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The end of one era and the beginning of another

Thanks for the memories, Chad!

Thanks for the memories, Chad!

The big news, other than the Dolphins dropping to 0-3 on the season, to come out of Sunday's loss in San Diego clearly is the season-ending injury to Chad Pennington.  And it's not just ESPN reporting this anymore, either.  Several of the South Florida newspapers have reached out to their own sources to confirm this news.  It's heart-breaking, to be honest, because you never want to see any of your team's players go out like this.  But, of course, there are two sides to this story - one is a negative and the other is a positive.

The end

We'll start with the negative, of course.  Not only is Chad Pennington's season over, but there's also a chance his career could be over.  The way Pennington spoke after the game made it seem like he wasn't exactly sold on having another surgery to his shoulder and then rehabbing it to come back and play.  But who can blame him?  He's already had to do that twice.

What makes this even more terrible is knowing how hard Pennington worked in the offseason doing his best to prevent something like this from happening.  The man readily admitted during the offseason that his workout regimen was harder than it ever has been because he wanted to ensure he'd make it through a full season once again.  So I can't even imagine what it must be like for Pennington right now, heading to a specialist for a second opinion in hopes of finding some glimmer of hope.

That is why I feel compelled to spend some time talking about Chad Pennington.  Some probably think I'm crazy for calling Pennington's one and a quarter seasons with the Dolphins an "era."  But I'll argue long and hard that it indeed was an "era" - and a damn good one.  No, the Dolphins didn't win a Super Bowl - or even a playoff game.  But in the grand scheme of things, that doesn't matter.

Star-divide

The main reason we all watch any sport is for enjoyment.  We enjoy watching our teams play game in and game out.  And part of the reason for this enjoyment is that anything can happen on any given day - or in any given season.  Many would even say that we are a "David and Goliath" society - one that loves rooting for the underdog.

In 2008, the Miami Dolphins were the ultimate underdog.  They had just suffered through a terrible 1-15 season and expectations were at an all-time low.  However, a funny thing happened as summer turned to fall last year - the Dolphins started winning.  And winning.  And winning.  Eleven wins later, the impossible had happened and the Dolphins were AFC East champions.

Like I said, the main reason most people watch any sport is for enjoyment.  For many of you, the 2008 season was probably the most enjoyable season you have ever lived through.  For me, it most definitely was.  No, Chad Pennington wasn't the sole reason for the amazing turnaround.  But he was a damn big part of it.  And there was, of course, some extra satisfaction for Dolphin fans in knowing that Pennington came from a divisional rival who just threw him on the scrap heap - who the Dolphins then visited and beat in week 17 to clinch the division.

Ten or fifteen years from now, when we look back on the Bill Parcells, Jeff Ireland, and Tony Sparano era, it'll be hard to not think about what Chad Pennington meant to this organization in the little time he was here.  Sure, it's up to the front office and coaching staff to change the culture of a team - to instill a winning culture.  But make no mistake about it, Chad Pennington played a bigger role than any of us give him credit for in instilling that winning culture and turning this organization around.

Simply put, Chad Pennington is a class act all the way, a true professional, a leader on and off the field, and genuinely a good person.  And without him, I absolutely believe that the Dolphins do not go 11-5 in 2008.  No, sir - without Pennington, the most enjoyable NFL season of my lifetime - and many of yours - does not happen.

For everything you have meant to this organization in the short time you were here, I say thank you, Mr. Chad Pennington.

The beginning

Now Chad Henne takes over as the starting quarterback of the Miami Dolphins.  It was widely expected that Henne would, at the latest, take over in 2010.  His era now begins a bit earlier than we all had thought.  But for some, it's probably not a moment too soon.

He'll begin in a very good spot, too.  His first career NFL start will come at home against a Buffalo Bills team whose secondary has been hit hard with injuries.  Of course, the road quickly gets tougher for Henne after that game.  But we'll cross that bridge when we come to it.

For now, I do want to just point out one thing in terms of what to expect from me on this site regarding Chad Henne.  Quickly, here's my take.  Some people are already claiming Henne is going to be good.  But I'm not buying it.  After the John Beck disaster, I will not allow myself to buy into the hype of any quarterback just because he's wearing a Miami Dolphins uniform.  I won't be convinced of anything - good or bad - until I see it with my own eyes...not hear it from a "scout" or "expert."

And being perfectly honest, I haven't seen anything from Henne that leads me to believe he's going to be a good NFL quarterback.  I didn't see it in college when I would watch some Michigan games simply because they were on and I was bored.  I haven't seen it in the preseason.  And I didn't see it yesterday when he stepped in for Pennington.

This doesn't mean that I'll never see it.  He has the arm strength you need and he seems to be very calm under pressure in big spots (or, at least he did at Michigan).  I don't think he'll get rattled easily, either.  But I still need to see a lot before I get my hopes up.

We do need to be fair, though.  This week is the first week of his career where he's getting all of the first-team reps in practice.  So it's going to take time.  Let's at least give him that time before making any judgments on his long-term potential.

For Chad Pennington, Sunday was the end of his season - and possibly his career.  But for Chad Henne, Sunday was just the beginning - the beginning of a promising career or of another disappointment.  And only time will tell.

