Dolphins at Saints: What to watch for
A lot of casual football fans feel that the preseason is meaningless. These same fans probably feel like the fourth preseason game is a total waste of time and not worth watching. But these fans aren't the kind of diehard football fans that we all are. And they are certainly not Dolphin fans. Why? Because Dolphin fans know that this fourth preseason is indeed worth watching. There are a number of things to focus on tonight when the Dolphins head to New Orleans to face the Saints to close out their preseason.
Below are just some of the storylines to watch.
THE ROSTER BATTLES
One of the things I love about the fourth preseason game is how those "roster bubble players" get a lot of playing time. These are the guys fighting not just for the win but for their own jobs. And nothing will motivate you more in life than the risk of being out of work. Sure, football is just a game. But to these "bubble" guys, it's their livelihood. Therefore, I've always enjoyed watching the final preseason games - and I'm not just talking about the Dolphins' final game. There's nothing like watching players compete with their own teammates to be the 52nd or 53rd player on the roster.
Since I posted a longer article focusing in on the key battles that remain yesterday - and you can view it by clicking here - I won't get into it too deep here. I will say, though, that I'm most interested in two battles. Being the Jersey guy I am, I'm very much pulling for John Nalbone to make the team over Joey Haynos. To his advantage, Nalbone is a very good blocker and is also a special teams contributor. He has two special teams tackles in three preseason games. Haynos, on the other hand, is a massive guy (6'8, 270). But I think that hinders him on special teams. I'm not so sure a guy his size can run down the field and cover a kick as well as others can - and that could hurt him.
The other battle I'm interested in is between Lex Hilliard and Brandon London. I'm fully confident that both will not make the team but am fairly certain that one will. The contract extension handed out to Ricky Williams could be a factor here. With Ricky and Patrick Cobbs signed for 2010, Hilliard would again be, at best, a fourth running back in 2010 if he was to stick around that long. He is practice squad eligible, but if the Dolphins like Lex enough, it would be a risky move to try and sneak him through waivers. Meanwhile, London is not eligible for the practice squad and is probably the better special teamer of the two. But he hasn't impressed as a receiver as much as he should have thus far.
CAN HENNE BOUNCE BACK?
If you have at least one good eye, then you can't argue that Chad Henne's performance last week against Tampa Bay was pretty bad. And I was one of the most critical of Henne - that I'm aware of. But that doesn't mean I'm rooting against him - which is why I'm very interested in seeing how Henne performs tonight. It's expected that Henne will play the second and third quarters. Yes, that means he'll face backup defenders pretty much exclusively. But that doesn't change anything to me. If anything, it actually adds more pressure on Henne. A bad performance against New Orleans' backups would make Henne get scrutinized even more. What I hope to see are more accurate throws, quicker reads, and better decision making. I'm not looking for some big performance, just an improvement - just something that shows he can bounce back off of a very poor outing.
Henne knows he has to improve and is putting pressure on himself to have a much better game against New Orleans as well. "It wasn't me out there, says Henne. "I don't want to have a game like that again." I can't wait to find out how he responds.
STARTERS WILL PLAY
While most NFL teams will rest their starters in their final preseason game, Tony Sparano is taking a different approach. Chad Pennington is expected to play the first quarter and the starting offensive line will probably play at least the first half. Why? Simple - to get better.
This is where Sparano and most other head coaches differ. Coming off of a sub-par offensive performance last week, Sparano is sending out his starting offense tonight so they can at least get in some work and build some confidence for their season opener against Atlanta. I hope to see the starting offense get into a rhythm out there and make some plays. We can't have two or three 3-and-outs to start the game like we did last week.
Meanwhile, Sparano - a former OL coach - has always been a believer in getting your starting offensive line extensive playing time in the preseason to help them gel. This unit is no different. It has a lot of talent - but has to work together and become a cohesive unit. Last preseason, the starting offensive line played the entire first half of the finale. I expect to see the same thing tonight. After all, the more this unit works together in real game situations, the better off they will be in the long run.
QUICK HITS
Here are some more things to look for tonight:
- A lot of attention will be paid to the battle for the starting WR spot. But the reason I didn't bring it up above is because I'm fairly confident that whoever actually wins the starting job isn't necessarily going to be more important to the offense than the other two. The Dolphins did a great job of rotating their receivers based on the situation last season and I foresee that happening again in 2009.
