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Chad Henne...

Okay, seriously.

The hate has to stop. Chad Pennington whether injured or not, needs to be shelved. Not because his play is bad but because of his age. The Dolphins need to figure out what they have in their other two young QBs. Namely Chad Henne.

Why Chad Henne? Because Pat White is lost out there on the field. He might in time turn into something but it will not be this year. As to Henne... Get ready. Here comes an earful.

Chad Henne was inconsistent in college. When he was healthy (he struggled the later half of his college career with a shoulder injury) and surrounded by decent talent he produced at a very high level. When he out-played Tim Tebow (yes, knuckleheads, he out-played Time Rainbow as my true Cane loving self calls him) in the Capital One Bowl game he showed that he was a big game QB who could make all the NFL throws. That was his senior year. The Senior Bowl and the combine would demonstrate his native abilities as well.

After being drafted by the Dolphins last year he slowly emerged, as a rookie, as the best QB in the Phins stable before bringing in Chad Pennington. John Beck was/is a total bust. Josh McCown was/is a joke. Henne, until Pennington, was going to be the starter.

In a league nearly defined by the storyline(s) of rebuilding teams last year two rookie QBs emerged as top competitors. Matt Ryan and Joe Flacco. Chad Pennington, not Chad Henne, emerged as the Miami Dolphins storyline last year. It was a story that revolved around the jets (not capitalised as is proper). Last season's number one narrative for the Phins was a subtext to the failure of the jets organization. It tasted sweet, but belied many issues.

We could not run up the middle from the pro set or other NFL base offenses. We had trouble defending the pass, though certainly not to the degree we have trouble today. We lacked big play potential (though I will concede that it was not as big a deal as it is right now). All things we have dealt with this season, with the exception of the line's run blocking, which is so far improved.

Chad Henne sat the bench all year, with the exception of one very good showing in mop-up work in a losing game against the Cardinals. Henne too was behind the eight ball, and I believe this, no matter what he did in the preseason. Chad Pennington was going to start this season. I believe this messed with Henne's confidence. Pay attention, because I'm going to say something hypocritical in a second.

So Pennington goes down today with what looked to me like a torn rotator cuff. I've suffered one of those in my life and you hold your arm low, around the wrist, because the pain shoots down from your shoulder into your whole arm. That aside, Henne came in and played sub-average. I won't say he played poorly. Here's why.

The hipocrasy. Though I believe Henne might have suffered some psychological blows by being so quickly sidelined this preseason, I also saw incredible mental toughness today. I also saw his big play potential.

The play where he crossed the line of scrimmage... I saw a bigger, stronger QB who dealt with poor line play with Ben Roethlisberger style toughness and broke two tackles to make a (albeit illegal) nice pass downfield. I saw a guy who made a couple of very fast passes (again because of CRAPPY line play at the end) were slightly off their mark, yet still were catchable passes. Ted Ginn, you apparently are not going to be that guy. Too bad.

I also saw a guy who shook off a terrible interception off a designed play (it was a designed play where he was to look off the coverage and make the quick throw in hopes to get Davone a big chunk of yards).

I also saw a offensive line that crumbled. Henne was getting rid of the ball without even having a chance to look second or third receivers down.

I also saw a guy who looked unpolished and who made some sloppy, innacurate passes. He also led the Phins on their only TD drive. He showed his live arm and his physicality in the pocket. Two things that Pennignton lacks. Now whether Henne will ever attain the level of cerebral play that CP was capable of, well, that is a different story.

One more thing to think about: These receivers are used to running timing routes to catch softball passes from Pennington. They will take time to adjust to catching balls thrown with the velocity that Henne has. That longish catch and run from Bess? Methinks it happened because the ball came in really fast. Ginn's drops? Ditto.

A week of practice and better communication with the line may work wonders. Before those of you who hate Henne and for some utterly insane reason still mention John "Bust" Beck, I say give him the next three games. I think he'll prove to be something legit. If I'm wrong about it I want to know by the end of the season. That way we can draft a QB.

I won't touch the Tebow stuff yet. If Henne fails, well, we'll have plenty of time from November through April to talk that talk.

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by Neo on Sep 27, 2009 9:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Overall, this is a very good post, phinisher

You don’t have to “SLAM” everyone though. I think it cheapens your post. Just a little constructive critisim. :)

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by AussieKen on Sep 28, 2009 3:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

nice post

now just wait for the 800 comment debate

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by samdaman on Sep 27, 2009 9:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Writing the words "Chad Henne"

is the cheapest heat you can buy on the Phinsider. ;)

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by The Phinisher on Sep 27, 2009 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol very tru

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by samdaman on Sep 27, 2009 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah

you know its on now. There will be way too many post on Henne this week. I can already tell you Im not reading them all. There are only so many ways you can look at a single subject before you wear it the F**K out.

by texascowpunk on Sep 27, 2009 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

yea, but this is allready worn out

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by samdaman on Sep 27, 2009 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

im kinda on the fence

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by samdaman on Sep 28, 2009 7:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

I missed the game -all of it.