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IT feels kind of weird to have Henne starting.

It feels kind of like graduation. You think about it and how it’s eventually coming, but it’s always “down the road” sometime. Then BAM, it hits you. It’s here—Chad Henne is our starting QB. Weird, but definitely exciting.

"Far better is it to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure... than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much, because they live in a gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat." - Theodore Roosevelt

by Daniel52 on Sep 29, 2009 12:31 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Damn well said Fr8T!

Armchair QB's always complete the pass and armchair coaches always pick the right players.

Yes, Larry Little is still the man.

by Tunaflipper on Sep 29, 2009 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

second that

"Life's a bi*ch but god forbid the bi*ch divorce me"- Nas
"They ask me what I'm writin' for; I'm writin' to show you what we fightin' for"- Talib Kweli

by Davone_Is_BessT on Sep 29, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

amem

BTW, is that a powerful curse or what? Poor CP10. All the best for him.

by Rennie85 on Sep 29, 2009 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

amen

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No hating on Jay Fiedler, please.
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The one and only "ho-nerd"

by samdaman on Sep 29, 2009 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

At least now we can assess our options. If he sucks and doesn’t look like he has an array of hope, there’s always Sam Bradford.

by wolski-08 on Sep 29, 2009 12:33 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

isnt bradford a sophmorez....

what are the chances he actually enters the draft?

GEtSICK 4 JC

by GEtSICK13 on Sep 29, 2009 12:41 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He is

I ve actually met him. A friend of mine is good friends with him…great guy and if Henne sucks Ill be the first to start the “draft Bradford” bandwagon. HIs stock is seemingly falling to with this injury of his…and obviously if Henne sucks it up, well be picking in the top 10 at least

Founder of the "Give Henne A Chance Foundation"

by Enhalen on Sep 29, 2009 12:51 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

His stock will be back up as long as he comes back from the injury ok.

Hopefully that does not happen this week against the Canes.

by texascowpunk on Sep 29, 2009 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I rec'd this

Matty i respect you very much b/c of your quality writing and the time you put in here at the phinsider. I know your not sold on henne yet and none of us should be but what i admired most about this article is how you never really had anything “bad” to say about Henne. To me he is a question, thats it. He is not an answer (yet) but on the flipside he has not been able to become that “answer” we have been looking for at the QB. Most importantly you did not write off this guy and its idiotic that some people here have already said he cant be the future.

I hope he (henne) plays great (maybe as great as that last game he played as a michigan wolverine against the gators) and i also hope he can lift ginn to a higher level because i also believe ginn needs more time then what we as fans are giving him. Ginn is still young and really needs a compliment WR.

by jazztrumpeter89 on Sep 29, 2009 12:48 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i rec'd this as well

i am rec’ing lots today maybe because i just want to point out the more intelligent people here at the phinsider

by jazztrumpeter89 on Sep 29, 2009 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks dude

But wheres my green thumb and green border around my post? I want to intelligence in green dammit!

Founder of the "Give Henne A Chance Foundation"

by Enhalen on Sep 29, 2009 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Woohooo I made the intelligent people list?

Mom will be so proud :) Is there a ribbon? lol

Thanks Jazz….

by Fr8Train on Sep 29, 2009 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

*my intelligence

Founder of the "Give Henne A Chance Foundation"

by Enhalen on Sep 29, 2009 12:52 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If henne does not pan out and pat white does not advance the wildcat, how would tim tebow fit?

by la Roc on Sep 29, 2009 1:19 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Good find

Thanks

'Any time you try to win everything, you must be willing to lose everything.'
Larry Csonka

by OntheGo on Sep 29, 2009 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thats an awesome video

It makes me really wish he didn’t get hurt

by Ham420 on Sep 29, 2009 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That was a great video.........awesome

Thanks for the memories Chad. I wish him the best. He knows the game so well, if he has to retire from this injury. I hope he becomes a coach someday. I think he would be an exceptional coach.

Thanks again…

Boston Dolphins Fan

by miami25 on Sep 29, 2009 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow Matty I didn't post that as a fanshot or anything lol

Don't question my fandominium.
"the notorious D.I.B."- samdaman

by dolphinsinbuffalo on Sep 29, 2009 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Say we finish 8-8 (fingers crossed) I wonder if the type of trade that would need to be made to get a top draft pick would be worth it. I realize I’m speaking to soon because I do hope for the best of henne and white. Just thinking out loud.

by la Roc on Sep 29, 2009 1:48 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't think it's worth it

Because you can still find an explosive player in the middle-late first round, and there are always gems in later rounds. Let’s see what Patrick Turner can do, anyway. Activate him!

Here's to hitting your head jumping off the bandwagon.

by SunDolphin on Sep 29, 2009 9:03 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

if we finish 8-8 why would we need a top draft pick?

8-8 most probably means henne did solid.

