The latest on Chad Pennington: Done for the season
by Matty I on Sep 28, 2009 3:12 PM EDT
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PrintAccording to ESPN's Chris Mortensen, who likely has good sources within the Dolphins organization thanks to his relationship with former ESPN employee Bill Parcells, Chad Pennington has a torn capsule in his throwing shoulder and will miss the remainder of the season. But Pennington will seek a second opinion from the famed Dr. James Andrews - the same guy who performed Chad's two other shoulder surgeries - before making any final decisions.
We probably should have expected this news after watching Pennington's body language on the sidelines yesterday. He's a guy who has suffered through two serious shoulder injuries on his throwing shoulder to begin with. So he knows what a "serious issue" would feel like as it happens.
Pennington initially suffered a dislocated right shoulder on the field - which the training staff immediately had to pop back into place. The question, though, was if the dislocation caused any further ligament damage - such as a torn rotator cuff - as the joint was coming out of place or being moved back into place. One of our community members who has gone through this and explains it well in this fanpost.
Pennington had an MRI done this morning and the results clearly aren't good.
I had a bad feeling about this all day - especially after hearing WFAN's Mike Francesa give us a little insight. Why is anything a New York sports radio host says relevant to the Dolphins? For those that don't know, Francesa is a big fan of Chad Pennington as a person and is hoping for the best. He's also a long-time personal friend of Bill Parcells. And though Francesa didn't have any concrete news at the time, he did say that the feeling he has gotten is that Pennington's injury is a serious one. He said there isn't too much optimism within the organization for Pennington at this point. As it turns out, Francesa looks to be dead on accurate here.
At his morning press conference, head coach Tony Sparano did not rule out the possibility of Chad Pennington playing in week four. He simply told the media, "I won’t rule anything out. We’ll wait and see."
But this news basically means it's now time for Chad Henne to go out and make us all believers.
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A big yes
I am not a Henne fan, but prolonging this is pointless. The Dolphins know two things:
1 They need to find out if Henne can play
2 They know they wouldn’t have gone to the SB this year so CP playing all year is forestalling the inevitable.
Take it for what it’s worth, but Chris Mortensen is reporting that Pennington has a “torn capsule” in his throwing shoulder and is out for the year – but he’s seeking a second opinion.
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by Brian Galliford on Sep 28, 2009 3:21 PM EDT reply actions
No
Pat White. I have no confidence in Henne whatsoever. None. He proved all I needed to see in the preseason last year and this year. Oh and not to mention the game yesterday. Henne will soon prove enough that he will not be the future and we will have to look for something else. If he doesn’t prove that then I’ll be enthused and happy to have him for the future.
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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Sep 28, 2009 3:21 PM EDT reply actions
yay! another white fan
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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Sep 28, 2009 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
That's kinda racist ;)
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lol not cool
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I am a fan of White too.
But I don’t want White to be a John Beck… he needs snaps with the first team in practice before he can take over on game day. Give Henne a few games to try and develop a rhythm with Ginn.
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yeah that I can agree with.
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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Sep 28, 2009 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions
NO BECK
You all knew that I was gonna throw this in there….since people continue to bring him up! John Beck sucks!!!!
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we should use white like the eagles use vick
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Hows that. He has not done anything with the Eagles yet.
by texascowpunk on Sep 28, 2009 9:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Well I guess thats how we're using him, lol.
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by uncle finster on Sep 28, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions
damn, i meant just use him for wildcat and stuff like that
and let him do stuff besides hand off the ball
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ehh I dunno
from what I’ve seen out of White and Vick so far this year is that they stall drives. The team uses them with the idea that they can add another playmaking dimension to the offense, but the reality is that it just takes everybody out of rhythm, and more often than not results in a negative play. I’d rather Ronnie run the Wildcat, and Henne run the base offense. Use PW as a receiver. Stick him in the slot, throw him some screens where he can use his best attribute (run ability), and occasionally throw a double pass with him. He can be a great weapon, but I don’t think it’ll be from under center.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Sep 29, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions
sad sam :-(
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You thought White was better in the preseason?
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by uncle finster on Sep 28, 2009 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Not nearly as bad as White,
and what is your definition of atrocious, maybe White was atrocious, but not Henne, he just wasn’t great.
