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Miami Dolphins: Disappointing Season? Not Exactly

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I know a lot of Miami Fans are very disappointed in the season right now.  Playoffs?  P-P-P-PLAYOFFS?  Not bloody likely!

Especially with the Baltimore Ravens pulling out an unlikely overtime win against the inept Houston Texans (stupid Texans).

But as the likelihood of making the playoffs has faded, I have noticed that I am a little less concerned about the outcome of the games - and that has allowed me to be a little more objective in watching and evaluating the play of the team in different areas, instead of harping on the "unit du jour" that is falling down and contributing to a loss during a particular week.

Instead of just seeing the parts that are not working, I am actually starting to see some reasons for hope.  Maybe not much hope for a Super Bowl run this season (I don't think I am bursting anyone's bubble here, but if so - sorry to go all Debbie Downer on you... go ahead and hope amongst yourselves for another game or so), but certainly the foundation is there to build on for next.

Let me 'splain....  No, there is too much... let me sum up:

For one thing, Bill Parcells has left.  Hmmm.... Hey Lefty... the Dolphins are still rebuilding; they have not identified their long term solution at Quarterback (easy Hennsters!  I'm not saying he's done.  I'm just saying it is still unsettled); there are personnel questions on every unit; and the coaching staff is far from bulletproof - are you trying to say this is a good thing or a bad thing?

I am saying that it might just be what the Dolphins need in order to take the next big step forward!  Let's face it, the Tuna is great at building big, strong, solid lines, and pretty doggone good at picking Linebackers!  And this is the first thing that has to be done when trying to turn a team around from being a cellar dweller in the NFL to being a contender from week to week.  And that is exactly where the Fins are this season - contenders in every game (please don't bring up the Chicago Bears game), but not truly good enough to be contenders for a title.

Star-divide

We fans are all frustrated because the Miami Dolphins seemed like they were in the same position last season, and so we expected them to take that next step this year. 

And they haven't done it - in spite of the big name free agency signings - in spite of the 3rd offseason of rebuilding - in spite of the return of key players from injury - and in spite of the solid year of seasoning, and 2nd year of playing for the quarterback that was expected to be the solution at the position.  Were our expectations unreasonable?  Clearly not, when other teams in the NFL have been able to perform major overhauls from pretenders to contenders in a single season, and other teams are able to remain contenders every season despite losses of key personnel.

But the teams that successfully put it all together have to start with solid lines.  No one in the NFL goes very far in contention without good Offensive and Defensive lines.  And while the Dolphins have made quite a few gaffs in personnel decisions, they have established a top D-line, and an O-line that could be one player away from being in the same class.  Imagine acquiring a Top 5 Center!  Even assuming Vernon Carey comes back at Right Tackle, with Richie Incognito, John Jerry, and Jake Long all having a solid year of playing together, an upgrade at Center would make the entire running game better!  With Berger and Garner, the Fins have solid depth.  Keep Joe Berger as a very good backup, and let Nate Garner try to earn a starting spot at Guard or RT.

I still fault Sparano for mucking around with a pretty good O-line from last season, and turning it into a mediocre unit.  I swear if he starts playing mad scientist again this offseason, I am going to drive down there and go all rabid Igor on him! (what hump?)

But what does all this have to do with Bill P leaving?  I kind of think that MAYBE, just maybe, Sparano and Ireland will perform better without the pressure of having Parcells second guessing them.  If not, we can always fire them! (well, not US, but... you know... ) 

AND, the other part of the equation is that Bill P has already pretty much executed on his forte... building the base.  I never really thought of Bill as being especially talented in the skill areas.  Sure, he had a few hits like Terry Glenn and Drew Bledsoe, but if you ask me about his time with Dallas Cowboys, I would say he doesn't get credit for Tony Romo.  Jerry Jones rammed that one down his throat.  Same with Terrell Owens.  But hardly anyone would argue about Bill's talent in building the base - Lines, Linebackers, coaching staff....

So, perhaps with a little leeway, Ireland and Sparano will grow a pair (yes, one pair between the two of them) and draft some SPEED this next offseason, rather than just bulk!  Or grab a QB in the first round!  Or fire Dan Henning and bring in a vertical passing game!  Something UN-Parcells-like!  MAYBE that is what the Fins will need to get to the next level?

But I digress........

What I started out talking about was the improvements I have been noticing over the last few games... even when parts of the team were falling apart.  And it is these improvements that give me hope.

First, the Defense in general.  I have not really focused on the D the last few articles, but that is mainly because I have been ripping on the play calling or offensive execution!  But the Miami Dolphins Defense has been quietly improving all season long.  Some of the improvement is due to rookies getting their legs under them and contributing, like Nolan Carroll and Reshad Jones.  But most of the improvement seems to be coming from the veterans actually playing better - guys like Paul Soliai and Tony McDaniel.  And guys that are relatively new or young, like Tim Dobbins or Sean Smith are getting better as the season goes on (although let me tell you something about Smith!  The guy had a chance at SIX balls in this past game!  More than a chance, they were bouncing off his hands!  You remember Clifford Franklin?  and that gooey stuff they smeared all over his hands?  If I'm Sparano, I am slopping up his hands with that stuff and putting him on the jugs machine for 2 hrs a day this week!) 

where was I....

Oh yeah... so this Miami Defense looks good, but it is because of talent AND coaching.  I give Mike Nolan tons of credit, and the worst thing that could happen to the Fins next season is for Nolan to leave.  If this defense is kept in place for two years in a row, I expect them to be Championship caliber next season.

The other thing I like is the development of some of these young guys.  I mentioned Nolan Carroll for his defensive improvement, but I have been on his bandwagon for Kick Returner all season long.  And I like what I continue to see.  And despite that lame-ass tripping stunt by that ex-Jets coach, Carroll took the high road and refused to get drawn into making immature or spiteful comments in the media about it.  The kid is only going to get better.

Other young guys like Reshad Jones, Chris Clemmons, Marlon Moore, Roberto Wallace, Koa Misi, and John Jerry all are also playing well and look to have quite a bit of upside.  It is this kind of youth movement that is so difficult to get going, but so worth it once you get established and only have to bring in a handful of new guys each season - rather than overhaul the roster with youth all at once.

Also, the team has pretty good depth (don't forget they have 11 guys on Injured Reserve - ELEVEN!).  While all those guys won't be back next year, some of them are quality players and will upgrade the roster when they return.

And it actually looks like Special Teams has started to improve.  At least the are not losing games on their own, and occasionally they are winning them (Brandon Fields for MVP?).

Lastly, I don't want to make excuses for Chad Henne but I am not ready to write him off yet.  I would like to see him play with an improved line and a strong running game.  Right now teams can shut down on running game with 7 guys - they aren't even playing 8 in the box.  That is tough on any QB, but Henne also has a poor offensive game plan (more than one team this season has commented on how predictable the Dolphins offense is), and a rotating stable of WRs.  Henne may not ever get to the level the Fins need him to be in order to take the team deep into the playoffs.  And I sincerely hope they draft a quality QB next offseason.  But many QBs on poor teams take longer to develop and are not fully baked by the end of their second playing season.  These last few games should tell us a lot about Henne's future.