"Life's a bi*ch but god forbid the bi*ch divorce me"- Nas
"They ask me what I'm writin' for; I'm writin' to show you what we fightin' for"- Talib Kweli

by Davone_Is_BessT on Sep 29, 2009 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What I saw with Henne

Based on what I saw Sunday with Chad Henne, he can be the guy we’re looking for. The one major issue that I saw, which also happened in the pre-season, is that he’s locking on to his targets. He needs to work on looking off the receiver and progressing through his reads more to fool defenders. This, however, is something that can be learned over time. The only thing I’m concerned about is what I’m always worried about with young QBs on losing teams, line play. You saw it with Beck, he didn’t have the protection, and learned some bad habits. As long as Henne doesn’t develop bad habits that will erode his skill set, he will be okay.

As for Pennington — be careful what you wish for? Some of us(myself included) were calling for a benching, this is not what I had in mind. You always hate it to see a player go down for any reason. Last season was a hell of year, and thanks for an enjoyable season.

by rroan28 on Sep 29, 2009 2:05 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

intrestingly enough

that INT wasnt a result of him locking on to Bess, he just didnt go through his reads quick enough, so taht gave Aaddle a chance to read his eyes and make the pick.

Current Phinsider Feud Points: 23

by Patssuck456 on Sep 29, 2009 9:47 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hell the way Bess catches everything I would be locking on to him too.

I am sure this is something that they will get corrected. Im sure much to his dismay that that piece of tape was shown over and over and over the next day. Good times!

by texascowpunk on Sep 29, 2009 11:44 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Def!

He was glued to Bess all day. I think we’ll see Bess on the field alot more, something I been saying for the last 2 weeks now.

by captain flitzy on Sep 29, 2009 12:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i agree

well it is nice to have a receiver that can hold onto the ball. With Ginn dropping every ball thrown his way, I would rely on a receiver that has solid hands. Even if it is “only” a slot receiver. Time to move him into a more integral part of the offense and ship out Ginn for some more draft picks. Him and his stone hands.

by tightypatwhitey on Sep 29, 2009 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i was very sorry to hear about chad for you guy's...

i want to let you know as a cowboys fan…he was and is a very very good Q.B. and i also think you guys have an outstanding coaching staff and a very talented team..i would much rather play the 3-0 vike’s. over the 0-3 phins….no joke maybe a little less right now that chad’s out..but i think you guy’s have alot to look forward to. anyway good luck and once again sorry to hear about chad..

I don't need a compass to know which way the wind shines....

by hashishkabob on Sep 29, 2009 2:22 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks man!

Very classy comment!

by texascowpunk on Sep 29, 2009 2:24 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

thanks

good win 4 u guys last night
classy football fans are pretty rare

"Life's a bi*ch but god forbid the bi*ch divorce me"- Nas
"They ask me what I'm writin' for; I'm writin' to show you what we fightin' for"- Talib Kweli

by Davone_Is_BessT on Sep 29, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

of course

i meant other phinfans

"Life's a bi*ch but god forbid the bi*ch divorce me"- Nas
"They ask me what I'm writin' for; I'm writin' to show you what we fightin' for"- Talib Kweli

by Davone_Is_BessT on Sep 30, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Henne should be a solid QB for this team

But he cannot do it all by himself.

He’s going to make mistakes and the guys around him are going to have to step up as well. That means Brown and Williams have to take some of the pressure off him by continuing to play well and the receivers have to do their job and made the plays they haven’t been making the first three games.

Ginn is #1 on that list. He dropped two catchable passes from Henne on Sunday and he missed the TD pass last week against the Colts at the end. Good receivers make those catches, but Ginn continues to disappoint.

Fasano was great last season but he hasn’t stepped up in the absence of Martin.

As a Michigan fan, I watched every game of Henne’s college career. He can throw the long ball with the best of them and he’s perfectly capable of handling the starting job and performing well.

by anaconda on Sep 29, 2009 2:30 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Maybe we should move Ginn to kickoff/punt return duty and just leave him off the roster as a WR. He’s good at catching, and good at running, just not good doing both at the same time. Let’s pray he doesn’t try fielding a kick on the run.

Here's to hitting your head jumping off the bandwagon.

by SunDolphin on Sep 29, 2009 9:00 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha

haha… or a catch above his head… or to his hands… or at his chest…

by tightypatwhitey on Sep 29, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I remember..

Watching Chad Henne at Michigan. I saw his very first game that he started as a rookie and I was pretty impressed at the time with his poise and natural ability. Now here we are; The thing about Henne is that he has been a stud on every other level, and this was the first time that he had to sit and wait his turn. He was drafted by this regime so there are no excuses he has to “put up or shut up” and if he sux he can get ripped by fans and the media and its ok.

One thing that I love about football is when a guy gets hurt even though it devastating for him, it gives another guy opportunity to sometimes show that he is better than the sarter was. I’ve seen it many times. I like how it adds to the excitement and anticipation of the next game because no one, not even the coaches know what’s going to happen.

I’m not happy to see Chad P. go out like this, however I’m looking forward to the next few games to see how this turns out. If Chad Henne can take the reigns from an 0-3 season and make this season respectable then we may have a “keeper” for a change.

"If anything goes bad, I did it. If anything goes semi-good, we did it. If anything goes really good you did it. That's all it takes to get people to win football games for you."