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by uncle finster on Sep 28, 2009 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions
better than henne
by a little bit
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You can't be serious dude, lol,
White had a 18 QB rating in the preseason, he had a hard time hitting guys on 5 yard routes, he was every bit of awful, I know your a big fan dude but that is just not realistic.
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by uncle finster on Sep 28, 2009 9:43 PM EDT up reply actions
These guys saying White was better then Henne in pre season simply never watched White or Henne this pre season
If they had wached White play at all.. or read anything about training camp and didnt listen to a few people say White is the next Vick only BETTER then they would know that he sucked worse then Debbie on all those famous movies based in that town where the Cowboys are from!
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Beck could have been.. its a shame he was thrown to the wolves unpreped
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fine finster, u win this time
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But I'm not happy about it.
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by uncle finster on Sep 29, 2009 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions
at least someone does
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But you SAW something from White?
I seem to be asking this allot this season.. Have you actually been WATCHING the games? White is NO WAY NEAR ready to play and has not even shown a glimps of anything outside of being able to run the ball so far. I just people who praise guys who are unproven.
5 months ago it was all about V Davis….. and where is he now? Playing some, however still has not made ANY impact at all.
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Henne is the future leader of this team...
Beck could have been.. its a shame he was thrown to the wolves unpreped
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BREAKING EFFING NEWS
Pennington is done for the year. Its official. Just saw on ESPN scrolling bar
:-(
A hero has fallen
so long, chad
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yea, but a less-cool chad
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Yes it is time
to see what he can do and IF Penne becomes or is healthy trade him for whatever we can get. Personally as hard as it is I am hoping for losses to improve our draft position to get a defense.
When will T.S. realize we need to run 65+% of the time??? geesh!@!!
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thanks for everything chad
looks like ur time is done in miami. we’ll miss u
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I wonder if the injury is bad enough if he does not just retire.
by texascowpunk on Sep 28, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah I've been thinking that myself. I'm heartbroken as is but that might be what makes sense.
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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Sep 28, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Hes had a respectable career.
I think he has a head for the game. He can continue on in the league as a coach at some level.
by texascowpunk on Sep 28, 2009 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions
he would be great at it
that’s for sure
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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Sep 28, 2009 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions
yea, i agree
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let him retire a phin
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thats what I hope for too
that way it still makes sense when I wear my jersey lol
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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Sep 28, 2009 9:19 PM EDT up reply actions
CP gave us a great season last year...
…lets not forget without him we wouldn’t have gone from 1-15 to 11-5 and AFC East Champs. Thanks Chad!
I seriously cannot believe some of you want Pat White
Look i’ll say it. He SUCKS! I hope one day he develops the skills to play QB but no way in hell do I want him playing QB for us now. I assume we’ll look to acquire a veteran backup now
Pat White
tried to toss me my car keys from 3 feet away. They ended up on the roof of the house, he’s that accurate.
weird
that is crazy because i was 5 feet away and my keys ended up on the ground a foot and a half in front of my right foot and 2 feet to the right
by tightypatwhitey on Sep 28, 2009 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions
i wish he didnt have to get hurt...
but in reality this is a good thing. now nobody gets their feelings hurt
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Thanks Chad for one of the best dolphins years of my short time. You are a leader, and very good role model for young people across the world…
Seriously...
of my short time
… you’re ok, right? I mean, you’re not dying, right?
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I can't tell you how many times my Jets fan friend has told me...
… dude, Pennington has never put together two straight healthy years… enjoy the first one, cause he aint gonna give you a full second…
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I heard that too
From a jets fan. i told em that they didn’t know what they were talkin about. who’s eatin some crow now?
As for Henne, even though he threw the ball beyond the line of scrimmage, look at what that play would give the team. Someone compared him to Big Ben Rothelesberger(sp?) I saw a glimpse of that minus the mistake of throwing two yards(one step) too late. I’m not saying that the team is gonna turn things around, instantly with the scedule they face after buffalo, but there is alot of hope for this sunday to win. Both Donte Whittner and Leodis McKelvin will be out most likely, McKelvin for sure. That should free up our recievers to some bigger plays this week than they’ve had all season. The onus is going to be on our offensive line to protect Henne against Schobel and The rest of buffalo’s pass rush
damn jet fans
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Think of it this way
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by texascowpunk on Sep 29, 2009 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions
thats tru!
