That’s the only link between a failed White, ghost back up Thiggy, and a regressing Henne. I’ll assume that Penne is greater than Lee.

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by Tunaflipper on Dec 21, 2010 8:38 AM EST reply actions  

I agree...

QB Coach has to go..‘development’ was no on his ‘to-do’ list this year.

by cordy_1971 on Dec 21, 2010 9:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Or maybe Penne didn't help as much as we thought he did

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by PotM on Dec 21, 2010 10:20 AM EST up reply actions  

You might be right.

Henne’s is nothing like Penne’s.

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by Tunaflipper on Dec 21, 2010 10:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Oh yeah, didn't the only & only Tuna mention a return?

Hmmm, if they start widening the sidelines for a golf cart lane you know who’s coming.
Ross would even save money!

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by Tunaflipper on Dec 21, 2010 8:43 AM EST reply actions  

*the ONE & only

Why am I so illiterate?! Would someone please tell me?

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by Tunaflipper on Dec 21, 2010 8:44 AM EST up reply actions  

born and raised in america with our education system?

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by PotM on Dec 21, 2010 1:05 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

wut?

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by Tunaflipper on Dec 21, 2010 1:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Watt?

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by Alpha6 on Dec 21, 2010 4:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Joules per second

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by PotM on Dec 21, 2010 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Matty, couldnt agree more

im just tired of Henne and Sparano, im tired of the fist pump for FG’s, i want something fresh and new and a mobile QB.

aka: SEX PANTHER

by sonnycrockett on Dec 21, 2010 9:13 AM EST reply actions  

A couple weeks ago I was all for keeping Sparano

but now I’m not so sure…..I’ve very sick of this lets drive to the 30 yard line and then set up a 45+ yard field goal offense. I know Henning is the OC but Sparano has let that mentality go on all season and I can’t stand it anymore…..I know we have a good kicker but what happens when he has a bad day? Oh thats right, we lose to Buffalo……

by cubman987 on Dec 21, 2010 9:14 AM EST reply actions  

Agreed a new QB is a definite

But where you going to get one? The draft? Clearly not FA or trade… my thoughts are Carson Palmer makes sense, but for the right price.

The Fins are going to have to make some moves to get a QB on draft day… it could be possible that one of those QB’s including Locker fall to the 2nd round, but the Fins don’t have a 2nd round pick…

Its a crap shoot, a lottery. We don’t even know their position yet, or how these guys test at the combine or if they declare. To me Andrew Luck is the only QB worthy to take with the expectations to be the franchise QB.

Love the potential of Cam Newton or Mallet, but also concerned about their down side.

The Patriots Suck

by k2oconnor on Dec 21, 2010 9:17 AM EST reply actions  

More QBs

I think if Palmer becomes available he should be picked up, at worst he will be a slight improvement over Henne, at best he could approach his pre injury form which would be beyond what I believe Henne will ever be capable of.

As for the draft, Luck and Mallet are the main guys. Locker next, Cam Newton will be a prject QB that could be taken in the first round like Tebow.

by LordBishop34 on Dec 21, 2010 10:29 AM EST up reply actions  

Exactly

So do you want Locker or Newton as your projects? Or do you want to trade a lot to move up for Luck.

Mallet could be there, but I am ify on him too.

Locker I am not sure how much or a project he will be. Last year he was suppose to be the #1 pick of the draft.

The Patriots Suck

by k2oconnor on Dec 21, 2010 10:36 AM EST up reply actions  

I hadn't even thought about Palmer

But I’m not sure he’s the solution. He’s been dreadful the past couple seasons and when the Bengals reach the point where they give up on a quarterback, that isn’t a good sign.

by abailey on Dec 21, 2010 10:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Cam Newton

(disclaimer: I am an auburn fan) but this guy is amazing. He is big Ben size (that guy just doesn’t go down!) and he has the elusiveness and speed of Michael Vick! It would be amazing to get newton in the draft. Move up to get him. As much as I hate the jest, they moved up to get their man, and they have a confidence to win and that worked pretty well for them so I wanna see this team pull some chances and stop being so conservative (Aka firing Tony sparano and Dan henning).

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by phins23 on Dec 21, 2010 9:43 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Vick was rediculously athletic, theres been no one close to his raw skill sets, i love newton too but he's not vick, but thats okay, no one is.

i would put everything into getting newton. we would have a mobile qb who’s not as small as pat white and it will energize the fan base.

