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What Thigpen trade says about Dolphins

Pat White - meet your new competition: Tyler Thigpen.

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Pat White - meet your new competition: Tyler Thigpen.

In the wake of today's news that the Dolphins have traded for quarterback Tyler Thigpen, many Dolphin fans are wondering what this move means to the Dolphins.  In particular, what can we take out of this move in terms of the team's feelings towards the two current quarterbacks on the roster?

It's an interesting question, for sure.  And anyone who attempts to answer it really must preface their response with the fact that it is pure speculation.  For now, we really have no way to know for sure what, if anything, this move means to either Chad Henne or Pat White.

With that said, I have a theory.

As far as Henne goes, I don't think it means a thing.  If Chad goes out there and plays relatively well, he's the starting quarterback of the Miami Dolphins for the remainder of this year and - hopefully - for many years to come.

But for White, I think Thigpen's acquisition means something a bit more.  I think this shows that the Dolphins are far from sold on Pat White as either a potential long-term quarterback possibility as well as a spread offense triggerman.  Thigpen, meanwhile, comes to the Dolphins from Kansas City - where the Chiefs basically installed a spread offense tailored to Tyler's strength's last season.  He's a terrific athlete who can run, throw, and catch.

It's no secret that the Dolphins clearly have some type of spread option offensive package installed for White.  But Thigpen could potentially be a better fit.  And if the Dolphins were sold that White might eventually progress into a solid spread offense triggerman and potential backup quarterback, I don't think they would have brought in a young quarterback like Thigpen instead of an experienced veteran to simply be Henne's backup incase of injury.

While I'm not ready to say that Thigpen's arrival in Miami is the end of the Pat White experiment, I do think it's an indictment on how little White has progressed thus far.  And now, sooner rather than later, I expect to see Thigpen as the second quarterback on gameday with White relegated to emergency third string duties.  After all, Thigpen is more experienced at this level, is the better backup quarterback to Henne incase Henne goes down, and is probably better suited to handle Miami's spread option package than White is.

So now the question becomes how long until Thigpen gets involved in Miami's spread option offensive package on gameday?

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psychologically this has to impact opponents.

cause now they know that we’ve got 2 QB’s who have the arm strength to stretch the field.

Now we need a WR that can catch it and our offense might actually start clicking.

Ted Ginn must go.

by afmo on Sep 29, 2009 5:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

agreed

We need a strong physical STICKY HANDS reciever, I am really disappointed in the recieving corps except Bess. Ginn has all the speed but can not catch the ball to do something with i, Every time Ginn does get the ball he eithers runs out of bounds or falls down quickly before contact, YOU BIG WEENIE.

SOOWOOP..........

by B1G SaMoAn TuNa on Sep 29, 2009 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Give him a week's practice,

and at least one full game with Henne before you start throwing stones.

Ginn is going to wake up big soon, so pick him up in your fantasy leagues.

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by joel311 on Sep 29, 2009 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Turner needs to be activated.

He could be a gamer.

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by joel311 on Sep 29, 2009 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i agree

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by samdaman on Sep 29, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dude, he COULDN'T CATCH THE SOFT EASY PASSES

What makes you think he is going to catch the bullets?

He had the exact same problem in College….he drops passes….a lot of them.

by Fr8Train on Sep 29, 2009 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So never is when he'll be ready?

oh okay….. now I understand.

cool, my bad. I’ll just wait……..(tick tock)….

by Fr8Train on Sep 30, 2009 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

sorry joel

i agree with most of what you say. but ginn is scared of being hit. period.

by TheCableguy on Sep 30, 2009 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It certianly does seem so. He never fights for the extra yards.

I always imagine the defender yells boo and then he falls down.

by texascowpunk on Sep 30, 2009 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

or even whispers boo !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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by PhinsTifosi on Sep 30, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

weeks practice it is

alright I’ll give Ginn one more week, if he acts like a weenie and jumps out of the way or if he misses an easy completion he will go down as a BIG WEENIE RECIEVER IN MY BOOKS. ill be cheering for him to get better but dang if he SUCKS he SUCKS point blank, we need to move on WE NEED SUPER BOWL RING.

SOOWOOP..........

by B1G SaMoAn TuNa on Sep 30, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great job Matty

Exactly the thought process I had. Henne’s the man now, but White may have a problem.

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by Mosul_DolFan on Sep 29, 2009 5:26 PM EDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

WHITE AT RECIEVER

We dont really need white anymore. We should just keep him anyways as a decoy OR EVEN BETTER put him at recieverI think itll be better then seeing dropped passes from that weenie GINN

SOOWOOP..........

by B1G SaMoAn TuNa on Sep 30, 2009 5:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thigpen

Here we go again. Somebodys cast off. Why does Jay Feeley come to mind. If it should happen to be a second round pick I will know where Parcells next stop will be.

by Da Mick on Sep 29, 2009 5:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Jay Feely is a Kicker

AJ Feeley is the legend…

Ted Ginn must go.

by afmo on Sep 29, 2009 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

chiefs offense

their offense has always been terrible. larry johnson always getting hurt, no real line, no WRs (just like us) and he put up decent numbers. it can’t hurt and we need a backup.

by tightypatwhitey on Sep 29, 2009 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Feely?

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by Dragon27az on Sep 30, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

Sometimes violence is the only way to get through to some people.

by texascowpunk on Sep 30, 2009 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You guys will love Thigpen.