- The outside linebacker position is an interesting one to keep an eye on. Matt Roth will likely land on the PUP list, so he has no relevance to this discussion. Joey Porter, Jason Taylor, and Cameron Wake are obviously locks. But then you got guys like Charlie Anderson, Quentin Moses, and Erik Walden all hoping to stick on the 53-man roster. Will the Dolphins keep 6 outside linebackers? Those three are probably hoping. But if the Dolphins only keep five, which one turns out to be the odd man out? Moses has been the most impressive of the three. But Anderson and Walden are the better special teams players.
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I still think cammy will have his work cut out for him
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 3, 2009 12:23 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
and I hope London gets a chance to play at WR for an extended time this game.
I honestly haven’t seen much of him lining up there in the past few games.
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 3, 2009 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
im really hoping our o-line "gels"
season is depending on it
"Life's a bi*ch but god forbid the bi*ch divorce me"- Nas
"They ask me what I'm writin' for; I'm writin' to show you what we fightin' for"- Talib Kweli
by Davone_Is_BessT on Sep 3, 2009 12:24 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
agreed
but honestly, i am not worried about it.
i am VERY confident that they are better than last year, and they weren’t bad last year.
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 3, 2009 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would agree about Thomas being an upgrade
But I have not seen much out of Smiley and Grove. Smiley does not look the same to me this year as he did at this same point in the preseason last year. I wonder if he is fully recovered from his season ending injury from ’08?
Grove, IMO, has been a major disappointment so far. I don’t like what I have seen from him so far. My eyes are telling me right now that he is not the improvement over Satele that we were hoping for.
by ct1361 on Sep 3, 2009 10:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Has anyone heard the report that the Eagles are shopping both Hank Baskett and Reggie Brown?What do you guys think? Should we pursue one or both of these guys? How much better would they make our recieving core?
Personally, I’d like Hank Baskett on our squad so I can see some more of his wife Kendra. :)
by JP 23 on Sep 3, 2009 12:46 AM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
lol
Can't wait untill Sean Smith puts Randy Moss on his ass lol, Co-Vice President of the official Matty I fan club.
by jojo phin fan on Sep 3, 2009 1:21 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
There's no need to trade for them they will be on waivers very soon
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Sep 3, 2009 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Henne better light it up tonigh!!
He will be with the starting OL and a 2nd D unit.
I dont want to be mean, but Henne better play a LOT better, with atleast 2 TD’s without Ints and 200 yds
About the OLB, we r really good in that deparment, no worries there.
I like London and Hilliard, but i like more London thatn Hilliard, cause a RB is more easy to find
I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(22 years and counting)
by Aleta on Sep 3, 2009 1:24 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah I felt the same way about hilliard
the guy looks good but there’s the big concern about his fumbles. Wouldn’t it just be easier to draft a good one? We’ve had 2 in 2nd round and later picks the last couple years, even though we are full.
by metalhead86 on Sep 3, 2009 1:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No talent wide receivers are equally easy to find
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Sep 3, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL!
zing
"check that...the 29th of Feb. this year.....why is that the record day for hits? Did Matty have the Kim Kardashian sex tape or something?"
-Treat
"yes he did. and Jersquall recut it to look like Marino was boning her."
-Treasure
by chrislucas on Sep 3, 2009 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I beleivfe that London is a GREAT contributor on ST
plus he still have an upside as WR. Dont c the no talent comment fit into this. ??
I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(22 years and counting)
by Aleta on Sep 3, 2009 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
me neither
"Life's a bi*ch but god forbid the bi*ch divorce me"- Nas
"They ask me what I'm writin' for; I'm writin' to show you what we fightin' for"- Talib Kweli
by Davone_Is_BessT on Sep 3, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he had talent,
don’t you think he’d have more than 3 catches in 2 years in the NFL?
by luvs2drnk on Sep 3, 2009 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
difference between talent and productivity
he has the raw “talent” to become a great reciever… will he pan out? idk but i think its worth the risk of a roster spot.