The kicker here is that the Miami Dolphins are having a winning season.  I ain't over till it's over, but they could easily end up over .500 with a possible 10-6 record.  The team isn't BAD.... they just aren't good enough yet.... YET.

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Im glad you mentioned guys like Reshad Jones….I’ve been waiting for that guy to get on the defense…ever since we drafted him from Georgia i looked at his tape and that kid hits HARDD…..Carrol is also getting better as well..As for the Henne situation, I’ve defended him way too many times already and its getting too much for me…i think im staying on the other side of the fence if he doesnt improve in these last 3 games…Btw, Tell me A.J Edds is coming back because i honestly liked what i saw from him (in college)…

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by Marshall88 on Dec 15, 2010 5:25 AM EST reply actions  

Oh.... Jason Allen ... the pick that keeps on giving ...

I didn’t actually see the game, but someone at work told me he fell on a TD pass to Mason. He also fell back when the Texans played the Jets … on the game winning TD… just thought I would bring that up….

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by Jason Scott_90 on Dec 15, 2010 6:09 AM EST reply actions  

Yes he did, Mason made him look like a fool

I thought getting rid of Jason Allen that he would stop hurting this team? If he makes a play in both of those games we would only be 1 game out of a wildcard instead of 2.

by Agent J 78 on Dec 15, 2010 9:03 AM EST up reply actions  

At least he could catch an INT.........

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by luvs2drnk on Dec 15, 2010 4:49 PM EST up reply actions  

God, he just loves to piss us off doesnt he?

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by Patssuck456 on Dec 16, 2010 11:45 PM EST up reply actions  

IF NOT NOW..."DAMN-IT WHEN"???

Da SAME OLD, SAME OLD…“RE-WIND”???…

Da DOLPHINS DID WAT DEY D0 BEST 0N Da ROAD — “WIN” — BUTT, WILL Da MIAMI DOLPHINS CONTINUE 2 PLAY HIGH LEVEL PHYSICALLY TOUGH, HARD NOSE, INSPIRED FOOTBALL 4 THEIR MANY, MANY “LOYAL H0METOWN FANS” or DO WE GET Da JEKYLL n “HIDE” SHOW 4 Da DOLPHINS BOSS n OWNER STEVE ROSS 2 WITNESS AT HOME ONCE AGAIN — (THEIR IN-EPT n PIZZ POOR GAME PERFORMANCE n APPLIED GARBAGE SKILLS) — IS IT FAIR 2 SAY DAT JEFF IRELAND WILL Be ATTENDING Da MIAMI / BUFFALO GAME 2 WITNESS HIS “HIGHLY FAILED n INEPTITUDE QUARTERBACK PRODIGY CHAD HENNE”??? — (DAT GUY COULD’NT HIT A BULL IN Da @ZZ WITH AN IRONING BOARD — HE HAS EXCEPTIONALLY WEAK SKILLS n BLIND 2 MATCH!!!)…Da DOLPHINS NEED A MUCH BETTA n “IMMENSELY TALENTED QUARTERBACK n SOON” — MR. DAN MARINO CANNOT BELIEVE HIS OWN EYES AT WAT HE SEES AT HIS “HIGHLY SKILLED n ELITE POSITION” — (“HENNE GETTS ABSOLUTELY NO PAT ON Da HEAD HERE”) — CHAD HENNE IS ABSOLUTE GARBAGE — 2 SAY Da LEAST!!!

p.s. See More - U DAMN RITE “EYE DO”???…miami dolphins, da bills r cumin 2 sunlife stadium 2 win da fuc’n game -“DEY HAVE ONLY 2 WIN Da FOOTBALL GAME 2 PLAY 4 NOW” — (WITH or WITH-OUT SKILLS CHALLENGED CHAD HENNE AS Da DOLPHINS QUARTERBACK & PLAYOFF HOPES)!!!

 

MR. R0NNIE BR0WN WE Da MANY MANY LOYAL FANS OF Da MIAMI DOLPHINS CHALLENGE "U" n "ALL" Da REST OF Da DOLPHINS "TEAM" 2 PERFORM n WIN @ H0ME 4 US vs Da BROWNS....IF NOT NOW...."WHEN"????

JEKYL n HYDE MIAMI DOLPHINS W0N 0N Da R0AD AGAIN...PITIFUL NEWS D0LPHIN FANS--NEXT GAME@H0ME WIL EVERY1 SH0W UP 2PERF0RM 2WIN Da FUCn GAME

by javinburr on Dec 15, 2010 6:09 AM EST reply actions  

Well.... we have this to look forward to ....

If we do go to the playoffs every game we play will be an away game…. recipe for the SB … hmmm … maybe ….

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by Jason Scott_90 on Dec 15, 2010 6:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Caps Lock?

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by Rytackle on Dec 15, 2010 6:57 AM EST up reply actions  

TRANSLATOR!!

I need a Translator in here Please!?
I don’t know what you just said little kid…but you special

Everytime he posts, I see that video in my head.

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by Fr8Train on Dec 15, 2010 9:24 AM EST up reply actions  

This kid was posting on Omar's blog, as well.

His all-cap ramblings were the same there. It’s just hard on the eyes.

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by kdock on Dec 15, 2010 9:28 AM EST up reply actions  

HA! HA!

(my all caps are on purpose)

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by Tunaflipper on Dec 15, 2010 10:04 AM EST up reply actions  

HA HA Jaye and sylent bawb, eye luve dat moovie Frate

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by Ray Finkle, Isotoner Glove Spokesman on Dec 15, 2010 11:33 AM EST up reply actions  

LOL I hope that was a homage to the dearly departed.

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by texascowpunk on Dec 15, 2010 8:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Um the person that uddered those famous words, Barbara Billingsley.

She just passed about 2 months ago.

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by texascowpunk on Dec 15, 2010 8:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep. Her and Tom Bosley.

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by texascowpunk on Dec 15, 2010 9:27 PM EST up reply actions  

I laugh everytime I think of her and the Jive scene....

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by Fr8Train on Dec 15, 2010 9:52 PM EST up reply actions  

It is one of the greatest comedy scenes of all time.

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"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
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by texascowpunk on Dec 15, 2010 9:55 PM EST up reply actions  

yep

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by LeftCoastFinFan on Dec 15, 2010 10:16 PM EST up reply actions  

WTF????

hey buddy we aren’t in pre-k so learn to write.

by ceo86 on Dec 15, 2010 2:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Dude everyone of you comments is this crap. If you can not use English or do not know how

to turn off the damn cap locks then just stop.

"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
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by texascowpunk on Dec 15, 2010 2:42 PM EST up reply actions  

You know, if I didn't know better....

I’d say he cuts and pastes the exact same thing every time he posts….

Hmmm……(off to research)

"The People's Poster"
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by Fr8Train on Dec 15, 2010 3:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Hmmmm, I'm flagging him.