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by sonnycrockett on Dec 21, 2010 12:56 PM EST up reply actions  

Btw, Matty.

The caption of the Sparano photo has got to be a joke (funny, haha), right?

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by Tunaflipper on Dec 21, 2010 9:53 AM EST reply actions  

The Dave Hyde article should be mandatory reading!

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by ct1361 on Dec 21, 2010 10:24 AM EST reply actions  

Keep Sparano and Henne for next season.

Pick up an new offensive coordinator and quarterbacks coach (Pennington?) in the offseason. Draft Cam Newton or Ryan Mallet or pick up Kyle Orton in free agency. I think Orton’s pretty good. This provides competition to Henne. Draft a center, a speedster wideout and a pass-catching tight end.

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by kdock on Dec 21, 2010 10:30 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

And in keeping Henne, I mean as a competent backup.

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by kdock on Dec 21, 2010 10:35 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

And if he doesn't produce right away, let's get Barkley

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by PotM on Dec 21, 2010 11:00 AM EST up reply actions  

Am I the only one who completely hates Pennington as a QB Coach?

His skillset is completely wrong for the archetype of a franchise guy. Why would you want a noodle-arm teaching your cannon?

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by Farorefox on Dec 21, 2010 12:08 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah,

because so many QB coaches out there can throw the ball 65 in the air.

by EVT on Dec 21, 2010 2:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Just my opinion

Let Henning retire. Promote David Lee to OC. Pennington to QB coach. Sign Donavon McNabb and draft a QB in the 1st Round, preferrably Cam Newton who could wait in the wings for 1-2 years and learn from the greatest black QB of all time (5 NFC Championship games, 1 Super Bowl) and the most accurate passer of all time. Let David Lee expand the Wildcat offense with more passing plays if we add Cam Newton. After all, the Wildcat was Lee’s idea.

If you can’t get Newton, then keep Draft Locker and let him learn from McNabb and CP10. Trade/Release/BBQ Chad Henne.

I do not think Sparano should get canned just yet. Although I could see Jeff Ireland being let go based on some awful draft choices (Pat White, Pat Turner, Phillip Merling, Lex Hilliard and Jalen Parmale over Peyton Hillis, etc.) and FA busts (Ernest Wilford, Gibril Wilson, all those special teams “standouts” we signed in ’08).

Sparano is not the problem with this team. The Fins are one of the most disciplined teams in the league, annually in the top 5 in fewest penalties committed. He’s also a an excellent clock manager (Henne however is not. In Fact, Chad Henne is possibly the worst game manager I’ve ever seen! Has he learned nothing from Pennington?!). Is Sparano too safe? Yes, at times, but I really don’t think he has a choice when you look at who he has at Offensive Coordinator and QB.

Another reason why Sparano should stick around is Mike Nolan. Tony hired Mike Nolan and if Sparano is fired, Nolan would be gone too. That would be the biggest loss for our team. Nolan turned turned this defense into one of the leagues best and without him, I’m not so sure we’d be the same.

Sparano should be given one more year. He’s earned it. And if we struggle again next year, then it’s time to move on and get a big name Head Coach.

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by JP 23 on Dec 21, 2010 12:19 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

FS is a luxury,clemmons and jones are doing well enough

On oline,people keep thinking center,but get a mauling guard to replace incognito and mcquistan,berger will be just fine. WR,as I said in another post,get Ginn back,the end,won’t cost us a draft pick. Tight end,I think if we give Sperry a chance,and let him spend an offseason in front of the jugs machine,hell do just fine. No offense but in truth,our needs aren’t as plain as day.

Guard,Middle linebacker"which could or could not be Edds",runningback,strong safety,right tackle. And not in that order. For those of us thinking we need a QB,another option is troy smith. A new offensive scheme in place can add 3 wins plain as day

by dolphinfan4lyfe on Dec 21, 2010 8:32 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Let's see what Sparano can do with a good QB under center.

He proved when Pennington was the signal caller that he could lead us to the playoffs. With another Veteran QB, I’m sure Sparano could get the job done.

If you guys recall, the year after we made the playoffs and won the division, we started started off 0-3. But we were really a couple of bad breaks and bad players (Ginn and Gibril Wilson) from starting off 2-1. That, the Pennington injury, and the Saints halftime meltdown (there’s a reason why the became Super Bowl champs) and we could have been 10-6 or better.