Coach Paul Bear Bryant

by AussieKen on Sep 29, 2009 2:34 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Sorry about the injury

I always liked Pennington a lot. He had problems staying healthy, but when he was, he always gave his team a chance to win. I never understood why Jets fans didn’t appreciate him more – just like I don’t understand all the crap Eagles fans say about McNabb. If he retires now, he should be happy about what he has accomplished.

by hythlodaeus on Sep 29, 2009 6:21 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

...it's feels so weird that Henne is starting sunday...

For the rest of the year…it’s going to feel like there’s emptiness in the team.

I will agree with you thought Matty. Give Henne a week or 2 with the first team and he should be good enough.

Your best? Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and fuck the prom queen! -Sean Connery

"Why not us?"- Tony Sparano

by Kdog92 on Sep 29, 2009 6:24 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks CP10

I just wanted to thank Chad for the time and effort that he put into this team. His time here is definately an era Matty because of the attitude he brought to this team but also because of the training that he brought to Chad Henne. Obviously I’m a Penn State guy so I had to deal with Henne for 4 years. There are good points, bad points, and questionable points that can be said about every player in any sport but the best thing that ever happened to Chad Henne was the arrival of Chad Pennington. Not only did Henne have to sit for the first time in his carrier but, more importantly, he got to watch a true professional prepare for game day. Having the ability to play the position is not the same as learning to play the position. Chad Pennington took the time to teach Chad Henne how to study film, how to break it down, what to look for, how to interface with his team mates. All of these things are things that a coach can tell you but when you have been a star all your life you say, ya I know, ya I know a lot and don’t always learn the lesson. Sitting in a room watching a succesful player put in all of that time and effort teaches those lessons so much better. For all of this I thank CP10 for everything he has given to this organization and would gladly welcome him back as a coach or if he would be willing as a back up to Henne next season!

by psurob26 on Sep 29, 2009 6:31 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What’s between his ears is worth more than all the big arms in the world.

Here's to hitting your head jumping off the bandwagon.

by SunDolphin on Sep 29, 2009 8:57 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

great post matty rec'd

cant say enough about pennington. hopefully one day we’ll hold the same sentiments for henne. i think keeping penne in miami under any title or capacity is the key

2009 is a year of respect ladies and gentlemen. Lets get it.

"i think we have to look at it through his shoes" tuscanitunr talkin about brett farve.

13 1/2 phinsider fued points!!!

by MrMedic on Sep 29, 2009 6:43 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

as in back up QB or QB coach

2009 is a year of respect ladies and gentlemen. Lets get it.

"i think we have to look at it through his shoes" tuscanitunr talkin about brett farve.

13 1/2 phinsider fued points!!!

by MrMedic on Sep 29, 2009 6:43 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Do you think

if penne decides on surgery and rehab, that he would now be willing to be a 2nd or even 3rd string QB? Getting paid more than a normal back up, but giving invaluable mentoring to the younger guys?? that might be a little far fetched, just wondering.

2009 is a year of respect ladies and gentlemen. Lets get it.

"i think we have to look at it through his shoes" tuscanitunr talkin about brett farve.

13 1/2 phinsider fued points!!!

by MrMedic on Sep 29, 2009 6:45 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I wish....

But I think The Penn is far to competative to just go ahead and accept a contract as a back up…. I mean just look at the head first dive he took on the opening drive…. He’s a warrior either way

by Bostonboy on Sep 29, 2009 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The way..

Qbs go down in this league, he would have to be ready at all times, and I dont thnk he would do that. If he is on the team, he has to be as healthy if he was the starter, and the way he is, he would torture himself to get so healthy, than want the job. Bring him on as a coach or something, but not as a backup.

by captain flitzy on Sep 29, 2009 12:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thank you chad!

I live in jersey and go to the dolphins/jets game up here every year. ive always liked chad because a few years back i had my baby nephew and chad held him for a picture on his way to the stadiium even after the jets pr people told him not too. he replyed to them he has children of his own and thats he knew how to hold a baby…he was a class act and i was thrilled when he came to our club. i hope for the best for him, his wife, and children in the future…im glad he’ll be coaching henne through this also.

Now, onto Henne. Gotta cool it with the pat white,sam bradford,and everyone else you can think of talks. all they are is the same thing as henne. An unproven player. Chad Henne is esentially a rookie so lets treat him that way…we have 13 games to evaluate him so lets use all 13…hes going to have rough spots and hopefully more bright ones. The most exciting part to me will be to see how the field stretches with him in the game….a couple of connected deep balls off play action and we’ll be seeing alot of ronnie and ricky running over players deep in the secondary. Lets hope for a win this week then a coming out party against that fat slob rex ryans jets!

by DRINKtheGINN on Sep 29, 2009 8:32 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree

Only use White as a starter if it is beyond a doubt Henne can’t handle the position. Not because he’s doing bad, but because he’s not learning to do better or not giving a damn. If he’s trying and improving, Henne should have every game. White in garbage time is fine.

Here's to hitting your head jumping off the bandwagon.

by SunDolphin on Sep 29, 2009 8:54 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Two points

1. I’m not glad this happened, but I’m relieved because now Pennington can go out relatively on top. I know he’s 0-4 in his last 4 as a starter, but no one is going to remember that. I for one will remember 11-5 and that’s the bottom line. Now he can’t have the opportunity to sully that image by throwing up a bad year.