"Life's a bi*ch but god forbid the bi*ch divorce me"- Nas
"They ask me what I'm writin' for; I'm writin' to show you what we fightin' for"- Talib Kweli
by Davone_Is_BessT on Sep 3, 2009 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well how long do you exactly plan on waiting,
for this talent to finally turn into productivity? It’s his 3rd year in the league. I’d say it’s about time he started showing some true potential to get himself on the field more. It’s not like he’s been on teams with deep WR corps keeping him off the field. Dolphins and Giants? Two teams who come up in every conversation about a good WR on the market. And I don’t think he’s got Steve Tasker ST skills to warrant playing his entire career as a gunner.
by luvs2drnk on Sep 3, 2009 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
some are late bloomers
u cant let a guy with that much potential just slip away. and its not like hes “wasting” a spot on the roster. he contributes on ST, its an added bonus, not the reason hes here.
"Life's a bi*ch but god forbid the bi*ch divorce me"- Nas
"They ask me what I'm writin' for; I'm writin' to show you what we fightin' for"- Talib Kweli
by Davone_Is_BessT on Sep 3, 2009 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cecil Collins, Randall Hill, and Yatil Green all had potential too.
Potential doesn’t mean squat if they don’t start producing sooner or later. And IMO, 3 years is that benchmark. Welker was a rookie when we got him from SD. He didn’t take 3 years to develop.
by luvs2drnk on Sep 3, 2009 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
um ya welker didnt have any stats till his 3rd year in the league...
"Life's a bi*ch but god forbid the bi*ch divorce me"- Nas
"They ask me what I'm writin' for; I'm writin' to show you what we fightin' for"- Talib Kweli
by Davone_Is_BessT on Sep 3, 2009 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
nvm 2nd year
but ya welker is a different type of player
"Life's a bi*ch but god forbid the bi*ch divorce me"- Nas
"They ask me what I'm writin' for; I'm writin' to show you what we fightin' for"- Talib Kweli
by Davone_Is_BessT on Sep 3, 2009 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that different type is talented.
by luvs2drnk on Sep 3, 2009 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and lol dont interrupt our argument
was funny tho lol
"Life's a bi*ch but god forbid the bi*ch divorce me"- Nas
"They ask me what I'm writin' for; I'm writin' to show you what we fightin' for"- Talib Kweli
by Davone_Is_BessT on Sep 3, 2009 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
watch the first video
youll see what im talkin about
http://www.thephinsider.com/2009/3/14/796452/video-time-brandon-london
"Life's a bi*ch but god forbid the bi*ch divorce me"- Nas
"They ask me what I'm writin' for; I'm writin' to show you what we fightin' for"- Talib Kweli
by Davone_Is_BessT on Sep 3, 2009 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're going to throw up a highlight reel?
Unfortunately I can’t watch it here. But how good he performs one on one means nothing since he can’t seem to do the same thing in a game. And one catch, in one game, a superstar does not it make. Just ask David Tyree, who’s 6 game injury MAY have saved his job. All I’m saying is if he has this talent you claim he has, then explain to me why he can’t seem to get on the field the past two years enough to catch more than 3 passes.
by luvs2drnk on Sep 3, 2009 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i never called him a superstar
i think he can be a good receiver… the reason he has not been on the field because we have had receivers that have been more consistent than him. ill give him one more year, make or break. good receivers with his combination of size, speed, and athleticism are rare… u CANT just let a guy like that slip away.
"Life's a bi*ch but god forbid the bi*ch divorce me"- Nas
"They ask me what I'm writin' for; I'm writin' to show you what we fightin' for"- Talib Kweli
by Davone_Is_BessT on Sep 3, 2009 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You just summed it up right there...
We had receivers more consistent than he was. Which is pretty sad when you think about it. Bess, Camarillo, and Ginn? It’s not like he was competing against pro bowlers. Hell, even Derek Hagan had 3 catches last year, in only 4 games!! London had 14 games, with one start!!
by luvs2drnk on Sep 3, 2009 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
um ya it shows 14 games because
he played ST,
number of times he actually went on the field on offense, the 3 catches is bad but not horrendous.
good debate though… respect ur opinion =D
who would u rather keep than london?
"Life's a bi*ch but god forbid the bi*ch divorce me"- Nas
"They ask me what I'm writin' for; I'm writin' to show you what we fightin' for"- Talib Kweli
by Davone_Is_BessT on Sep 3, 2009 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was hoping Armstrong would step up..