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by JP 23 on Dec 21, 2010 12:41 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

I love how you guys are willing to let a rookie QB develop

and not let Chad Henne develop when he is hampered by minimal talent, injuries on the O-line and receiver positions. He has no Tight End no running game.
But you expect a rookie QB to do better than him and you are willing to wait? We already have Chad And he has improved both his completion percentage and his yardage. Dan Henning is a major problem.
There is no reason to believe that Henne won’t be the answer.
Henne is only a second year starting QB. A rookie Qb wouldn’t help us anymore.

Dan Henning is the sole reason the dolphins aren't a Superbowl Caliber team.

by Gamer2102 on Dec 21, 2010 1:32 PM EST reply actions  

If Dan Henning is the "major problem" then how come Chad Henne's has shown improvement in completion % and yardage?

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by ct1361 on Dec 21, 2010 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

In spite of Henning

Henne has had those increases.
I think the lack of touchdowns show how badly this team has deteriorated. he has no run game cb’s know what routes his WR are going to run. Once the space shrinks its too easy to defend a WR they have no space to work. Without complex route running a WR has no where to really go.

Dan Henning is the sole reason the dolphins aren't a Superbowl Caliber team.

by Gamer2102 on Dec 21, 2010 2:12 PM EST up reply actions  

when you zone in on one reciever and dont look around what do you expect?

He is a sack potato also. Its sad

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by GoNuckingFuts on Dec 21, 2010 2:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Being hampered you mean by his inability to read the field?

I hardly believe Fasano is no qb. He is having a solid year.

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by GoNuckingFuts on Dec 21, 2010 2:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Fasano?

I meant true recieving TE
I’m not saying we should get rid of Fasano he is a great blocker and deserves to be our TE 1 (on a supposed running team)
But He is no todd heap or Tony gonzalez

Dan Henning is the sole reason the dolphins aren't a Superbowl Caliber team.

by Gamer2102 on Dec 21, 2010 2:14 PM EST up reply actions  

So he hasnt shown his catching ability this year?

We arent a west coast offense. Why would we want that? The guys in the locker room said fasano gained a few steps this year. That means he got faster if you dont understand…

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by GoNuckingFuts on Dec 21, 2010 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Say what you will, but Fasano is only a decent option when looking to stretch the middle of the field.

He is a good check down choice and can move the sticks (drop problems aside), but we haven’t seen him stretch the field much. He did his best work in 08 when play calling was much more creative (because of two good TEs) and he had a true receiving TE across from him.

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by PotM on Dec 21, 2010 2:41 PM EST up reply actions  

are you a michigan fan?

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by GoNuckingFuts on Dec 21, 2010 2:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Henne had an entire year to develop behind CP10 and almost 2 years of starting expirience to prove he can be the QB of the present and future. He's failed miserably.

What has he shown you to make you believe that he can be an top QB? What, because he has elite arm strength to make all the throws? So does Derek Anderson and JaMarcus Russell…. Look, you either have it in you or you don’t. For all the talk that it took Drew Brees years to become an elite QB, he always showed flashes of what he could eventually turn in to and even put up pro bowl numbers in his last couple years in San Diego. The only thing that Henne has proven is that he is a terrible game manager (based on all the wasted time outs he’s used up), highly inconsistent with his accuracy, especially on the deep ball which is supposed to be his strength, he locks on to recievers, he checks down to his backs way to quickly and doesn’t give his recievers enough time to get open even when he has plenty of time to sit in the pocket, and he makes poor decisions that lead to interceptions. This isn’t based on one game, this how he’s played the last 2 years on a game to game basis. He’s shown absolutely no improvement. That’s just who he is at this point…… Even when Brees struggled his first few years in the league, he still drew praise from his coaches and teammates (especially Ladanian Tomlinson). I don’t see Henne getting the same kind of support. Not from Marshall. Not from Fasano. Not from Parcells or Sparano….. And don’t let those improved stats full you, a lot of that has to do with him having Marshall and Bess, two of the leagues best, to throw to. And by the way, he didn’t show anything in college either! We need to start over and find a new QB of the future, one with real potential who can not only make all the throws, but has the other intangibles needed to be an elite NFL QB. Good leadership skills, a proven track record of playing big in big moments, a good game manager, and a proven winner. Henne has none of these intangibles. It’s time to move on.