Look at his comment history.
Same response cut and pasted 3x, same with his last response….and his first ronnie brown response was cut and pasted well over 10-20×.....

"The People's Poster"
"Let an opponent graze your skin and you smash into his flesh; let an opponent smash into your flesh and you fracture his bone; let an opponent fracture your bone and you take his life! Do not be concerned with your escaping safely; lay your life before him!" - Bruce Lee

by Fr8Train on Dec 15, 2010 3:36 PM EST up reply actions  

To be correct.

He cut and pasted the same comment 65 times…..

SIXTY FIVE TIMES…..

wTf D0000DE?

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by Fr8Train on Dec 15, 2010 3:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Wow, WTF? Hes worse than that Jets fan that pulls that crap.

What a douche move. Hopefully Matty will address it.

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by texascowpunk on Dec 15, 2010 3:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I didn't realize it was that bad....Holy cow.

I thought the typing itself was horrible, but 65 times?
someone could have a seizure :)

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by Fr8Train on Dec 15, 2010 4:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah that guy is assinine.

"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
Apple has a new anti-sexting feature. Brett Favre, you going to want to get the Android!

by texascowpunk on Dec 15, 2010 5:07 PM EST up reply actions  

WTH? is he trying to give us all migranes trying to rea that stuff?

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by PotM on Dec 15, 2010 5:12 PM EST up reply actions  

read

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by PotM on Dec 15, 2010 5:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I wont even read that crap to begin with.

"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
Apple has a new anti-sexting feature. Brett Favre, you going to want to get the Android!

by texascowpunk on Dec 15, 2010 5:16 PM EST up reply actions  

LMAO hey, TCP

I thought you were joining in on the fun as well with:

Dude everyone of “you” comments is this crap.

But i see it’s just a typo lol

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by 2madison9 on Dec 15, 2010 5:48 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL Yeah that should have read your. Hes frustrating to say the least.

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"I'd rather be a dead Gram Parsons than a live Garth Brooks"-Kinky Friedman
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by texascowpunk on Dec 15, 2010 5:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Sure, he had a few hits like Terry Glenn and Drew Bledsoe, but if you ask me about his time with Dallas Cowboys, I would say he doesn’t get credit for Tony Romo.

Not Glenn. He wanted a D-lineman; Kraft wanted Glenn and overruled Parcells. It was because of the Glenn pick that he actually resigned from the Patriots coaching staff – and it’s also why he referred to Glenn as “she” in the rookie discussions. He actually stormed out of the Patriots War Room after the Glenn pick and let Kraft and Kraft’s personnel manager do the rest of the draft – picking Lawyer Milloy and Tedy Bruschi, among others.

Strangely enough, though, Parcells’ first action as Cowboys GM a few years later was to get Glenn. Hah.

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by Comedic.Sans on Dec 15, 2010 6:31 AM EST reply actions  

right about Glenn

good catch :)

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by LeftCoastFinFan on Dec 15, 2010 11:55 AM EST up reply actions  

nice post lefty

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by Kdog92 on Dec 15, 2010 6:49 AM EST reply actions  

Thanks for your thoughts.

I think Ireland deserves a little credit here…in April a lot of us were going “Koa who???…what’s a Koa?”…and Misi is one of the best rookie defenders in the NFL right now…he’s a major reason Wake is having the year he’s having.

The Jones and Carroll picks look great now….once you get by YB (Sapp and Harris are spare parts) the rest of the secondary are a bunch of kids…this unit will be very good for a long time if we keep it togther.

Further props for Nolan for teaching Sean Smith to tackle. Yes we bemoan all the dropped INTs but he has become infinitely better at forcing the run on the corner. His early takedown of LT Sunday basically told the Jets they weren’t going to be able to run outside anymore.

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by PhrozenPhish on Dec 15, 2010 6:54 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

Jones and Carroll were 5th rounders as well

talk about getting good value on day 3 of the draft.

by Agent J 78 on Dec 15, 2010 9:05 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm all for giving Ireland credit

but it will be very interesting to see how he handles things with Bill P completely out of the picture. I am not convinced that Ireland had the leeway to make his own decisions last offseason…. at least I am pretty sure that he was on some sort of leash.
=)

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by LeftCoastFinFan on Dec 15, 2010 11:58 AM EST up reply actions  

I think BP gave him the positons and helped him a little, but I think the actual draft board was set up by him, but who knows

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by PotM on Dec 15, 2010 5:15 PM EST up reply actions  

not to mention that our main questions going into the season

Were NT,FS,and who was going to replace the production of JT and Porter.

Let’s take a look,shall we

1. They started out the season with NT being Starks and Solai. Everyone faulted the front office for not picking up another one. So far,we moved Starks back to end,and Solai has been a pleasant suprise. Say what you want about the Grant and Douglas releases,but in my eyes,were better off with our current depth. TBH,injuries aside “id never wish for another player to get hurt” but its the best thing that could have happened to this team,seeing as if Starks was still at Nose,we might never have gotten to see how much Solai has progressed.

2. FS- Two words,Jones and Clemmons. At first glance,I wanted to see Jones take some snaps at SS,to see if he could replace Bell when he retires. But now that I think of it,I think Clemmons would make the better replacement for Bell,with Jones filling the FS hole. Something tells me with Vontae on Clemmons side,we could easily put Jones on the other side,and not have to worry about Smith,Nolan Carrol covering slot,not only is our secondary young,but with the ability we are seeing in them now,man this secondary is going to be scary a year or two from now.

3.Production from our linebackers,again two words,Cameron Wake.two more words,Paul Solai. Between the two,and the suprising play of Koa Misi,there’s only one hole left to be filled on this D. Add a gamechanging MLB and this D is set for years. I know we have Dansby,but I want someone else next to him,an explosive player able to set the edge continuously,that will allow Misi to focus on the role he was drafted for.

I like that this front office handles questions for now when they come,Oline needs some addressing,tight end as well,QB id rather wait until next year,maybe poach a veteran and let him show Henne how to lead this team. With a center,a pass catching speed tight end,and a couple more cogs to this offense,I see us being a modern day Bmore in a year or two.

When’s the last time you could say that about this team…..

by dolphinfan4lyfe on Dec 15, 2010 12:34 PM EST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

Very well said, and for the record,

i have been behind Clemons at FS since last season. You never know if it will pan out, when you start a new guy, but Clemons had all the intangibles and dropped to the 5th round due to injury, so i expected (hoped for) him to play like a higher round pick.

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by LeftCoastFinFan on Dec 15, 2010 12:50 PM EST up reply actions  

IF he hits the jugs machines hard this offseason, he won't have to worry about being converted to SS.

Personally I think Jones makes a better SS than FS.

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by PotM on Dec 15, 2010 5:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Rec'd and welcome back!

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by PotM on Dec 15, 2010 5:14 PM EST up reply actions  

And another thing....

Wake deserves all the accolades and attention he’s getting…even more so becasue he’s a “feel-good” story on top of everything else….But…

Another Dolphin who deserves to go to the Pro Bowl is Vontae Davis…other teams aren’t even trying him anymore.