He is a very exciting player to watch. He is not a starting QB by any means, but he is a great backup and would do wonders in the wildcat. Think it kind slipped everybody’s mind that he was able to throw, run for, and catch a touchdown last year in Herm’s conservative offense.

Henne is still your guys QB of the future, but Thigpen is a great toy to play around with. Depending which draft pick it was; this could be a steal for the Miami Dolphins.

by ChiefsFan90s on Oct 1, 2009 1:06 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If anything...

I believe it shows they have lots of faith in Henne. Veteren pocket passers were available (Garcia is expected to be released any minute), by not getting a veteran and getting Thigpen, it tells me they trust Henne (or at least will give him full support this year – good move).

On Tyler, i agree he seems another great player who can play the Wildcat, he can actually catch the ball well, so if you spread him right, someone could throw it to him….and that could be White.

Imagine packages with both White and Tyler on the field? Both can throw, run and they say Pat can catch, haven;t seen it, but it will be interesting to see.

Go Fins!

by MoLimits on Sep 29, 2009 5:32 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Won't happen.

If they did what you propose with White and Thigpen, that means Henne can no longer enter the game unless White or Thigpen is listed as an alternate position like WR. So, while that would be cool and interesting, it wont happen.

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by Dragon27az on Sep 30, 2009 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have one question about this

Can tyler thigpen play WR? He can’t? Oh, well then this trade is worthless then. And I don’t care if White isn’t ready yet, neither was Henne last year at this time. Way to fail Bill. >:(

by ROCFinsfan on Sep 29, 2009 5:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

While I agree that WR is the missing piece of the puzzle,

How is having a legitimate backup QB a “fail?”

Riddle me this. Henne goes down Sunday and suddenly you’re looking at Pat White and…….?

Ted Ginn must go.

by afmo on Sep 29, 2009 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ronnie brown?

Laces out!

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by BSerious72 on Sep 29, 2009 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Come one...

B Serious

;P

Ted Ginn must go.

by afmo on Sep 29, 2009 6:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he is

cant you read his name

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by kewlguy on Sep 29, 2009 7:28 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Thank you good sir.

Laces out!

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by BSerious72 on Sep 29, 2009 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think you missed a spot of Cheetos there on the corner of your mouth

At what point has Bill Parcell’s failed? We were 1-15 two seasons ago and we are still rebuildilng. You can’t turn an average NFL team into a super bowl contender in a couple years, so why do you expect to turn a horrid NFL team into one any sooner.

Sometimes I wish we’d have gone 4-12 last year just to avoid all this….inflated expectation.

Here's to hitting your head jumping off the bandwagon.

by SunDolphin on Sep 29, 2009 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ok, i like him

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by samdaman on Sep 30, 2009 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hard to call it a fail...

when they havent even played yet.

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by Dragon27az on Sep 30, 2009 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

OOPS

How could I forget. AJ. Thats right. I’ve spent all all this time trying to forget. I guess I was sucessful.

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by Da Mick on Sep 29, 2009 5:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

nice job matty

but i think this trade kills hennes confidence

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by samdaman on Sep 29, 2009 5:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i hope not

if this one move hurts his confidence, then Henne isn’t the right guy for us to begin with.

by Matty I on Sep 29, 2009 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's the truth, Matty.

Here's to hitting your head jumping off the bandwagon.

by SunDolphin on Sep 29, 2009 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

tru, which states my point :-)

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by samdaman on Sep 29, 2009 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL Whats your point again?

Come on buddy get behind Henne already!

by texascowpunk on Sep 30, 2009 2:34 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

im confusig myself

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by samdaman on Sep 30, 2009 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Henne has to know

That the dolphins would sign someone as a “legit” backup QB with the premise that Henne is the starting QB. The Front Office isn’t stating that they are bringing Thigpen in to “challenge” for the starting role. No team would venture the season with only 2 QBs with the talent and experience that the dolphins duo has collectively.

by Vanman_FishFan13 on Oct 1, 2009 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i agree

If Henne confidents goes down then he isnt ready for the challenge. The position is never given on a silver platter it must be earned. QB is the leader of the offense and the rest of the team so he gotta grab his balls and man up.

SOOWOOP..........

by B1G SaMoAn TuNa on Sep 29, 2009 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I remember when Thigpen was drafted and I asked myself, "Who the F is that?"

It was one of those moments that stay with a person for apparently no reason, but always resonate a little later in life, like an echo in time.

I have no idea what this trade means except that Parcells and co. aren’t stupid. They aren’t making the mistake of betting on one horse when they can bet on three. We could make the mistake of committing only to Henne and not bringing in other talent in, and if he doesn’t work out where would we be? This is backup for the backup for the main plan.

And I don’t think you can read into this trade so easily as to say it’s not Henne’s job. What else helps push a young QB along? Competition at his position. Why trust a 23 year old to do it himself when you can easily make him do it by using another talented qb to breathe down his neck? Maybe Henne isn’t the man, but if he can buck this type of pressure, he’ll prove to be more than just a good qb, but a winner. The same goes for Thigpen and White.

The competition has begun, folks. Just wild.

Here's to hitting your head jumping off the bandwagon.

by SunDolphin on Sep 29, 2009 6:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I have a Chiefs fan friend!!

