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Some positives despite a disappointing finish to season

No matter how good or bad a season was, it always seems like us fans all go right to the "needs" of their team as soon as their season comes to an end. This year is no different. And with the way this season ended - with the Dolphins losing their last three games to keep themselves from the postseason - it makes sense to instantly turn our attention to how this team can get better for the 2010 season and beyond.

But I'd like to quickly talk about some of the positives that came out of the '09 season. And note - these aren't all of the positives. But in my opinion, these positives listed below are some of the most important ones.

Henne might just be the answer
Not since the rookie season of "you know who" have the Dolphins had a young quarterback make his first career starts in Miami and play as well as Chad Henne did in 2009. Were there bumps along the way? Of course. But that's just the maturation process of any young quarterback. Anyone remember Peyton Manning's rookie season, for example? Or that of Drew Brees? Most, if not all, young quarterbacks experience some turbulence as they progress. But you have to like what you have seen out of Henne so far.

His arm strength has come as advertised. He's shown the ability to roll out and throw on the run with accuracy. He's stood tough in the pocket even when under pressure. He has started taking control of the huddle and recognizing that he needs to be the leader on the field. He's already engineered three 4th quarter comebacks. And most importantly, there hasn't been one time where the game or the moment has seemed to big for him.

His numbers aren't outstanding by any means. But he did average 214 yards in 13 games as a starter - including three 300+ yard games in his last five. And while he only completed 60.8% of his passes - which itself is not too bad for a first year starter - he completed 67% of his passes in his final four games. His best game, though, probably came back in week 5 on Monday Night Football, throwing for 241 yards, 2 touchdowns, and no interceptions en route to a four point win over the Jets.

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He has a lot of room for improvement, of course. He still has a tendency of locking onto his primary receiver. He has thrown too many interceptions. And he still needs to get better on making those "touch passes" that present themselves during the course of a game. But still - Henne is well on his way towards becoming the long-term answer at quarterback.

It is worth noting, though, that head coach Tony Sparano did not commit to Henne as the 2010 starter like Sparano did at this time last season with Chad Pennington. Not that Sparano isn't happy with Henne's progress, saying, "I am really pleased with what Chad did, I really am. This guy, he is a pretty curious guy. He likes to get better at the things he is not good at … I really like what I have seen in Chad right now."

The offensive line has a serious stud and some serious depth
Let me start off by saying that outside of a rough opening game, Jake Long was exceptional for most of the season. I still stand by the decision to take the monster left tackle over Matt Ryan a couple years back.

But what was even more impressive this year was just how deep Miami's offensive line suddenly is. Justin Smiley and Donald Thomas both had their ups and down - more ups than downs. But their health and their struggles (at times) gave this staff a chance to see what Nate Garner could do as a starter. He didn't disappoint. Garner was effective for most of the season and even played four different positions along the line at different times. He has spent time at both guard positions, center, and even a few snaps at right tackle when Vernon Carey went down for a series against the Panthers.

Speaking of Carey, Vernon battled through some injuries late in the season that clearly hindered his ability. But he was a beast for about three-fourths of the year - even prompting Peter King to list Carey as his All-Pro pick at right tackle.

Then there's Jake Grove and Joe Berger. Grove proved to be an excellent addition to this team - when he was healthy enough to play. Unfortunately, his tendency to get hurt came back to haunt Grove - suffering a high ankle sprain that limited him for most of the second half of the season. But Berger stepped right in and filled in admirably.

You can't help but be excited for this offensive line - a line that easily rolls seven players deep.

Rookie corners can play
Like any rookie corner, both Vontae Davis and Sean Smith had their ups and downs. But there were more ups than downs for these two - leaving us all with a lot to look forward to as these two progress.

Vontae was the "big play" corner. He led the team with four interceptions - including two picks of Tom Brady while covering Randy Moss. Of course, he also gave up a few big plays - either via penalty or by getting burnt.

Sean Smith, meanwhile, didn't intercept one pass in 2009. But he became the first rookie corner to start every game in franchise history. And he might have just been the better cover corner of the two rookies. He got beat far less than Davis did. And the fact is teams were willing to throw to Will Allen's side (before he got hurt) and to Vontae's side before throwing at Smith. Did Smith wear down and hit the rookie wall? Maybe a little. But I'm going to have more on these two rookie corners either later this week or early next week and you'll see that both of these guys give us reasons to be excited about their futures.

Polite doesn't stay true to his name
If you are a Dolphins fan, then it's impossible for you not to love Lousaka Polite. Not only is he a short yardage monster - converting 17 of 18 3rd or 4th and 2 or fewer yards to go - but the man is just a nasty run blocker. He blew up opposing linebackers with ease this season. Polite is probably the most underrated player on this roster. But his respect from the media is starting to come - including Peter King naming Polite to his All Pro team.

His last name is the exact opposite to how he treated opposing defenders. And I couldn't be happier to have this guy on my team.

Some quality complimentary receivers
I still believe this team needs a true #1 receiver to take this offense to the next level. But one thing that isn't needed is a complimentary receiver. The Dolphins are loaded with them.

Davone Bess is simply one hell of a possession receiver. His 76 receptions in 2009 was tied for the fourth most in team history. And he's among the best 3rd down receivers in the entire league. He had 28 3rd down conversion receptions - 2nd most in the league and just one behind the Giants' Steve Smith.

Greg Camarillo returned from a torn ACL to again show that he's "Mr. Reliable" when it comes to catching the football. His 70% catch percentage ranked Camarillo 5th among all AFC wide receivers. And the man didn't drop a single pass all season long.

Brian Hartline, meanwhile, had a solid rookie season. He led the team in yards per reception with 16.3 and in receiving touchdowns with three. He, too, showed reliable hands. But he also showed some toughness and big play ability.

All three of these guys are excellent complimentary receivers and are the kind of receivers great football teams have and bad football teams never have. Now if the Dolphins can just land that top guy, then they'd have a dangerous receiving corps.

Starks is a revelation
I guess Randy Starks just needed to get adjusted to a 3-4 defense. Because his second season as a Dolphin was just outstanding. You can make the case that he was the defensive MVP of this team.

His seven sacks were second on the team. His five tackles for loss were also second. And his 42 solo tackles placed him sixth on the team - an impressive feat for a 3-4 defensive end. It's rare that you find an end in this kind of defense that has the kind of impact Starks had in 2009. And he just turned 26 last month and should get even better.

