Dolphins vs Bills: Three Key Matchups
The Dolphins return home to Miami Sunday with an 0-3 record and a new starting quarterback. But this is also the first game of the season in which the Dolphins are not playing against a team that reached the playoffs last season. It's always fun when it's time to play against divisional rivals and this week's game begins a run of four divisional opponents in five games.
With that said, here are my three keys matchups for week four:
Lee Evans/Terrell Owens vs Will Allen/Sean Smith
Last game was really the first game that saw the Dolphins give up big plays to the opposing team's receivers. Vincent Jackson really hurt the Dolphins last week, catching 5 passes for 120 yards - mostly against veteran Will Allen. And let's be honest, Allen hasn't played very well this year. We all expected more from our supposed number one corner this year.
Malcom Floyd even made a big play last week as well, catching a 47 yard pass despite solid coverage from rookie corner Sean Smith. But Smith has been very good this year. He helped limit Reggie Wayne to just three receptions for 37 yards back in week two. And last week, he help shut out Chris Chambers from making any receptions against his former team. So far in 2009, it actually seems like teams are trying to stay away from throwing in Smith's direction, instead targeting Will Allen more often.
But heading to Miami on Sunday will be the best receiving duo that the Dolphins have faced so far in 2009. Terrell Owens and Lee Evans are a very dangerous tandem on the outside for Buffalo's offense - even if this season's stats don't show it. The two have only been targeted on 30 of Trent Edwards' 91 pass attempts and neither player even has over 100 yards receiving on the year. But that doesn't make the duo any less dangerous.
Terrell Owens leads the NFL in touchdown receptions since 2000 with 110 and Lee Evans has 693 career receiving yards against the Dolphins - his most against any team. And it's only a matter of time until those two get going this season. The Dolphins have got to make sure that this week isn't the week where Owens and Evans perform up to their abilities.
Dolphins offensive line vs Bills defensive line
Last week the Dolphins continued their dominance on the ground, running for 149 yards against the Chargers. For the season, the Dolphins have the third ranked rushing offense in the NFL - averaging 161 yards per game on the ground.
On the flip side, the Bills surrendered 222 yards on the ground to the Saints last week. And running the ball will be key for the Dolphins this week as Chad Henne makes his first career start.
Equally important will be Miami's ability to protect Henne when he drops back to pass. The Bills aren't exactly a great pass-rushing team. But the Dolphins offensive line hasn't been spectacular at protecting their quarterback this year, either. The seven sacks the Dolphins have surrendered is the 8th most in the league.
If the Dolphins want to move the ball on Sunday, they have got to win the battle in the trenches.
Ted Ginn vs Bills defensive backs
Like it or not, Ted Ginn is still the only explosive wide receiver the Dolphins have on their roster. And prior to his drop of the potential game-winning touchdown against the Colts in week two, Ginn was putting together a very solid second game of the season, catching 11 passes for 108 yards. But that drop seems to have started a downward spiral for Teddy.
Last week against the Chargers, Ginn was shut out from any catches - and even had two drops on back-to-back passes from Chad Henne. But Ginn still leads all Dolphins players in targets, having been thrown 27 of Miami's 94 pass attempts.
On Sunday, Ginn will go up against a depleted secondary. Buffalo's top corner, Leodis McKelvin, and starting free safety, Donte Whitner, will both miss the game due to injuries. That means that there's no excuse for Ginn to do yet another disappearing act on gameday. It's time for Ginn to start stepping up.
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It's time for a win.
Chad has to get mental, the D has to get physical, Tony has to get metaphysical, and Tuna has to get down onto the sidelines.
Armchair QB's always complete the pass and armchair coaches always pick the right players.
Yes, Larry Little is still the man.
by Tunaflipper on Sep 30, 2009 12:23 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ronnie and Ricky need to get at least 30 touches combined for us to win this game.
Stick to the original game plan. Run the ball. Waste clock and rest your defense. But most importantly, wear down the opposing defense. Make the game easier for Henne….