But right now, it seems like they’re leaning towards maybe an extra LB or DB for the spot some of us thought would go to a 6th WR or 4th RB.
by luvs2drnk on Sep 3, 2009 7:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just come into my mind..
Welker, who was in SD and was left out. Look how that turn out.
I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(22 years and counting)
by Aleta on Sep 3, 2009 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Henne ??
I’m trying to be fair – CH07 did not have the first string OL out there against Tampa, and he had a bunch of Bubble Dudes to work with. Could he have done better ?? HELL YEAH !! So let’s show some levity or whatever you want to call it !!
Otherwise why not start the Chant Now for Tim Tebow in April 2010 !! Draft him and trade Henne & White !!
Lets Kick Butt Dolphins!!
by BurlyDude72 on Sep 3, 2009 1:57 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Because
I would be a better NFL quarterback than Tim Tebow, and I’m 5’5"/147 with no experience playing organized football.
We're all goin' down to the creek tonight; it's gonna be a gas! You're comin', right?
by Dave.Phuller on Sep 3, 2009 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dumbest. Post. Ever.
You’ll be eating those words come next year
"The tradition argument is what has-been's use when they've got nothing left currently to brag about. You can drag out all the numbers you want. Those banners in your stadium don't pass, catch or play defense."
-RIP FSU Football
by krempmasterflash on Sep 3, 2009 12:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
lol yeah really
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Winner of Four 2008/2009 Matty Awards
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by Little Nicky 21 on Sep 3, 2009 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I see Tebow just being another Jay Fiedler,
lots of heart, little talent.
by luvs2drnk on Sep 3, 2009 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
...Ah..... that explains why that girl on his arm is just a friend.........
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by Alpha6 on Sep 3, 2009 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
another Jay Fiedler?
The kid has twice his talent. I think he is more comparable to Bernie Kosar. No one thought he would succeed anywhere he went (Gerry Faust decided to not recruit him because of his horrible throwing motion) because of bad mechanics. Walked away a pro bowler and a succesful pro quarterback after playing for the unluckiest pro franchise in the nfl.
"The tradition argument is what has-been's use when they've got nothing left currently to brag about. You can drag out all the numbers you want. Those banners in your stadium don't pass, catch or play defense."
-RIP FSU Football
by krempmasterflash on Sep 3, 2009 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
go fiedler!
Self-proclaimed president of the Pat White and Brian Hartline fan club.
No hating on Jay Fiedler, please.
Official LOL'er.
by samdaman on Sep 3, 2009 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They actually had almost identical passing stats in college.
Tebow has more TD’s, Fiedler had more passing yards in 3 years. How can you compare Tebow to Kosar, one of the most immobile QBs ever (265 yds rushing in 12 years)? Not to mention, Kosar was a true QB.
by luvs2drnk on Sep 3, 2009 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and fiedler played in the Ivies
while Tebow is putting up those numbers in the best conference in college football. And I was comparing him with Kosar because of their “unorthodox” throwing motions.
"The tradition argument is what has-been's use when they've got nothing left currently to brag about. You can drag out all the numbers you want. Those banners in your stadium don't pass, catch or play defense."
-RIP FSU Football
by krempmasterflash on Sep 3, 2009 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And tebow has only been a starter for two years
compare his projected three years as a starter stats vs. fiedlers and its not even close.
"The tradition argument is what has-been's use when they've got nothing left currently to brag about. You can drag out all the numbers you want. Those banners in your stadium don't pass, catch or play defense."
-RIP FSU Football
by krempmasterflash on Sep 3, 2009 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
bernie kosar?
did he ever succeed?
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 3, 2009 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unfortunately playing for the Browns did him no favors.
But he had a respectable career. 59% comp., 23000 yds, 124/87 TD/INT, 81 QB rating in 13 years.
by luvs2drnk on Sep 3, 2009 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
not to include his National Championship in college
plus a few other miami passing records
"The tradition argument is what has-been's use when they've got nothing left currently to brag about. You can drag out all the numbers you want. Those banners in your stadium don't pass, catch or play defense."
-RIP FSU Football
by krempmasterflash on Sep 3, 2009 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Greg Camarillo ??
Has there been any mention whatsoever about maybe Greg making the PUP list just like Roth ?? That was a great catch the other night for 50 + yards, but he was dragging adzzz and did not look like himself – pre-injury !!