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thats tru!
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That's a lot of money to tie into three QBs
Henne – 2nd Round
White – 2nd Round
New QB – FIrst Round
Ouch!
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We won't draft a QB next year....
no way.
They’ll let Henne go a full offseason around him, and a full season after before even considering acquiring another QB
sorry bud, as much as i like henne
i see the same thing happen with him like all the rest of the quarterbacks who have don the phins jersey. Unitil we use a high first round pick on a quarterback we will never compete!!
They will sick with henne for a least two years and see were we go.
Its his show now. Good luck to him.
To CP10 that was an amazing turn a round last year. He deserves much of the credit. Wish him the best
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Now that you mention the Saints----
wasn’t it just a few years ago that we had a chance to sign Brees, but instead decided to go after Culpepper? Guess we chose wrong lol.
by blackadder_650 on Sep 28, 2009 8:51 PM EDT up reply actions
STOP BRINGING THIS UP PEOPLE!
Please, please, please stop!
by texascowpunk on Sep 29, 2009 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
somebody make a fanpost
of every good player we missed on.. then we can take all the “woulda coulda shoulda” bitching there
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by Little Nicky 21 on Sep 29, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I just think that there should be some stead fast rule that thats the one
player who can never, ever, ever be brought up again. Its the one move that I need to forget in order to continue a normal life. Please help me with this people! Really, does anyone need to be reminded of this painful episode in team history?
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You mean a HIGH 1st round pick on a qb like we did with Dan Marino?
LOL LOL LOL
If Im not mistaken wasnt Danny Boy the last QB pic in the 1st round? #27 overall.
Or how about Tom Brady a 6th round pick.
Just because your a 1st round pick (cough GINN) does not mean you are going to produce in the NFL.
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which will be the first overall pick if he doesn't play great, what with the schedule we have!
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I like Chad Pennington a lot. If he has that kind of ligament damage then…
Not looking good… Even long term.
He’s a tough guy and has come back from worse. Let’s hope.
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Well, he does have that modeling gig.........
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Not surprised....
It is the year after a good year for CP10. Poor dude…can’t put two good years together. Hope he can come back…maybe his third Comeback Player of the Year? If not…QB coach?
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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Sep 28, 2009 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I would love it
I think he has great potential to do it. Kinda like Garrett when he retired….
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yeah lets just hope we get him.
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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Sep 28, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Move David Lee
to OFF corr and CP to QB coach… It wont happen but he would be great at it.
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because that's the only way Pat White will ever be a starting QB
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by Little Nicky 21 on Sep 28, 2009 11:36 PM EDT up reply actions
exactly
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You guys wanted Henne. Now you got him.
What a terrible day. I’m going to go eat my feelings away. :(
by JP 23 on Sep 28, 2009 3:53 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
It scares me
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that scares me
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We didn't want him like this.
I still say he’ll be good. I’ll eat crow if I’m wrong. Will you do the same?
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by The Phinisher on Sep 28, 2009 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions
... do you guys like your own foot...?
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This sucks. It really does.
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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Sep 28, 2009 3:54 PM EDT reply actions
Something kinda funny....
No real place to post it, so I will just post it in here, to maybe lighten the mood…
In between the last two Lions wins, Brett Favre has played for three teams and retired twice…
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What a way to end..
Thanks for everything Chad! Last year was incredible and will never be forgotten. This was inevidable (the change to Henne), it’s just too bad it had to happen like this. It’s likely that yesterday was his last game of the year…and with this team.. and possibly his career. This hurts but it’s probably much worse for him..
At 0-3 it’s hard to think that Henne can make a serious run for the post season but if we don’t have hope and faith, then what do we have? At least get some quality learning and progressing experience and hopefully the team can rally around him and put together something good. As long as we can stay somewhat competitive and not see the team pack it in, then I’m okay with this… let’s just stay positive.
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yes, i'm back.. it's been many months
last post was end of last year.. I hate to seem like (one of those guys) but a lot of stuff happened and I’ve been out of the game (and everything else in life) for a lonnnng time now..
but I"m glad to see this site and it’s fans are thriving!