It’s time for our defense to step up! We have done a great job against the run. We need to do the same against the pass.
by JP 23 on Sep 30, 2009 12:37 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
That sounds like a great recipe!
Here's to hitting your head jumping off the bandwagon.
by SunDolphin on Sep 30, 2009 9:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yepper
Get them to start putting 8 in the box to stop it and then have Henne use his cannon to try and find the Ginn Family deep downfield!! OH, I just got some tingles in the “happy place”!!
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by Dragon27az on Sep 30, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If we are going down!!
Lets bring with us our div rivals!! ; )
we might win the div like SD last year lol
I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(22 years and counting)
by Aleta on Sep 30, 2009 12:48 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ya, didn't San Diego start out 0-3 not too long ago and ended up making the playoffs?
It’s not impossible. We can do it. It’s not like we haven’t before. The division will be tough to win, but I’ll just be happy with a playoff spot!
by JP 23 on Sep 30, 2009 12:56 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
They got in last year with an 8-8 record. Ridiculous, more so their division rivals
they had Kansas City and Oakland plus Denver who chocked at the end. With the way the Jets are playing and the Patriots who always find a way to win this division will probably come down to no less than a 10 or 11 win team. Mayyybe 9 but still it seems unprovable.
Our biggest enemies are ourselves though. We are starting a second year quarterback with no one to throw to along with a defense that can’t rush the passer and a secondary that couldn’t cover Chris Carter if he lined up against them. We are definitely back to rebuilding mode. So be it, we will at least get a chance to see how Henne develops. He is going to have a hard time though IMO. Lots of people here wanted Henne in this season but ironically I don’t think he really wanted that. He has no WR threat, no defense, a young O-Line and one the toughest schedule in the league. The perfect storm basically. He is in for a long season
by MauMontaV5 on Sep 30, 2009 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe a short season!!
Thigpen is breading on his neck!
I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(22 years and counting)
by Aleta on Sep 30, 2009 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How is Thigpen breathing down his Neck?
It would be one thing to say if we had been actively trying to acquire Thigpen PRE-INJURY to Pennington, but we weren’t.
He wasn’t even thought about until after the injury…..he’s here for insurance, not to be a starter.
by Fr8Train on Sep 30, 2009 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thats disgusting...
How would you like it if someone tried to breed on your neck? Thigpen is a relatively big person. Imagine not only the pressure, but the the sweat… ehhhh. :)
by Krush on Sep 30, 2009 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So..
does that mean Thigpen is trying to open his own bakery on Henne’s neck? That would definitely be some “sour-dough”! LOL. Sorry, couldnt help myself.
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by Dragon27az on Sep 30, 2009 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mau Henne will be just fine
MauMontaV5 .. while I agree with your comments about winning the division you couldn’t be more wrong about the situation that Henne is coming into. He has not 1 but 2 elite backs with Ricky and Ronnie to hand the ball off to plus a young BUT very talented O-Line that is still getting to know eachother (2 new starters this season in Grove and Thomas) and while maybe his WR are not elite I think he will be able to be just fine and while the D hasn’t looked great if you look at the overall #’s against the teams we have played its not really that bad but rather frustrating .. things will even out as the season goes on. This was going to be a tough season regardless if henne or pennignton was at QB .. I still see 6 wins for this team which IMO would be fine.
by markus_13 on Sep 30, 2009 2:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pound the Rock (c)
Pound it… pound with vigor!
… then pound some more.
by SDefee on Sep 30, 2009 1:02 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Your "pound it" kinda reminds me of this oldie but goodie...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auMrN_d_kTo
Check out the fades…. lol
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by Alpha6 on Sep 30, 2009 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pound it..
like a $5 hooker!! OOPS! Did I just say that out loud?
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by Dragon27az on Sep 30, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
... I didn't hear anything... lol
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by Alpha6 on Sep 30, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
do they make those?
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by samdaman on Sep 30, 2009 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why are you in the market for one Sam?
by texascowpunk on Sep 30, 2009 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
just wondering...
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by samdaman on Sep 30, 2009 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then Rock the pound?