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Summed up nicely

I’m most excited about Henne going forward, and the two corners quickly becoming an elite tandem. Starks was great this year, and the DE position might be the deepest on the team (Langford, Merling, Starks, and McDaniel).

And I agree that we are one go-to guy at WR away from having a nasty WR corps. Ginn as a complementary WR, Bess working in the slot, Hartline and Camarillo are both solid possession guys. We are still missing that stud that completes the group though, and I hope we get that guy this offseason.

and LOL@ the “Polite isn’t very Polite” joke. I now have to murder a broadcaster. lol

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by Little Nicky 21 on Jan 5, 2010 12:26 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

The Lousaka Monster does not need eyes....

Because he uses echo-location to find holes in the line. That’s why you hear that screeching noise every time he runs, striking fear into the defensive line…

by Phin-Phan-Phorever on Jan 5, 2010 12:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Matty, What about Lex Hilliard providing relief to find a RB after Ricky retires next season.
Lex has not disappointed since he was thrusted into action

Cut Gibril Wilson!!

by dolfan0918 on Jan 5, 2010 12:39 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Great write up!

I agree that Bess, Camrillo and Hartline really showed great potential. I know a need for this team is a true WR, however I think the FO will pass on this position this year. I mean who knows who is going to break out in 2010… Hartline or Turner as other WR have… Miles Austin…?

LB, and DT I think are a little more pressing.

The Patriots Suck

by k2oconnor on Jan 5, 2010 12:47 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Good post.

Only commentI have is in regards to Sean Smith. While I think the kid has some real potential, I don’t think he’s going to be as good as Vontae Davis. There’s a reason Smith might have looked better than Davis from mid-season on. They stopped playing the corners locked onto one side of the field. Davis took responsibilities for the #1 receiver, while Smith was put on the #2 due to struggles earlier in the season.

Overall our outlook in the secondary is very good, all we need now is a true cover FS. I like Wilson, but the fact remains he’s a SS, not a FS.

by luvs2drnk on Jan 5, 2010 1:28 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Actually I think we let the offenses dictate coverages

We played them on one side of the field exclusively. I remember hearing that there was a reason not to move them from their side of the field. So the other teams were intentionally pairing the number one receiver up with Vontae Davis over Sean Smith. Gibril Wilson is a SS that played FS(and sucked at it) We need a FS(I am hoping Chris Clemens can step into that role more next year).

by Jason Scott_90 on Jan 5, 2010 5:31 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That's what teams were doing early in the season against us.

They were sliding the better receivers to Smith’s side and exploiting him. So Pasqualoni made the adjustment and started giving them assignments, and they followed those receivers wherever they went. Vontae was showing more promise, so he was given the #1 receiver duties.

by luvs2drnk on Jan 5, 2010 6:57 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Not entirely accurate

Smith was given the job of covering Andre Johnson and he held him to 3 catches for 40 yards. The TD Johnson scored, by the way, was with Nate Jones on him in the slot.

by Matty I on Jan 5, 2010 7:28 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

That game was the anamoly.

The Texans used 3 and 4 WR sets, and lots of motion to get Johnson into mismatches against our nickel back and LBs. Pasqualoni made the adjustment and told the guys to maintain their assignments regardless of the motion, unfortunately he didn’t do it until the 3rd quarter.

by luvs2drnk on Jan 5, 2010 9:06 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

nice post matty

"It didn't take the wildcat to beat the patriots... Just a wolverine."

by DaBlizad260 on Jan 5, 2010 1:57 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

It does look good moving forward ...

Agree with you on all points matty .. great post

The main thing Iike is that our O-line and D-line is just about set and we have a young QB that can work with our young WR’s during the offseason. Yes we still need a nose tackle that can eat up blockers but that will come this offseason and we still need to find a RG to stick with all season errr game long .. hopefully Donald Thomas will make good progress this offseason.

All in all it does look positive, the main thing is that this team has been much deeper than any other team I have personally seen. The last time we lost our starting QB, RB, and CB we went 1-15 .. this year we finished 7-9, I can live with that as a fan.

Look forward to all the offseason talk this year

by markus_13 on Jan 5, 2010 3:51 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I have to agree

I get pissed when we lose, especially the close ones the last few weeks. The best thing is that most of that talent was “grown” by Miami. Polite was a scrap heap player and has become the best FB in the league,

2009 was like picking up a fat chick, You had a little fun, but you don't necessarily want to see it again.

by phatfinfan on Jan 5, 2010 8:35 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Polite got robbed this year. He is the FB of the AFC.

Mclain is still living off his breakout run last season.

2009 was like picking up a fat chick, You had a little fun, but you don't necessarily want to see it again.

by phatfinfan on Jan 5, 2010 6:34 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It shouldn't have even been close

No other FB was close to Polite this year! Running or blocking. No one has been as successful in short yardage situations as Polite and no one has blown up LBs going through the hole like Polite. Some day he will get the recognition that he has deserved the last 2 years.

by Vanman_FishFan13 on Jan 6, 2010 10:55 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Lets hope. I think it may have come this year if we had not struggled all year.

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by texascowpunk on Jan 7, 2010 8:25 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Brandon Marshall

Denver would be very foolish to let him go…I wouldn’t mind seeing him in aqua & orange!
A true #1 Receiver…..together with Hatline, Bess & Camarillo that would be incredible!

by MassFinFan65 on Jan 5, 2010 9:16 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I'd convince Bess to give up #15.

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by Patssuck456 on Jan 5, 2010 1:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Listen they don't call this guy baby T.O. for nothing....

We need to steer clear of these “diva” recievers which brandon clearly is… Yea he has a boatload of tallent but the guy has been a problem ever since his college days at UCF. I believe they even had his girlfriend on an interview on national television talking about how he used to beat the s@#t out of her, and other women!! Listen the guy was defiant at the beginning of the season towards the new coaching staff, and was sat the last game this season for a reason…. (and it wasn’t his hamstring)
I also don’t want Anquan Boldin, simply because it just feels like evey year he needs a new contract with more money.. This guy is always complaining!!
We need an Andre Johnson type player!! I could even live with Vincent Jackson he definitely has the size this regime covets… (Both very productive and TEAM players!)

by DisPhinatiC on Jan 6, 2010 10:08 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I am in complete agreement

As appealing as he might be, though highly priced, I don’t want him to poison the team. I would rather overpay for Andre Johnson than Brandon Marshall. You never hear anything negative about Johnson.

by Vanman_FishFan13 on Jan 6, 2010 10:58 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Really? We need an Andre Johnson type player?

