Vincent Jackson, an Elite WR?
Hey everyone. I wanted to talk about Vincent Jackson... A WR for the San Diego Chargers. As you know, Vincent Jackson has not played this year because of a contract dispute and his desire to be paid like a top 5 NFL WR. Over my time on this site I encountered people that just rave about him and his abilities so I come here now in this post to ask you.
How good was / is Vincent Jackson really?
Does it look like the San Diego Chargers are missing Vincent Jackson? I mean, Phillip Rivers is throwing for 400 yards a game, Antonio Gates is the best TE in the NFL and it seems like Malcolm Floyd has 200 yards every week. So is Vincent Jackson still elite? I always said he was the beneficiary of an offense. Anyone believe me now?
If anything, Vincent Jackson has lost all leverage in his contract demands. The Chargers proved that Vincent Jackson did not make the San Diego Chargers, the San Diego Chargers made him.
A Top 10 NFL WR? A Top 20 NFL WR? I think not, more like a top 5 bonehead for holding out and demanding money that he didn't deserve in the first place.
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he's defintely not
Antonio Gates is the top dog on the Chargers and as long as he’s playing the Chargers passing game will be fine
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
The rest of the reciver's on that (team) just seam to comp. him huh?
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by wild zion beaver on Oct 14, 2010 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions
He's the product of being a number 1 in a passing offense
Look what Malcolm floyd is doing very good stats. VJ is a good receiver but his stats are inflated for being in a passing offense
I always though he was a good WR but not elite
But he is a number 1 WR, the only WR’s in the NFL i would put ahead of him are Marshall, andre johnson, Fitzgerald, Moss, wayne, Austin, desean jackson, calvin johnson, roddy white, so i would say he is around #11.
He is not top 5
but he’s not as overrated as you make it seem.
Malcom Floyd is a very talented receiver, he’s not a scrub you can just plug into a system.
@Dolphins21MZ I’d put Greg Jennings(the GJ of last year), Steve Smith, and Anquan Boldin ahead of him as well.
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by Davone_Is_BessT on Oct 14, 2010 7:55 PM EDT reply actions
greg jennings sucked last year and steve smith is a shadow of himself
by CaliPhinsFan on Oct 14, 2010 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions
Smith is still in top 10, no qb will make you look shabby. Man can work behind the LOS,
slant, flats, and long. Out of all the receivers, Marshall and Smith can work the whole field and get physical, while doing so.
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by fin4three5yrs on Oct 15, 2010 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions
6'5' 230 lbs
68 catches 1178yds 9tds 17.2yds per reception
Not to shabby!
I would take him over Jennings, Smith and Boldin
He would look really nice in Aqua and Orange along side BM
Just sayin.
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yes he is
a top receiver…
i’m just not sure you can afford what he wants for a contract…
CLS??? CLS??? are you serious, I lived through Wanny, Saban, and Cam...and I know when the sky is falling.
Yes he is a good WR, but he is not Ellite and not worth that kind of money but the Oakland will pay him!
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OMG....Is it not enough that you spew this crap on every thread?
You had to go an make a whole new Fan Post about it?
Vincent Jackson, is absolutely, unequivocally one of the top 10 WR’s in the league. Probably in the 5-7 Range.
For whoever said he’s a “product of the System”, just stop. Thats the most absurd argument in all of Sports. Why? Every player, at every position IS A PRODUCT OF THE SYSTEM. DAN MARINO was a product of the system. JERRY RICE, product of the system. Put them on different teams, different schemes, and who knows what you get. So lets not use absurd arguments here.
Here is what we know. Everyone accepts that Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, Larry FItzgerald, and others are great Wide Receivers. Is it altered by the fact that they have future HoF QB’s that threw them the ball? Not at all. So why should that influence Jackson? It shouldn’t.