I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(22 years and counting)
by Aleta on Sep 30, 2009 1:20 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Them!..
Lets star the Pounding of the Rocking with some Rocking the Pounding this Sunday!
I beleive the Bison has a big arsses to take it!!
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by Aleta on Sep 30, 2009 1:31 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If the Saints can why can't we?
If the Saints can pound the rock so can we. I see the Phins come out with a huge win for there man PENNY … this will be a great game to watch and I am excited for this sunday
by markus_13 on Sep 30, 2009 2:53 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
they have a really good
passing game which opens up the run. some coaches use the run to open up the pass. others use the pass to open up the run. however you look at it its good balence
OFFENSE- Protect the Quaterback at all costs
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by kewlguy on Sep 30, 2009 6:21 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Very good point .. don't know how i missed that lol
by markus_13 on Sep 30, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
its ok its easy to look
at stats and forget the little indiscretions of football
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by kewlguy on Sep 30, 2009 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Matty
you are correct in your assessment about the oline vs the dline, but it’s going to be more than just running the ball, which they will do since EVERYONE runs on this undersized bills defense….
it’ll be can the fins run the ball in the RED zone, and can they score TD’s….
So yeah it’ll be all about the phins red zone offense, which is terrible, against the bills red zone defense, which while bad isn’t horrible.
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by W NY Fins Fan on Sep 30, 2009 4:07 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Unfortunately, missing our MLB is the biggest reason why you’re actually kind of right. When Poz was still playing (against the Patriots) the Bills defense was very solid against the run.
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by TEMSON on Sep 30, 2009 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
EVERYONE runs on this undersized bills defense
Well, no… the Saints ran on us. But they are not “everyone.” We shut down New England (73 yards) and Tampa Bay (57); NE is perennially one of the top 6-8 rushing offenses in the league, and Tampa was coming off of a 174-yard rushing performance against their opener against Dallas.
Knowing our defense, stopping the run will be our top priority this week, because it’s not exactly a secret that you guys will try to run on us. It’ll be up to Henne to hit big plays down the field – if he can’t do that, your offense is toast, because we’ll just load the box.
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by Brian Galliford on Sep 30, 2009 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep. The Bill's game plan is on a sign for everyone to see...
I would too. Make Henne win with his arm…
But then again…. the Wildcat could be the achellis for your team… just saying…
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by Alpha6 on Sep 30, 2009 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, it wasn’t last year. Y’all ran for about 83 yards per game in two wins against us last year. The 52 you put up in the win at your house was your second-lowest total of the regular season. The 115 in the Toronto game? 8th-highest total.
Unless it’s substantially better than it was last season, I’m not losing any sleep over it. It’s a challenge, absolutely, but one Buffalo handled relatively well last season.
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by Brian Galliford on Sep 30, 2009 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Zac-lee... that's why I think the Bills will put all the pressure on Henne to make the plays...
This game may actually become an air war… which I haven’t seen in a long long time….
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by Alpha6 on Sep 30, 2009 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ha – us either. It’d be really strange to watch. :)
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by Brian Galliford on Sep 30, 2009 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
we actually are a lot better
our entire line is made up of dominant run blockers
addition of jake grove and a young healthy donald thomas
check the stats weve been able to get yards at will.
u should definitely lose sleep over it, the only way ur gonna beat us is with your offense, definitely cannot stop our run game.
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by Davone_Is_BessT on Sep 30, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I rarely lose sleep over NFL football, period, so that’s a factor. And yeah, I’ve been really impressed with your running game this season. The run D for Buffalo is a question mark after the Saints gashed it. Still, I will sleep well this week.
And you’re absolutely right when you say this:
the only way ur gonna beat us is with your offense
We’d have beaten the Saints if we had any offense, and I feel comfortable saying we’ll play a strong game and have a great chance at winning unless our offense craps the bed again.
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by Brian Galliford on Sep 30, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have a buddy who is a Saint's fan,
and he points to the Buffalo game as an indication that they actually have a defense. I point to the Buffalo game as an indication that Trent Edwards is still a little green, but close to awesome.