Really? Wow, breaking news…. here’s the problem.
There is only 1 Andre Johnson type player in the NFL, and he isn’t leaving the Texans.
Andre Johnson/Marvin Harrison were the exceptions to the rule when it comes to talented WR that aren’t headcases. It goes with the position, because you only get a chance to make a play if someone throws you the ball…

Elite WR talent…just comes with headaches. Whether its Owens, Moss, Ochocinco, Marshall…..it is what it is.

Sign the man.

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If Pat White played Tyler Thigpen for the starting QB position for the Miami Dolphins, who would win?

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by Fr8Train on Jan 6, 2010 11:49 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Moss isn't so much a headcase anymore

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by Dave.Phuller on Jan 6, 2010 2:53 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

anymore being the key term....

he’s been in the league how long compared to Brandon Marshall?

And even still he gets crap for taking plays/games off….

Leader of the - Settle down Junior!, Henne is the Starter Movement
"We've moved. We're Here....Get Over it"

If Pat White played Tyler Thigpen for the starting QB position for the Miami Dolphins, who would win?

Answer - A 2010 Draft Pick

by Fr8Train on Jan 6, 2010 3:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed.

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by Dave.Phuller on Jan 6, 2010 4:03 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

what about

Larry Fitzgerald, no headache there and is the best receiver in the league.

by phinhead on Jan 6, 2010 9:11 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I think I'd run a naked mile in Alaska if we got Fitz

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by Dave.Phuller on Jan 6, 2010 11:36 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'd crawl the naked mile if we got Fitz....

Leader of the - Settle down Junior!, Henne is the Starter Movement
"We've moved. We're Here....Get Over it"

If Pat White played Tyler Thigpen for the starting QB position for the Miami Dolphins, who would win?

Answer - A 2010 Draft Pick

by Fr8Train on Jan 7, 2010 10:49 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

and then piss on a spark plug...

Leader of the - Settle down Junior!, Henne is the Starter Movement
"We've moved. We're Here....Get Over it"

If Pat White played Tyler Thigpen for the starting QB position for the Miami Dolphins, who would win?

Answer - A 2010 Draft Pick

by Fr8Train on Jan 7, 2010 10:50 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah our chances of getting him are probably even less

than getting Andre. But I am with you I would frigging think I had won the lottery if we were to get either one. They are with out a doubt the 2 best in the league although I give the edge to Andre.

"I hope you know a lot more than you believe in"-Gram Parsons
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle

by texascowpunk on Jan 7, 2010 8:29 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

There are always exceptions to the rules...

Leader of the - Settle down Junior!, Henne is the Starter Movement
"We've moved. We're Here....Get Over it"

If Pat White played Tyler Thigpen for the starting QB position for the Miami Dolphins, who would win?

Answer - A 2010 Draft Pick

by Fr8Train on Jan 7, 2010 10:49 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

First off...

this was a great post and made me realize that this was one of the best seasons of football I’ve ever watched by this team (next to ‘09). One helluva emotional roller coaster from week 1 to week 17. There’s really only one loss about this season that absolutely kills me (Buffalo in week 12). Otherwise I saw some of the best games as a Dolphin FAN despite coming out on the losing end. The win against the Jets on Monday night was so close to the happiness I felt of seeing my son born (not even kidding), just unreal…

I look forward to the offseason chats and analysis. And now that I’ve expressed my feelings on the positives, the greatest need for this team is at the LB position specifically in the middle, guys that can stop the run yet be able to cover the pass when needed. WR is also a need but not worth spending a first round pick on (IMO). Whatever the case, I’ll trust the front office.

Thanks for an excellent seasons worth of analysis and opinions. It made figuring out the first thing to do when I got to work a lot easier.

by WestMichiganWildcats on Jan 5, 2010 10:13 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I'd have to agree we need a LB that can knock MotherF@%$# out and keep up with TE's. None of our guys can't do that. Thats for sure.

With the 12th pick MIAMI DOLPHINS select Brandon Spikes. (MCclain will probably be gone) I know everyone has us taking Cody or or Williams but I’d like to give Ferguson and Solai at least another year before selecting a no work ethic Cody. THen again Parcells and Sprano will push them and get the best from them.
http://www.thefootballexpert.com/mockdraftdatabase.html (2010 mock drafts)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_NFL_Draft (Past Drafts) Awesome for looking at past draft action. Who got who from who and so on.

If yo ucheck the wikpedia you can see this regeime methodically working from the inside out. So that’s why I see them grabbing Cody or Williams if available. I believe that position is hard to fill and there tends to be deeper talent at the LB postion. I guess we’ll have to wait and see. What do you guys think.

by D0lphins4Life on Jan 5, 2010 11:00 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Have to weigh priorities...Defense or WR 1st Pick

In this league you have to have a true #1 receiver…but our Defense needs some wholes filled as well….maybe we can fill a whole in free agency which could help our draft picks more clear….I trust our VP & Company!

by MassFinFan65 on Jan 5, 2010 11:31 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't believe this Regime will go after an unproven WR in the draft. They'll work the big guys before they'll go WR.

I believe they’ll try the FA for our WR before using a high draft pick for one, but I could be wrong. THey chose PW for there second rounder. (UGH!!!)

by D0lphins4Life on Jan 5, 2010 1:27 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

absolutely

I believe we need some help at MLB! It just seemed to me that Channing Crowder was out of shape all year and we do need a “Bad MotherFu@^er” to knock someone out and keep up with the TE!

by BraveNole on Jan 5, 2010 1:56 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly, did you see miller pull away from our guys. If Pittsburgh was smart they would've exploited the hell out of that match up. We need another ZT.

I believe we can get someone in the second round. As much as I’d like to see a LB 1st round. I see us going with much of the predictions it only makes since. Unless we go FA (WILFORK) and draft 2 LB. (Kindle Witherspoon, Lee?)

by D0lphins4Life on Jan 5, 2010 3:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

KINDLE, Witherspoon, Lee 2nd rounders. I hope Mclain or Spike can fall in our laps.

With two first round picks, Watch out for 49ers snatching one of these two though. What a ILB Willis and McClain/Spikes. (wow)

by D0lphins4Life on Jan 5, 2010 3:13 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Give our kickers some love

DC$ was good as his name – 4th in FG% (89%) in the NFL among kickers with 20 or more FG attempts.
Brandon booted some boomers – 6th in the NFL with punters with 10 or more punts, and 4th in punts inside the 20. Both young guys that will be solid for many years to come.