2. This works for the Dolphins becuase I’d much rather test Henne/White through a bad season, one in which there’s no hope of winning anything great, but still have a team capable of winning each Sunday. This is much better than waiting for 2010 when, if it goes bad THEN, we now have 2 lost seasons instead of just one. Find out what we have right now.

Never put off for tomorrow what you can do today, right?

Here's to hitting your head jumping off the bandwagon.

by SunDolphin on Sep 29, 2009 8:53 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

ginn's drops

here’s some food for thought. ted ginn dropped a couple of henne’s passes sunday. how about this, ginn has gotten used to pennington’s, softer, arching passes. while henne slammed the ball in there on a rope. give a week or two, to get used to the way henne fires the ball and ginn will be more used to it. i remember when marino would get a new reciever it would take a while for them get used to how fast the ball got there, and how hard it would hit thier hands. no comparison between marino and henne but just something to think about…..

it is hard to explain why ginn dropped penningtons pass in the endzone, against indy though

lets see what the kids can do……….

thann CP10 for all ya did, get well soon

by frostyphinfan on Sep 29, 2009 9:06 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ginn dropped a lot of passes in college....

He’s dropped a lot of passes since day 1 in Miami.
Its a trend.

by Fr8Train on Sep 29, 2009 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ginn's moment make or break

I agree that Ginn will need a little time to adjust to Henne’s arm but I will also state that if Henne doesn’t produce on occasional deep routes through the rest of this season then it is fair to call him a bust when it’s done. His strength as always been his speed so he has had to learn the little things of short routes as a pro but now he has no excuses! We will wait and see.

by psurob26 on Sep 29, 2009 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

used to happen with Favre

there were always stories in Favre’s hayday about receivers asking him to take a little bit off of his throws because he would beam them in there so fast, sometimes it would just go through a receiver’s hands.

we went out for pizza after the game. -dave wannstedt

by BULLieving in Miami on Sep 29, 2009 11:32 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks Pennington for the great 2008 season

Now to Henne…I can’t shake the false hopes of: Lucas, Feely, Culpepper, Harrington, Beck. Jesus, I think we are really going to know Pennington’s value now. No proven starter at QB and a Defense that should be named the “I can’t believe it’s not butter” defense. Back to rebuilding. Maybe next decade.

12-4 in 2009.

by phatfinfan on Sep 29, 2009 9:23 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

but it IS butter...

… being sliced thru with a hot knife.

hmm, i’m hungry. is it breakfast time yet??

we went out for pizza after the game. -dave wannstedt

by BULLieving in Miami on Sep 29, 2009 11:34 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

this makes me want to cry :(

"check that...the 29th of Feb. this year.....why is that the record day for hits? Did Matty have the Kim Kardashian sex tape or something?"
-Treat
"yes he did. and Jersquall recut it to look like Marino was boning her."
-Treasure

by chrislucas on Sep 29, 2009 9:33 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Chad Henne vs. The Bills

He gets his first career start against the Bills, a division rival and a better Bills team then I though going in. But its not the defense thats all improved its the no huddle defense that worrys me a bit. All in All I think he comes out victorious this weekend…. I hope.

The Patriots Suck

by k2oconnor on Sep 29, 2009 9:38 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Chad Henne

We finally get to see him play, and see if Ted Ginn is the real deal. Just a side note before I get to my main point. We lose Pennys accuracy but gain Hennes arm strength, so I am not giving Ginn another free pass to wait to break out next year…. this is his year he needs to show something.

I have said this since the Fins drafted Henne. I met Mike Tressel (LB’s Coach for MSU, former LB’s Coach at Cinncinatti University) He coached against Matt Ryan, Brian Brohm and Henne. Said Brohm was a product of the system, Ryan could make big plays run one way throw back the other and score a TD, and Henne was the most sound QB, could take the team on his back and win the game… give him some time and I think, hope, he will be good.

The Patriots Suck

by k2oconnor on Sep 29, 2009 9:43 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Is this a riddle?

CP10 is the current leader of this team... respect him
Henne is the future leader of this team...
Beck could have been.. its a shame he was thrown to the wolves unpreped
Driver of the Camarillo, Hartline & Bess fan club bus.. hop on and enjoy the ride!
JT.. Porter.. Wake.. gona getcha !

by MainePhinFan on Sep 29, 2009 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They both came in with 13 game left in the season. :)

CP10 is the current leader of this team... respect him
Henne is the future leader of this team...
Beck could have been.. its a shame he was thrown to the wolves unpreped
Driver of the Camarillo, Hartline & Bess fan club bus.. hop on and enjoy the ride!
JT.. Porter.. Wake.. gona getcha !

by MainePhinFan on Sep 29, 2009 10:53 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

really I dont know.. tell us tell us?

CP10 is the current leader of this team... respect him
Henne is the future leader of this team...
Beck could have been.. its a shame he was thrown to the wolves unpreped
Driver of the Camarillo, Hartline & Bess fan club bus.. hop on and enjoy the ride!
JT.. Porter.. Wake.. gona getcha !

by MainePhinFan on Sep 29, 2009 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dan Marinos 1st start was aginst the Bills and Henne's will be against the Bills as well?