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by joel311 on Sep 30, 2009 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually,
the only way we will win is if Henning doesn’t have an aneurysm everytime we get to the red zone. If he keeps doing what is working until it stops working, then we’ll be fine; but if he keeps changing from what’s working for no reason, then we’ll lose yet again.
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by joel311 on Sep 30, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
guess it's just a matter of perspective
but NE rushing for 73 yards is a LOT of yards for NE… and lets be frank buffalo didn’t stop tampa from running the ball… Tampa stopped running the ball themselves… why? who knows, but they are just a BAD Football team.
and i stand by my statement, miami WILL run all over this undersized buffalo defense… it’s just a question of how well the execute in the red zone.
The Future is now, stop the bandwagon and lets get the Henne train rollin, as we all hope that the 14th dwarf is the real prince charming.
by W NY Fins Fan on Sep 30, 2009 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Patriots are a good rushing team.
73 rushing yards is half of their average from a year ago – 142 YPG. That was 6th in the league, BTW. Oh yeah… and a lot more than the Dolphins – 119 YPG. So to say that 73 yards is a lot for them is clearly incorrect.
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by MattRichWarren on Oct 3, 2009 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the shame you must have
I know when Ralph said the IOU’s will move to toronto you all thought that they were staying in the NFL, but sunday proved that they are becoming a CFL team….
and then to discover that some dumb fin fan knows more about your lowly franchise then you…
alas pour yourick….
The Future is now, stop the bandwagon and lets get the Henne train rollin, as we all hope that the 14th dwarf is the real prince charming.
by W NY Fins Fan on Oct 5, 2009 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This has got to be a win....
Henne’s getting his first career start and win…
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by Kdog92 on Sep 30, 2009 5:51 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
a verb, an article, and a noun
POUND THE ROCK
Here's to hitting your head jumping off the bandwagon.
by SunDolphin on Sep 30, 2009 9:12 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
LOL
but seriously GREAT idea and i mean GREAT idea
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by kewlguy on Sep 30, 2009 8:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This game to me comes down to which QB makes the most plays
I don’t think that the Bills defense will let the Phins pile up yardage on the ground like it has done the last two games. If I was the D coordinator for the Bills I am selling out to stop the run and forcing Henne to make plays with his arm. I would not let Brown and Williams dominate.
If I was the O coordinator for the Bills, I am passing on the Phins all day long. I would try and isolate Jackson in space on LB’s and take shots down the field against the CB’s and Safeties. The phins have proven the last two weeks that they will give up big plays in the passing game and I would like my match-ups with Evans and Owens.
So this game is simple. Which passing game makes the most plays? Hopefully Henne will step up.
by ct1361 on Sep 30, 2009 10:38 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That’s about as accurate as it gets.
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by Brian Galliford on Sep 30, 2009 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no
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by Little Nicky 21 on Sep 30, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sorry replied to the wrong comment
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by Little Nicky 21 on Sep 30, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
kittens in your eye..? ;-]
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by Alpha6 on Sep 30, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
dead kittens…
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by Little Nicky 21 on Sep 30, 2009 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thats aweful
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by samdaman on Oct 1, 2009 7:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
see if you were the coach in buffalo
then you would be correct… but we are talking dicky J here and the fact that the IOU’s are missing their secondary leads me to believe that they will play the run straight up… and DJ doesn’t gamble like that… so i expect a 100+ from ronnie and rick.
The Future is now, stop the bandwagon and lets get the Henne train rollin, as we all hope that the 14th dwarf is the real prince charming.
by W NY Fins Fan on Sep 30, 2009 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you guys wish you had John Beck at this point or no?
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Sep 30, 2009 10:43 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You can keep him
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by Patssuck456 on Sep 30, 2009 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no
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by Little Nicky 21 on Sep 30, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Instigator!!
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by Alpha6 on Sep 30, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You knew
that I was gonna be all over this one Alpha!!! LOL
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by Dragon27az on Sep 30, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I actually was not trying to talk smack at all. Was just curious to get some info. I have no problem with you guys.