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by JP 23 on Dec 21, 2010 3:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

i agree and disagree

What Chad has shown are “flashes”. thats exactly what he has shown.

i didnt think Chad played a bad game at all on Sunday. Chads most inconsistant feature to me as well is ball placement. On Sunday Chad missed a few notable throws, the two to P. cobbs most notable. One of which was a throw under deress were Chad forced the pace, but was hit backside in the motion of throwing as well. The other was a throw under pressure again, a common theme with Chad as well ive seen at times to get jittery under pressure at times and it was behind Cobbs. But there were other throws on Sunday that were excellent and frankly I felt as though Chad had a much better game on Sunday than he did against both Cleveland and in the Meadowlands

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by civwarbuff on Dec 21, 2010 3:28 PM EST up reply actions  

I have said multiple times on this forum that i thought Chad had a great game against oakland barring the forced interception at the goaline. The only signifigant difference between that game and this one against the Bills to me was run after catch. Our offense is a timing based offense that is really limited when we are showing an inability to run the ball because of the number of receivers that go out on a given play. So in that type of offense someones ball placement issues will surface prominently which isnt neccesarily a bad thing. but Chad is capable of standing in under pressure and making good decisions and accurates throws. weve all seen him do it. I am not sold on his abilities but to me he shows that he does have the material but it comes in spurts. it is also to be noted that we have not seen him operate our offense under a differnt scheme. No disrespect to Dan and everything hes done for us, but that is important

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by civwarbuff on Dec 21, 2010 3:35 PM EST up reply actions  

he over threw yet another wide open reciever down field that would have been 6 points.

I’ll agree that it was his worst game. But I can’t say he was very good either. He’s just an average QB which reflects our record.

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by JP 23 on Dec 21, 2010 3:38 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

and thats an argument i think alot of fans would agree with on.

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by civwarbuff on Dec 21, 2010 3:40 PM EST up reply actions  

i will agree that it is worrisome that he seems to be

consistantly inconsistant meaning he shows flashes in spurts in many areas. But also will fall short in the same areas. i dont think he does anything specifically badly, his moments both ways come in spurts throughout many areas of his game.

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by civwarbuff on Dec 21, 2010 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

fool*

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by JP 23 on Dec 21, 2010 3:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

If you were to ask me do you feel as though Chad cannot be a great quarterback in this league i would tell you i am by no means sold on that. But I am willing to look at other options in the offseason if they present themselves. i feel as though Tony shoud return next season without a doubt, and if he made the decision to move away from Chad for the longterm i would trust his judgement there as well

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by civwarbuff on Dec 21, 2010 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Umm the biggest problemw ith Derek Anderson and Jamarcus

were their accuracy issues.
Henne is a gunslinger he needs to be averaging more yards an attempt.
last year Henne showed flashes he lead our team in come from behind situations. This year he has done the same.
He is extremely young and doesn’t show any reason why he can’ t improve

Dan Henning is the sole reason the dolphins aren't a Superbowl Caliber team.

by Gamer2102 on Dec 21, 2010 7:32 PM EST up reply actions  

these two

These two are the reason Miami is lost so many games

1Co 15:3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
1Co 15:4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
Rom 10:9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. Rom 10:10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

by spirit1st on Dec 21, 2010 1:40 PM EST reply actions  

On henne

i think he’l be around next year. in the draft, we might look to tyrod taylor from Virginia Tech, his stats wont jump off the page, but the way he plays using his feet but always looking down the field looks alot like mike vick, definitely not as fast, but a 5th round pick for a decent mobile backup wouldnt be a bad idea

by danlr13 on Dec 21, 2010 2:06 PM EST reply actions  

Tryod Taylor?

bahahaha

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by GoNuckingFuts on Dec 21, 2010 2:22 PM EST up reply actions  

yep

the next Antwan randel el haha

by danlr13 on Dec 21, 2010 3:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Good thing there will be a lockout next year because Henne sucks.