Im guessing this is what you are refering too. I had to do some thinking and searching but after I read that 13 started his first game against the Bills (I was still young at that time and do not remember 13’s 1st couple of years well) I kinda knew this is the answer to your riddle right? What do I get for this? huh? huh?

CP10 is the current leader of this team... respect him
Henne is the future leader of this team...
Beck could have been.. its a shame he was thrown to the wolves unpreped
Driver of the Camarillo, Hartline & Bess fan club bus.. hop on and enjoy the ride!
JT.. Porter.. Wake.. gona getcha !

by MainePhinFan on Sep 29, 2009 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You get an e-pat on the back

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by Patssuck456 on Sep 29, 2009 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Damn that was allot work for just a simple epat on the back..

I was hoping for a nekid chickipoo waiting for me while the mrs is gone at work tomorrow?

CP10 is the current leader of this team... respect him
Henne is the future leader of this team...
Beck could have been.. its a shame he was thrown to the wolves unpreped
Driver of the Camarillo, Hartline & Bess fan club bus.. hop on and enjoy the ride!
JT.. Porter.. Wake.. gona getcha !

by MainePhinFan on Sep 29, 2009 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They're both male..?

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by Alpha6 on Sep 29, 2009 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They're both quarterbacks..?

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by Alpha6 on Sep 29, 2009 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They both are Miami Dolphins..?

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by Alpha6 on Sep 29, 2009 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

They have the same jock size..?

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by Alpha6 on Sep 29, 2009 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Very Heart Felt Post

I agree about Pennigton and that he gave us a great season last year. This is probably his last season ever and I hope he continues doing football because it’s what he loves.

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by dolphanforever on Sep 29, 2009 9:51 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Farewell

I say farewell to Pennington! He brought a lot of excitement to this team. He may not have been the best QB to ever take a snap, he may not have had the strongest throw, but he had more character than ANY player in the NFL. We fans booed him, did he get upset and bad mouth any of them? Never! We he was throw out like last week’s dinner did he throw his teammates (Jets) under the bus? Not even close! Did he hold a grudge? Nope! He was a man of character, and one of the best leaders I have ever seen in a QB – on and off the field. Here’s to hoping to see him on the sidelines as a coach in the near future!

I was calling for a change at QB if we lost this week, but it had nothing to do with Pennington’s abilities. It haf to do with the future of this team. We need a young, franchise QB, and Henne needs to be tested to see if he fits that prototype. So, Henne buckle that chin strap and get out there and play your tail off to show us that you are the answer! And, the rest of the team needs to surround him with support and let him now this is his team now! If Henne learned anything from his tutor it had to be leadership!

by KnoxVegas on Sep 29, 2009 10:16 AM EDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

The best of times

At the end of the year we’ll look back at this time as the best of the season. Sure, no one wants to see CP go down, but everyone including me was dying to know what Henne can do. Now we’re all full of hope because the backup is finally getting a chance. Well, unfortunately 90% of the time the backup was on the bench for a very good reason. Which means there’s a good chance CH will never look as good as he does now.

Good luck, Henne. I hope you’re the one.

by icerob on Sep 29, 2009 10:22 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

(that bit shouldn’t have been crossed out)

by icerob on Sep 29, 2009 10:24 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Henne

I watched many of the games with Henne at QB when he was at Michigan. I was not that impressed with him vs. some other QBs we’ve had there. However, I will say this. He played hurt nearly all of his Sr. year and they overcame a lot that year. When he got healthy for the bowl game, he tore it up. 3 things need to happen for him to be successful;
1) Henne must get pass protection frrom the OL. He’s a pocket passer, not a scrambler.
2) He MUST (and I can’t stress this enough) not stare down his receiver. He needs to learn how to look off safeties and execute play action (which he did well at Michigan).
3) Trifecta must figure out a way to really motivate this guy. I finally saw his desire his Sr. year after Michigan got knocked out of the national title by losing to a dvi. II school. He never let that season die and they won their bowl game.

Go Chad!!

by Big Dawgg on Sep 29, 2009 10:39 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

We still need a #1 reciever

I have faith in Henne but my faith in the recievers are a little weary because I havnt seen any BIG plays yet, I hate seeing dropped passes from Ginn, even if the ball was thrown behind or ahead AS LONG AS BOTH HANDS TOUCHES THE BALL IT IS CATCHABLE. We need a leader in the recieving corps not just a possesion reciever. We need a Steve Smith or Anquon Boldin, Its really hard to wear my dolphins jersey and get critized by these dumb ass raiders fans, chargers fans, cowboy fans. Mr. Tuna we need a playmaking reciever and a middle linebacker

SOOWOOP..........

by B1G SaMoAn TuNa on Sep 29, 2009 10:43 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I seriously hope CP10 comes back and works with the Phins

as a coach or something to that affect. Listening to this guy talk, watching him lead (outside of the deer in the headlights look latley) Listening to the speech he made at Marshal last year was just amazing. The guy has a head, and the heart to win. This team needed a heatbeat last season and we got it in CP10 I want a custom jersy with a simple CP10 on the back.