You have to hate losing more than you love winning.
by Mr MaLoR on Sep 30, 2009 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only because you arent a Phinsider
I will let this one pass. I went to school with Beck back in the day and later played against him. Trust me, he is not NFL caliber material. I am gonna leave it at that……..
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by Dragon27az on Oct 1, 2009 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
we got chad henne so as of now no
but if henne sucks than ya ill be wantin him
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by Davone_Is_BessT on Sep 30, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
....
reaches back and gives Davone_Is_BessT a little taste of what Mr MaLor just got, while declaring “WHOS NEXT?!?!”
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by Dragon27az on Sep 30, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ARGH!!
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by Dragon27az on Sep 30, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
... the Dragon is on duty....
…. and will slap the bootty….!!
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by Alpha6 on Sep 30, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
Some one has to regulate around here! Heck, it is even in my signature!! You remember “Terry the Office Linebacker” commercials from Reebok years ago…just call me Terry, and this is my office!!
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by Dragon27az on Oct 1, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Didn't mean to offend you
I was just curious of how you guys felt right now. You shipped out your 2nd round pick from only 3 years ago without giving him a huge chance. But he must have shown you something that didn’t make him a starter, which is why he is our 3rd string right now.
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by Mr MaLoR on Sep 30, 2009 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lolol
I’m not missing Beck whatsoever, and I was on his bandwagon going into last year’s preseason. If he ever starts, he will hold the record for most fumbled snaps in the NFL. The kid just can’t calm his nerves.
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by joel311 on Sep 30, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no, but i want eric green
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by samdaman on Sep 30, 2009 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
to shine your shoes?
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by Dragon27az on Oct 1, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We need to help Henne
By giving him good OL play and good running, we need him to be part of a win hopefully but we can’t expect him to win it for us.
Most important, protection is key. Remember what happened to Beck? regardless of how good he was or wasn’t, the guy has nightmares of how poor our OL played (and hence why Long, not Ryan, was the right choice for us).
I expect Buffalo to play with 8 men in the box all game and also to blitz on passing downs to pressure the “rookie”, so running in different ways (including Wildcat, always keep them confused whats coming next), and using play actions on 2nd downs more, plus the odd deep ball in single coverage, are all key.
I actually hope they blitz us alot to prepare Henne for the nightmarish Jets defense, who will blitz ALL the time in week 5!
Go Fin, we really need to win this game
by MoLimits on Sep 30, 2009 10:44 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
QB Craziness.....
OMG, Henne didn’t win a Superbowl in his 2 quarters of play….put Pat White in!
Wait, we added Thigpen…..he’s breathing down Henne’s Neck…. Put Thigpen In!
Wait, Thigpen stubbed his toe in the weight room……he’s injury prone….. draft a QB!
Wait, we drafted a QB, but I saw this kid in Pop Warner run over people…we need to sign him!
Wait…..My unborn child wants to play QB….we need him! He’s breathing down their neck…
Can we just calm down already?
by Fr8Train on Sep 30, 2009 11:12 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This is Miami
we looove backups
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by Little Nicky 21 on Sep 30, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is Miami,
We were spoiled with Marino and will not settle until we find his equivalent again.
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by joel311 on Sep 30, 2009 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
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by kewlguy on Sep 30, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't argue with that.
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by Fr8Train on Sep 30, 2009 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well we had better change our expectations because we will never see the
equivalent of Marino again. I just need a guy that can win games. I guess lucky for me I can still remember Bob G. playing. Not what you call a superstar QB but he got the job done for a long time.
by texascowpunk on Sep 30, 2009 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well i guess that's because
the last 14 starters have all been essentially backups…
The Future is now, stop the bandwagon and lets get the Henne train rollin, as we all hope that the 14th dwarf is the real prince charming.
by W NY Fins Fan on Sep 30, 2009 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ooops
last 13 starters… i hope the 14th is the first real QB since shula started one.
