WTF????????? Patriots trade Seymour to Raiders for 1st round pick in 2011 draft
So once again, the rich get richer, and the stupid make even more questionable moves. Click on the link below to read how the raiders are giving up a first round pick to the Patriots in 2011 for the rights to Richard Seymour.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2009/09/06/report-pats-shipping-richard-seymour-to-oakland/
I dont know about you all, but why would anyone in their right mind that have as many holes on the raiders make this trade? They basically let Burgess get away for a bag of peanuts, and then trade for a player who is definitely not worth a 1st round pick, to fill the same hole left by Burgess' departure? Am i missing something here? Well, just another case of the rich getting richer in my eyes. At least he will be out of our division, but on both ends it is a questionable move. What do you all think?
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i hope oakland does well this year
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by samdaman on Sep 6, 2009 11:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
can we get an amen from
the chorus.
AMEN to that my friend.
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So do you think the Jets intentionally did it to set the organization back 3 years or was it just an unintended side effect of their move.
by W NY Fins Fan on Sep 6, 2009 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
AMEN brother sam
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by PhinsTifosi on Sep 7, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
just another reason why
the patriots organization gets lucky/cheats.
think about all the draft picks theyve gotten and all the trades they got. I swear they have a deal over in oakland, they get burgess and trade seymour for a first rounder.
And does anyone remember when they got RANDY MOSS for a 4th round pick from OAK?!?!
Somebody explain that to me? Why does only one team seem to benefit from the raiders stupidity.
Somethings fishy.
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by BSerious72 on Sep 6, 2009 11:15 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So is Al Davis the top or bottom in that relationship?
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by PhinsTifosi on Sep 6, 2009 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or do he and Kraft switch back and forth?
And does Brady join them for a 3some at times?
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by PhinsTifosi on Sep 6, 2009 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Al just likes to hide in a closet and watch...LOL
Now is the time- the time to rise up from the depths of Hell and stake our claim back on top of the AFC East...Look out Gaytriots here comes Jake Long and the Phins
by FinzD54 on Sep 6, 2009 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doggie-style??
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by Alpha6 on Sep 6, 2009 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
one can only assume
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by PhinsTifosi on Sep 6, 2009 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude i cannot agree more...
How do the Raiders let Burgess walk for almost nothing? and replace him with Seymour who is oldaer, and they give up a first for him? Makes no sense at all.
Now is the time- the time to rise up from the depths of Hell and stake our claim back on top of the AFC East...Look out Gaytriots here comes Jake Long and the Phins
by FinzD54 on Sep 6, 2009 11:18 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Probably some cash swapping hands behind the cameras huh?
I wouldnt put it past BilliSHITHEAD to do some shady deals in the dark of the night.
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by MainePhinFan on Sep 6, 2009 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So they Patriots are gonna get a top 10 first round pick for broke down Richard Seymour
I F’ING hate the the rest of the league.They continue to deal their draft picks to the Patriots. WTH is it a league mandate to make the patriots better at your own detriment?!
Wow, such a stupid by Oakland but hey it is Al Davis
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by Souwantmyname on Sep 6, 2009 11:26 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Lets look at the positives fellas...
Now Penny will have as much time as he effin wants in the pocket in our two game against them. Not to mention the same thing for Delhomme, Ryan, Flacco, Schaub, and oh BREES AND MANNING
Great foresight on their part because they got great value and now are guaranteed to kepp Wilfork till he retires, but I think it will hurt them pretty hard this season.
And as for Burgess, you know why the Raiders let him walk for next to nothing? He sucks. He’s only played 3 full seasons out of nine. Yikes.
*Note to fInzd, Seymour is actually two years younger
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by Enhalen on Sep 6, 2009 11:27 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i hope your right
i hope the pats finish 3rd in the east and the raiders win the west. That way the Pats will altleast get a pick near the end of the 1st.
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by BSerious72 on Sep 6, 2009 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you for the clarification...either way, still a dumb move by the Raiders...