I dont feel like watching poor leadership and inconsistency all year again. We could change our OC but HENNE SUCKS AT READING THE FIELD AND IS FAR TOO PREDICTABLE. Am i the only one who actaully watches the game. Screw the stats…

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by GoNuckingFuts on Dec 21, 2010 2:09 PM EST reply actions  

Yep, Henne just appears to be a dunce

And his shoddy accuracy isn’t helping the cause, either. Like I’ve said countless times, accuracy should be the first detail every QB is graded on (intelligence/awareness should be 1.b on that list). Things like arm strength and size are important, but I’ve always believed that the smartest people on the field should be the quarterback and offensive linemen. If arm strength was the most important factor for QB success (and let’s face it, it’s easy to fall in love with the rocket-armed QBs), then Randall Cunningham and Jake Plummer would’ve won 10 Super Bowls apiece.

Luck is the prize of this draft, and Carolina is notorious for wheeling and dealing its draft picks (and not necessarily being good at doing so), so why not trade away most of our draft and get the guy we need? I just want a QB and a C this offseason, but I’ll put off the center position if it means getting a franchise QB with Marino BALLS. And as most of you know, I value Dolphins draft picks more than I value my immediate family members, so you know I am desperate if I am ready to sell the farm for one player.

Desperately hoping Nick Foles and Michael Brewster come out this year.
I've never won a Matty, so I'll give myself the "Classic Marino BALLS" award. Thanks to all who voted for me.

by kmb8488 on Dec 21, 2010 2:34 PM EST up reply actions  

I voted no

Like his energy and all, but if our OL is this awful, and that’s his expertise, I am not sure he can turn the team around, especially sticking with Henning and all

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by MoLimits on Dec 21, 2010 3:07 PM EST reply actions  

coach

I liked Sparano when he was hired, but he has proven he’s not a head coach. There’s just not enough attention to detail. He didn’t notice how sorry his special teams were until the New England game. He still doesn’t know how to run 2-minute drills. His speciality is the offensive line (which we spent a lot of money on) and they suck. We don’t need Cowher. Let the Defensive Coordinator become the head coach. It wouldn’t be that expensive and then we could turn our attention to getting a real Offensive coordinator. One more point: Henne is a dumb-ass. Enough said.

by straighttalk on Dec 21, 2010 3:39 PM EST reply actions  

i cant imagine you actually feel that way lol

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by civwarbuff on Dec 21, 2010 3:52 PM EST up reply actions  

Not enough attention to details? Our team commits the fewest penalties. If thats not paying attention to detail then I dont know what is. Discipline is not the problem.

And he knew we had a problem on special teams before the New England game. But what could he really do about it? He wasn’t going to fire your ST coach until the unit actually cost us a game. And he was stuck with the personnel he had, he’s not the GM. That’s Ireland and Parcells fault for not bringing in better special teamers in the offseason instead of waiting till after the season had already began when good ST players were already signed to other teams……

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by JP 23 on Dec 21, 2010 4:04 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

exactly

but i really do feel Tony right now has a large say in our personnel desions right now. The offseason moves we made and how many there were at the offensicve line showed that to me.

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by civwarbuff on Dec 21, 2010 4:07 PM EST up reply actions  

i could be wrong lol

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by civwarbuff on Dec 21, 2010 4:07 PM EST up reply actions  

I dont think so. lol

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by JP 23 on Dec 21, 2010 4:41 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

take Mattys first paragraph about the quarterback situation

that in itself stings

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by civwarbuff on Dec 21, 2010 3:49 PM EST reply actions  

We definitely need a change at offensive coordinator, but no one was complaining when Pennington was the starter.

What does that say about Henne’s ability to run an offense….

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by JP 23 on Dec 21, 2010 3:53 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

but the offense we run is much more suited to Chad P’s abilties. And the fact is we were running the ball effectively then. Penne is a better quarterback at this time of Chads devolpment, i agree with you and im not saying otherwise.

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by civwarbuff on Dec 21, 2010 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

but i think this coaching staff will be very reluctant to start with another rookie at the quarterback position and try to devolop him as a player.

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by civwarbuff on Dec 21, 2010 4:01 PM EST up reply actions  

weve invested alot in Chad and this staff may not ride on him in the sense of direct job security

but he is their pet project and i think fans will show reluctance to give this staff credibility on personnel descions in the future if we abonden that project now.

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by civwarbuff on Dec 21, 2010 4:03 PM EST up reply actions  

That is where i'll have to disagree. we've invested nothing in Chad other than giving him the opportunity to be our QB of the future.

He was a 2nd rounder which means we can let him go whenever. He wasn’t given a huge guaranteed contract like a JaMarcus Russell for example.