He is in luv with Thigpen, like he was with Ganon. The Chief traded Ganon to Okland, end of story, last tinme Oak went to a SB. He was so piss!! Now he was like, why they dont put Thigpen, he still beleive Thigpen is better than Coley(or whatever his name is).
U said Henne dont have competition?, I tho this regimen beleive in competition!

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by Aleta on Sep 29, 2009 6:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

croyle*

and yes Thigs reminded me of Gannon also

by tomahawk44 on Sep 29, 2009 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Again I like this move but...

the Eagles cut Jeff garcia a few days after signing him. We coulda got him cheap. But hell I like Thiggy way better. Like the athleticism and youth

by kazam92 on Sep 29, 2009 6:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

garcia is too old

for the culture they’re trying to instill around here.

Ted Ginn must go.

by afmo on Sep 29, 2009 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Plus what would that say to the team .. they would want Garcia to play after one bad game which would divide the locker room. Thigpen is the right choice not only for this year but for the upcoming years as a solid backup

by markus_13 on Sep 29, 2009 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What was the pick?

Anyone heard yet what we gave up?

by crossborderFISHingtrip on Sep 29, 2009 6:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

probably

based on performance, games played, etc etc. Totally conditional.

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by Dragon27az on Sep 30, 2009 2:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think this trade means anything

outside of the Dolphins wanting to have a veteran backup with NFL experience and neither Henne nor White has ever started a game in this league.

They had to get someone with NFL experience just in case.

I think you’re reading too much into this move.

by anaconda on Sep 29, 2009 7:09 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

im with you

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by samdaman on Sep 29, 2009 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jeff Garcia

was available in Free Agency. You don’t trade a Draft Pick if all you want is a backup.

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by joel311 on Sep 29, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Although,

Jeff Garcia would have undermined Pennington’s role as a mentor. Now we have 3 possible franchise QBs with the most efficient QB to play the game as a mentor/coach. It’s win/win/win/win.

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by joel311 on Sep 29, 2009 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

I guess that means that we will win/win/win/win.

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by Dragon27az on Sep 30, 2009 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

With Chad gone, Miami needed another QB.

The coach will start whoever gives Dolphins best chance to win.

3 good possibilities – it is a good thing.

The most fun part will be the wildcat options.

Brown, White, Cobbs, Rickey and Thig -

All of them can run, pass, or catch.

Defenses will have no answer !

by WarWolf on Sep 29, 2009 7:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

can Ricky throw?

I dont think I have ever seen him attempt a pass…except for passing the joint that is. ; )

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by Dragon27az on Sep 30, 2009 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like this guy ALOT

now i really want henne to succeed for the good of the franchise but would it surprise me if thigpen some how became our best QB in the next few years no. Thigpen is good and if pioli was not in such a big rush to get his players from the patriots he would have realized how great this guy was last year for the chiefs. Thigpen was just stuck in a bad position. A New Regime comes in and they wanted their QB to play and not the guy who had decent success the year before. He is definitely better than White (who each and every day looks like he was just a product of the system at WV)Great trade by the Dolphins. and i wonder why my other favorite team the panthers could not pull a deal off like this when they are even worse at QB then we are

by jazztrumpeter89 on Sep 29, 2009 7:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

For fuck's sake,

White is a rookie from a non-pro style college system. How quickly do you people actually expect him to be a great pro player? Give him time.

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by joel311 on Sep 29, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

thanks joel

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by samdaman on Sep 29, 2009 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're welcome,

Sam.

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by joel311 on Sep 29, 2009 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

glad i have some other white fans (thats pat white)

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by samdaman on Sep 29, 2009 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

i think we knew what you meant but thanks for clarifying

by jazztrumpeter89 on Sep 29, 2009 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

there was confusion before

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by samdaman on Sep 30, 2009 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

seriously

Give ol’ PatCat (I coined this one by the way) time. Seriously. Can someone really be a bust after 3 weeks worth of football?? Just because you jumped off of the bandwagon after one week doesnt mean you have to light the thing on fire!

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by Dragon27az on Sep 30, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have been saying the same thing....

….in all my other comments to different posts. Seems like someone is bashing White because he “Sucks”. The guy has had 5 snaps (that I remember) so far this season. He overthrew a wide open Ginn (very deep mind you) against the Falcons on his only pass attempt. Let the guy have a season before you start the Ryan Leaf comparison people. Pat might very well end up failing, but like Joel said, give the guy a chance to learn the offense, the terminology and the speed of the game before we crucify him.

by Vanman_FishFan13 on Oct 1, 2009 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

As for the draft compensation, KC still owes Miami for the 2 offensive linemen. I think the deal will really be Thigpen for those 2 and maybe slight adjustment in draft pick order in the end.

by WarWolf on Sep 29, 2009 7:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Backup QB w/ Experience

To me Pat White has looked terrible each time he has been on the field albeit only for a couple of plays each time. I guess I was surprised that we didn’t see more of him in the preseason. I do think too much is being made of what Thigpen brings to the table other than he will be a backup but I dont’ personally think we will see anything from this guy anytime soon

by markus_13 on Sep 29, 2009 7:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

We will see..