Also on special teams:
Ginn is 5th in the NFL in return yds with 1296.
Bess at #44th is not the answer for punt returning though.

I think other than O-line, RB and QB, this is the other place we are locked and loaded for 2010.

Interesting note: ex-fins O. Mare is number 2 FG and KO kicker and Donnie Jones is #4 punter.

by Dolphriend on Jan 5, 2010 10:16 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

I agree...

the kicking game was great this year and along with that the coverage teams seemed quite improved than last year as well. I’m still waiting for the day a Dolphin returns a punt for a TD. I’d keep Bess as a receiver and nothing more. I’d rather see Hartline returning punts. Or we go after that McCluster from Ole’ Miss, he’s got Chirs Johnson speed…

by WestMichiganWildcats on Jan 5, 2010 11:54 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Can Hartline be a number 1?

Living on the west coast, I don’t get to actually watch many Dolphins games, so I haven’t seen him play as much as all of you probably have. Does Hartline have the skill set to transform into a number one type receiver? Or will he be forever relegated to being a complimentary type?

by cpmustangs13 on Jan 5, 2010 10:36 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Solid compliment receiver? yes. #1 receiver? Too slow.

2009 was like picking up a fat chick, You had a little fun, but you don't necessarily want to see it again.

by phatfinfan on Jan 5, 2010 6:21 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Why is he too slow?

A low 4.5-40 (4.53).. You do realize Boldin is, like mid-to-high 4.5s right? A number of #1 receivers are not a hell of a lot faster than Hartline, if faster in the first place.

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by Dave.Phuller on Jan 5, 2010 6:24 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

He looks much slower than that on the field.

Boldin is not a #1. Fitz is the #1.

2009 was like picking up a fat chick, You had a little fun, but you don't necessarily want to see it again.

by phatfinfan on Jan 5, 2010 6:26 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

But Boldin IS a #1 receiver.

The Cardinals have two of them. It is possible.. we don’t have one. A #1 receiver and THE #1 receiver are entirely different. Boldin is A #1 receiver.

I’ve read sources that say Hartline doesn’t lose much speed with pads on. So. Just sayin’.

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by Dave.Phuller on Jan 5, 2010 6:28 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm the only guy in the world that is not sold on Boldin.

He has great moments, but he was pretty quiet in the first half of this year.

2009 was like picking up a fat chick, You had a little fun, but you don't necessarily want to see it again.

by phatfinfan on Jan 5, 2010 6:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

He had a injuries

High ankle sprain, which by the way would have sidelined 95% of the players in the NFL. Boldin is a definite number 1, but is injury prone. So buyers beware…..most likely he will play through the injury, but his production dips when he is injured. And he is arguably the most physically intimidating WR in the league with the football in his hands. NO defensive back wants to try and tackle that guy in the open field.

by Vanman_FishFan13 on Jan 6, 2010 11:03 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

..Maybe..

;)

Not sure actually. I wouldn’t be surprised if it was, though.

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by Dave.Phuller on Jan 5, 2010 11:05 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Don't think that I'm knocking Hartline, I like the guy...

He plays great. If he is going to become a #1 he needs to bulk up. I know he is young, but he needs to hit the weight room. I agree, you do not have to have 4.4 speed to be a # 1, but you have to have strength to take the ball away from corners and safetys.

2009 was like picking up a fat chick, You had a little fun, but you don't necessarily want to see it again.

by phatfinfan on Jan 5, 2010 6:29 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

and get off the LOS with double coverage.

2009 was like picking up a fat chick, You had a little fun, but you don't necessarily want to see it again.

by phatfinfan on Jan 5, 2010 6:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh I agree with you and knew you weren't knocking him

Nor am I arguing that Hartline will be a #1. Boldin is a fringe #1 at worst, and even that would significantly help Henne and the offense.

I also agree that he needs to bulk up and do believe he will a bit. I see him as a top-notch #2 at his peak, something like a Kevin Walter is to Andre Johnson. And I do agree that we completely need our own “Andre Johnson.” So in essence, I agree with you. Just not on the argument that BH is too slow.

And yes, all of our receivers need to work on getting past jams at the line/double-coverage.

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2009 Unofficial "The Phinsider" (Phinaddict's League) Fantasy Baseball League Champion

by Dave.Phuller on Jan 5, 2010 6:34 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

My question is about Turner.

Do we give up on him already, or will he produce? I was excited about him last training camp. Now I wish we had kept Brandon London. I was talking about Turner with my father in law,a huge Chargers fan, and he said that V. Jackson sat his entire first year and started to produce in his second year. I think the Dolphins need to bring in more receiver coaching to teach these guys how to run patterns in the NFL and techniques to get off the press. They have pretty good hands.

2009 was like picking up a fat chick, You had a little fun, but you don't necessarily want to see it again.

by phatfinfan on Jan 5, 2010 6:45 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

With some of them

it might be able being less physical. I’m not entirely sure what their issues are. Turner would need to be coached up quite a bit, but still may not be physical enough to get off the line. I do agree that his hands seem to be good and that he’d be a solid end zone threat..

Perhaps you’re right about the need for proper coaching. Turner lacks the athleticism of a Vincent Jackson, is the problem I discovered in my analysis on the kid a month or so back. He may not end the same way because of it.

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by Dave.Phuller on Jan 5, 2010 11:07 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Rice ran the same speed basically

what set him apart was seperation, strength, route running, use of space, quickness, use of body, concentration, and hands. Many qualities hartline has and others like use of space and positioning on corner he can grow in

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by Blaze453 on Jan 6, 2010 12:16 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Ive Been following thses post all year...

and most of them are spot on. There is definately a lot of promise on this team and the future looks bright. I absolutely love Polite. The guy deserves a lot more credit than he gets outside of Dolphin fans. I even bought my dog a custom jersey with Polite’s number 36 on it. Our corners are going to be great in the future and I truthfully think this team will be ready for a deep playoff run in 2 years.

 Despite the lack of a true number one receiver I do like what we have, and I see Brian Hartline as a future leader on that offense. He has so much intensity and plays hard every game. He has the attitude and passion you want in your locker room. On that same note they need to make sure JT returns next year. I loved seeing him screaming at the defense a couple times over the last few weeks. He isnt the JT of old, but he is still a hell of a player and to great a leader to let go of.