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by JP 23 on Dec 21, 2010 4:14 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I'm not saying we should draft a QB and just throw him into the fire.

We should sign a veteran QB (McNabb) and draft a QB to develop behind him for a year or 2. At worst, we draft a top QB to compete with Chad. But you cannot bring in a veteran QB (like McNabb) to start over Henne, after he’s been our starter for 2 years now, and then hand him the keys in couple years again. That won’t work. Either you move on from Chad or you stick with him.

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by JP 23 on Dec 21, 2010 4:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

The offense isnt more suited for Pennington, hes just more accurate and made better decisions to make up for his lack of arm strength.

Our running game may not be the same, but we have better recievers and he’s still missing those guys.

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by JP 23 on Dec 21, 2010 4:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

one thing I havent read here is...

the priority of changes that need to be made…In what order do we make changes that can facilitate the option that we may get “stuck” with some current players/coaches…remember, it sounds good to make these changes, but it doesnt guarantee success unless other pieces correlate with that position,wether coaching or playing..I’m dead tired of not making the playoffs and need to inject some life back into this team..can we all donate to the fins to help them with player personnel..shouldnt that be allowed?..If every fan donated 10 bucks, we could land a team like the Yankees!!!!!!..Ready to paypal now!

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by zero13 on Dec 21, 2010 5:46 PM EST reply actions  

shouldn't your poll ask

do u want sparano to stay, do u want him to go or do u want him gone if we can get gruden or cowher. i mean i like sparano but to get the 1 of two mega star coachs u cant pass that up.

in the end its all about the aqua green and orange

by phin4ever on Dec 21, 2010 6:44 PM EST reply actions  

i absolutly believe that stephen ross is in no position at the moment to relieve tony of his duties

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by civwarbuff on Dec 21, 2010 7:46 PM EST up reply actions  

I like this article. Good write-up Matty.

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by GoNuckingFuts on Dec 21, 2010 7:03 PM EST reply actions  

Good write-up and to the point Matty.

Have to give it up to ya; putting the truth in words to the point it hurts, but in a good way. Not sure about whether or not Sparano goes or not; even though he does make the dession on who to keep or get ride of with this team (this does include players and coaches that are under him). My question about this if he has this kind of power why don’t he use it when it counts? Why does he let players keep playing when they are not getting the job done on the feild? Switch out the players that are not performing on the feild with other players that are willing to get their chance to show what they have on the feild during game time. HHHHmmmmmmmmmm…………………

I hate to say it Sparano may have to go. We need to adjust this problem during the off-season, and I don’t mean to get one of the biggest names out there to take over. What I mean is to get somebody to take over thats not afraid to speak his mind (not only to the players, but also to the corinators on the team). Maybe this is a little bit harsh to say, and a little far out there to be true. The only person that I whould think would be a perfict fit would be Tony Dungy. Look at what he did during his time with Indy. I do understand he left to be with his family here in FL., and to spend time with his children. My question is what would it take to get Dungy to come to Miami to be HC? Anybody have any answers to this questions please respond I would love to read them.

by phinfansc1980 on Dec 21, 2010 7:58 PM EST reply actions  

Sorry, but when there is alot of unrest and poor performances within the team,

the onus lies on the Head Coach. Yeah we can say Sparano is a good motivator, but why couldn’t he motivate us to win at home. You can say he adjusted an ineffective ST, but why did he not do the same for our offense. Right now, the Parcells rumored remarks about Henne is running rampant in my mind, but now I give more credence to the rumor, but I also think he ran after realizing his mistake. A mistake that Ireland and Sparano has to pay the price for.

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by fin4three5yrs on Dec 21, 2010 9:48 PM EST reply actions  

Harbaugh or Chin

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by Patssuck456 on Dec 21, 2010 11:58 PM EST reply actions  

I love Sparanos enthusiasm but

his enthusiasm has not translated into wins.I do like TS but perhaps a major overhaul is in order starting with the coaching staff and qb.Miami has not really been in many positions to land a solid first rounder at qb due to the fact that we have been basically a mediocre team year in and year out.When you finish mid pack every year you are always too late to get that number one starter that we have needed since DM13 departedThe few times we were in position to draft a #1 qb the franchise opted to go in another direction ,ie Jake Long.(which hasn’t turned out too bad).I know this is not a popular opinion but it is just that, my opinion.