The Future is now, stop the bandwagon and lets get the Henne train rollin, as we all hope that the 14th dwarf is the real prince charming.
by W NY Fins Fan on Sep 30, 2009 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no kidding
I believe the only guys we’ve had who came here as former starters were Culpepper (ugh) and Pennington. Correct me if I’m wrong, but we’ve always had other teams backups and cast-offs…
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by Little Nicky 21 on Sep 30, 2009 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well when
penne came to the fins he was the backup, but yes earlier in his career he was a starter… So you may be correct in your assessment that Pep was the only starter….
but my point was that even when they started for the dolphins, their talent level would have made them back ups on most playoff teams…
The Future is now, stop the bandwagon and lets get the Henne train rollin, as we all hope that the 14th dwarf is the real prince charming.
by W NY Fins Fan on Oct 1, 2009 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah can't argue with that
they were backups before, and should’ve been backups while here lol
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by Little Nicky 21 on Oct 1, 2009 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lmao
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by Davone_Is_BessT on Sep 30, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ha
I havent attempted a pass in like 10 years…
Wait, throw me in there! LOL
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by Dragon27az on Sep 30, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
so true weve had many QBs in the past few years and fans have their favs
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by kewlguy on Sep 30, 2009 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wait
Marino feels bad and is coming out of retirement
Now thats funny Fr8Train and oh so true
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by FinfanT on Sep 30, 2009 11:53 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
GINN Vs. HIMSELF
Ginn is sucking every game, I hope you prove me wrong ginn, I really wish the best for you but I have been really dissapointed in your hands. I am praying for wins from here on out with Henne, Please defense lets pick 6 to help our offense out.
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by B1G SaMoAn TuNa on Sep 30, 2009 1:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
My prayer is said...
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by Alpha6 on Sep 30, 2009 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
just saw that on yahoo...
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by unklphinnie on Sep 30, 2009 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wish he
could explode after the catch the way Desean Jackson does. Then no matter what Qb is under center every play could be a TD. Think of the posibilities.
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by kewlguy on Sep 30, 2009 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe he will, if Henne gets the ball to him quickly...
which is very likely. The question is if Henne can get it there quickly, and accurately.
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by joel311 on Sep 30, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Henne vs. Perry Fewell (Bills D-coordinator)
I’m sure our staff will do their best to put Henne in the best position and try to keep him out of tough spots.
However, the Bills will certainly press for the opposite scenario and put the game in Henne’s hands as much as possible. That means 8, maybe 9 man fronts to bottle up Ricky & Ronnie.
And at some point, Chad Henne is going to have to make a play – it could be just converting a third down even – and that’s where I think Miami’s fortunes hinge upon.
If Henne can make some plays, then we have every chance to win this game. Conversely, if he makes key errors and/or turns over the ball, then I don’t think we’ll have a shot to win.
The Bill’s O doesn’t really scare me but right now, our offense is an even bigger question mark with Henne at the controls.
by Natalya on Sep 30, 2009 1:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sean Smith on TO
Vontae Davis on Lee Evans… let WA chase Parrish around underneath.
We need to start this game in a nickel, because BUF’s no huddle won’t allow us to get subs in. Will Allen scares the crap outta me right now, and Lee Evans usually KILLS us, so that matchup is a recipe for disaster, especially if the safeties are focusing on TO’s side. I think Clemons needs to be on the field because his speed will help us over the top, and I think Vontae needs to be in, he’s physical as hell, and he can probably knock Evans off his route more times than not. Finally, though, no superstar TE to worry about.
On offense, we need to control the ball with the running game. I don’t care if Buffalo puts 9 in the box, we HAVE to be able to run the ball, because we need to let our defense rest. On top of that, and more importantly, we need to turn long drives into TD’s. 8 minutes of possession does no good if you fumble it away or end up with a FG. Use the Wildcat to DEATH, right now it’s our most successful offensive set, and it’ll allow us to move the ball down the field without relying on Henne to get it done. When he’s in there, allow him to let a few go off of play action (and please, run tons of play action). One deep completion is usually all it takes for a QB to settle in.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Sep 30, 2009 2:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
seriously
Is is just me or is ol’ reliable WA dogging it this year? Guys cashes in on a nice little extension and now he falls down on every play….is the weight of his fat wallet throwing off his balance or what? PUT ME IN COACH!!