Vincent Jackson faced constant Double Teams (yes, even with Gates on the field), yet he continued to produce at a ridiculously high level for a player with his time in the league. He’s a physical receiver, who will go up and fight for the ball. He’s a player who runs clean routes, catches and secures with his hands, and he without question makes plays. There isn’t a team in the league that wouldn’t get instantly better with Jackson on their roster.
Now, since I know you are going to bring up “Why doesn’t SD pay him then?” Good question. The same team that fired a Head Coach after a 12-4 season. The same team that traded away last years Super Bowl winning QB for peanuts. Really? You have trouble recognizing a front office that consistently makes bad choices?
Gates is not the focal point of that offense. He thrives however, because he’s a player that is mismatched against any Line backer in the league, yet teams still put LBs to cover him, because they would rather double the Wide Outs like VJack who has averaged 17.2 yards per reception over a 5 year span…. thats impressive.
He is absolutely an Elite Wide Receiver, and anyone who actually watches him play would know this. He’s not worth Marshall money because he’s sitting on a suspension, and an infraction away from an 8 game or more suspension….. but his off the field issues doesn’t take away that he’s still a top flight WR.
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by Fr8Train on Oct 14, 2010 11:32 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Where you been dude?
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by texascowpunk on Oct 14, 2010 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll shoot you an email tomorrow....
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Got it and replied.
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by texascowpunk on Oct 16, 2010 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Damn straight freight.
He is beast 1B behind Marshall’s 1A.
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I wonder how he would do outside the AFCW
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Don't forget
Marshall played in the AFCW too, so if you discount Vjax’s stats because of the division he played in then the same knock can be had for Marshall’s stats.
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Well, ofcourse. But you have to look at what he does against some of the better teams
he is on track for
108 catches. (has 27)
1360 yards (has 340)
average 12.7
4 TDs (has 1)
0 FUM
This was against three very good team, with the best game coming against NYJ
If you take away the BUF game where he had 6.6 YPC, his YPc sky rockets.
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Oh, no doubt. Marshall is killer.
Just saying that I think Vincent Jackson is a really good receiver too. Brandon Marshall put up huge numbers against the AFC West just like Vincent Jackson has put up awesome numbers against the same division. Brandon’s success has translated well and I think Vincent Jackson’s will also translate.
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I don't have game logs, but doing well in the AFC W isn't saying much if you don't do so hot
when you go against other teams outside the division, because the AFC W hasn’t been competitive in a while, this is why the Chargers always got to the playoffs, but never went anywhere.
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It's the NFL
Even though competition isn’t the best in the AFC West, I don’t think it matters what division he plays in because there are 10 other teams on the schedule that he balls on year in and year out…
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the difference
between all those big names is they proved it..and stayed at it longer, i really do feel after seeing M.Floyd this year, that its more of P.Rivers thats more or less the top 5 QB in the NFL, hes elite and can make ted ginn look good
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So, then Marvin Harrison and Reggie Wayne
are a product of Peyton Manning? Clearly since Garcon and Collie can produce?
Its a flawed argument.
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I'm shocked DRoyce
it’s been about month since you told us how much he sucks and I was starting to think you had looked at his career stats and/or game film but I see you still haven’t.
by haildanhenningnow on Oct 15, 2010 5:10 AM EDT reply actions
regardless of who good or great he is.. the contract issue and attitude is a problem..
otherwise, I’d love to have him here! It’s the one thing I just can’t forget and stop thinking about since the pre-season; having that solid, high-end #2 receiver alongside Marshall… My God, to only think what this offense would look like if defenses had to try and match TWO big time receivers! Marshall not being doubled … wow.. Thats the #1 thing I want for next season is another big time receiver because that will make a huge difference for this passing attack.. HUGE! Is Vincent Jackson the answer? Doubt it.. would I take him here? Sure! but just get someone…get another high end WR …PLEASE! they wont regret it!
by dolphinsfan4life on Oct 15, 2010 8:28 PM EDT reply actions
Never meant to make your agent cry, hard to trade you with 2 DUIs
sorry vince jackson…
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