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by PhrozenPhish on Dec 15, 2010 7:04 AM EST reply actions  

I Agree

These two guys are putting together fine seasons. Wake is a monster, and it’s a good thing when opposing QBs are targeting anyone but Vontae’s assignment.

And hey, at least we’re not 1-12!

by cordy_1971 on Dec 15, 2010 11:10 AM EST up reply actions  

yup, also agree

but these guys flashed last year and we all sort of expected them to do well, so I focused more on the guys are adding more value than anticipated. No slight intended to either Vontae or Wake. I am jazzed at their development. It also puts us in a stronger spot next season.

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by LeftCoastFinFan on Dec 15, 2010 12:01 PM EST up reply actions  

henee

Disappointed in the coaching!
this quarter back will Never be a winner 1He a loser!He brings the team down .Not up!
Better to use the other guy or No quarter back !
If they have no faith in the other Guy why they hanging on to HIM?
Why have they not got a new Quarter back?
Are the coaches blind or what?
They have a hurt guy, that does them no good! I guy they appear to have no faith in and a guy they put lots of faith in .that hurts the team LOTS!
it the defense that wins the few games they win! they could have had a very good team with a good quarter back !
They have hardly any faith in there running team. and great faith in this quarter back!

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by spirit1st on Dec 15, 2010 7:44 AM EST reply actions  

another short bus rider

WTF is going on on this site. do u just allow retards to join and post there babble Matty??? hey spirit1st i think its nap time

by ceo86 on Dec 15, 2010 2:13 PM EST up reply actions  

those guys who cover the receivers should get Some training in catching passes

They have dropped more balls the season! Balls thrown to them!
Hardly ever catch them !
they could really help the team ,if they were taught to catch those balls!
Wonder why the coaches do not think that is PART OF THE GAME?
The Coaches made So many Mistakes! It amazing this team has done so well !

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1Co 15:4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
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by spirit1st on Dec 15, 2010 7:55 AM EST reply actions  

Defensive backs are not coached to catch balls. They are coached to knock them down.

If they could catch they would all be wide receivers. Rule one is to knock the ball down not catch it. I wish everyone would get of Sean Smith’s back about making catches. The kid is defending passes left and right. He should be highly commended for breaking up the plays PERIOD. He does not need to catch any pass as a defender to do his job effectively. He is in the right place at the right time and he is breaking up play after play. WAY TO GO SEAN SMITH!!! If he does catch one here and there that is 100% a bonus.

I can only imagine if a ball would go off his hands and into the opponents hands for a TD. Please remember against CIN Clemons failed to catch the ball and TO caught it for a TD. If that happened to Smith people would be screaming for him to “knock it down just knock it down!” Lets try to get a clue people.

by labrat3105 on Dec 15, 2010 8:14 AM EST reply actions  

THIS ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ X 1,000,000

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by PhinsTifosi on Dec 15, 2010 8:51 AM EST up reply actions  

This squared!

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by Tunaflipper on Dec 15, 2010 9:08 AM EST up reply actions  

x Pie

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by Fr8Train on Dec 15, 2010 9:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Disagree labrat

I agree with what you said about DBs in general labrat, and i agree that Smith is doing a good job.

That being said, DBs ABSOLUTELY practice catching, because teams place such a high value on takeaways. 1 takeaway can be the difference between a win and a loss, and VERY GOOD DBs make those INTs when the opportunities arise. Smith had 6 good opportunities. It is completely reasonable to expect that he hauls in 1 or 2 of those.

Sparano preaches about the turnover battle all the time. If you think the coach is content for DBs to drop easy INTs, you haven’t been paying attention.

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by LeftCoastFinFan on Dec 15, 2010 12:10 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I have to disagree too

Take the houston – Jax game for example. The Hail Mary at the end of the game. If the Houston defender catches the ball instead of knocking it down they go to overtime. Monday night Bal- Houston game overtime, if the Bal guy knocks it down, schaub gets a third down opportunity to convert and continue the drive. The play to NOT LOSE mentality is to knock it down, The Play to WIN mentality is to intercept the ball, take their offense off the field, and most importantly SHORTEN the field for your offense to score POINTS.

That being said I do agree that smith had one hell of a game and deserves a game ball, six that he could have picked off, and i believe there was another pass over the middle that he deflected away from the receiver.

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by IEphinfan23 on Dec 15, 2010 1:26 PM EST up reply actions  

well said

and i agree that smith had a good game and is getting better.

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by LeftCoastFinFan on Dec 15, 2010 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Didn't Jax win? Doesn't help your arguement.

You should only go for the INT as a defender if you are either alone (bad passes), it is already tipped or you jump the route and it will hit you between the numbers. It is a much better idea to knock it down if you can only get a hand on it.

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by PotM on Dec 15, 2010 5:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I can think of at least 2 times last year where

Smith went for the INT and the WR grabed the ball out of his hands for a completion (if I remember correctly I think one of them even turned into a TD). The kid has played a lot better since being benched earlier in the season.

by Agent J 78 on Dec 15, 2010 9:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Ummm

If you are in the NFL, you are expected to make plays when the situation arises. I’m not one of those people that think he should be making every tough catch (like you said hes not a wr), but come on now, hes dropped some real easy ones. However, I don’t want to hear hes not supposed to catch the ball, if you have a chance to make a play, you go for it.

Then there is the other extreme like Vontae where he is doing his job because the teams are barely throwing at him. But because of that fact, Sean Smith is seeing alot of action and needs to make some of those plays.

Also, its not just sean smith, every db has a case of the butterfingers.

by mms3131 on Dec 15, 2010 11:23 AM EST up reply actions  

BTW, just FYI

Quotes from this story on Sun-Sentinel.com:
Sean Smith is latest member of Dolphins defense to fight the drops
Highly ranked unit has dropped at least 11 potential interceptions

It’s not like these guys don’t work at it. Dolphins defensive backs spend several practice periods each week catching bullet passes from defensive backs coach Todd Bowles as they work on their breaks.

At the end of practice, the JUGS gun awaits to fire more passes at their shaky hands, and there’s never a shortage of DBs to join the receivers for extra work.

And if you think it doesn’t make a difference, remember this?:

And, of course, rookie corner Nolan Carroll dropped that certain pick-six late in the Browns loss.

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by LeftCoastFinFan on Dec 15, 2010 3:13 PM EST up reply actions  

good comment.

Once they start catching it they will be awesome. I think they are getting caught up in the moment and thinking about the return before they catch the ball. They are young. I believe they’ll overcome it when they actually catch a few.

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by 54 on Dec 15, 2010 3:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Playoffs.