Penne went down and Henne is now our QB? I’m all for him. We as the chorus (a little Greek analogy, here) ought to sit down, hold tongue, and let the team recoup & refit.

I might just grab in my fantasy league, too.

Armchair QB's always complete the pass and armchair coaches always pick the right players.

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by Tunaflipper on Sep 27, 2009 10:09 PM EDT reply actions  

hold tongue?

those crazy greeks

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by samdaman on Sep 28, 2009 7:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

with cp's history of injuries

we knew this was going to happen. maybe it’s a good thing. we get to find out if henne is what we hope he is, or if we need to keep looking.

by TheCableguy on Sep 27, 2009 10:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Okkkk

Lets have players injured to see someone else. Maybe we can injure our WR’s too so we go out and sign a Stud WR. Makes sense.

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by dolphanforever on Sep 27, 2009 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

i just meant

that he has a history of injuries. if it works out that we can see wether or not henne can do it that might not be a bad thinfg in the long run,

by TheCableguy on Sep 28, 2009 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

I wanted Henne to play

but not because of a Pennington injury. I don’t pull for players to get hurt, that just isn’t right.

"Permanence, perseverance and persistence in spite of all obstacles, discouragements, and impossibilities: It is this, that in all things distinguishes the strong soul from the weak." Thomas Carlyle

by Neo on Sep 28, 2009 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

i don't think that anybody was pulling for him to get hurt

in fact, i wanted him to be our qb for the year. you just have to play the cards that you’re dealt.

by TheCableguy on Sep 28, 2009 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

yea

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by samdaman on Sep 28, 2009 7:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

lol i'll go get the pick-axe

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by samdaman on Sep 28, 2009 7:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't read your whole post because it was too long for me

I will hold off on Henne judgement until he has time to practice with the starting team. I think he will be better with a whole week of practice with the starters.

12-4 in 2009.

by phatfinfan on Sep 27, 2009 10:50 PM EDT reply actions  

it was too long for me too

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by samdaman on Sep 28, 2009 7:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

The Phinisher! the only duifference between u and me is..

That u need the entire season to know tha Henne SUCKS!! ; )

I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(22 years and counting)

by Aleta on Sep 27, 2009 11:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Why

Would you say something so childish when you don’t have enough facts to back that up??

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by dolphanforever on Sep 27, 2009 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

???

What game did u saw? LOL

I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(22 years and counting)

by Aleta on Sep 27, 2009 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

You talking about this game?

Where he was off timing with his recievers? When the O line wasn’t use to his count? When he made one bad throw but had enough composure to come back the next drive and lead us down the field? Why does Henne Suck?

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by dolphanforever on Sep 27, 2009 11:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha

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by samdaman on Sep 28, 2009 7:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Aleta

There are many differences between you and I. Many of them you oughtn’t talk about.

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by The Phinisher on Sep 27, 2009 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha

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by samdaman on Sep 28, 2009 7:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Finally

Not the same CP10 sucks and Henne rocks post. Thank you for being honest. Took the words out my mouth. But I don’t think benching him last year ruined his confidence. If anything it would inspire him to play better but great post none the less.

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by dolphanforever on Sep 27, 2009 11:22 PM EDT reply actions  

If Henne Sucks, He Sucks

But now at least the phins will have 13 games to make that evaluation. If he is good, they found their QB. If he is bad, the phins will draft another QB in 2010. This is Win / Win for the future of the franchise.

by ct1361 on Sep 27, 2009 11:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Exactly

Let’s know.

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by The Phinisher on Sep 27, 2009 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

And to be honest

I don’t have a lot of faith that Henne will be any good. But at least we will find out, and that is the most important thing for the rest of ’09. This season is lost, no playoffs are in the future. Now it is all about how the young players are going to play. And Henne is at the top of that list.

by ct1361 on Sep 27, 2009 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lets hope he is good.