Competition ; )
Or Henne has won the STARing position? lol

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by Aleta on Sep 29, 2009 7:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

YOUR THEORY IS RIDICULOUS

Miami is committed to Chad Henne. Frankly, what other choice do they have? They have to find out sooner or later what they have in Henne sooner or later. Pennington contract expires at the end of the year and Thigpen makes around 400k base salary signed through 2011. Who hell wants some old geezer like Jeff Garcia around? The extra 700k/year is not worth it. Thigpen also has the ability to be run the ball and can probably run the traditional offense and the special packages for Pat White in case he gets injured. Essentially, he is a backup who can kill multiple birds with one stone at a bargain basement price. If Henne gets hurt or stinks it up so bad that he has to get benched then why not take a shot on a guy who has potential upside? He did win some games last year on a really shitty team. If Henne sucks up the field then we should be in the top of the first round and there are som very interesting QBs available like Sam Bradford. Lets find out if we need to consider that direction.

Also, there is a good chance that Henne struggles because he has NO receivers. If that’s the case, why not go with someone who can run instead of sit behind a sometimes porous offensive line and turned into scrambled eggs.

It actually works out perfectly for them since Pennington’s injury comes while 0-3 and 3-0,2-1. Signing a veteran like Jeff Garcia would have only created a QB controversy and allows the team to work though the inevitable growing pains without having to deal with dumbass fans who have nothing better to do then call 560WQAM or 790 and bitch.

I like the move. I also like that we got him from the Chiefs and you better believe that Pioli isnt going to screw over Parcells. If so, not a Thanksgiving dinner I would want to be present at.

by JDubPhin on Sep 29, 2009 7:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Pat White backup

Of course Miami isn’t comfortable with White as a backup…he wasn’t draft to be a full time starter…if he had to start full time then they have no time to develop him

by JDubPhin on Sep 29, 2009 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Doesn't sound clear-cut to me.

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by joel311 on Sep 30, 2009 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They said he would play QB

and the consensus among the fans was ( before Thigpen) was that if both Chads went down we might see White start (before the season anyways). They wanted him to develop into a somewhat regular qb

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by kewlguy on Sep 30, 2009 4:36 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well OF COURSE he was going to start if

Both Chads went down….he would have been the only QB left on the Active Roster…

Are you serious? Thats your argument?….. If a Meteorite came down and killed the Chads while they where on a ferris wheel….then White would start.

Okay, I’m with you.

by Fr8Train on Sep 30, 2009 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with a lot of what you say.

but I don’t want to draft anymore Qbs. I want one of the three we now have to miraculously step it up. I’m sick of playing this merry-go-round every year. We’ve got three, it’s got to be one of these three.

Though I puke at the idea of signing Garcia, I don’t agree with you that we don’t now have a quarterback controversy. We’ve got a huge one.

The only thing that could make that Thanksgiving worse would be if T.O. showed up in drag.

Here's to hitting your head jumping off the bandwagon.

by SunDolphin on Sep 29, 2009 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ya think?

No team would be comfortable with 2 qbs who had never made a start in their brief NFL careers. It was a smart move and one that had to be made. It wasn’t a dig on Henne or White, it was a smart business decision.

by Vanman_FishFan13 on Oct 1, 2009 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

*It

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by Patssuck456 on Sep 29, 2009 7:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I dont think they are comfortable with Henne either lol

Why is ppl wranting Henne, FULL stars of the season?
If he doesnt cut it and Thigpen kill him in practices day in and day out, do u spect the Trifecta to leave Henne playing and leaving a better young qb in the bench?

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by Aleta on Sep 29, 2009 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

2 Qbs with now experience whatsoever

Instead of signing Garcia at the end of his career, why not sign a 25 year old semi-proven player? You can’t take anything out of it, it’s just good business sense by Parcells.

Here's to hitting your head jumping off the bandwagon.

by SunDolphin on Sep 29, 2009 8:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Dolphins lost their starter,

and picked up a starter. Henne gets to keep the job if he plays well, but if he falters then Thigpen comes in. I think Thigpen mentors White on some nuances of how a spread offense works in the NFL, how to take a hit, etc. and Pat White will still continue to be developed as a spread QB since he is more physically talented than Thigpen.

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by joel311 on Sep 29, 2009 7:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You don't think White is too small?

Some are saying that. I personally love him.

Here's to hitting your head jumping off the bandwagon.

by SunDolphin on Sep 29, 2009 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think he'll do very well.

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by joel311 on Sep 29, 2009 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

me 2

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by samdaman on Sep 29, 2009 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If this coaching staff wanted to give a vote of confidence to Henne, you don't trade draft pick(s) for Thigpen

I don’t see how this is not a kick in the crotch to Henne. Everyone knows how much this FO values all their draft picks and to give one (or two?) up for a 25 yr old QB who was successful in a starting role last year, tells me that they are hedging their bet with Henne.

If you had complete confidence in Henne, you sign an over the hill veteran as an emergency QB. What other young starting QB is looking over their shoulder at another young QB who has started in the league? None that I can think of, not Ryan, Flacco, Stafford, Sanchez. Hell even Jamarcus Russell is secure in his spot as a starter.

As far as White is concerned, it is pretty early to be giving up on a 2nd round draft pick who has no experience at all in a professional offense. He is a project who not only needs to learn how to be a pro, but the terminology of the offense, and how to take a snap from center. That will take time.

IMO, this is shot across the bow of Henne’s ship and Henne better perform now. If he is bad these next two games, look out. Because after the bye week, look for Thigpen to be the starter against New Orleans.

by ct1361 on Sep 29, 2009 8:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Exactly,

I don’t understand how people take this as a bad sign for a ROOKIE over the 2nd year supposed man in waiting. White has not been in the league long enough to be evaluated.