Way to keep up the good work Matty
by dolphinsfan4life on Sep 28, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Veteran QB
Who is out there for us to pick up as our third QB? I’m trying to think of QBs who are unsigned and wanting to play. You think they’ll bring Drew Bledsoe out of retirement? Hehe.
lemon is a free agent right now
but what about garcia? he’s not going to play at all for philly it seems, and he’s an awesome backup that’s capable of starting
Sage Rosenfels
Better than any of the above options, and stuck behind Favre, and Tavaris Jackson
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Yeah,
I think hes a servicable back up.
by texascowpunk on Sep 29, 2009 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions
We'll never have to take the QB off the Field cause of the wildcat.
And we’ll run the ball all game long and waste clock. That won’t kill drives our drives because of putting in Pat White. And it gives us a legitimate playmaker on offense!
Or better yet! If your still mad about the dogs, what about Vince Young? Lol
by JP 23 on Sep 28, 2009 5:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I could care less about the dogs.
I care about him breaking numerous federal laws, state and county laws, lying to his coach, the team owner, the NFL Commissioner, the authorities, the FBI, and more.
He doesn’t deserve a starting shot.
Quit crying. This is football. Your going to watch anyways. Your going to cheer him on everytime he scores a TD!
Your going to watch aslong as we’re winning. So quit the crap. He already surved his time. The Law says he’s surved his time!
On a lighter note, I also like Vince Young. He would be perfect as well.
by JP 23 on Sep 28, 2009 5:11 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Yup, he served his time...the only thing he has earned
his is freedom. Not a job in the NFL….but, it doesn’t matter what i think. Goddell blew it on this one.
moving along….not a VY fan either….. next option?
VY would never have lost his job had he not gotten injured.
He is still talented.
Those are the only two player who can make this team better and will come cheap, meaning not having top give up high draft picks.
by JP 23 on Sep 28, 2009 6:34 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Not sure I trust VY
I mean, is a team going to follow a QB that had the police called to search for him because the a friend and counselor thought he might consider offing himself?
What part of that screams Leadership?
I agree.
I know he served his time but his crime turns my stomach. I dont care what he or anyone else says. What kind of a person could do what he did?
by texascowpunk on Sep 28, 2009 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions
im for it!
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…. he’s still throwing the ball, just in case…..
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With Tim Tebow now almost guaranteed to fall to the 5th round...
Should the Fins take him in next years draft? I mean, with Henne, White, and Tebow, one of these guys has to emerge as the QB of the future right?
by JP 23 on Sep 28, 2009 6:44 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
not neccessarily
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by Davone_Is_BessT on Sep 28, 2009 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions
I heard a GM once say that a team should draft a QB every year even if its in the last round.
Eventually you will hit on one and if you already have one then you have another if and when he goes down. There may be something to that theroy.
by texascowpunk on Sep 28, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions
well...
not to kick anyone while there down but…
we shoulda known this was gonna happen. might have gotten a high draft pick for him predraft time, now its 2 late.
as a dolphins fan, im hoping this is a blessing in disguise and that such a loss will turn into an oppurtunity for chad henne. never really liked henne but hopefully he will surprise us all and be the future of our team.
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by Davone_Is_BessT on Sep 28, 2009 4:06 PM EDT reply actions
Well Said.
This was a predictable occurance. Pennington has never played two complete seasons back to back and there was no reason to think that he was going to this year. If Pennington was going to get hurt, in a way, I am glad that it happened early in the season. Now the phins have 13 games to try and find their next franchise QB. Hopefully that guy, either Henne or White, is on the roster. If not, there is always the 2010 draft (Stafford, Tebow, McCoy, Clausen). There will be plenty of good ones available.
stafford again in the draft???????
u mean bradford i think, personally out of those 2010 qbs i think only 1-2 will be good nfl qbs. so the draft class IMO for franchise qbs isnt looking to good unless we get a top 5 pick which is a sad thought but is possible
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by Davone_Is_BessT on Sep 28, 2009 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions
wouldnt suprise me
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by Little Nicky 21 on Sep 29, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions
No way we draft a QB next year....