I sure dont want to have to go back to the drawing board again.

by texascowpunk on Sep 27, 2009 11:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

your not kiddin

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by Neo on Sep 27, 2009 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

he has talent

but the question will be if he’s smart enough to run an NFL offence

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by samdaman on Sep 28, 2009 7:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

yup

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by samdaman on Sep 28, 2009 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

If he does he does but doesn’t mean he does because he didn’t look great today. We have a lot more games this season to evaluate how good he really is. Can’t say he sucks because of half a game. But if he does turn out bad then we can at least draft like you say. I hate to see CP10 get hurt though. Did not want that to happen…

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by dolphanforever on Sep 27, 2009 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't want to see any player get hurt

But Pennington’s history suggested that he would this year. That is why I wish that Henne got more time with the 1st team in preseason. If I could anticipate Penne getting hurt this year, the coaching staff should have made the same prediction.

by ct1361 on Sep 27, 2009 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

yea, penne got hurt twice acctally

remember the broken nose :-)

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by samdaman on Sep 28, 2009 7:20 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah but I dont think you count the nose because

just about anyone can play with that. Ive had a broken nose. It hurs but it does not really keep you from doing anything.

by texascowpunk on Sep 28, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

yea, i've broken my nose too

but it looked bad-ass

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by samdaman on Sep 28, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha thats bad-ass too

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by samdaman on Sep 28, 2009 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess but if I get

even slightly bumped in the nose I sneeze for like an hour afterwards. It totally sucks.

by texascowpunk on Sep 28, 2009 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

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by samdaman on Sep 28, 2009 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

that was my point

if he’s not the answer we’ll know before next season

by TheCableguy on Sep 28, 2009 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

thats tru

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by samdaman on Sep 28, 2009 7:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Henne is the real deal...

quote me on that. I hope he come out and balls. Half of the haters here can’t throw a good spiral. Half of the haters here would shit their pants seeing Ray Lewis coming at them full speed. All of the haters are gonna be on Henne’s nuts by week 8. For all of you Tim Teabag fans, Henne beat the Gators (and Tim Teabag) in the Capital One Bowl which was his last college game. Oh yea, I almost forgot, he was named MVP.

by g35phin on Sep 27, 2009 11:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Tim Teabag

Or Time Rainbow. Both are fine with me. Go Canes!

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by The Phinisher on Sep 27, 2009 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahaha

nice stache’ you got there

by g35phin on Sep 27, 2009 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thank you for something positive to say.

So the kid had a bad day. He is our QB now so everone needs to quit bitching and get behind the kid.

by texascowpunk on Sep 27, 2009 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

i still want teabag

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by samdaman on Sep 28, 2009 7:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Because your a Gator fan?

Staford is a better NFL prospect at this point. i dont say that just because I am anti-gator. I say it because its true. After all dont we want whats best for the Phins?

by texascowpunk on Sep 28, 2009 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

i agree, staford is more "nfl ready"

but i want tebow, dammit!

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by samdaman on Sep 28, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

c'mon, dont do this 2 me!

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by samdaman on Sep 28, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

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by samdaman on Sep 28, 2009 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

*Brantly

anyway I’ll give CH#7(doesnt have as nice a ring as CP #10 but whattheF**ever.)
 a mulligan, it was his first start and he hasnt played alot with the first teamers.

I do like how he broke a few tackles, flashes of Big Ben.

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by Patssuck456 on Sep 28, 2009 8:40 AM EDT reply actions  

Honestly, I'm glad it went down this way.

I think we can all agree that the team needs to transition to a franchise QB.

I think we can also all agree that CP10 did a lot for this team.

I think its good that we’re making that transition and its not at the expense of benching CP10

Here’s hoping for the best.

Ted Ginn must go.

by afmo on Sep 28, 2009 4:20 PM EDT reply actions  

good post and rec'd

i dont know why i didnt see this until now. i am excited for henne. i am actually getting the sunday morning jitter already. i think ill be having them all week until we get to see him play again.

2009 is a year of respect ladies and gentlemen. Lets get it.

"i think we have to look at it through his shoes" tuscanitunr talkin about brett farve.

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by MrMedic on Sep 29, 2009 8:57 AM EDT reply actions  

Short of having a true top shelf receiver...

Henne has got a good cast around him. Not to mention he’s had plenty of time in the system as well as ample opportunity to watch and learn.

I definitely am not going to judge him on the SD performance because it is, or seems to me at least, a very different thing to get most of the first team reps in practice, know the whole week you are starting, and prep yourself mentally. Sure some guys can ‘come off the bench’ and play well, but not everyone does.

We are 0-3 and have nothing to lose. As I see it, the 2009 season becomes one where perhaps our biggest goal, among others, is to see if we have a real QB for 2010 and beyond.

I’m optimistic we’ll get a good answer here.

by Natalya on Sep 30, 2009 4:37 PM EDT reply actions  

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