Also I havent heard much mention of it…and ill probably lose any credibility I could have earned here, but Ted Ginn looked decent at the end of the year. He still made a few terrible plays(like that Thigpen Interception near the goaline) but hes actually been catching the ball and even broke a few decent gains. I found myself not screaming everytime I saw him down the stretch. While he isnt a number 1 and never will be, I do think he can still make plays for us if he can even play at the level he did during the last 3 weeks. He has a world of issues, but with no perceived trade value I dont think giving up on him just yet is the answer. Guys like Ayodele and Wilson on the other hand…im not so sure.

Also Thigpen looks like a worthy backup to me. For not seeing live action in a year he showed up pretty well for us on Sunday, though because it ended the game his lone mistake(I put the other one on Teddy) overshadows what he did. He broke a lot of tackles in the backfield and bought a lot of time and found the open recievers. He had a couple over throws that could have been huge plays, but hey a little rust is acceptable in his position. I think Sparano plans on using him to really challenge Hennes job as he should.

All in all im really pleased with the direction we are going in. I think our defense has more issues than our offense…they only show up one half, so maybe a little more young talent could really help out, especially from the linebacker position. Then maybe bring in Zach as a linebackers coach since the spot is open…I wouldnt mind that one bit.

by DanM on Jan 5, 2010 10:47 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

never thought i would hear myself say this

but that pick wasnt Ginn’s fault, he was double covered and the ball was thrown low, Thigpen never should have thrown that

by danlr13 on Jan 5, 2010 12:08 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed. Nothing Ginn could do at that point.

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by texascowpunk on Jan 5, 2010 1:10 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

jumping to ginn's defense is nice to see

it was an objectively impossible catch. interesting that some first instincts are still to knock teddy no matter what, but maybe this will change. tedd’’s been getting and learning from top coverage from our opponents. we get a no. 1 receiver, requiring other teams to cover him with less talent — he and we do better.

by a1a on Jan 6, 2010 7:03 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Not me

I reserve that for Gerbil

by Vanman_FishFan13 on Jan 6, 2010 11:05 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Im not saying it was a great throw

But Ted needs to learn how to fight for a ball or at least try and not let the pick happen. The ball is supposed to be low in that situation, especially to a guy like Ginn. There is definately some PI, but thats no excuse, thats part of the game. I agree that if we get a true number 1 he will be better. I do think there is a chance down the road that hartline could develop into that guy. Well see in a year or two.

by DanM on Jan 6, 2010 11:57 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

He was more or less tackled by two guys at the same time. It looked like

they were all three trying to occupy the same space. I dont know that anyone makes that catch.

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by texascowpunk on Jan 7, 2010 8:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Nice summary matty

i have been thinking the same things about the season. Our CBs will be a strength next year and should continue to improve over the next few seasons, if we can give Starks some help in the pass rush. No Corners can lock down WRs with the opposing QB has 10 seconds to sit in the pocket and survey the field. And how about a FS who can cover? With better pressure on the QB and better help from a FS, considering the depth we will have when W. Allen comes back, our secondary is could be among the best in the league. BTW, speaking of depth at DB, i thought Jason Allen played his best season at DB so far (not counting his STs contribs). And Nate Jones is pretty solid.

I’m with you on Manning and Brees. I almost posted the same thing. Both those guy struggled for the first season or two. Give Henne a better deep threat who can really beat coverages and another year as starter and see how he does. Speaking of WRs, I think Hartline might just have the most upside of the guys currently on the roster. He certainly seems to play faster than his 40 time would suggest. He runs a very low 4.5, and it doesn’t look like he loses much with pads on. And if you remember the break down I did of our WRs early in the offseason, Hartline is the quickest WR on the roster (yes, even quicker than Bess):

40 times are only one indicator of ability, and there are other metrics that are important at the WR position. The Short Shuttle, or 20 Yd Shuttle, for instance, is a good indicator of whether the WR is going to be able to come out of his breaks quick enough to create separation from the DB. Wes Welker runs the 40 in the mid 4.6s, but his short shuttle was a blazing 4.01 seconds. As a comparison, the quickest WR short shuttle time from this year’s Combine** was 4.08 by a kid named Kevin Ogletree.

**Not all prospects ran, but of the ones that did, Heyward-Bey (the 1st WR drafted) was the 6th quickest with a time of 4.18, and our own Brian Hartline was 4th, with a time of 4.12 seconds. Not bad huh? Hartline was also the 2nd quickest of the WRs that ran the 3-Cone drill, with a time of 6.65. Wes Welker? He ran the Cone Drill in 7.09.

He is also the biggest WR we have, and other than Ginn, he is the fastest overall. IMO, the kid is a solid #2… maybe better with another season under his belt.

I would like to see the Fins try to pick up a quality FA this offseason. With major needs at WR, LB, and FS, I don’t see how we are going to be a serious playoff contender next year by trying to fill all these needs through the draft. Since WR is probably the most difficult to step into as a rookie, I guess I would hope that we would try to get that position filled in FA and draft to the other two. However, if the Triad doesn’t decide to purchase a quality FA at at least one of those positions, maybe two, this offseason, it is going to be another building year next season as well.

BTW, i still think Soliai is not the answer at NT, and i still place a priority on that position as well. the quicker we can collapse the pocket on every play, the better our LBs will play the run, and the better our young DBs will play in coverage. But i would be willing to go another season (assuming Ferg comes back for rotational duty) with what we have at the position if we could solve those other three deficiencies.

Happy new year Matty!

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Jan 5, 2010 11:49 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Hoping and Praying

for Brandon Marshall. Second on wish list is Vincent Jackson. Matty, your posts are so god dam classy it makes me sick. (in a good way)

by captain flitzy on Jan 5, 2010 11:57 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Red Zone Performance is SO much better

Matty- love this blog; I’ve been a Dol-fan since 1982— ever since I watched with amazement as we executed the hook and lateral against SD in that playoff game so long ago…

What I saw this year was the offense scoring TDs, not FGs. In 2007 and 2008, we just couldn’t get into the endzone. To me, THAT is a major step forward. Unfortunately, the middle of our D took a step backward this year. I, too, want a stud receiver. But I’ve decided that I’m not going to freak if we don’t draft one in the first round. We have LOTS of holes on D, and our first couple of picks need to be guys who can come in and PLAY on opening day 2010. As history shows, the majority of WRs aren’t really good until their third or fourth year (unless your last name is Ginn), so I wouldn’t be suprised to see us go after a WR through trade or FA.

by DrJay32 on Jan 5, 2010 12:13 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Any shakeups thusfar

Or are the Phins static for the time-being?