If I’m not mistaken if we finish in second in the East at 10-6. and no other team in any division ie Colts, Chargers,Raiders, finish 10-6 and The Jets tank (which they will) there next three games… We are in the playoffs! Colts lose to Jags this week! Jets lose to Pitt. That would give the Colts seven losses. The fish and chargers are 1-2 in the in the hunt category. So… If we finish in 2nd in the East aren’t we assured a Wildcard??? Am I confused? Please someone explain the “Math” to Me!!???

by IAphinlifer on Dec 15, 2010 8:41 AM EST reply actions  

The key is the Bills have to beat the Jets in week 17.......

well they have to lose every game because of tie-breakers, losing both the Steelers and Browns game pretty well eliminates us even if we finish out because of the conference tie-breaker.

by Agent J 78 on Dec 15, 2010 9:13 AM EST up reply actions  

AND we have to win every other game

AND we have to hope for other losses by other teams.

Every division winner goes, regardless of record. So in the AFC South for example, if Houston loses their last 3 games, and Indy only wins the one against Houston, you could have an 8-8 team in the playoffs.

Miami can’t win their division. The Pats have a playoff spot (div or WC) locked up at 11-5 worst case right now. The Jets could still win the division with 3 straight wins and 3 straight Pats losses. Not likely. So you have 4 division winners, and Miami fight for one of two WC spots.

Of the teams not leading their divisions, the Jets and Ravens are 9-4. If it ended today, they would get the WC slots. In order to win on record, the Jets and Ravens would have to drop the last three games, and Miami would have to win the last 3. If Miami ties the Ravens, they lose the tiebreaker on head to head. If Miami ties the Jets in W-L record, they split on head-to-head, and Miami would need to beat all three opponents and have the Jets lose to Buffalo in order to win the division record tiebreaker.

I think…. =)

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by LeftCoastFinFan on Dec 15, 2010 12:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Defense GREAT, Offense, PITIFUL and PATHETIC

This team has the LOWEST scoring OFFENSE in the AFC and 2nd WORST IN THE NFL!! There is no way to put a positive spin on that!

IMHO, Henne and Henning both suck and have to go! I have seen NOTHING to make me believe Henne is the QB for the future! You can say BS like injuries, coaching etc. However, the game moves too fast for him and he is clearly worse than last year. He can make only one throw well which is the up the middle of the field. Outside of that, I find him inaccurate, a poor decision maker and incapable of getting to the next level!

The defensive line has had its share of injuries as well. Yet it has played well!

by davebuc on Dec 15, 2010 8:47 AM EST reply actions  

I think changes need to be made.

But we have to start at the offensive coordinator position, Think we we draft a QB either 1st or 2nd round. Fire Dan Henning, and let the two Qbs battle it out in the off season. If Henne wins out and has an abysmal season, then I think we part ways with him. It’s just too hard finding a good QB in todays league, and it would be foolish to give up on Henne without making a few adjustments to the offense.

by glass_jaw on Dec 15, 2010 9:13 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

First we have no 2nd unless we trade down

and second we don’t need another 2nd round QB. Either a developmental one in the later rounds or a 1st round prospect. I know he is dropping down draft boards but I like the Locker kid. He isn’t a surefire like Luck but he still has tremendous upside.

by Agent J 78 on Dec 15, 2010 9:17 AM EST up reply actions  

Forgot about the Marshall trade.

I still think you can find a good QB in the second round. I agree though we should draft a qb just in case Henne doesn’t. Worst case scenario Henne does pan out, and we have a pretty good back up.

by glass_jaw on Dec 15, 2010 9:36 AM EST up reply actions  

man im sick of hearing about drafting a QB in the first round

Look at last years draft,3 of the QB’s taken in the third round are playing well,if you ask me,we should have gone for Colt Brennan. You end up with a QB that plays with a chip on his shoulder,and the proof is in the pudding. He is not only a gamer,but with the experience and repoire he has with Bess,would already have a sembelance of continuity without even have thown a pass to the other recievers.

Brady was a sixth round pick,outside of Ryan,Tampa bays QB,Flacco,and a couple of others,well,put it this way,Kolb was a fourth rounder….

Bottom line,we should be picking BPA every pick,a lot of these so called highly touted first round QB’s are just reaches imo. Outside of Luck,there really is no game changing QB to be had in the first round.

Look,I want better QB play as much as the next guy,but we won’t get it just reaching and picking a guy because he’s there for the picking.

Here’s an idea,go with that guy from Dallas,give Henne another year behind a veteran,he’s playing well,and icing on the cake,if we get a decent offensive coordinator and QB’s coach,eve Henne might take us to the post season.

Sorry for the rant,but tbh,with the same offensive coaching staff in place,they are going to drill the safe approach to the next guy,and well be picking and ruining QBs in the first round for the next 10 years

by dolphinfan4lyfe on Dec 15, 2010 9:42 AM EST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

picking a QB in the late rounds

Is a luxury you have when you already have a starting KB. For example Mcnab on the Eagles and Bletso on the Patriots. There is no urgency to get it right because well he proabably won’t play for a few years anyway.

We unfortunately do not have a great QB; we’re trying to get one. So our best bet is either reach up and get one or find one in free agency. Lastly, we could just wait and pick up an old veteran to carry us through to next year. Maybe Henne and some OK veteran can limp us through next year.

by sdelinois on Dec 15, 2010 9:53 AM EST up reply actions  

There are some Value Qbs at later rounds.

Tom Brady, Marc Bulger, Drew Brees, Tim Rattay,, Dennis Dixion, Drew Stanton, Troy Smith. I just think we need to draft a QB i case Henne does not pan out. I’m all for him starting next year. We just need options, that.s all.

by glass_jaw on Dec 15, 2010 10:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Kolb

Actually man, Kevin Kolb was a 2nd Rounder. He was picked 4 spots above John Beck (remember him?). I agree with the spirit of your post though, there’s no sense wasting a 1st rounder a QB, this team needs a solid Pass-Catching TE, an above average C, and young RB. I’d be happy picking up one of those positions (if possible) in the 1st. I think that you wait until the 3rd or 4th to go after a QB (someone like Ponder-FSU, Stanzi-Iowa, or Kaepernick-Nevada) or sign a young, cheap QB with some upside like Tarvaris Jackson. The point is, there are some big needs on this team and I’d rather fill them, get rid of Henning, get a young guy to push Henne (I don’t think that’s Thigpen) and see what happens.

by RandomR on Dec 15, 2010 10:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Staazi or Ponders would be good.

I’m kind of big on Kirk Cousins I think he would play good mistake free football. I’ll be watching him against bama.

by glass_jaw on Dec 15, 2010 10:13 AM EST up reply actions  

FREE HENNE.... FIRE OLD MAN HENNING

MY DREAM IS ALMOST COMPLETE. IF WE GET JOSH MCDANIELS CHAD HENNE WILL BECOME ELITE. JOSH MADE CASSEL AND ORTON LOOK LIKE MARINO. IMAGINE WHAT HE WILL DO WITH HENNE!!!!!! GO GET HIM ROSS!!!!! GET JOSH MCDANIELS NOW!!!!!!!!!!!

by ceo86 on Dec 15, 2010 2:16 PM EST up reply actions  

NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!! NOT MCDANIELS!! =)

he may be okay as an O-coord, but he is terrible for team chemistry and rubs everyone the wrong way. Belichick might have been strong enough to keep him in line, but i don’t think Sparano would be….