No matter what Henne does this year, the Front Office is going to want a full offseason program to develop the playbook around his abilities that they discover this year.
seeing what they did with mr john beck
i dont see them givin henne that chance if they didnt give beck it. we might still let henne start next year but not without draftin a qb in the 1st two rounds
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by Davone_Is_BessT on Sep 28, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Remember they did not draft Beck
There is no way they draft a QB in the ist or 2nd round next year…To many other needs. They will give henne time to develop
Boston Dolphins Fan
um ya who did we draft in the second round this year?
we still had huge needs this year, such as safety and ILB and NT
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by Davone_Is_BessT on Sep 28, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed!
If Henne proves he can’t play in the league, a very real possibility, I don’t think this FO would hesitate to draft another QB. Especially if the phins get another high draft pick, potentially top 10.
You keep drafting the position until you get it right. QB is the most important position on the field and the surest way to be a consistent winner is having a franchise QB.
and thanks to the horrendous 07 year we have a franchise LT
which is ONE of the keys to a QBs success.
lets juz hope it doesnt take another lousy season for us to get another franchise player
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by Davone_Is_BessT on Sep 28, 2009 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions
It'd be nice if they got Henne some receivers in the draft... no?
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it'd be better
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Agreed
If a receiver of Brandon marshall or Anquan Boldin’s caliber becomes available, you make the move. I don really care how its done or if the player has issues at this point
agreed
are we rebuilding a football team, or a christian sunday school. At this point we need a bad boy on the team. We need to develope an attitude with some intesity in the recieving game.
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Boldin's issues have all been with the
front office. Hes a good locker room guy and always goes out there and plays.
by texascowpunk on Sep 28, 2009 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions
You could say the same about Owens....
Every time he leaves, his old Teammates talk about how great of a teammate he was… never has an off the field issue….ever.
Not saying I want him…. maybe 2-3 years ago.
Yeah, I live in the Dallas area and thats not compleatly true.
There are some that support him and many others that admit that he was a locker room cancer.
by texascowpunk on Sep 28, 2009 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I dont know.
I dont think this year should be about bringing in almost used up players. We really need to take this time to look at all the young guys we have and get ready for next year.
by texascowpunk on Sep 28, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Marvin wants to get PAID
thats coming from Dungy….. and probably the main reason he’s unemployed right now.
i'll pay im
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maybe crabtree
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Actually, Oakland Drafted Beck.
but in a sneaky Al Davis kind of mood, he snuck him on the roster, and we got screwed…… NFL films will chronicle it one day.
The Beck Identity….
Possibly some good news?
Article from the AP that says two of the Bills DB’s are out. Could be a good way to help with the confidence of Henne, going against second string DB’s.
ted ginn- all eyes on u
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by Davone_Is_BessT on Sep 28, 2009 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Henne and Teddy Ginn .. I hope we hear that combo being called out a lot
espcially with a guy that doesn’t have a “noodle arm” now throwing him the ball. I love Pennington for what he has done but I am also somewhat excited to see what can be done moving forward with Henne
the question is...
seeing those 2 consecutive drops when henne opened fire on ginn has me doubting if he has the hands to be able to catch from a strong armed qb. and can henne be more accurate than penny on the deep balls? we all know ginn is not gonna go up and get it
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by Davone_Is_BessT on Sep 28, 2009 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions
Camarillo says..."hands?... hands?... I don't need no stinkin hands..!
I catch with my ass…!!
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lol
maybe we can seperate him from his ass, and he can play 2nd reciever and slot at the same time. i guess his ass would be in the slot.
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by Davone_Is_BessT on Sep 28, 2009 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Cam doesn't even have to turn to catch the pass, Henne can just aim for Cam's ass and the DBs will be totally fooled!
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Yeah, but it'll be....
Henne drops back….throws a bomb with some zip on it (thats for Lefty), and hits Ginn in stride, right on the hands…… wait… Ginn doesn’t have it…OH NO. Hit him right on the hands…..lets look at the replay. It looks like….yes…Henne even put velcro around the ball before he released it….and Ginn’s Velcro gloves….it just didn’t stick.
back to the drawing board guys.
basically what i said
in a more creative way…
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by Davone_Is_BessT on Sep 28, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions
we've just gone back to the future.