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by Farorefox on Jan 5, 2010 12:52 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I'm still wondering myself

if we signed that lineman from the CFL.. seems to have some potential and could make our rotation potentially eight-deep for little extra money.

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by Dave.Phuller on Jan 5, 2010 1:20 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

You are actually missing a few postives?

I think you listed all of them.

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by Patssuck456 on Jan 5, 2010 1:29 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

heres a positive

it is without a doubt that we are cutting gibril wilson!

by kazam92 on Jan 5, 2010 1:47 PM EST reply actions   1 recs

Btw according to Yahoo Sports

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/rumors/post/Dolphins-losing-Jason-Taylor-?urn=nfl,211596

Jason Taylor is Mum to whether he is coming back in a Phins uniform next season.

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by Farorefox on Jan 5, 2010 1:47 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

That would be such a shame

Jason proved himself to be able to handle any front 7 position and play it at its best, even if he has lost some speed.

by metalhead86 on Jan 5, 2010 3:18 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Wildcat

Although the direction of the offense had to take a turn once Ronnie Brown was hurt, I was very excited to see the consistent success of the Wildcat formation in the first half of the season. More than a gimmick, more than trick plays, both the running backs and o-line showed their ability to DOMINATE on the ground! The Atlanta game was total ineptness on offense then we give up a long TD to start the Colts game… I’m sure I wasn’t the only fan thinking it could be a very long disappointing season at that point. Then we start running Wildcat plays and completely man-handle the Colts D. I feel that success in the 2nd game of the year was critical to the direction of the season at that point. Imagine if the offensive play was as unproductive against Indy as it was at Atlanta. Ronnie Brown’s success in the Wildcat allowed this team to get their footing and get something done early in the season. As noted a few posts ago, the Red Zone offense was very good this year… 7’s were so much better than 3’s. A big part of that success throughout the year was the Wildcat running plays… even direct snaps to Ricky on a few occassions. The prevalence and success of the Wildcat also gave an opportunity for Henne to ease more gently into the starting role.

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by FrozenFin on Jan 5, 2010 1:50 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I don't want to get too TOO much into semantics...

but I didn’t see it as a disappointing season at all really.

If I’d said we’d lose our starting QB (CP) + our best offensive player (Ronnie) + having a super hard schedule + our top DB (will allen) lost for the year very year + our biggest FA acquisition (Wilson) would be a big bust………..well you would think we’d be on our way to a 4-12 disaster.

As is the team was competitive in almost every single game. The only exception being that abomination of a game we had in Buffalo where we tanked in the 4th quarter.

Plus as Matty outlined above – think of what we know about our players now….vs at the beginning of the season. Henne went through some ups & downs but that’s to be expected for his first year starting. He has got enough game for me to say, he’s the real deal & the solution to our woes at the position.

And if you have been vaguely paying attention since #13 retired, the ‘when will we get a franchise QB’ question has only been the biggest question we’ve had that gets asked every season and hasn’t been answered………till now.

Our 2 young corners showed up & held their own despite having to step in sooner than expected due to will allen’s injury. Hartline was productive & a nice surprise. Camarillo & especially Bess, were both reliable & solid. The offensive line lived up to it’s billing and gave us a dominant running game. Heck, even Ricky Williams got 1000 yards despite being thought of as over the hill by some in the league.

We were in contention for a playoff spot until the very last weeks of the season. When at 7-6 it was possible actually but not realistic. That’s why I’m not disappointing with the season. THis is a young team that still learning how to win, still developing/finding its identity & grooming leadership. That’s part of the growth & maturation process that young teams go through on their way to achieving some real success.

Everybody here knows the upgrades we need to take the next steps. If the front office makes that happen (WR, LB, NT, FS, etc) and the guys we have on the team already keep developing, then this is going to be a playoff team for sure in 2010.

by Natalya on Jan 5, 2010 2:20 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

hey Left!

thanks dude!

no surprise that you did well.

Drop me a line – i wanna hear about the FF + bs about the playoffs :-)

by Natalya on Jan 6, 2010 3:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Stupid Idea - but i'm game....

Here in Ohio, someone got the bright idea to announce on a talk radio show for the fans of the Browns to all send in a Postcard to the Front office…. all that was to be written on the Postcard was “Redo Cribb’s Contract”. From some reports here they got well over 10,000 or so postcards, as some fans took it to blogs and message boards and it really spread.

I wonder if we should do the same and have it say “Sign Brandon Marshall”. Hell for $1.50 or whatever the card would cost with cheap postage…. I’m all in.

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by Fr8Train on Jan 5, 2010 2:27 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

While a good idea

I don’t think the Miami front office is under the same pressure from the fans as Cleavland is.

by CNYdolfan on Jan 5, 2010 3:19 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes they would.... but it would be fun :)

Imagine Parcells getting 10,000+ postcards… you know he’d have to address it lol
leak it to the media….. it could be fun… lol

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by Fr8Train on Jan 5, 2010 4:46 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

lol it would be pretty funny

I wonder if they would even reach him lol

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by Little Nicky 21 on Jan 5, 2010 4:49 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Damn it I'm in... I'll get it started...

We’ll put out the call, and get as many fin fans as we can, and everyone mail them on February 1st….that would give us almost 30 days to round up as many as possible.

I’ll make a fan post or something tonight or tomorrow, with the details.

Sure, its a ridiculous idea, but the one thing I’ve gotten from Mr. Ross is he wants to entertain the fans….. and if he thinks enough fans want Marshall…then maybe if he considers it….it pushes him over.

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by Fr8Train on Jan 5, 2010 4:54 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm down lol

let’s get it done.

Call it…. Operation BM lol

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by Little Nicky 21 on Jan 5, 2010 7:22 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know how serious you guys are

But I’m 100% serious when I say I’d send 5.

by Dolphinole on Jan 5, 2010 9:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Offense wins games, Defense wins chanpionships. I would MUCH rather see the FO beef up our D first.

ST needs work too. I would rather see this team spend the entire off-season learning how to tackle than get a #1 WR

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by PhinsTifosi on Jan 5, 2010 10:23 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

True....