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by joel311 on Sep 29, 2009 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Couldn't disagree more

Every team in the NFL has a veteran backup QB on the roster. Every one of them. There are no exceptions.

Henne is essentially a “redshirt freshman” making his first career start and playing only his 3rd game. Pat White is their true freshman who has taken just a handful of snaps.

The Trifecta drafted Henne and they believe he’s their guy for the future. They are going to give him every opportunity to succeed.

by anaconda on Sep 29, 2009 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Trifecta also drafted Pat White.

Or am I missing something?

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by joel311 on Sep 29, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Trifecta hasn't trumped Pat White as their QB of the future

They have done that with Henne.

Secondly, it’s obvious to everybody that Pat White isn’t anywhere near ready to be an NFL QB.

by anaconda on Sep 29, 2009 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not following your logic.

When you say trumped, do you mean marked? Trumped would be a more accurate term for the situation, but from this context that’s not what you mean. In less than a year, this team has added 2 QBs to the roster that rely heavily on their feet. It’s not a coincidence, it’s the direction that the regime wants the team to go. Henne is not mobile so, unless he is excellent over the next couple weeks, he needs to be worried.

The signs that Henne might not be the man have been prevalent through the offseason and the first couple games of the season. I feel a lot of Henne lovers are in denial just like Beck lovers of last year. I’m not saying Henne can’t be the man, I’m just saying he’s no longer the favorite.

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by joel311 on Sep 29, 2009 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's not going to happen

Henne is the Dolphins QB for the rest of the season unless he is John Beck terrible and completely falls on his face.

This regime has stuck with Ted Ginn as their #1 receiver, a guy they didn’t even draft, and he hasn’t played well enough to really deserve it.

Now is the time to figure out what Henne is going to bring to this franchise and the Trifecta are going to stick with him as long as he doesn’t completely embarrass himself out there.

You also can’t evaluate jack shit based on what we’ve seen from Henne as a Dolphin. This weekend is going to be the first start of his career and hadn’t taken that many snaps with the first team.

Henne is the favorite going forward. There’s no question about it.

by anaconda on Sep 29, 2009 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wildcat.

Wildcat is killing teams right now. We are headed towards that being our base formation. Agree, disagree, I don’t care. Time will prove me right.

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by joel311 on Sep 30, 2009 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Wildcat will not be their base formation

You can forget it.

I’ll remind you how wrong you were at the end of the season.

by anaconda on Sep 30, 2009 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're not serious?

I’m starting to think your only cause to be here is to offer up conspiracy theories….

Don’t be that guy….. next thing you’ll tell me you have a sensitive pony tail….and play acoustic guitar by firelight….. don’t be that guy.

by Fr8Train on Sep 30, 2009 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I get the pony tail thing but there

is NOTHING wrong with acoustic guitar!

by texascowpunk on Sep 30, 2009 2:37 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol, if you have the pony tail, chances are

you are singing John Mayer, or some crap lol

by Fr8Train on Sep 30, 2009 9:08 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i like john mayer

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by samdaman on Sep 30, 2009 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn't call Thigpen a "veteran" just yet

This is his 3rd year (35 games) in the league and only started 11 games. I guess he has more experience than Henne, but not much. This isn’t like signing Garcia or Frerotte or Griese. Those are veterans.

by ct1361 on Sep 29, 2009 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

no he is not a veteran

But without a doubt if anything happened to Henne, Thigpen would give us a much much better chance at winning than would Pat White, Thigpen did some very nice things in KC last year, most notably against us.

I personally believe in Henne to a certain extent, but he needs to get his confidence up, he seemed to be making the same moves that Penne always did, checking down instead of really looking downfield, one very bad move was the checkdown on 3rd and 19 where he barely even threw it past the LOS, Im glad Thigpen is here, just in case this Henne kid isnt what we all hope

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by CarltheChamp on Sep 29, 2009 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He has 11 NFL starts.

Henne has 0. That’s a lot more than “not much” experience :P

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by joel311 on Sep 29, 2009 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

With the success of The Wildcat,

the subsequent drafting of Pat White, and the addition of a proven spread offense QB that can throw.. I think this regime wants to make The Wildcat our base package. That is why Henne is in trouble.

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by joel311 on Sep 29, 2009 8:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What?

“Even still, I suspect Thigpen will be nothing more than the #3 quarterback on gameday for the foreseeable future.” and not 4 hours later it’s “And now, sooner rather than later, I expect to see Thigpen as the second quarterback on gameday with White relegated to emergency third string duties.”?

As you said, anything anyone says is pure speculation therefore I would take the Thigpen signing no differently than when Walsh signed Steve Young even though he had Montana,Shula signing Mitchell when they already had Marino,Indy drafting Brown when they have Addai,us drafting Parmalee AND Lex when we have Ronnie or any number of other teams signing other players whether it’s out of uncertainty or simply “turning over rocks”,you always try and bring in quality depth and sometimes you find a gem.

NOT aquiring Thigpen,especially considering the cost,would have been moronic IMO because he is a tremendous athlete,has quite a bit of experience for his age but most importantly has quite a bit of experience in the type of O that BP began researching and wants to implement here long before he even came to Miami so it was a no-brainer from this FO’s point of view.