Im going to miss chad pennington. What he did for this team, its moral and confidence can not be overstated. he was a huge part of instilling a winning culture in south florida. Hopefully he liked south beach enough that they can talk him into staying as a qb coach. If you could attach his brain to chad henne’s body…….they have pretty good sugeons down there at UM right??
2009 is a year of respect ladies and gentlemen. Lets get it.
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I really hope Pennington coaches for us. He’s a mind.
Here's to hitting your head jumping off the bandwagon.
Henne
well Henne has 13 games to prove that he can play, if he does than we win 6-8 games, and get a pick thats around 12-16, if he stinks up the place and only get 3 wins and he looks lost and awful we have a top 5 pick and can finally get a QB of the future
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by The Phinisher on Sep 28, 2009 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
who do you cut
Bell and Wilson are both in the 1st years of long term contracts. Hope he plays FS cause both our guys are SS only. We need LB’s more than anything. JT and JP will most likely be gone next year and Crowder and Ayodele aren’t going to lead this team anywhere.
by crossborderFISHingtrip on Sep 28, 2009 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Thank you for an amazing year Sunshine!!!
now’s its time to put the ear phones on and start coaching!!!
u havent been here long enough
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by Davone_Is_BessT on Sep 28, 2009 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Sunshine
is Joey Porter’s nickname for Pennington.
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by The Phinisher on Sep 28, 2009 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
why u tellin me i already know
fr8 doesnt
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by Davone_Is_BessT on Sep 28, 2009 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions
o ive been around since before the live comment update system and the whole site revamping
just recently decided to make an account and join the community though
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by Davone_Is_BessT on Sep 28, 2009 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Time for Ginn to man up.
He needs to stop avoiding contact, and go for some of these balls that are “just out of his reach”, but that ANY other reciever in the NFL would get a handle on. Unless he learns to take a hit, he won’t be fielding punts or kickoffs.
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He didn't field any punts or KO yesterday, didn't you notice?
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let the henne era begin
Never want to wish injury on anyone, but I’m glad that it happened. We arent talented enough to win a SB so lets see what we got w/ Henne. Alot of other QBs are doing better w/ less experience. Theres no excuses for him now.
excuse: nfl's toughest schedule, inconsistent o-line, zero defense, no off season with 1st team
many excuses.
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by Davone_Is_BessT on Sep 28, 2009 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
What I'm worried about
i’m worried that if Henne doesn’t do good, our coaching staff will give him another shot next year without trying to either draft and QB or make moves for one…. i got to admit that i’m worried about our coaching staff this year..
I know right.
cause of all the changes from the coaching staff from last year that happend we don’t know what’s going on……
oh wait…..
It is time for Ginn...
theres no doubt about it. But Henne’s eyes were glued to Bess everytime he had the ball. Some might say crazy glued, some like ooo, i dont know, Eric Weddle??? But in all seriousness, I think he’s really gonna rely hard on Bess, he looked like he was favoring him big time.
No Thanks to Jake Long
For the record, that was Jake Long again getting mowed over.
Draft
Is it already bad to be thinking about the draft next year? I feel like that is the next time to get excited. Not that I want to wash this season, but or Defense is playing less than spectacular, Ginn was the worst number 1 draft pick ever, and we can’t seem to scout a good quaterback from college.
On the bright side, I hear that Dan Marino might be taking 1st team reps in practice starting Tuesday.
by tightypatwhitey on Sep 28, 2009 5:14 PM EDT reply actions
So Long and Farewell
Thanks for everything Penny. You’ll be missed but it’s not like we’re surprised.
I just hope that on our first offensive play from scrimmage against Buffalo, we send Ginn on a deep route and fire away. Even if we miss (drop?) or get intercepted, we need to put some fear in the DB’s to keep them honest.
by crossborderFISHingtrip on Sep 28, 2009 5:28 PM EDT reply actions
OMG this site is blowing up right now
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2009 is a year of respect ladies and gentlemen. Lets get it.
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Depending on whether Penne decides to retire or not...
If he does, it’ll be interesting to see if the FO offers him some sort of position to coach. I think his knowledge of the league and solid preparation skills from a veteran’s perspective are still a benefit to have around to mentor the young QB’s and WR’s we have. Either way, he’s been nothing but a class act and has represented the Dolphins professionally in every way.