Look what the Ravens did in their Super Bowl year. They had virtually no offense and won with Trent Dildo…er I mean Dilfer. Our offense is good enough to score points and win if we had an above average defense that could make a stop in key situations.

by Vanman_FishFan13 on Jan 6, 2010 11:08 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

It would help.

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by texascowpunk on Jan 7, 2010 8:33 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Fan Post is up.

http://www.thephinsider.com/2010/1/7/1238451/operation-bm-bring-b-marshall-to

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by Fr8Train on Jan 7, 2010 12:01 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Although I'd be up for it

as long as we got to add “cut Gibril Wilson” to it also.

by CNYdolfan on Jan 5, 2010 3:21 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I agree on Henne, he might just be the answer, but the OL and CB statement, not so much.

The most important thing to come out of the ’09 season is Henne getting significant playing time and being productive. That is HUGE for this team going forward. QB is by far the most important position on the field and it is not even close. Everything that I have seen from Henne this year points to him being a good to very good QB for the Phins for the forseeable future.

I can’t agree with your majority of your statement on the O-Line. Long is a stud, that part I agree with. And I guess they have good depth, but the Phins didn’t shell out a ton of money (the most expensive OL in the NFL for ‘09) for depth. They paid that money to dominate, and they didn’t this year. And you can’t dominate when you rely significantly on back-ups. With Grove and Carey, you need back-ups because they are injury prone. Grove has a history of only playing 1/2 to 3/4 of the games. Carey is always “nicked up” and not playing to his potential. The Dude at Finsnation sums up the OL play nicely:

One thing I can tell you, the Trifecta showed some weakness of judgement this last off-season. From the aforementioned Wilson signing to all the shitloads of cash we threw at a so-so injury-riddled offensive line, to the weird-ass bizarro mysterious Matt Roth episode. All in all, when your lone Pro Bowl selection is your left tackle, it pretty much means you’re going to finish every season 7-9 until that shit changes.

As far as the rookie CB’s go, Smith is a stud and by far the best CB on the team. Davis, from what I have seen, I am not sold on. He had some INT’s, granted. But just about every big TD pass allow this year was a result of his coverage. And you can’t make the argument that he covered the other teams best WR every week because he didn’t. I went to two game this year, NO and NE. By the middle of the 2nd Quarter in the NO game and the middle of the 1st Quarter in the NE game, I could point out where Brees and Brady were going to throw the football and that was away from Smith. In those games Smith lined up over Colston, Meachum, Moss and Welker and those WR’s weren’t targeted when he was in coverage, whoever Davis was covering was. That tells me all I need to know.

I wholeheartedly agree with your assessments of Polite and Starks. Those two players are very good and young enough that you can build around them. The WR’s are a mixed bag to me. I still think Bess, Camarillo, and Hartline are all the same guy. Are they good players, yes, but I don’t think you need all of them. Of those 3, which one catches a pass and makes people miss? None. Which one can score from anywhere on the field. None, I have seen all three caught from behind this year, rather easily. They all run good routes, catch the ball effectively, and don’t hurt you with their play. But they also don’t do anything great. On a good WR Corp. how many of these type of guys do you need?

by ct1361 on Jan 5, 2010 5:40 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I said in another string that Smith was the steal of the draft. He is without a doubt a true shutdown corner.

I never heard his name called for a long gain or TD on him. As you said, he got no INTs cause the ball was very rarely thrown his way. You simply can not ask for better play than we got from Smith this year. He should have gone to the Pro Bowl, just like Polite and Starks.

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by PhinsTifosi on Jan 5, 2010 10:30 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Hahah whoa man you are going way to far. To the pro bowl ? are you kidding?

Smith was good for a rookie but he completely stalled after the pre season ended. He is the most over hyped rookie I’ve ever seen wear a Dolphins uniform, and by far. Of course he did get beat a whole lot and made a ton of rookie mistakes, a ton. Did you watch the first game against Atlanta? Roddy White beat him deep and down the middle, badly, at least 3 times but Ryan failed to deliver as he did all season long. That’s just one of many examples. Again, Im not saying he is bad. I like him and has tons of upside, I specially like his attitude and character too. But man, to say there is “no doubt” he a true shutdown corner and that he should made the Pro Bowl? Come the f on.

by MauMontaV5 on Jan 6, 2010 4:37 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Want the best evidence there could possibly be?

Sean Smith is regarded as a supreme playmaker. How many interceptions did he have on the season? Starting 16 games? Yep that’s right 0. Overhyped much?

by MauMontaV5 on Jan 6, 2010 4:41 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

people were excited about him -- fine. he's a steal in the draft. don't find him either

over or under hyped. we should be glad to have him. his first pro game (atlanta) isn’t a serious baseline for performance.

by a1a on Jan 6, 2010 7:15 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Good point

Lets let the guy get ONE NFL game under his belt against true number 1 WRs. He showed in the second half of the season what he is capable of. He was definitely a steal and will definitely be making several trips to the pro bowl in another couple of years. I say by 2012 he will make it.

by Vanman_FishFan13 on Jan 6, 2010 11:10 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

He will eventually get there....

But not a pro bowler this year. Polite and Starks should have gone.

by Vanman_FishFan13 on Jan 6, 2010 11:09 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

only thing I'll say

is hartrline averaged 16.8 yards a catch. He has an upside.

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by Blaze453 on Jan 6, 2010 12:22 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

More than I though when we drafted him

We have a lot of decent WRs that will get better, now we just need a legit number 1

by Vanman_FishFan13 on Jan 6, 2010 11:11 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Oh yeah, I forgot one thing - Ginn

he sucks. I don’t care what anyone wants to say about his KRs, I have watched him play every game and my opinion is the same as last year:
- he can’t beat the jam
- he has slow short speed
- he has no lateral movement/he’s not quick and can’t juke guys
- he can’t break arm tackles
- he has poor vision and runs right into guys when he could run around them
- he is inconsistent – at best – catching the ball when it is a catchable ball.

Oh, and I’m over the whole Pat White at QB experiment. Try him at WR/KR/PR.

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Jan 5, 2010 7:07 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

with respect, the actual numbers run contrary to your impressions

tho i agree he could stand to react faster. he can do it. we’ve seen it at this level. at .1.2 mil a year he’s not the problem.
the catches he made the last half of the season were hardly only ‘catchable’ balls,

by a1a on Jan 6, 2010 7:22 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

we can disagree

But this is definitely not just about numbers. Numbers do not differentiate between a catch made in the first quarter with a lead and a catch made with the game on the line.
Ginn has been unreliable and ineffective the majority of the time, regardless of the catches he has actually made.
You can’t build a game plan or a team around inconsistent players.