If he comes in and performs really well then he will get his shot as will White…might oughta buckle up because things might just get very interesting and exciting sooner rather later because the spread is coming to town boys and girls!

by firedanhenningnow on Sep 29, 2009 8:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

so much patty hate!

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by samdaman on Sep 29, 2009 8:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Its not hate brother just a lot of people that

do not see what you see. I keep wondering if hes such a good athlete can he be converted to reciever if he does not work out as a QB. I know this has been tried with other college QBs with some limited success. This at least keeps him from being a wasted pick and the fact that he can throw gives him another dimention as a weapon on reverses. Just an idea for ya’!

by texascowpunk on Sep 30, 2009 2:42 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

alright I think that this trade was more of the opposite of what you are thinking, Matty.

I think that it is to challenge Henne but it will be the kind of challenge we have Carpenter with Barth. The challenge that is challenging one’s self not the fight for their job, although they may think that. I’m just hoping it can make either Henne a better QB or will make Thigpen a better one.

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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Sep 29, 2009 8:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

We worked out Ryan Torain today...

The Dolphins tried out free agent RB Ryan Torain on Tuesday.
None of Miami’s backs are known to be injured, so Torain was likely just in for a look-see and physical. Torain does have practice squad eligibility.

I always liked this guy….. I know we are stacked with RB’s, but he’s a stud.

by Fr8Train on Sep 29, 2009 10:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm a fan,

of getting as much quality depth as possible. Look what happened to Pennington.

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by joel311 on Sep 30, 2009 12:17 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It would have been nice to see Dwyane Bowe (a Miami Native by the way) included in the trade.

I would have thrown in a 2nd Rounder and whatever the conditional pick we’re giving up to Kansas City for Bowe and Thigpen. All of a Sudden, if Henne or Thigpen pan out and our defense improves, we’re talking a winning formula again. Bowe should have been our pick instead of Ginn two years ago! Although I must admit, I haven’t given up on Ginn like everyone else. I think he’s a legit #2 reciever. He’s not a star, but he’s not terrible either! He’s shown flashes….

Back to Thigpen, I love the trade. It could be a blessing. The guy threw for 2,000+ yards and 18 TD’s while also running for 300+ and a couple rushing TD’s in just 11 games. Did I mention he also caught a TD pass! He did all this behind maybe one of the worst O-lines in NFL history! Who knows how good this kid really is with an above average O-line like ours. He’s just fun to watch. And I love his upside! This could be a blessing in disguise. I like Henne. I think he’s gonna be a good QB in this league. But, I definitely would not be surprised if Thigpen was our starting QB by the end of the season. Good move by Parcells and Co.

by JP 23 on Sep 29, 2009 11:01 PM EDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

We do love our Bowe :) lol

Im just glad Thigs went somewhere that I think he has a chance to compete for a job and a team I dont absolutely hate. Treat him well Miami hes and awesome guy I got a chance to meet him the week before week 1 very nice guy and loves his fans.

by tomahawk44 on Sep 29, 2009 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha he can be..

hes been a lot better about it since Haleys been in town though he kind of demoted DBo to third string for a while b/c he wants a “team” attitude so no celebrating I guess now he just always has a cocky lil grin and hands the ball to the ref

by tomahawk44 on Sep 29, 2009 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lol. Seriously Tomahawk, let's get down to buisness.

What’s it gonna take to get Dwyane Bowe off your hands? Lol.

A 2nd round pick and all you can eat Cuban sandwiches for 5 whole years! But that’s my final offer! :) haha!

by JP 23 on Sep 30, 2009 12:08 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

haha make that BBQ and we got a deal:)

and oh yeah a pass rush lol oh and one more jake long..deal? haha Glad thigs is playing for some good fans and is out of the AFC West :)

by tomahawk44 on Sep 30, 2009 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think

Bowe only has like 1 year left on his contract….you dont give up a high pick for 1 season worth of football………unless you are the Redskins that is.

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by Dragon27az on Oct 1, 2009 2:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just back from vacation and shocked by what I'm reading/seeing...

dolphins 0-3 (disappointing, but let’s be honest, not shocking with our schedule)

cp done for the year and maybe finished in the NFL actually. Sorry to hear that because no matter if you were (or weren’t) a fan of CP, he is a class player and was part of a great season last year.

Thigpen traded to miami…

I like the move to get Thigpen – he’s an infinitely better option than Pat White right now. Thigpen, for his inaccuracy and picks, also makes plays, can run, and put up some points.

Henne: He was the regime’s chosen guy and he got a full year, plus a couple of games, to sit and watch. Now let’s see what Henne does and if he validates the regime’s confidence and our hopes….

by Natalya on Sep 29, 2009 11:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I haven't gotten the chance to weigh in on this, so here we go:

Tyler Thipgen is my favorite young quarterback in the NFL. He took over a hopeless franchise last year, and actually made them into a competitive team week to week (although the awful defense continually lost the games for him). He showed more potential, leadership, and determination last year than Matt Cassel, Matt Ryan, and Joe Flacco, all of whom had someone else to rely on if they struggled. And I imagine that if Henne falters in the next two or three weeks, Thigpen might work his way into the starting job.

I can’t begin to describe how happy I was to hear that the Phins traded to get him.

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by ocelotfox on Sep 29, 2009 11:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You write very well Matty... can't say it enough...