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by texascowpunk on Sep 28, 2009 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
for all i kno, jet fans hate him
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i wish...
we had matt ryan instead of Long…..even if it ment we sucked in 08 or future would be alot brighter!
who knows how ryan would have turned out with us
if we got ryan that would mean no jake long, no franchise LT means bad qb play most of the time. we also didnt have roddy white.
so even the expression that “hindsight is always 20/20” may not apply here
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by Davone_Is_BessT on Sep 28, 2009 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions
we would have him for many years not just last year or this year
sam baker isnt the worlds best LT and he seems to keep ryan up just fine.
by CaliPhinsFan on Sep 28, 2009 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions
No way
So sick of this Ryan, when Atlanta needed him to win the game he sucked big time at New England.
He is a good but not great QB yet, and he has an excellent supporting cast (true #1 receiver, best TE in history and one of the best rushing attacks in the game). Don’t compare please.
Henne is now thrown into a not so great situation, just hope the line holds up well and we get enough plays on Defense to help him.
Go Henne!
no, long is better for the future
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hate to do it
but I gotta disagree.. Knowing what we know now about Matt Ryan, he would be better for our future. Regardless of what he has around him, he’s shown that he’s a good QB. Long was a good pick, and at the time, I argued that it was the right pick, because nobody was really sure about Ryan, and we couldn’t afford to miss on that pick. Jake Long will be a great LT, but IMO, it’s always better to have a top-flight QB than anything else.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Sep 29, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions
u always disagree with me!
and i’ve done so much 4 u
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I think you definately have to look at whats harder to find.
A franchise QB is DEFINATLY harder to find!
by texascowpunk on Sep 29, 2009 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Define franchise.......
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The kind if guy that when you get him you know hes your guy for at least the next 10 years.
I lot of teams get a guy that they think will get them by but they are still out there looking to upgread if possible. You get a Manning, Marino, ect then you know that you are set untill they can no longer go.
by texascowpunk on Sep 30, 2009 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
:'(
I hope Chad comes back as a QB coach next year (and David Lee finally moves up to OC). I love the guy!
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I'm glad it went down this way.
We get to move on without benching a team leader.
Show me what you got Henne.
Ted Ginn must go.
So what happens now if CP10 retires?
If he’s out for the season and decides to retire, can he retire freeing us a roster spot?
Ted Ginn must go.
I beleive
he goes on IR, which frees up a roster spot. No need for him to retire.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Sep 28, 2009 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Thats true but if the injury is as bad as some think it may be then
it may be time to retire. Of course he wont do that untill the end of the year so he can continue to pull his salary.
by texascowpunk on Sep 28, 2009 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions
right
whether he retires or not, I have no idea… just know that he doesn’t NEED to retire to open a roster spot for us..
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by Little Nicky 21 on Sep 29, 2009 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Yes this I am well aware of.
I hope everyone knows that.
by texascowpunk on Sep 29, 2009 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions
Just got home and my mom told me the news when i was in the car...
Dude this sucks…when things couldn’t possible get any worse…we lose CP.
I don’t think he’ll play again after this year. He’ll have no arm.
Now is the Henne era…I hope we’re ready…
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Hey...
Just look at what BIG BEN did for the Steelers…in his rookie season.
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Good news for White, bad for Henne (and worse for Penny)
Since, as we all know, the most popular QB in a team with QB woes is always the backup. I predict White will finish the year as a fan favorite, with fans screaming for him to get a chance.
Darn, I feel bad for Penny, And for us.
white doesnt even look like a rookie
he doesnt even look like a college freshman. he can barely pass for a highschool freshman. people arent calling him shrimp patty for nothing
2009 is a year of respect ladies and gentlemen. Lets get it.
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I figured it was bad the way CP10 behaved after the injury yesterday
But, I am not ready to think about the 2010 draft right now. There are 13 games left and I plan to enjoy cheering on the Fins in every one. I hope we get to see the promise and the reason they drafted Henne in his play in the coming weeks.
The only roster move should be to grab some cheap pickup off the scrap heap to have as an insurance policy #3 qb. This is Henne’s team now, let’s see what the kid can do.
