Two candidates turn down defensive coordinator position
by Matty I on Jan 15, 2010 5:39 PM EST
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PrintApparently this isn't going to be as easy as we all thought. On Friday we learned that two defensive coordinator candidates turned down the opportunity from the Dolphins.
Al Groh - who was presumably the front-runner - decided to head to Georgia Tech to be defensive coordinator rather than to Miami. That is, assuming he was even offered the position.
Meanwhile, Steelers' LB coach Keith Butler reportedly turned down an offer from the Dolphins to be defensive coordinator, instead opting to remain in Pittsburgh.
So what now? Current secondary coach (and assistant head coach) Todd Bowles is most likely the in-house favorite for the defensive coordinator position. But his unit didn't exactly perform well, either. And it does seem like the Dolphins are clearly looking at a coach who specializes in linebackers.
The team did hire former Giants' defensive coordinator Bill Sheridan as a linebackers coach. Could he actually get a promotion to defensive coordinator just days after taking his new gig in Miami? Not likely.
So where do the Dolphins turn now? Is Packers' linebackers coach (and assistant head coach) Winston Moss - a Miami native and University of Miami alum - a potential candidate? What about Dallas linebackers coach Reggie Herring (who is a Florida State alum)? Ravens' linebackers coach Vic Fangio is an experienced defensive coordinator at the NFL level and could garner some attention.
But truth be told, I have no idea where the Dolphins may look next to fill this rather large void. And the clock is ticking towards the first Senior Bowl practice.
[Update: Armando Salguero provides a couple of interesting names that could surface in terms of Miami's hunt for a new defensive coordinator. One is New England's defensive line coach Pepper Johnson - who played for Bill Parcells in New York. The most intriguing name to surface, though, is Browns' defensive line coach Bryan Cox. Yes - that Bryan Cox. But he's only been a coach in this league for four years.
Just two more names to keep an eye on, if nothing else.]
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Oh boy!
"I hope you know a lot more than you believe in"-Gram Parsons
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
And the clock is ticking towards the first Senior Bowl practice
Screw that. I wouldn’t and I know Parcells isn’t gonna rush a man in to fill a position just because of some stupid game. They’ll work around it if Bill doesn’t have his man.
Bottom Line:
This is about the Miami Dolphins, not the Senior Bowl.
"Permanence, perseverance and persistence in spite of all obstacles, discouragements, and impossibilities: It is this, that in all things distinguishes the strong soul from the weak." Thomas Carlyle
"If he wants to, we can throw all day," Henne said. "I love it. Put it in my hands in pressure situations."
I agree but it would be nice if they can find that guy before then all the same.
"I hope you know a lot more than you believe in"-Gram Parsons
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
by texascowpunk on Jan 15, 2010 5:53 PM EST up reply actions
A-men
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We better find someone soon
The Pats D-Coordinator just stepped down and they are now looking for one as well
And?
"Permanence, perseverance and persistence in spite of all obstacles, discouragements, and impossibilities: It is this, that in all things distinguishes the strong soul from the weak." Thomas Carlyle
"If he wants to, we can throw all day," Henne said. "I love it. Put it in my hands in pressure situations."
LOL
They aren’t gonna steal crap from us. Bill gets who Bill wants.
"Permanence, perseverance and persistence in spite of all obstacles, discouragements, and impossibilities: It is this, that in all things distinguishes the strong soul from the weak." Thomas Carlyle
"If he wants to, we can throw all day," Henne said. "I love it. Put it in my hands in pressure situations."
Hmm it looks like that may not be true.
"I hope you know a lot more than you believe in"-Gram Parsons
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
by texascowpunk on Jan 15, 2010 6:52 PM EST up reply actions
Yea
but I think Bill kinda looks at this like he does the draft. When its his turn to pick, he has alot of choices if such and such is not available.
Somehow I don’t see Parcells panicing because things with Groh and Butler didn’t work out. Bill has been in this league for a few decades. He knows ALOT of people. And yes it would be nice to have a DC coord in place by the senior bowl, but its not necessary.
Bill knows what kind of defense he wants to run, and it’ll be run that way no matter what guy Bill brings in. Its really no big deal things haven’t worked out yet.
"Permanence, perseverance and persistence in spite of all obstacles, discouragements, and impossibilities: It is this, that in all things distinguishes the strong soul from the weak." Thomas Carlyle
"If he wants to, we can throw all day," Henne said. "I love it. Put it in my hands in pressure situations."
I agree that theres no panic despite how much some folk flip out around here.
"I hope you know a lot more than you believe in"-Gram Parsons
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
by texascowpunk on Jan 15, 2010 7:18 PM EST up reply actions
lol
well…As everyone still sorting through the events of the last 24 hours, we now have a certainty. Al Groh will not be the Patriots’ new defensive coordinator.