Give Greg 6 weeks to recover and get 100% again before either London or Hilliard get sent packing. If any of our RBs or FB go down, “Who You Gonna Call” ??
Lets Kick Butt Dolphins!!
by BurlyDude72 on Sep 3, 2009 2:03 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
im sure ur sick of saying that
Self-proclaimed president of the Pat White and Brian Hartline fan club.
No hating on Jay Fiedler, please.
by samdaman on Sep 3, 2009 7:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And this is probably
one of the factors that keeps London around over Lex
Miami Dolphins 2008 AFC East Divison Champions
"I likem me some UDFAs"
by Phintastic on Sep 3, 2009 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh sure he is
all he has to do is have another injury or have ‘soreness’ from the existing one…
that’s not going to happen and he’ll be on the 53 but i’m sure that there have been some PUP injuries that
have occured in the NFL that were (cough, cough) a little borderline.
Chad Pennington - The Lame Ducker aka the progress stopper.
So do you think the Jets intentionally did it to set the organization back 3 years or was it just an unintended side effect of their move.
by W NY Fins Fan on Sep 4, 2009 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no
to get put on the PUP, you can’t begin training camp on the active roster. That’s how the PUP list works.
by Matty I on Sep 4, 2009 2:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i can see u fuming at the computer
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No hating on Jay Fiedler, please.
Official LOL'er.
by samdaman on Sep 4, 2009 7:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL!!!!!!!!
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by Alpha6 on Sep 4, 2009 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Things that better happen tonight:
O-line needs to move the pile AND pass protect. Two Jakes, that was for you.
D-line needs to pressure the passer.
Henne needs a perfect outing.
Hilliard needs to protect the ball.
Cammy needs a good outing as does Turner.
We all need to come out of it injury-free.
Wide right again! Another graduate of the Norwood school for problematic kickers.....
by PhearThePhinzz on Sep 3, 2009 7:12 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Matty just busting your balls but
- shouldn’t this be" these fans aren’t the kind of fans" instead of “are the kind”
by D0lphins4Life on Sep 3, 2009 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes, it should say that
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 3, 2009 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
New Orleans bound to check out the game tonight.
Don’t get too many chances to watch the Dolphins up here in North West Florida. Closest place is Orleans. Friend gave me some suite tickets. Hopping on I-10 shortly heading that way. Tonight we’ll be enjoying adult beverages and watching my Dolphins. Today is going to be a great day.
Go Phins!
My responsibility is leadership, and the minute I get negative, that is going to have an influence on my team.
-- Don Shula
The secret to winning is constant, consistent management.
GK
by Pensacola Phinster on Sep 3, 2009 10:17 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm intrested to see how Hartline does
Current Phinsider Feud Points: 23
by Patssuck456 on Sep 3, 2009 11:09 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hartline has me impressed
Everytime a ball is thrown in his direction. I think he’ll end up # 2 within the next year
by PhinsFan69 on Sep 3, 2009 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
harline=Rookie of year
maybe tie pat white
Self-proclaimed president of the Pat White and Brian Hartline fan club.
No hating on Jay Fiedler, please.
by samdaman on Sep 3, 2009 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i like your optimism lol
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Sep 3, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
will White see action?
I know he isn’t battling for a starting position, but I was a lil dissapointed last week when they didnt throw him in after henne took a beating.
by westcoastdolphin on Sep 3, 2009 11:15 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Henne needs to work more than White
if the phins need White to drop back and throw the football this season we are in trouble
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Sep 3, 2009 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Help me out!?
I’m trying to figure out where the game will be on? I’m in orlando so i dont think it will be on cable, but will it air on NFL Network or anywhere? I’m thinking i can catch it at an Ale House or Buff Wild Wings
Laces out!
-2008 AFC East Champions-
Suck it Pats, Bills and most of all... the god damn jets.
Supporter of the Bash Brothers- Wilson and Bell.
by BSerious72 on Sep 3, 2009 11:25 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
nfl network allways has replays
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No hating on Jay Fiedler, please.
by samdaman on Sep 3, 2009 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Serious???