Now the Patriots will get another top 10 pick, and trade it, to move down and acquire more picks to build the depth on their team. Something the Raiders should learn to do.
Of course Tom Brady has to marry someone with Giz in her name. How fitting???
Where is Oronde Gadsden when we need him?
by FinzD54 on Sep 6, 2009 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great move by the Raiders
Burgess sucks and Seymour can play. Here is a question for everyone who thinks this is a bad move: If you don’t draft well, which the Raiders obviously don’t, why keep draft picks?
Another thing about the Patriots. So what if they have all of these draft picks? By all accounts this years draft is a bust. And the last couple of drafts have been average at best. Just because you have draft picks doesn’t mean that those picks will be productive players.
I say let the Patriots keep trading productive players for picks. With all those picks the last couple of years, they still can’t draft a decent RB, WR, DB, OL, or DL. They have drafted a couple of LB’s but that is about it.
by ct1361 on Sep 6, 2009 12:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Can you say MAYO, Branch, Wilfork, Samual, Mankins, Seymour, Warren,
by NESPORTS on Sep 6, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Historically, NE has had good drafts
But the last 4 (2006, 2007, 2008, 2009) have been bad. Those drafts have resulted in 2 starters (Mayo & Meriweather) and a starting K (Gostkowski). And that is out of 38 picks! They keep signing RB’s and DB’s (especially CB’s) in free agency because their draft picks can’t get on the field.
by ct1361 on Sep 6, 2009 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s a 2011 pick.
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by TEMSON on Sep 6, 2009 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ron Brace is a beast and the Phins had interest in the CB Darius Butler
I think NE got 2 future starters right there
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by Souwantmyname on Sep 6, 2009 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Patriots MO is to not resign their players on Defense
They let Samual go in FA. They just traded Seymour. After this season they will probably let Wilfork walk. But in each case they are not getting better, just cheaper. And you are right, Brace and Butler may become starters, but I am willing to bet that they won’t be as good of players as Wilfork and Samual.
by ct1361 on Sep 6, 2009 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not so sure about that. I think this move was intended to make salary room to keep Wilfork, unfortunately.
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by TEMSON on Sep 6, 2009 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
now the pats hav 2 1st round picks 4 some retired guy!!!
by finzrule on Sep 6, 2009 12:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I predict that the Fins will trade JT at the end of the season for a 2nd round pick again to the Chiefs..
If JT does not retire. I could see him going to the Chiefs, only to come back to the Dolphins and sign a one day contract to retire as a Fin.
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by dolphin341 on Sep 6, 2009 12:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Or just coming back to the Fins after retiring for another year!
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by dolphin341 on Sep 6, 2009 12:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
At least we wont have to see another stupid ass pick by Al Davis in 2011
Ted Ginn is the man.
by topspin on Sep 6, 2009 12:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
hey, i enjoy those
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by Davone_Is_BessT on Sep 6, 2009 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah! We all do!
Someone has to be the comic relief during the draft.
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by TEMSON on Sep 6, 2009 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hahaha i could not stop laughing when first they pick DHB
and then that other dude with their second pick…priceless
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by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Sep 6, 2009 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Although not taking Crabtree looks smarter day after day
But they compounded the stupidity with Bey by paying him a ridiculous amount of money utterly breaking the pay scale
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by Souwantmyname on Sep 6, 2009 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
true story
but hey, Davis woulda signed Crab to that contract, so Crab wouldn’t be having this prob…and i think Davis signing DHB is messing it up for Crab, and the Niners are smart enough to refuse to sign Crab to that big of a contract
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by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Sep 6, 2009 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe Al Davis is really a mastermind
He might get Crabtree and DHB if Crabby reenters the draft.
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by TheTealDeal on Sep 7, 2009 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The raiders are slowly but surely moving up the
“TEAMS I HATE LIST”
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by woomar on Sep 6, 2009 12:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Lol why?