by con10der on Dec 22, 2010 12:13 AM EST reply actions  

DREW BREES

http://www.nfl.com/players/drewbrees/profile?id=BRE229498

Year 3 folks. I’m just saying, let’s see what Henne can do with a better OC, who doesn’t pull out the wildcat like he’s gambling on how many times the dolphins run it this year.

by BayAreafinfan on Dec 22, 2010 1:25 AM EST reply actions  

Gruden or Billick would be an excellent choice

Keep Mike Nolan and let Gruden or Billick fix the offense. The next HC should be an offensive guru. Either one of them would be able to determine if Henne can be a franchise QB. Remember Billick was the OC when the Vikings went 15-1 plus he won a SB w/the Ravens. Nolan was his DC. Keep Ronnie Brown and draft another RB who will complement him such as Mark Ingram. Fix OL w/Logan Mankins and draft a Ctr. Also either one of them will be able to determine if Wallace or Moore are the real deal. Luck is not going to be coming out this year because he wants to get his degree. In 2012, Luck and Barkley from USC will probably be available. In the meantime, sign a vet at QB.

by sundevil11 on Dec 22, 2010 1:32 AM EST reply actions  

More on Gruden

When Gruden took over for Dungy, he won a SB w/Brad Johnson and he also kept Monty Kiffin as the DC. That is why I believe that he would keep Nolan as DC. Remember he worked with all of the top QB’s who were drafted in the 1st round. He also helped Rich Gannon resurrect his career. He will also know who would be a good vet QB to sign that will fit his system. Our offense will definitely improve under his regime.

by sundevil11 on Dec 22, 2010 1:38 AM EST reply actions  

Keep Sparano and Henne

Though the names out there such as Cowher and Billick and Gruden whatever sound good. The Dolphins need to start having stability which has been somewhat of an issue since Wannstedt (stupid bastard) left. Sparano has not lost the guys in the locker room quite yet and I don’t believe that he will. I believe that much of that is attributed to his intensity that us fans see every Sunday while he is pacing the sidelines. He brings these guys up to that intensity every week. The Dolphins need stability and Sparano brings that to the table. He has a great group of young guys to work with and they all know the scheme and what is expected of them. As for Henne he just needs a chance in a different offense aka anything other then one run by Dan Henning. I think the Dolphins should draft a RB in the first round and then either a QB or a center in the second, I believe that they could get a WR too in the draft to be a compliment to Brandon Marshall (sorry but I just don’t think Hartline is cutting it) deffensively they are pretty set.

by Pasker720 on Dec 22, 2010 2:10 AM EST reply actions  

I don't want TS back next season

Say what you will, but i voted NO! Saying yes to TS’s return is saying yes to mediocrity. If we have a chance to get a coach that’s a proven winner, you take it. I have seen nothing from this coaching staff that suggests another year will change anything but our chances to get a very good coach. We need to make a move now while the oppertunity is there.

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by inishe8 on Dec 22, 2010 9:14 AM EST reply actions  

tired of mediocrity..well said......agree.......we all got boners when Parcells came....

and it lifted some spirits,but as soon as he left, we settled in for another non playoff season….we need more life….i want the holy shit factor…here come the fins!!!!..no more howling,no more marc anthony,no more j-lo…get some no name d and some come from behind offense(only when needed of-course)…..

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by zero13 on Dec 22, 2010 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

We could have had Tebow!!!

From SI and Peter King….

“Tebowmania. Given a chance to see what he could do, Tim Tebow made his first home start, came back from a 17-0 deficit and beat the Texans 24-23. He threw for 309 yards, tossed only one terrible throw (an end-zone interception), played confidently, and took the Broncos out of the running for the first pick in the draft. “I haven’t thought it that,‘’ he said. More about Andrew Luck later in this column, Tim, but what it means is you won’t have Luck breathing down your neck. For at least a year.”

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/peter_king/12/26/week-16/index.html#ixzz19LgQnpQc

Contrast that to Henne who has yet to come from behind this year, even when given the ball and time on the clock.

by JImbo111 on Dec 27, 2010 4:15 PM EST reply actions  

We've had generations of stop gap QB's

And they all sucked!!!! Time to Draft/draft/draft. We missed Tebow, AND McCoy last year when they were available.

by JImbo111 on Dec 27, 2010 5:23 PM EST reply actions  

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