Also:
There has been no word on whether or not Groh was actually offered a contract with the Dolphins following his interview earlier in the week.
"Permanence, perseverance and persistence in spite of all obstacles, discouragements, and impossibilities: It is this, that in all things distinguishes the strong soul from the weak." Thomas Carlyle
"If he wants to, we can throw all day," Henne said. "I love it. Put it in my hands in pressure situations."
Parcells is probably just waiting
to pluck more Cowboys coaches, but they are stalling by staying in the playoff.-)
"Permanence, perseverance and persistence in spite of all obstacles, discouragements, and impossibilities: It is this, that in all things distinguishes the strong soul from the weak." Thomas Carlyle
"If he wants to, we can throw all day," Henne said. "I love it. Put it in my hands in pressure situations."
Thats good. I always root against the Cowboys anyway but this gives me another reason.
Damn it I guess I will have root for that damn Farve.
"I hope you know a lot more than you believe in"-Gram Parsons
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
by texascowpunk on Jan 15, 2010 6:53 PM EST up reply actions
Al is his buddy....
What if he had no intention of signing the guy, there was no official “offer”? He (parcells) could have been doing Al a favor and getting him a sweeter deal with the yellowjackets…
very good point
"Permanence, perseverance and persistence in spite of all obstacles, discouragements, and impossibilities: It is this, that in all things distinguishes the strong soul from the weak." Thomas Carlyle
"If he wants to, we can throw all day," Henne said. "I love it. Put it in my hands in pressure situations."
Glad Groh didn't work out
We need a fresh aggressive face!
by MassFinFan65 on Jan 16, 2010 10:03 AM EST up reply actions
My first two choices would be Winston Moss or Vic Fangio...
I know one thing…….. team management aint gonna screw this up..!
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Hey now. No one is blowing anything around here.
"I hope you know a lot more than you believe in"-Gram Parsons
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
by texascowpunk on Jan 15, 2010 6:53 PM EST up reply actions
At least a 6 fig salary
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at least for certain, but that leaves a lot of latitude (or longitude) between bottom and top lol
was pp making the same general scratch as capers? (if anyone knows.)
No worries!
"I hope you know a lot more than you believe in"-Gram Parsons
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
by texascowpunk on Jan 15, 2010 7:50 PM EST up reply actions
Can't imagine having Bryan Cox
Walk back into Ralph Wilson stadium and onto our sideline. The fun would wear off pretty quick though. I hope we get the guy from Dallas but when it comes to the Dolphins I get real skeptical about miracles.
There's a fine line between hopeful and desperate. Just look @ Jets fans.
Imagine that
I live in the Cleveland area and didn’t realize Cox was on their coaching staff. He was one hell of a linebacker, wtf is he doing coaching d-line? I personally am dreaming of Crennel coming to Miami, he’d whip that D into shape in a hurry. I know its unlikely, but hey, a guy can dream, o wait , gotta go, Jennifer Anniston is knocking on my door.
... and she says, "Honey.... I'm home."
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Wow there are two woman named Jennifer Anniston?
"I hope you know a lot more than you believe in"-Gram Parsons
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
by texascowpunk on Jan 15, 2010 11:38 PM EST up reply actions
Why would that be hell?
"I hope you know a lot more than you believe in"-Gram Parsons
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
by texascowpunk on Jan 16, 2010 9:45 AM EST up reply actions
... she has the best ass...
Sooooo smooooth…
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Matty just another name i heard.
Dean Pees, supposibly we show interest, just check out my fanshot.
http://www.thephinsider.com/2010/1/16/1254144/phins-interested-in-dean-pees
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Draft Aaron Hernandez in the 2010 Draft.
What about Rivera?
The DC from Chicago a couple of years back, i think he is a LB Coach at San Diego now.
I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(22 years and counting)
Routing for a Jets and Ravens loss
We are going to have to wait until some playoff teams lose this weekend to have more guys to interview. Patience!
I'd like to throw in my vote for Winston Moss
Just because Winston Moss is a bad ass name and I think Green Bay has one of most properly structured 3-4 Ds around (except when they’re playing Arizona.)
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Damian Williams or Arrelious Benn in 2010!
Hmmm....
Also noted that Arizonas offense is one of those that will burn a lot of teams when it gets rolling.
"I hope you know a lot more than you believe in"-Gram Parsons
"Townes Van Zandt is the best songwriter in the whole world and I'll stand on Bob Dylan's coffee table in my cowboy boots and say that."-Steve Earle
by texascowpunk on Jan 17, 2010 10:30 AM EST up reply actions
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