Your in Orlando? Cool…so am I…Looking forward to my big screen HD and NFL sunday ticket in the next couple of weeks…till then im stuck with crappy broadcast that SUCKS!!!! if you find out where its showing let me know ok?
thanks dude!
by unklphinnie on Sep 3, 2009 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
NFL Network on Friday at 1 pm eastern
by Matty I on Sep 3, 2009 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
cool
got nfl network on my sprint phone…have to watch it in the crapper at work! LOL
thanks matty
by unklphinnie on Sep 3, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Orlando native as well
I have brighthouse cable and I actually found the game being aired on WRBW-My 65 @ 12:00 AM.. Its at a crazy time but I’m gonna record it on my dvr. Hope this helps
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Sep 3, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sweet!
I got an old VCR and I can actually get My65 I got that digital transition box and a $60 antenna and I cant get Fox or NBC and CBS is spotty at best…I miss analog! this is awesome though…thanks a bunch!
by unklphinnie on Sep 3, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Solving our roster questions by trading our excess to other teams.
I’ve been playing around with some ideas:
Since there’s the Pioli-Parcells connection with Kansas City…
How about
Rodrique Wright 6-5 300 and Charlie Anderson 6-4 250 for KC’s 2010 Fifth Rounder
David Martin 6-4 265 and Greg Camarillo 6-1 190 for KC’s 2010 Fourth Rounder
They need help at Wide Receiver and TE and they some promising rookies at DE (Tyson Jackson, Sedrick Ellis, and Alex Magee) but no veteran depth with experience in a 3-4. They could also use some pass rushing depth. Charlie Anderson would be a capable backup to Mike Vrabel and might even beat out Tamba Hali to start for them.
That would give us KC’s 4th, 5th, 6th, and 7th rounders in 2010.
Brandon London, Joey Haynos, Erik Walden, Lionel Dotson, and Lex Hilliard make the team.
Abandoned the Draft Sean Smith at #25 Bandwagon to Join the Draft Sean Smith at #61 Bandwagon and get Vontae Davis and Chris Clemons. Trio > me.
by DolphDallas on Sep 3, 2009 12:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i like the idea
and something is better than nothing…. but..
I just think martin and cammy together should be worth a bit more. And I think Wright may make the team.
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 3, 2009 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok...except for the Camarillo part.
I’m a GC fan, I admit. I do like Bess and Hartline, but Camarillo is more experienced and is playing ok for someone who suffered a knee injury. He’ll be 100% soon, I don’t think we should get rid of him. He’ll give his contribution throughout the year.
BTW, can’t wait to check what Hartline and CP10 will produce tonight.
On a second note, tonight I dreamed that me and Sparano were an item. LOL. Damn funny…and disturbing. That’s gotta be a sign that the Fins will kick ass tonight…right? =p
by Rennie85 on Sep 3, 2009 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LMAO we'll he does have alot of money and power...
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Sep 3, 2009 2:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As much as I'd like to horde all those draft picks,
Pioli didn’t become a great GM by giving away all his late round draft picks for a bunch of back-ups. Those picks are like solid gold to a guy like Pioli.
by luvs2drnk on Sep 3, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah no way KC does that
maybe it will work with a team that hates the draft like the Washington Redskins
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Sep 3, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't be so sure that they wouldn't!
Wright, Anderson, Martin, and Camarillo are good enough to earn a roster spot on a talented team, they most certainly make the KC roster. There is also a very good chance that all four start at some point for the Chiefs (giving KC’s talented but raw DL rookies time to learn from a vet without being knocked completely out of the lay).
Name a General Manager who wouldn’t trade a 4th rounder and a 5th rounder for 3 or 4 starters and quality deth?
After alll, they did trade for an oldie but goodie Mike Vrabel.
All four have Bill Parcells’ stamp of approval.
Even for draft masters, it’s rare to find 4th rounders and later picks that make the team and have long careers in the NFL.
These are NFL ready players.
Abandoned the Draft Sean Smith at #25 Bandwagon to Join the Draft Sean Smith at #61 Bandwagon and get Vontae Davis and Chris Clemons. Trio > me.
by DolphDallas on Sep 3, 2009 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I did just name one, Scott Pioli.
This guy has proven he can build from the draft. Why would he give up over half his draft for guys who would be back ups on most teams, including KC? He could find guys that could be even better than the ones you offer in those same rounds.
by luvs2drnk on Sep 3, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
O-line needing work
tonite is my focus while watching tonite.