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by Dragon27az on Sep 30, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
W.Allen is a classy veteran who would never dog it. His extention was mostly in part to remain our starter this year while grooming 2 young talented CB’s who had shown plenty of in OTA’s and TC .
Ahving said that, I agree with Nicky – use Allen on Parish and start the rookie CB’s against Evans and Owens. As for Clemons, he hasn’t even been on the active roster yet so he ahs no chance of getting in.
by crossborderFISHingtrip on Sep 30, 2009 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Big difference between 'dogging it' and just mental lapses and poor decisions...
I think of Will Allen as a pretty professional guy.
He’s made some mistakes and gotten beaten, but it hardly looks to me like he’s just going through the motions.
by Natalya on Sep 30, 2009 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah I don't think he's dogging it
I just think he’s lost a step, and he can’t make up the distance anymore. Trying to stay with guys that are just better athletes at this point in their careers is probably contributing to him falling over.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Sep 30, 2009 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My bad
bad use of wording….didn’t mean dogging it as in no efforts, shoulda said stinking up the joint. Never said the dude wasnt classy….but he seems a little more reluctant to stick his nose into things like he did in years passed. I see him every game on Sunday ticket, just what I have noticed in comparison to last year.
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by Dragon27az on Oct 1, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
let WA chase Parrish around underneath.
You probably mean Josh Reed since Parrish is our 4th WR.
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by MattRichWarren on Oct 3, 2009 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
open it up
Let CH throw it deep and often. The bills arent expecting that from our offense. Take the chanis off early, and let Henne get some confidence.
by ecks on Sep 30, 2009 2:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
nice idea
run the ball. Then PA to Ginn or Turner (if he can play ST which is the only way he’ll be activated) deep
The good ole Run ’n Gun technique
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by kewlguy on Sep 30, 2009 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes
Play Action all game. Give Henne some extra time (PA usually freezes the line and any blitzers) and let him get a good read at the secondary.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Sep 30, 2009 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As well as we run the ball
we should be able to exploit the hell out of defenses with playaction.
by texascowpunk on Sep 30, 2009 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is anyone else ready to start vontae opposite sean smith...
I’ve seen all three games this season and will Allen looks bad! He can’t cover and he’s getting penalties called on him! He looks ok tackling though! What do you guys think?
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by GEtSICK13 on Sep 30, 2009 3:16 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
YES.
We have great corners, I don’t understand why we aren’t in the Nickel all the effing time.
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by joel311 on Sep 30, 2009 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The nickel isnt great against the run
but these last two games i would agree with you
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by kewlguy on Sep 30, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Normally,
no, but the way our D-Linemen have destroyed the run, coupled with the fact that our Safeties are run stopping safeties, I think Nickel is our best bet.
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by joel311 on Sep 30, 2009 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
To me our base would be best for the next game
The bills have a dangerous RB and a QB that is inconsistant at best
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by kewlguy on Sep 30, 2009 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with that
Get a guy like Akin off the field, let Crowder play in the middle for the inside runs, and walk Yeremiah or Gibril up into the box. We still get our 7 tacklers in the box, but have an extra cover guy as well. With the safeties we have, I’m more comfortable with Vontae on a WR, and Akin on the sideline..
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by Little Nicky 21 on Sep 30, 2009 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
good idea, nick
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by samdaman on Oct 1, 2009 7:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
good idea, nick
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by samdaman on Oct 1, 2009 7:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dont trade Brown
That simple in my mind
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by kewlguy on Sep 30, 2009 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is anyone else scared of Lynch?