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by LeftCoastFinFan on Dec 15, 2010 2:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Offensive Coordinator is Offensive.

Tom Brady and Bill Belicheck could make me look good. Only OC out of that team that is worth his weight is Charlie Weiss. I think he was the real deal.

by glass_jaw on Dec 15, 2010 2:44 PM EST up reply actions  

We are going to end up winning 8 or 9 games (which is an improvement from last year) and did that while not having a good quarterback. In this league, if you don’t have a good quarterback, you can easily go 4-12 or worse, despite how good the rest of your team is. And the rest of our team is only decent. The defense is superb, but the offense is a train wreck. Our running game vanished, and the player we got to improve the passing game (Marshall) has been a disappointment (so far). Yes, I would agree this isn’t a bad season and we didn’t underachieve.

by tedhill on Dec 15, 2010 8:56 AM EST reply actions  

Good stuff Lefty

your about to leapfrog Matty and Maguss with strong posts like this!

by ADRIELSDAD on Dec 15, 2010 9:18 AM EST reply actions  

Love this Lefty!
Let me ’splain…. No, there is too much… let me sum up:

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by Fr8Train on Dec 15, 2010 9:18 AM EST reply actions  

If your next post is about a land war in asia....I'm all in.

"The People's Poster"
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by Fr8Train on Dec 15, 2010 9:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Yep, Lefty's a fan of "The Princess Bride" A classic comedy

My name is Inigo Montoya, You killed my father, prepare to Die!

oh yeah BTW, Excellent insights Lefty..

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by Pianomanzz on Dec 15, 2010 9:38 AM EST up reply actions  

LOL

i put that in there for Fr8 =)

thx man!

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by LeftCoastFinFan on Dec 15, 2010 12:37 PM EST up reply actions  

No you didn't? LOL

I should be so honored :)

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by Fr8Train on Dec 15, 2010 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

careful, some teenager in diapers may think it's a chick flick

"The first thing I do when I get out of bed and feel the jolt in my knees is think of Roy Winston. On the second step, my calcified Adam's apple starts bobbing, and I think of Carl Eller. A few more steps in the dark and it's Willie Lanier. By the time I get to the bathroom, I'm flashing back to Dick Butkus and Ray Nitschke. And when the light finally comes on, I just hope that somewhere in the darkness they're thinking of me, too" - Larry Csonka.
He played before my time but one of the toughest SOBs to ever play!

by Strange on Dec 15, 2010 3:16 PM EST up reply actions  

or PoTM

;^)

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by LeftCoastFinFan on Dec 15, 2010 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Wait, Pot is a chick?

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by texascowpunk on Dec 15, 2010 3:45 PM EST up reply actions  

dunno, but he

(or she) don’t get TPB
;^)

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by LeftCoastFinFan on Dec 15, 2010 3:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Never seen it myself.

"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
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by texascowpunk on Dec 15, 2010 5:07 PM EST up reply actions  

WHAT?!?!?

TEX, its a cult classic….
If you enjoy Hot Shots, Naked Gun, Airplane, Real Genius (CLASSIC), Monty Python….

Then you need to watch the Princess Bride.

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by Fr8Train on Dec 15, 2010 5:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I do enjoy those. Especially anything by Monty Python.

"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
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by texascowpunk on Dec 15, 2010 5:22 PM EST up reply actions  

TPB? :)

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by Fr8Train on Dec 15, 2010 5:40 PM EST up reply actions  

dyslexic alzheimer's

?Tahw

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by LeftCoastFinFan on Dec 15, 2010 5:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Losing wrinkles? :)

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by Fr8Train on Dec 15, 2010 5:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I have game pics of last Sunday's game. how do I put them up.

Its Jville vs Oak. Good game tho’. Oh yeah I met branter from the Phinsider.

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Get well soon Chads.
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by Stats407 on Dec 15, 2010 10:43 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Can someone explain...

Why Sparano takes heat for Hennings offense but not credit for Nolan’s Defense?

by christiandolfan on Dec 15, 2010 11:03 AM EST reply actions  

I think it's because he's supposed to fix what's broken

and not touch what isn’t?

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by Tunaflipper on Dec 15, 2010 11:11 AM EST up reply actions  

Good point..

But the major thing is the defense has drastically improved this year from last, while the only change in coaching staff was Nolan. I believe that the credit of offense and defense blunders and shine should go on the coordinators. Therefore I’m all for putting 150% of the offensive blame on Henning.

by Kellenman08 on Dec 15, 2010 12:40 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

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by LeftCoastFinFan on Dec 15, 2010 12:43 PM EST up reply actions  

One of my favorite coaching quotes of all time! It is a shame that more Head Coaches don't follow this philosophy.

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by ct1361 on Dec 15, 2010 3:29 PM EST up reply actions  

agreed

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by LeftCoastFinFan on Dec 15, 2010 3:38 PM EST up reply actions  

recd & im not disappointed Lefty

I am a realist when it comes to my Dolphins. Why am I not dissapointed? Well, I thought at the beging of the season, with all of the youth, the recent signing of Dansby & aquiring Marshall, we would see what we had in Chad Henne and Mike Nolans D. I am not happy that we arent making a run, but I thought we would be around the 8-8 9-7 mark at the end of the year, and 8-8 is one game better than last year, even though I think the Pitt game was “tanked” a little last year for maybe better draft, but thats just what I personally think. I do think that we are getting set for the future on D, have some nice offensive players for the future, if we get a QB that can make most of the good throws, a speedy back, an improved O-Line, I think our young team will only get stronger! I personally do not think Henne will be the man next year, but I am not football guru. He could fix a lot fo stuff and could very well be, if not, I have already seen what he has done the last two years so im sure we can find someone. & im not a “Henne Hater” to “hate” you have to ENVY (thats what the real term hater comes from) & I do not envy his QB play at all. I support him as he is a Miami Dolphin, and I really hope he gets it fixed, if not, I am honestly used to the QB musical chairs that I have seen with “The Curse Of Marino”, great write up, very good read on this very, very cold Virginia morning. 13 degrees, unusual and breaking records for coldness.

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by E_Dove on Dec 15, 2010 11:11 AM EST reply actions  

me too. =)

but when a team doesn’t solely control it destiny through its own efforts, it gets a little too stressful to figure it all out every week.

If we still have a chance in two weeks, i will be more excited, i promise. ;^)

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by LeftCoastFinFan on Dec 15, 2010 12:46 PM EST up reply actions  

My mind gets all buggly when I think of the playoff chance

and then you guys spell out the scenario’s.

Same with the draft when we’re so far from it…

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by Tunaflipper on Dec 15, 2010 12:49 PM EST up reply actions  

"If we still have a chance in two weeks, i will be more excited, i promise"

I subscribe to this philosophy in situations like these

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by Strange on Dec 15, 2010 3:19 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm disappointed

I expected the defense top become great. (check)

I expected the offense to be grinding solid with the ability to score points. (Fail)

We only need an average offense to be going places.