I STILL say we win 8 games this year.
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…i don’t have a personal stake in the Phins season, but I am saddened to hear that Chad Pennington is out for the season. He’s a class act and a good leader. I was happy to see how good a fit Miami seemed for him last year when the Jets released him.
I wish him a speedy recovery, and good luck to you guys finding this season’s QB.
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ahhh too many comments
let me just say, we’ll miss u penne, and its henne time
this ones 4 u, chad http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMRPfCRV2xI&feature=related
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Thanks for everything Chad
I hope we can keep you as a coach once your career ends.
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I would like that...
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that'd be cool
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Sorry to hear this
Seriously. Pennington did a lot for your team and was a true competitor. ’Nuff said.
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and i think this goes to show just the kind of player and person Pennington is.
I am very thankful for all Pennington has done for us
He got us to the playoffs. He’s the reason why I bought my 2008 AFC East championship shirt.
Now I’m torn, Pat White who I was a HUGE fan of during his college career, or Chad Henne, who I love now only because he’s a Dolphin, and HATED during his college career cause I’m an even BIGGER Fighting Irish fan.
I think Pat White is a serious winner. Tim Tebow credentials, if anyone else on earth has any, but something in my gut knows this Michigan boy has what it takes, too. This is gonna be a fun season after all.
Here's to hitting your head jumping off the bandwagon.
A system qb?
Or just a guy whose talents were well suited for the college game?
Here's to hitting your head jumping off the bandwagon.
:-( sam sad
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We're looking at this wrong way...
about 8 years ago, a certain veteran QB got hurt early in the year, and an unproven young QB from Michigan, who had a less than stellar college career, stepped into the void. 7 years and 3 Super Bowl titles later, he’s widely considered one of the best QB’s of this generation..
Ladies and Gentlemen, our Drew Bledsoe just got hurt, and hopefully our Tom Brady just stepped into the huddle… We’re going to the Super Bowl lol
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by Little Nicky 21 on Sep 28, 2009 11:45 PM EDT reply actions
Wow, I dont know if thats going to happen
but if you are even close to right I will be a VERY happy Phins fan.
by texascowpunk on Sep 28, 2009 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Reminds me of the scene in the Wizard of Oz movie...
… where the Dorothy and the three companions are walking through the scary forest and see the sign Beware of Ghosts… and after the tin man denies their existance and is thrown thru the air… you find the cowardly Lion saying:
“I do believe in ghost, I do believe in ghost, I do I do I do I do..!”
I do believe in Henne, I do believe in Henne, I do I do I do I do!!!!!!
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lol
trying to find the optimist’s spin on things lol
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by Little Nicky 21 on Sep 29, 2009 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions
that'd be cool
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if that comes to fruition
i will run streaking through the stadium of our superbowl game.
2009 is a year of respect ladies and gentlemen. Lets get it.
"i think we have to look at it through his shoes" tuscanitunr talkin about brett farve.
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As disturbing as it will be to see you
in your birthday suit imagine the level of legend that you could achieve not just on this site (levels not previously seen or imagined) but in general just for one crazy stunt. Of course this will be followed by a stint in jail and the millitary may have something to say about it.
by texascowpunk on Sep 29, 2009 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions
those are risk's im willing to take
2009 is a year of respect ladies and gentlemen. Lets get it.
"i think we have to look at it through his shoes" tuscanitunr talkin about brett farve.
13 1/2 phinsider fued points!!!
Im kinda excited guys...
Lets see what Henne can do! I know he will make mistakes, but lets hope he makes big plays and makes our team more exciting! I am so tired of 5 yard check down throws all game!
GEtSICK 4 JC
The best spin?
The offense has every reason to circle the wagons and let young Chad shoot his gun.
The defense now has a mission. Head ’em off at the pass.
Armchair QB's always complete the pass and armchair coaches always pick the right players.
Yes, Larry Little is still the man.
Screw Tyler Thigpen
We should be going after Jeff Garcia!
In retrospect
Tyler is more experienced than Henne & White, so it’s better than having nothing. But they still better activate P Turner dammit!
by Shinobi_Shogun on Sep 29, 2009 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions
im with ya
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