Excellent stuff to get anyone thinking…

For me, it’s all about options… the more the team has the better it can do it’s job… which I think is to keep defenses thinking, rather than reacting…

T-Bone is just another weapon that can be imployed…

Just a thought… Pat could be moved to receiver… just saying.

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by Alpha6 on Sep 30, 2009 1:10 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

lol t-bone

lets at least give pat a chance at QB

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by samdaman on Sep 30, 2009 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thigpen acquisition = Parcells desire to use spread full time in the future

Now having 2 talented and young spread option quarterbacks could be viewed as a huge signal for things to come. Could get very interesting and revolutionary a few years from now.

by Vedder11 on Sep 30, 2009 2:20 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I like

the fact that they brought in a young QB like Thigpen. Puts some good pressure on Henne to step up, so if anything it’ll make both of them better. White will probably stay at #2 so he can be swapped in and out for the wildcat, BUT, if Henne is to go down Thig will get the nod over White.

by Jbailey598 on Sep 30, 2009 2:23 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Here is an Idea...

We Brought in Thigpen, because we needed a 3rd QB on the Roster.
Nothing More, Nothing Less.

No designs of Thigpen Starting…
No trust issues with Henne….

We needed to fill a roster spot..and the Front Office he was the best fit at the time?

Lets not read too much into this people.

by Fr8Train on Sep 30, 2009 9:09 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

also

I think they saw it as a chance to get another guy to develop on the roster on the chance that Henne can’t get it done. I think it’s better than having a veteran come in and then have to start over with the QB search in the offseason. At least now, if Henne doesn’t cut it, we throw another young guy in, see what he has, and the search moves along immediately.

by Little Nicky 21 on Sep 30, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I believe in Pat White

I really want the guy to succeed…I am excited to have this kind of athlete on the team. With that said though…if Henne fails (which for some reason I think will happen) and Thigpen steps in and is solid, I have no problems with that as I’ve been a Thigpen supporter since last year…stupid Patriots ex-employees wanting their own under-talented players…

by UltraMarknus on Sep 30, 2009 9:35 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Thigpen

This trade was made because we cant win with Henne yet and we needed the experience Thigpen brings. Thigpen will be your quarterback as soon as he learns this system. Dolphins are just trying to salvage what is setting up to be a dismal season. I was really afraid that we used up all the enthusiasm that was put into last year. This could prove to be a good move and I would expect nothing less from Parcels. Go Fins!!

by Legend4969 on Sep 30, 2009 9:40 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Henne hasn't even completed a game yet....and

you are already talking about Thigpen taking over?

lol

by Fr8Train on Sep 30, 2009 10:32 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Thigpen

If the couching staff was comfortable after all of preseason with either Henne or White why would they ever give up a draft pick to bring in Thigpen. Wake up Fr8train the season will be past you and you still wont have a quarterback. We’ll just have to wait and see what happens now wont we.

by Legend4969 on Sep 30, 2009 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Legend....what is this Super Tecmo Bowl?

This is the NFL.

Maybe you missed a little bit of recent news. I’ll recap the headline for you:
STARTING QB CHAD PENNINGTON’S SEASON IS OVER…….

We just had our starting QB go out for the SEASON with injury. That leaves a 2nd year QB who has never started a game in the NFL as our starter. It also leaves us with our backup QB as someone who was just drafted, is the size of a small smurf, and hasn’t even come close to being comfortable with the playbook.

I think I can comfortably speak for the Miami Dolphins organization when I say, we needed a 3rd QB on the Roster. Thigpen has started in this league, he’s won games in this league, and he’s young, so he could be on the squad for a long time to come.

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by Fr8Train on Sep 30, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Btw

Tyler had a very very impressive 18-12 ratio (not counting the rush TDs) last season behind a horrible KC offense line and a below average rushing game.

Thats better then Ryan’s 16-11 (who had a much much better team) and Flacco’s 14-12.

Food for thought…

by MoLimits on Sep 30, 2009 10:47 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

so... let me get this straight

Henne is the new Pennington, and Thigpen is the new Henne..

Dolphins fans just looooove backups don’t we? This is already getting more tired than the Chad vs Chad debates…

by Little Nicky 21 on Sep 30, 2009 1:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I feel like a bicycle....

… too tired….

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by Alpha6 on Sep 30, 2009 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Patience

We aint got to show you no stinkin patience, seems to be the theme here. Thigpen is 1-12 in his NFL career or something like that and he is a better option than Pat White. WOW! Tell me he did that on a crummy NFL team, and I tell you Chad Pennington went 0-3 on this year’s Dolphins and that is who Pat White has gotten, what, 3 plays that this fan base has decided to judge him on.

What does the Tyler Thigpen pick up mean? It means we had a quarterback go down and had to get a third string QB. It does not mean the Trifecta have decided Pat White is a bust.

by Sparcells on Sep 30, 2009 1:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It has nothing to do with Henne, or with Pat White...

It has to do with having an Open Roster spot for a 3rd QB.
It has to do with needing a QB who has started a game in the NFL.
It has to do with having a backup who has thrown a Pass in a regular season game (something Pat White has NOT done).

It has to do with so many things…….and NONE of them are about Henne or PW.

by Fr8Train on Sep 30, 2009 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He threw one Fr8Train

I agree with you completely but Pat did throw one pass…it was a deep ball that he overthrew Ginn (one of the few times he beat the defenders and had 2 steps on them) by about 2-3 yards. Showed he had a great arm though!