He is just about to start his first game of the season. He is a dangerous back and has fresh wheels. This will cause the safeties to bite more and let us get beat deep
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by kewlguy on Sep 30, 2009 8:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The way to shut down T.O
we just get some reporters to guard him and keep asking him about the plays that are being called…
by DaPhinsBallin on Sep 30, 2009 9:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
lol
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by Little Nicky 21 on Sep 30, 2009 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
dolphins rule, bills drool, lets kick ass
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by samdaman on Sep 30, 2009 9:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I have hear this all year long..
“On Sunday, Ginn will go up against a depleted secondary.”
U will see how this secondary is gona rap up a couple of ints lol and shoot down or WRs
Every time we spot a weakness on another team D, we got crush by that same weakness. Atlanta come to mind! Smaller D line and bad secondary.
I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(22 years and counting)
by Aleta on Oct 1, 2009 9:02 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Tough Situation
This team is in a tough spot, and not only for this week.
1. This Bills team has 2 excellent outside recievers and Josh Reed is a great slot reciever. As much as I love the Fins, I fully expect Buffalo to put up 30 points. We haven’t shown that we can stop teams with 2 “big play guys” (White and Gonzo., Wayne and Clark, Jackson and Gates) let alone 3 dangerous recievers…and that doesn’t even take into account the ability of Roscoe Parrish taking a 3 yard slant on 3 and 5 for 70 yards……
2. Clock control, resting the defense, running the ball, blah, blah, blah has not and does not meant SQUAT if you can’t get in the endzone. We can control the ball for 59:45 and have a guy like Peyton Manning beat us in 15 seconds if we don’t get IN THE ENDZONE. We MUST score 24 points to give ourselves a chance and let the defence play a little more loose…they can’t feel like they have to play PERFECT all of the time.
3. Chad Pennington did more for our team last year that perhaps any player outside Marino has ever done…he gave the team it’s respect back. I realize it wasn’t ALL him, but he was the figurehead and leader of an 11-5 team that was 1-15 the year before. He should have been MVP. It’s sad to see a player of his stature not get to leave on his own terms but in a way, it’s kind of nice that the coaching staff doesn’t have to “sit him down” after a couple more games to get a look at Henne.
4. Is this a good time to get a look at Henne? What if he struggles? If he plays poorly ove the remaining 13 games, is it fair to form opinions about him moving forward? We can all agree that this recieving corps doesn’t scare anybody. People were quick to complain about Pennington’s arm strength but we all saw him lay a 30-40 yard pass to win the game in Ted Ginn’s hands on Monday Night Football. We also saw Ginn and Fasano drop 20-30 yard throws in the endzone before that. If these guys can’t catch passes from a “weak” armed quarterback, how are they going to hold on to hard throws? The only way we will know anything about Henne is if he goes out there and lights the place up, which I really don’t see happening. Henne should have sat this year too, giving us a chance to aquire a proven WR threat (Anquan Boldin, Brandon Marshall type) as well as adding some young talent in the draft. The best case scenario I see for this year is if Fasano could regain the form he showed last year, he could be a nice security blanket for Henne on some play action throws.
5. I hate sounding so negative, because I see a lot of positive signs for this team in years to come. Parcells and co. added good talent on the defensive side of the ball last year and this year is looking good as well. I look for us to be a very good team 2 years form now…when NEXT years draft of offensive playmakers has had some time to mature and these past 2 drafts have some Pro-Bowl calibre defenders.
by ogascadan on Oct 1, 2009 10:23 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
well you can say the IOU's have
some good receivers… i’d say that is debatable, but the real issue is that they have a terrible offensive line, most of which was self inflicted… they are young and some day they may become a good line, but right now they can’t block anyone and edwards just doesnt’ have the time (other then against the bucs) to get the ball to his WR… hence he’s becking (the condition of dumping the ball off ASAP for fear of one’s own health) the ball… to the backs and TE….
The Future is now, stop the bandwagon and lets get the Henne train rollin, as we all hope that the 14th dwarf is the real prince charming.
by W NY Fins Fan on Oct 1, 2009 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Smith and Davis
Miami should try starting both. It couldnt hurt them worse than they are. Allen makes some good plays but he gets burnt way more!
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