I don’t think there are that many roster spots that will be won or lost tonite. I bet our evaluators are ready to make thier roster right now.
Trading Rod Wright and Charlie Anderson for a pick makes sense, as mentioned above. Picking up capable backup O-linemen seems to me to be a need. I don’t hear that mentioned much, though. “would be prudent, at this juncture…haha”
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by snook36 on Sep 3, 2009 12:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
One good thing...
It can’t rain tonite! If anyone is on the bubble they get a dry, fast track to showcase thier talents on.
Pat White should look good in the fourth quarter against the scrubs on dry turf.
You have to play this game like somebody just hit your mother with a two-by-four.
-Dan Birdwell
by snook36 on Sep 3, 2009 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jordan Black is a backup tackle for Jacksonville that i would like Miami to acquire
He was the stud lineman for the KC glory days of Priest Holmes/Larry Johnson
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Sep 3, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the key words there are, "glory days".
Probably why he is a back up, and why Holmes is gone, and Johnson isn’t far behind.
by luvs2drnk on Sep 3, 2009 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Battle of the undefeated teams
The 3-0 Dolphins march into New Orleans to face the 3-0 Saints, who are definetly the hottest team in the preseason. In 3 games the saints have scored 100 points, and only allowed 28, a net of 72 points! Let’s hope our defense locks it down and takes us to 4-0.
Our goal 23-0=
Preseason: 4-0
Season: 16-0
Playoffs: 3-0
Laces out!
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Suck it Pats, Bills and most of all... the god damn jets.
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by BSerious72 on Sep 3, 2009 1:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
that works
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by samdaman on Sep 3, 2009 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
One thing I think you forgot to mention....
Will our pass defense step up and play ball this game? I know we won’t see much of Drew Brees and that high powered passing attack of New Orleans, maybe a quarters worth at most. But if there’s a time to see how good/bad our pass defense really is, it’s the game tonight. Tonight will be a true test of where our defense stands going into the season, and if they play anything like they did at Tampa…. We could be looking at a severe beat down in that first quarter. That’s my biggest concern going into this game. The rest to me pales in comparison.
by luvs2drnk on Sep 3, 2009 1:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
the reason i left that out was I don't even know if we see Brees at all.
by Matty I on Sep 3, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sure he'll get at least 2-3 series of work.
Most teams that hold out starters the last preseason game are because that player is nursing a minor injury. If they’re healthy, they usually play a couple series in the last game, but usually never past the first quarter.
by luvs2drnk on Sep 3, 2009 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
possibly
but I just read in the New Orleans paper that the beat writer for the Saints thinks Brees will see one series at most and will mostly handoff. And if that’s the case, the run defense better step up. It’s not like NO has a great OL or anything.
by Matty I on Sep 3, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They can't be that bad,
I know it was against the Raiders, but 28 carries for 178 yds without Bush and Thomas has to mean something.
by luvs2drnk on Sep 3, 2009 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nalbone
Matty, Glad to hear you still have hope for Nalbone making the team. I thought he played well on special teams last week. Even when he wasn’t in on the tackle, there were a couple of times he was close by-seems like he gets down the field pretty fast.
I hope they give him more playing time tonight at TE.
by gfaub on Sep 3, 2009 2:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I just want Nalbone to beat out David Martin for the 2nd te spot
Martin is not good imo… Chad makes him look decent
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Sep 3, 2009 2:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Did you watch the games last year?
Martin made some damn good catches, that made Pennington look good. This guy isn’t afraid to throw his body around to make a catch.
by luvs2drnk on Sep 3, 2009 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
I hated Martin in ’07 but he was clutch in 08
by Matty I on Sep 3, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
great play in SF
one of the best catches of the season.
definetly give that honor to Ginn vs. SEA and of course at NY.
Laces out!
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Suck it Pats, Bills and most of all... the god damn jets.
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by BSerious72 on Sep 3, 2009 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ginn vs SEA
best catch of year fer sure
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by snook36 on Sep 3, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great points about watching these preseason games,
there is so much to learn about your team in these games, and the players that will make the team, however the 4th quarter of these last games can get a little sloppy.
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by uncle finster on Sep 3, 2009 2:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
4th and 5th stringers battling it out, isn't exactly prime time entertainment
Might as well switch it over to college football at that point. And there’s a whole slew of games tonight!
by luvs2drnk on Sep 3, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
add another candidate to the roster...