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by 54 on Dec 15, 2010 12:18 PM EST reply actions  

i still say it goes back to the O-line.

if they just left it intact, and added Incognito and Jerry, we would have a run game and depth. IMO

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by LeftCoastFinFan on Dec 15, 2010 12:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I swear, the more I ponder

the more I think the O got sold out in the draft. on purpose.
Parcell’s has always been of the big D smashmouth mentality. So that’s what they did.
I realized and saw the writing on the O and bailed.
Leaving us to year 4 of the 3 year rebuilding plan.

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by Tunaflipper on Dec 15, 2010 12:48 PM EST up reply actions  

i love smashmouth

but when you look at the O, you can’t just say, you are fine, they way that you are. At some point, you need some star players.. not all stars, but some. Let’s face it, as the dusk sets on this season, we have a few holes to fill. But when the morning comes, I think we are not that far away.

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by LeftCoastFinFan on Dec 15, 2010 12:54 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I agree

and I think that was this years preseason mentality

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by Tunaflipper on Dec 15, 2010 12:55 PM EST up reply actions  

sigh

no one? really?

smashmouth lyrics, the way that you are, all star, when (then) the morning comes….. :)

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by LeftCoastFinFan on Dec 15, 2010 4:06 PM EST up reply actions  

Smashmouth.....oh boy.

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by Fr8Train on Dec 15, 2010 4:45 PM EST up reply actions  

A lots on the O-line

But Henne and Henning also play a big role. It’s a lose lose lose situation. There’s nothing to lean on but the D. I’m just saying I’m disappointing in them. There’s no way I thought they would be a complete failure this offseason.

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by 54 on Dec 15, 2010 1:15 PM EST up reply actions  

It's not the O-Line's fault for lack of production. It is on the skill position players, especially the QB.

The OL is good enough to win games and be productive on offense. Yeah they aren’t a dominant run blocking unit, but they pass protect real well. The OL is as good or better as some of the dominant teams in the NFL this year: GB, Phi, NYG, SD, NE, Pit, KC, Chi.

This team is seriously lacking in speed and skill on offense. You can make the argument that if the Phins were better running the ball and a defense had to put 8 men in the box, it would open up the passing game. Examples are NYJ, KC.

But you could also make the argument that if the Phins were better in the passing game and the defense committed more players to stop the pass, it would open up the running game. Examples are Phi, NE, etc.

If you gave the Phins OL to any of those teams that I listed above would they be any worse on offense? I don’t think so. They would be just as productive because their skill position players are better than the Phins.

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by ct1361 on Dec 15, 2010 3:39 PM EST up reply actions  

But our pass game would have suffered.

That is why Thomas is no longer on the team. He couldn’t pass block. Grove and Smiley couldn’t stay healthy and they struggled in protecting the passer.

What I was trying to point out is that the OL is good enough to win. Could it be better? Absolutely. But a great OL doesn’t guarantee anything. Even if the Phins had that great OL, they would only be marginally better because of their serious lack of skill position players.

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by ct1361 on Dec 15, 2010 4:05 PM EST up reply actions  

our pass game would have benefitted from a strong running game.

but when you don’t have a strong passing game anyhow, run first.

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by LeftCoastFinFan on Dec 15, 2010 4:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed. But the Phins have neither. And I am not sure that the lack of running game is all the OL's fault.

Ronnie and Ricky look slow. There is no 2nd TE. There is no deep threat to remove a safety. The OL isn’t dominant, but they sure aren’t getting any help either.

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by ct1361 on Dec 15, 2010 4:11 PM EST up reply actions  

i'm not sure either

but here is what I suspect:

Grove is a better run blocker than Berger. In an uncapped season, they could have let him stick around for a while instead of cutting him loose before the season.

Smiley was the best pulling guard we had. He was a key component of the WC. Hindsight being what it is, his injury problem persisted, but I would have kept him also.

Continuity for an O-line is pretty important. You can work around it, but the best O-lines have played together for a while. What Sparano did in the offseason with all the position juggling set the O-line development back. They would have been better to keep as many parts intact going into the season, and maybe focus on filling the RG spot with Incognito. This would have produced a better interior running game this season.

Agree about the TEs and deep threat.

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by LeftCoastFinFan on Dec 15, 2010 4:18 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree that Grove and Smiley are probably better than Berger and Jerry right now (Incognito is a better RG than LG).

But the uncapped season worked against Grove and Smiley. It didn’t cost the Phins anything against the cap to cut them.

I think that this FO didn’t want to keep them because of injuries but would have had too if cutting them meant too big of cap hit. So without the cap, they became expendable.

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by ct1361 on Dec 15, 2010 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Found this on topic article on the SS

Tony Sparano says Dolphins needs to run ball better

Coach Tony Sparano’s clearly had enough of Chad Henne taking all the heat for how disappointing the offense has performed in 2010.

"We need to take pressure off the quarterback by running the ball better," Sparano said. "We have to do a better job by running the ball better.

He does have a point considering the Dolphins are ranked 28th in yards per carry, and 20th in rushing yards (106.2) per game. A year ago the Dolphins were one of four teams that rushed for over 2,000 yards.
Sparano FINALLY admitted he’s uncomfortable with the second-level blocking of his offensive line, the same offensive line he and the rest of the Trifecta decided to rebuild this offseason despite the 4.4 yards per carry average the unit that featured Donald Thomas, Jake Grove and Justin Smiley produced.

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by LeftCoastFinFan on Dec 15, 2010 7:04 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Yeah thats a big no shit.

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by texascowpunk on Dec 15, 2010 7:13 PM EST up reply actions  

lol

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by LeftCoastFinFan on Dec 15, 2010 7:51 PM EST up reply actions  

Rookie Gs tend to be inconsistent in pass blocking.

And there is one fatal flaw to this thinking. Everything starts at the line.

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by PotM on Dec 15, 2010 5:37 PM EST up reply actions  

LeftCoastFinFan may I say one thing ..

I really enjoy your posts, they really put a nice spin on things here at “the phinsider”
But when you write an article can you not include all the 3rd person parenthesis comments, as much as you do.(The stuff inside these boxes).. Its like there is 2 different conversations going on and really interrupts the flow of what is a great editorial, I like your opinion pieces but I really think you can do without all that (other stuff)…Hope you dont take it personal and keep up the great post!

by PresClintonius on Dec 15, 2010 12:54 PM EST reply actions  

i appreciate the feedback.

i think i did that a little more this post because the past few weeks there has been less to actually discuss in plain football x’s and o’s. I have harped on the weak points enough and we all know what the team is doing right and wrong every week, and what needs to be fixed.

It was intended to break things up a bit. =) I’ll tone it down a bit.

thanks man!

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by LeftCoastFinFan on Dec 15, 2010 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

thats true.

But, sometimes it’s needed from the blog world.