CP10 is the current leader of this team... respect him
Henne is the future leader of this team...
Beck could have been.. its a shame he was thrown to the wolves unpreped
Driver of the Camarillo, Hartline & Bess fan club bus.. hop on and enjoy the ride!
JT.. Porter.. Wake.. gona getcha !

by MainePhinFan on Sep 29, 2009 10:57 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

... this aint the best for info, but somestimes it's good...

Unless you hold to the “it came from the internet, so its gotta be true” thought…

Check this out… maybe Henne aint so bad, maybe he will be as good as “they” say… I don’t know, but I like this quote… “Henne played his final college game against Florida in the 2008 Capital One Bowl. Henne was named the MVP of the game after he led his team to a 41-35 victory over the Gators and reigning Heisman Trophy winner, Tim Tebow.” I’m not sayin, but I’m sayin….

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chad_Henne

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by Alpha6 on Sep 29, 2009 11:27 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This was the worst

and hardest thing as a dolphins fan i had to go through, Chad thank you we all love repected you and for the first time since Marino we TRUSTED YOU. i was always for you over Henne, but now Henne im all for you, lets go get em, and maybe even make CP10 proud.

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by civwarbuff on Sep 29, 2009 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

From a true man...
“Chad (Henne) will be fine,” Pennington said. “He’s supported me and I’ll support him and he’ll be fine.”

CP10 is the current leader of this team... respect him
Henne is the future leader of this team...
Beck could have been.. its a shame he was thrown to the wolves unpreped
Driver of the Camarillo, Hartline & Bess fan club bus.. hop on and enjoy the ride!
JT.. Porter.. Wake.. gona getcha !

by MainePhinFan on Sep 29, 2009 11:32 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

NICE!

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by Alpha6 on Sep 29, 2009 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes I agree.. Id point out that this shows how much of a leader and a true champion CP10 has been

But I think we all know this already. This is just another in a long line of upstanding things CP10 has said or done while in Miami. Hats off

CP10 is the current leader of this team... respect him
Henne is the future leader of this team...
Beck could have been.. its a shame he was thrown to the wolves unpreped
Driver of the Camarillo, Hartline & Bess fan club bus.. hop on and enjoy the ride!
JT.. Porter.. Wake.. gona getcha !

by MainePhinFan on Sep 29, 2009 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Record...

All the best to CP for what he has done…regarding what someone said about 8-8, I just can’t see this team winning that many games. They are in a huge state of disarray, with no pass defense, little pass rush, a new QB, and no receivers. And if they do have an awful season, this would be the one to have one in, as this team needs as much talent as it can get in the draft…

by oceantracks on Sep 29, 2009 11:41 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes yes.. cus so many of last years draft pics have shown that they are elite players. :)

This teams needs to step up and pay some big change to a true #1 WR first.

CP10 is the current leader of this team... respect him
Henne is the future leader of this team...
Beck could have been.. its a shame he was thrown to the wolves unpreped
Driver of the Camarillo, Hartline & Bess fan club bus.. hop on and enjoy the ride!
JT.. Porter.. Wake.. gona getcha !

by MainePhinFan on Sep 29, 2009 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, it sux CP10 got hurt

i was skeptic when we got him. i never liked him prior. maybe cuz he was a Jet, maybe because it was so fruatrating to watch a QB with little arm strength beat the Fins all the time. i would always be saying, “how the hell is he completing that garbage?!?” but in the end, over the course of last season, i learned to respect CP10 and recognize him as a great QB in this league. not elite, but def underrated. i’m 28, so i have never had anything to celebrate for the Fins, but CP10 helped provide me with something to cheer for with this team last year. and even on that first drive on sunday, he was still earning more and more of my respect with that run, putting the helmet down, moving the chains, bloody nose and all, and just continuing to lead the team. no timeout, no wave to the sideline, just kept trying to get the ball in the endzone. i love that that is going to be my lasting image of CP10. a winner to the bitter end.

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by BULLieving in Miami on Sep 29, 2009 11:44 AM EDT via mobile reply actions   0 recs

0-3, Chad Pennington is Done

Why am I not more upset?

I thought this would be the ultimate doomsday scenario before the season started. Experts across the pro football world were expected a down year. Pennington, as I and many others, kind of thought this would happen to him. It always does.

Well doomsday is here.

Not worried. But I don’t expect an amazing rebound. Just looking for the rookies and 2nd year players to improve. Start looking at the college scouting reports. Just savor the wins because they might be coming few at a time.

As long as we don’t touch 1-15 I can manage.

Oh yeah, the Broncos are still assholes. I expect I major fall from 3-0.

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by DolfinPhan on Sep 29, 2009 11:59 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Henne Should have had 63% completion Sunday

If Ginn catches the 2 balls that weren’t perfect but definitely catchable, Henne is 12 for 19 and the drive (and confidence) continues. 63% is pretty good for coming off the bench in that situation as opposed to 52% at 10 for 19.

Henne will get a full week of practice with the 1st team offense and faces our easiest opponent at home Sunday.