…that guy from Black Eyed Peas. http://www.starpulse.com/news/index.php/2009/09/03/will_i_am_eyes_a_football_career_
WTF?
Watch out, Hilliard.
by Rennie85 on Sep 3, 2009 3:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Taint gonna happen!!!!!!!
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by Alpha6 on Sep 3, 2009 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lmao
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by Davone_Is_BessT on Sep 3, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have a feeling that there will be a couple of players cut that most of us think are shoo ins for the roster.
Camarillo?
Moses?
J. Allen?
We might be surprised in a couple of days. Especially when you consider that we will probably be picking up some other teams players who were let go.
by ct1361 on Sep 3, 2009 4:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Good luck to your offensive starters making plays 2nite
I can’t wait to see the replay of this game on the Network so that I can watch the Saints backup defensive players forcing turnovers on your offensive starters for a quarter and a half! Y’all have no idea how deep this Saints team is this year, do you? You will soon find out! Actually, I can’t wait to see the Saints pound the Dolphins in the regular season later this year!
Best of luck to y’all and hopefully y’all (and us) will come out of this one accident free!
by realheavyd on Sep 3, 2009 5:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh shit...
A saints fan throwing down. I guess they’re finally letting out all that pent up frustration called their franchise in the 70’s, 80’s, and 90’s. Wasn’t it the Saints fans themselves that called themselves the Aint’s?
by luvs2drnk on Sep 3, 2009 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think you are mischaracterizing how bad they have been
i mean, honestly, they still sucked well into this decade as also.
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 3, 2009 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok, I'm sorry.
In 41 seasons the Aint’s have had a grand total of 8 winning seasons, didn’t have their first winning season until their 19th season, Only 15 seasons of .500 or better football. A career winning percentage of .411 (Only the Houston Texans have a worse career percentage and they’re tied with the Falcons). They’ve only made the playoffs 6 times. How does NO still have a team????
by luvs2drnk on Sep 3, 2009 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Come on now
They’ve had plenty of talent, Archie Manning, um…….. Archie Manning…..
"The tradition argument is what has-been's use when they've got nothing left currently to brag about. You can drag out all the numbers you want. Those banners in your stadium don't pass, catch or play defense."
-RIP FSU Football
by krempmasterflash on Sep 3, 2009 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yea man, he could pick a mudder to win on a dry track!
Armchair QB's always complete the pass and armchair coaches always pick the right players.
Yes, Larry Little is still the man.
by Tunaflipper on Sep 3, 2009 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I forgot John Carney
"The tradition argument is what has-been's use when they've got nothing left currently to brag about. You can drag out all the numbers you want. Those banners in your stadium don't pass, catch or play defense."
-RIP FSU Football
by krempmasterflash on Sep 3, 2009 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and don't forget
archie manning
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 3, 2009 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They did have a good D, back in the late 80's with one of the best LB corps ever.
Rickey Jackson, Sam Mills, and Pat Swilling. I’ll give them props for that. Considering they accounted for 25% of the Aint’s winning seasons.
by luvs2drnk on Sep 3, 2009 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
dude, you obviously watch a lot of saints foosball
but you need to watch some other teams play so you can get an idea of what a real defense is supposed to play like. you offense shouldn’t HAVE to score 45 points to win.
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 3, 2009 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He wears his bag backwards.
But I’ll agree with with him about an “injury” free game.
Armchair QB's always complete the pass and armchair coaches always pick the right players.
Yes, Larry Little is still the man.
by Tunaflipper on Sep 3, 2009 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
... you may want to join the game thread here... heh heh heh
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by Alpha6 on Sep 3, 2009 5:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ur nicer than the jet fans
but ur getting ur ass whooped in the regular season
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No hating on Jay Fiedler, please.
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by samdaman on Sep 3, 2009 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOO
a saints fan talkin bout defense
most hilarious shit ever
by the time its over the only “pounding” going on will be u with urself after watchin how OUR sexy ass defense destroys u
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by Davone_Is_BessT on Sep 3, 2009 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chad Henning, Donald Smiley, Ricky Brown, Tony Daniels??? who are theses guys?
by tdecker on Sep 3, 2009 9:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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