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Jan 6, 2010 5:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

damn

i knew that the season was over, but it just hit me. shit, this sucks.

by TheCableguy on Jan 5, 2010 9:41 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Black Monday

They say it’s for the coaches getting fired…….but it’s more for us fans of non-playoff teams that have to wake-up to WINTER and realize that it’s another 7 loooooong months until training camp.

Was a great year with all the back and forth banter between true football fans. Looking forward to free agency and the draft. But for now, let’s celebrate a team that never quit and gave us a season to remember!!

by crossborderFISHingtrip on Jan 5, 2010 10:25 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

amen brother

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by PhinsTifosi on Jan 5, 2010 10:31 PM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Broncos available?

Think we could trade Ginn, Fasano, plus a pick or two for Marshall and Scheffler?
Both ended up in McDaniels doghouse. Scheffler is a beast. I noticed in their locker room after the beat down by KC both Scheffler and Marshall’s stalls were empty. They crossed McDaniel and he suspended them both. He did this poorly so everyone is aware and their market value is low.

by coloradokevin on Jan 5, 2010 10:38 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Ginn....

…would be McDaniels kind of guy….keeps his mouth shut and essentially stays out of trouble. Plays the same way though…ha…

by coloradokevin on Jan 5, 2010 10:39 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

I know everyone likes our 2 new CB's...

…but let’s take a look at what the pass defense stats say:
1. tied for 7th worst in points allowed (390)
2. 9th worst for yards allowed (3754) and yds/game (234)
3. 5th best in completion percentage allowed (57.5)
4. 3rd fewest passes attempted against us (30.6)

What does this all add up to? We allowed too many big passing plays. Not that that surprises anyone, but that is how we can have so few passes thrown against us and so few actually completed against us, yet still be at the top in yards and points allowed. Those stats are glaringly pointing out our biggest problem all year – giving up the big passing play.
Now I actually really like the 2 new corners, but to be heaping such praise on them could use a bit of a reality check. They got burnt, smoked, missed tackles, and out run all year. Were they totally responsible – no. We have Gerbil and our lack of LB coverage that heaped onto those stats. I think they will both get better and did a good job most of the time, giving up the big passing plays is why we are not a playoff team this year. The fact that we were 5th best in completion % against us (281/489), yes 200 incompletions, is very promising. The tackling and getting beat for long plays has to change. Promise – yes, but I am not for applauding these guys quite yet.
Go Phins!

by Dolphriend on Jan 5, 2010 10:57 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Excellent, excellent comment. Right on.

Specially about the big plays. It was pathetic. Every single game we allowed at least one ridiculously long TD pass. I completely agree, people are overhyping the two rookie corners. Specially Smith.

by MauMontaV5 on Jan 6, 2010 4:40 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

as rookies they were more than fine seems to me

the question is, do they show capacity for learning and improvement? seems to me they do.

by a1a on Jan 6, 2010 7:25 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

The pass rush should take a hit

for the long plays as well! It’s not easy to cover a WR when the QB has more than 5 secs to throw the ball !! Most of the big plays were because of the D not getting any presser on the QB..

by 13DolFan23 on Jan 8, 2010 4:48 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

With a little solid support from the FS position

Those numbers would have been better. The Gerbil allowed opposing QBs to have a 97.5 rating when throwing his direction. Bell on the other hand was a solid 71 rating. You need better support from your FS than that. The CBs will get substantially better next year, but our numbers will continue to struggle with that glaring weakness at the FS position, regardless of him being a natural SS.

by Vanman_FishFan13 on Jan 6, 2010 11:16 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Chad Henne

Matti do you see them making the move of removing Chad Henne from starter next year(i think this would be a mistake)?

by Flyfinfan on Jan 6, 2010 11:03 AM EST reply actions   0 recs

Absolutely not.....

There is no way in Hell that Chad Henne is not the clear-cut starter for this team for the next several years…

okay, maybe a major injury, or a sudden attack of the JaMarcus Flu…then maybe. But Henne is our guy. Its time for everyone that is not behind him, to get behind him. In 9 games he’s done well more than what we could ask for, especially when he wasn’t supposed to play much this year, and he played in an offense built for Chad Pennington…next year it’ll be 100% his team, his offense, and this ridiculous discussion about Thigpen/White/QB to be named…..will just go away.

Except of course for the people that really don’t understand the game beyond Madden.

Leader of the - Settle down Junior!, Henne is the Starter Movement
"We've moved. We're Here....Get Over it"

If Pat White played Tyler Thigpen for the starting QB position for the Miami Dolphins, who would win?

Answer - A 2010 Draft Pick

by Fr8Train on Jan 6, 2010 11:53 AM EST up reply actions   0 recs

Chad henne

Agree he is our boy! I only asked this question because this team has signed away future talent before (Wes Welker) in the past. Agree this was Henne’s trail by fire year and the guy has what it takes to become great.

by Flyfinfan on Jan 6, 2010 12:12 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Great post, Matty. And very interesting threads that follow the post.

I don’t care about typos, or misspelled words. BUT there are a few words that if you misspell them they actually mean something quite different. A ‘complimentary receiver’ is Ginn going around and slapping people on the ass and saying, ‘good catch’, ‘great hands, man’, ‘hey, I like the way you finish a play’. Whereas a ‘complementary receiver’ is Ginn as a number 3 or number 4 guy to someone who actually catches the ball, holds on to the ball and runs through defenders for that extra yard or two. Call me an ass if you want, but ‘complimentary’ has to go. It is on par with ‘a mute point’ instead of a ‘moot point’.

by Doug Maxton on Jan 6, 2010 1:46 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Nice Post.

Rec’d. I’m a bit of a lurker here, but as a long-time Dolphins fan I look excitedly forward and enjoy your work.

DC, where Hockey is a baffling ordeal.

by Chris meet Alex on Jan 8, 2010 3:53 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

Luvs 2drink

Did i just hear u say u like G Wilson?? OMG this guy is awful and is the biggest reason Miami got burned for so many yards this season. He is like the worst starter or player on the team and as soon as he is gone Miami will get beter! I watched every Phin game this year and if i had a dollar for every time this season i said god i hate wilson then i would have a lot of money

by Raiden on Jan 8, 2010 7:46 PM EST reply actions   0 recs

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