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by 54 on Dec 15, 2010 3:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Welcome to Lefty's world
like there is 2 different conversations going on

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by Tunaflipper on Dec 15, 2010 12:56 PM EST reply actions  

That's what I'm saying.

My Dad invented Mars.
I’m going back after Christmas.

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by Tunaflipper on Dec 15, 2010 1:03 PM EST up reply actions  

But I was.

Will some please pull this hook, line & sinker out of my lip!?

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by Tunaflipper on Dec 15, 2010 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

=)

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by LeftCoastFinFan on Dec 15, 2010 2:23 PM EST up reply actions  

So what you guys think about the new info about Sal Alosi's ?

That he ordered the wall. He’s now suspended indefinitely.

Do you think he got the ordered from a hire upper to make the wall? Special team coach? Rex Ryan? Is the wall legal? or do they have to get out the way of a player forced out of bounds?

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by 54 on Dec 15, 2010 4:16 PM EST reply actions  

i think Florio actually broke this idea first

but it seemed pretty obvious that it was not random. That being said, Alosi might have done it, but he is also taking the fall to deflect scrutiny from the rest of the coaches – but there is NO WAY that the other coaches didn’t “notice” what he was doing and tacitly approve by not saying anything.

IMO

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by LeftCoastFinFan on Dec 15, 2010 4:21 PM EST up reply actions  

true

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Rusty Smith! (Titans future qb)

by 54 on Dec 15, 2010 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly. One way or another not only should he be popped for this but also all the players

that went along with it and the team as a whole should be fined. Ultimately the blame falls on Rex as this is something that was being organized and either he knew and looked the other way/endorsed it or he should have known as it is HIS team and thus his responsibility.

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by texascowpunk on Dec 15, 2010 5:10 PM EST up reply actions  

A strength and conditioning coach wouldn't do that on his own. This came from Rex Ryan, no doubt in my mind.

Like Josh McDaniels not knowing that someone filmed the 49ers walk through in London. It’s BS. Neither a film guy or a strength coach would do anything like that on their own initiative.

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by ct1361 on Dec 15, 2010 4:28 PM EST up reply actions  

as a HC, admitting that you have no control over your subordinates while unethical actions are taking place

on “team time” is almost as bad as admitting you were involved.

IMO

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by LeftCoastFinFan on Dec 15, 2010 4:43 PM EST up reply actions  

True. Like I said either he knew or should have know. Either way he is at fault.

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by texascowpunk on Dec 15, 2010 5:15 PM EST up reply actions  

It all comes back to the Head Coach. Ryan is as much at fault for this as Alosi.

Even though I am sure that Ryan never said trip a player or stick your knee out. But I bet Ryan did say try to get in the way if possible.

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by ct1361 on Dec 15, 2010 5:26 PM EST up reply actions  

agree

I think it came from an higher upper. Like lefty said there’s no way the other coaches didn’t notice it.

Now whats even worse a trip may have been ordered to. Maybe indirectly.

Scenario how i see it likely went.
“Here’s the deal guys. Where going to stand here on the sideline to impeded the gunner. Make yourself as big as possible when he runs by so he has to adjust. It will slow him down. Just keep your feet off the chalk” —Mastermind

So Carroll comes running by and Alosi made himself big as possible by stretching his knee out. The classless “poop” for brains didn’t think it through. Now he’s enemy number 1 and a scape goat. Unless somehow he did actually organize it. Which is unlikely in my book.

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by 54 on Dec 15, 2010 4:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Even if he did "organize" it take more than one to preform it so.................

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by texascowpunk on Dec 15, 2010 5:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Just found out

The wall is legal.

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Andrew Luck or Ryan Mallett 1st Round. Make it Happen. No excuses.
Rusty Smith! (Titans future qb)

by 54 on Dec 15, 2010 5:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Along the sideline like that?

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by texascowpunk on Dec 15, 2010 5:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea. The league had no problem with it

Only the tripping part.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d81ced5ae/article/jets-suspend-alosi-indefinitely-for-telling-players-to-form-wall?module=HP_headlines

The first video. They said they aren’t going to investigate the wall because there’s nothing wrong with it.

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Andrew Luck or Ryan Mallett 1st Round. Make it Happen. No excuses.
Rusty Smith! (Titans future qb)

by 54 on Dec 15, 2010 5:25 PM EST up reply actions  

So that being said.

 While i thought the coach should of been fired in the first place. His penalty shouldn’t be increased if they felt the fine and suspension was enough in the first place. It’s just a PR move now.

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Andrew Luck or Ryan Mallett 1st Round. Make it Happen. No excuses.
Rusty Smith! (Titans future qb)

by 54 on Dec 15, 2010 5:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Well maybe the league should change the rule because lining up like

that to intentionally build a wall can lead to other issues.

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by texascowpunk on Dec 15, 2010 5:32 PM EST up reply actions  

The Wall in itself is legal, as its out of bounds...

I assume the intention is that it will impede a gunner that gets blocked out of bounds into the wall from getting back into the play as easily.

Westhoff has now implicated the Patriots as doing the same thing….My guess is there are a lot of teams that do it (maybe even us?)

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by Fr8Train on Dec 15, 2010 5:41 PM EST up reply actions  

why not us?

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by LeftCoastFinFan on Dec 15, 2010 5:45 PM EST up reply actions  

My thinking is, the Dolphins never pressed the issue...at all.

Maybe its because we line players up the same way on punts? (anyone got games DVR’d to check?)

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by Fr8Train on Dec 15, 2010 5:48 PM EST up reply actions  

please, like we need to be scrwing with our punt coverages

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by PotM on Dec 15, 2010 5:53 PM EST up reply actions  

No, I'm thinking we probably ALREADY do it.

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by Fr8Train on Dec 15, 2010 9:54 PM EST up reply actions  

The line changes the incident

The Jets claimed it was a lone employee acting on a split second impulse. But if he assembled the line first then he was thinking about it for minutes. And the guys on the line had to see his position yet nobody pulled him back. Were they in on the plan? Were the players who pushed him out of bounds part of the plan? They should definitely investigate because if there was more than one person involved Ryan pretty much had to know. If Ryan knew he should be fired.

by student1776 on Dec 15, 2010 5:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Ryan will only be fired if the Jets fall apart for two seasons in a row.

that seems to the the F.O. mentality there.

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by LeftCoastFinFan on Dec 15, 2010 5:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I bet that if you looked at past Jets games you would see the same type of thing from guys on the sideline.

I never noticed it before from any team, but then I wasn’t looking for it either. I wonder if the Dolphins do the same thing?

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by ct1361 on Dec 15, 2010 5:21 PM EST up reply actions  

We might do the wall, but I doubt we trip or otherwise try to injure players.

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by PotM on Dec 15, 2010 5:54 PM EST up reply actions  

Well I don't think he meant it that way :)

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by Fr8Train on Dec 15, 2010 9:54 PM EST up reply actions  

You remember Clifford Franklin? and that gooey stuff they smeared all over his hands? If I’m Sparano, I am slopping up his hands with that stuff and putting him on the jugs machine for 2 hrs a day this week!)

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