But I am right there with you on everything else brother!

by Vanman_FishFan13 on Oct 1, 2009 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

T-Bone (Thigpen) is the veteran back-up...

… sure he’s young, but he’s got the experience Pat White does not, and Pat is not ready to go in the game if Henne falls to injury. Period.

… T-Bone is not a cast-off…. he was traded for…. and has the athleticism to perform the Wildcat ahead of Pat because of his skills AND experience. Period.

… there are no Marinos, Elways, Mannings, etc on the waiver wires… so Fahgettaboudit. Period.

I’m moving on….

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by Alpha6 on Sep 30, 2009 4:19 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

A man with a head on his shoulders!!!!

I’m going to rec’ it, just cuz I can.

by Fr8Train on Sep 30, 2009 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thank you

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by Alpha6 on Sep 30, 2009 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

All this says is management is in more disarray than the bloggers on this site!

Last year I thought the Trifecta was starting to be on to something. Now I see that was just a fluke season, with the help of an easy schedule. Now the real test shows they look truly lost out there, practically grabbing for strings. Except for the WC, the offense looks dry & stagnant. The defense looks confused most of the time & out of play. I blame the players & the Coaches, they just can’t get their act together. Sorry I’m not gonna be this fake optimistic person, living in fantasy land. It doesn’t matter who the quarterback is, we are not a good football team. Some like Henne, some like White, & and now some like Thigpen. Let’s be clear I’m impartial here. I’m not bad mouthing any of our QB’s like some people on this site do. They are Dolphins & I just want the best for the team & for them. My whole problem is with the Trifecta. Aside from the one & done year from Pennington(who I have much respect for) , management hasn’t shown any good decisions period! On offense or on defense & that goes with play calling as well (ex:0-3). The decisions that they make leave me more scratching my head than feeling good. Now I hope there decisions from here on out really work, cause I want to see my team win. But I’m realist & I have to express my thoughts & say the things that others won’t say. To busy squabbling about who’s the best quarterback, when in all honesty none these guys are legitimate starters.

by Shinobi_Shogun on Oct 1, 2009 2:27 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh Boy

I think that Fr8train might have left the station too early. I dont think too many people would want you comfortably speaking for the Dolphin organization. We can only hope Henne goes out and plays well the rest of the season since you’ve determined him to be the starting quarterback. I guess we can just wait and see. Must be some other problems since we weren’t doing to swell with Pennington this year. Gotta love the blogging? I think Shinobi made some good points!

by Legend4969 on Oct 1, 2009 8:19 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I didn't determine him to be the starting quarterback....

The Front Office of the Miami Dolphins Organization has already done that…..

Are you kidding me?

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And leader of the God Damn it Henne is the Starter, NOT Pat White, NOT Thigpen
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by Fr8Train on Oct 1, 2009 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Um

The organization decided that Henne is the starter……unless Fr8Train somehow took over those duties within the Miami organization. If that is the case, call me Fr8, I can get on a plane throw some pads on and take over that safety spot for Wilson. LOL

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by Dragon27az on Oct 1, 2009 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why Thigpen?

Do I know what the Thigpen acquisition means? No, but here’s my guess.

The Phins have two offenses installed (the wildcat isn’t an offense, it’s a package), one is the pro set which the Chad’s (now just Chad H) are supposed to run. The other is a spread which is for Pat White. The spread is a pretty simple offense really, just a few base plays with lots of options out of the base. If something happens to Henne (he either gets hurt or just plain sucks) then the season is pretty much a wash and there’s not really a reason to find a pro set QB and teach them our offense in a short time. In that case we just revert to the spread (like KC had to last year when they lost their two pro set QBs) and see if White can compete at the NFL level in the spread. If White gets hurt or sucks then they finally fall back to Thigpen. Now if Henne exceeds all expectations and the Phins go on a streak then I think we might just see Thigpen get the axe in favor of some veteran who could run the pro set down the line if we actually get back into the playoff hunt. They’ve got too much invested in White to cut him and he would never pass waivers to the get to the practice squad. The only way they cut White is if he does get a chance to run the spread and just plain sucks.

by phinswnc on Oct 1, 2009 11:03 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

My fav Thigpen play was preseason of 09 in the rain.

He rolled out to the right, drew 4 defenders who thought he might run.

Thig let ’em all get real close, then turned to the sideline like he was going to glee out of bounds.

Then he tossed a no look flip the the TE in the end zone for a TD !

One fun player to watch.

by WarWolf on Oct 2, 2009 1:36 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

More than they bargained for...

Tyler Thigpen got a horrible rap in K.C. Kansas City lacked major offensive talent, their O-line was almost as bad as 1-15 Miami’s, and their defense failed to put up any kind of stops. Just look at whats happening to Matt Cassel- an undeniable future talent. I think this, for now, is a move to spur production out of White, but Chad Henne must win a few games before he gets set as the franchise quarterback. I don’t see White as long for the Dolphins. Ironically enough, I could see him being traded somewhere like Buffalo. This whole wildcat quarterback is a terrible idea and noone is having any sucess with it. Michael Vick was athletic, but he was still a quarterback-albeit questionable- at heart.

by Farorefox on Oct 2, 2009 2:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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