They just made the pats worse
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by Enhalen on Sep 6, 2009 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Apparently the Pats will be playing more 4-3 this year
With Brace and Wilfork at DT that is close to 700 lbs. in the middle… god I hate the Pats
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by Souwantmyname on Sep 6, 2009 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The rich get richer
The Pats will get a top 5 pick that year and turn into a bunch of second round picks. Who’s Seymour’s replacement? He must have made a good impression.
by 54 on Sep 6, 2009 1:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Gentlemen (and Ladies).
Let’s focus our energies on getting Wilfork. They have a guy behind him if he asks for too much next year.
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by Tunaflipper on Sep 6, 2009 2:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm willing to overpay for Wilfork
Just so we can piss off NE like they piss us off
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by Souwantmyname on Sep 6, 2009 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep, Raiders are idiots....
but not because they gave the Pats their 2011 first draft pick. They got Seymour because Al Davis is desperate, and desperate owners/coaches are idiots, IMHO. Ever hear of Al Davis planning for the future? I haven’t, not even in the 70s.
And whoever said the Pats have not drafted well lately is correct. Other than Mayo and Merriweather (and maybe Adelius Thomas), the last four drafts have not been nearly as good as the ones they had earlier in the decade. With Pioli gone, I suspect their drafts won’t get a whole lot better. So I wouldn’t worry about the Raiders “screwing” the Dolphins. IMHO, the Pats have been screwing themselves lately.
And has anyone read this on ESPN? Pats tackles Light and Kaczur are being blamed (finally!) for not protecting Brady well enough.
by snorky on Sep 6, 2009 6:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Adelius Thomas was drafted by the Ravens in 2000.
by tdecker on Sep 6, 2009 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry. here's the link to Pats tackles dissing...
by snorky on Sep 6, 2009 6:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
An excellent find...
… looks to be a long year for the Pasties…
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by Alpha6 on Sep 6, 2009 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"This never would have happened if Al Davis was still alive!"
LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by tdecker on Sep 6, 2009 8:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Gooddamn
now the Pats are going to have a top 3 pick…glad Seymour is gone, but the Pats are prob going to use that pick next year to get someone redonckulous…and Al Davis once again shows that he has no idea what he is doing
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by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Sep 6, 2009 8:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i'm still laughing at his last hijinks, this is blantent stupidy!
why don’t we just trade him (davis), two of our fastest reciver’s. that will not make this team, for a 2010 #1 draft pick, hey maybe he bite’s. you wont win unless your in ideal!
by wild zion beaver on Sep 6, 2009 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hahahaha
no, that means we trade ginn…but Al Davis will prob go for that lol…he’ll prob trade all of his ’10 draft picks for our fastest receivers
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by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Sep 6, 2009 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone else notice the pick is in 2011 two years from now
So even Al Davis thinks his team will suck this year
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by Souwantmyname on Sep 6, 2009 9:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
he knows his team will suck every year
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by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Sep 6, 2009 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he fegured the meat & potatoes, are in next years draft. also so he actuly wants his pick next season, it maybe #1 overall which at this point is the great (TEBOW)!
but with have just said that, denver is a strong faverite to get him (Tebow)!
& “they need him more then us”!
by wild zion beaver on Sep 7, 2009 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Davis will prob pick
the third string receiver from The Citadel with his first pick lol
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by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Sep 7, 2009 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does Al Davis like getting fleeced?
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by Patssuck456 on Sep 7, 2009 11:25 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
.... did you really mean fleeced?
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by Alpha6 on Sep 7, 2009 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
STUPIFING is the term, fakelties are a brain mesurment i think (someone help me here), someone has stollen all his skiddels!
when an owner get’s to old to think corectly, & i see why the nurse need’s to change the dipper (male nurse). but how long can he make a mokery of the nfl, did i here right they just opened a glue factory. ok al let’s go for a walk next door!!!!
by wild zion beaver on Sep 7, 2009 12:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Has Seymour even showed up, yet?
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by Tunaflipper on Sep 7, 2009 6:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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