I’m looking forward to being impressed.

by FinTime on Sep 29, 2009 12:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Not saying it will happen, but an interesting thought.

One of my co-workers is a Steelers fan and pointed out to me that When Ben Roethlisberger took over for the Steelers, they were 0-3 and went on to finish the season 13-3. And he didn’t look too impressive in his pre-season work either.

I just thought it was an interesting note.

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by Chupathingy on Sep 29, 2009 12:25 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

agreed

preseason doesn’t mean squat but the Steelers were a much better team.

by Big Dawgg on Sep 29, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Apparently already some dolfans are giving the boot to Henne and the guy hasn’t even scratched the surface. Jeez lets give the guy some time and please judge the total package because apart from our running game, our receivers stink, this is the reason why have struggled so much. We need playmakers, or at least change the play call to offset some weaknesses in the receiving core. Hell at least play Turner and Hartline more now that CP is out.

Regards to CP I take him as my QB any day of the week, don’t give a damn if he’s arm strength is not strong, the guy is a winner, a true leader and he really made an impact last season. Too bad and i hate to see him get injured like this. A new era begins perhaps good, perhaps bad, who knows.

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by Finnatic on Sep 29, 2009 12:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I didn't see anything...

…about Kurt Warner, Jake Delhomme, or Tony Romo in their college careers that impressed me too much either. Nor did Tom Brady distinguish himself during his tenure at Michigan. So much of what makes a great QB in the NFL has little to do with their college career. Even if you look at the schools with supposed “pro style” offensive schemes, the results are still very hit and miss when it comes to finding a QB on draft day (or the day/week/month after the draft). I think the best thing Chad Henne has going for him is David Lee, Dan Henning, Tony Sparano, Jeff Ireland, and Bill Parcells. And Chad Pennington. After Pennington went down, there was a shot of him whispering into Henne’s ear before the new QB took the field. I would love to know what he was saying at that time. I have a feeling it was something that would make us all respect and miss Pennington that much more.

As for me, the season starts this Sunday in Miami, against Buffalo. I’m taking the same attitude I took during week one of last season. Just show me steady improvement, a competitive, physical team, and an attitude that conveys the expectation to win every game they’re in, and I’ll be happy…for now.

Go Dolphins.

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by lancelotlink on Sep 29, 2009 12:47 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

Thanks CP10!!!

CP10 has been the best QB we’ve had since Marino,and I hate that his season and maybe career has ended.Bringing him in has been by far the best move made by the trifecta.In my opinion drafting Henne last year and White this year was a waste of a second and third round pick…and I really hope I’m wrong on Henne, but I don’t think I am.I have supported the Phins since I was a kid, and I’m not gonna stop now. I hope Henne proves me wrong…and I hope our defense toughens up and we win some games.The trifecta needs players they have hand picked to prove themselves worthy,and they need to show last season wasn’t a fluke.
GO PHINS!!!!!!!!!!

by wengman42 on Sep 29, 2009 12:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

QB situation?

Honestly, I’m still more concerned about our pass coverage. Our running game is solid enough that Henne can play at an average level and we will still make progress. We just picked up Tyler Thigpen apparently, interesting move.. good to have a back up plan

by T3Sgavin on Sep 29, 2009 2:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Mr. CP10

I just want to thanks CP10 for all that he has done for this team and for the fans. The guy is a class act all of the way, especially in the way that he has tried to help Henne since day one knowing that Henne would eventually be taking his job…..and did he ever complain? Did he ever say how it didn’t matter who the other QB’s on the roster were? Did he ever complain when his role was some-what limited by the Wildcat? NO! Why is that? Because he was, and is, a true leader on and off of the field. The guy would even stay after practices with his WR/TE’s just to try and keep building chemistry and to make them all better. Take sunday for instance, guy just got smashed near the goal line and blood is running down his face….it never even fazed him, he simply wiped it away and went back to doing what he tried to do best in trying to lead them to a victory. I can name all of the QB’s we have had since Marino retired, but I can only put CP10 in a different category from the rest. I havent truly enjoyed a finz season in a long time until CP10 arrived last year. I know he will continue to help PatCat and Henne for the rest of the season, and I am sure that we should expect nothing less from him. Thank you Chad for bringing the sun back to Miami when it had been so overcast for years! Whether he plays again or not, I hope this organization will keep him around….whether it is a #3 QB or a coach, CP10 can only help contribute good things to this team…as he has since his arrival last year. Best of luck in your recovery and I hope to see you in Aqua again!

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by Dragon27az on Sep 29, 2009 2:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

great write up. Chad Pennington was an era

and he was one of the greatest things that could have happened to our team.

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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Sep 29, 2009 2:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I WISH THE BEST FOR YOU CP10!!!

You brought us Fin Fans some great memories!!!

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by Heater OsE on Sep 29, 2009 4:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

amen matty

best luck to Cp

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by samdaman on Sep 29, 2009 4:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I am still tearing...

After all I’m a woman. I will really really miss Chad Pennington. when you get better, the Fins should hire you.

Just wish the “haters” would show up here and show a bit of class toward such a classy QB.

by snorky on Oct 1, 2009 10:23 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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