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2009 Perspective II

 Welcome to week 3.  Two weeks down, two losses.  Sounds familiar.  Anyone remember all the way back to last year?  Two losses to start the season, to include a beat down from the Cardinals that had all of us expecting a repeat of 2007?  See, I know you remember it.  How'd that turn out?

Yes, this posting is late this week.  Why?  Because I was so angry and frustrated after last week that I contemplated not even bothering to write anything.  However, this is a very cathartic experience and I think I need that right now.  Maybe you will even find what I have to say as entertaining.

Last week was ridiculous.  No, not the game.  I thought the team played well.  I think there is a lot to work on , specifically the defense needs to learn how to tackle, and any day someone wants to stop a tight-end from catching a ball would be great.  I'm not blind to the shortfalls of this team.  And I expected them.  The Dolphins  are in year two of a three year rebuild.  Give it time.  The team will get better.

Star-divide

Why am I angry and frustrated?  Because I am tired of getting splashed as everyone abandons ship.  The level of bandwagon jumping was so high, I gave up and left the post game commenting.  You would have thought we just blew the National Championship, the World Series, and the Super Bowl all at once.  I don't understand it.  Are we fans of the team, or are we simply fans of winning?  I'm beginning to question that.

This team has won 11 of 19 games since the 1-15 season.  Three games over .500 after being 14 games under.  Yes, this team has lost its last three games.  I fully acknowledge that.  But, the fact that you are able to be this upset over those three losses, individually and combined, should show you how far this team has come. 

Instead, the blog exploded into a cascade of comments on how over this year is.  It started during the final drive, with comments on how horrible the "two-minute drill" was for the team.  Was it?  Was it really that bad?  Let's look at it for just a second.  The Dolphins got the ball back with 3:18  to go, down by four. 

Patrick Cobbs returned the kickoff 24 yards to the 18-yard line.  At this point, I was wondering why.  Why on Earth do you take that ball from 6-yards deep in the endzone and run with it.  Kneel, keep the 7 seconds it took to complete that play and get the ball at the 20-yard line.  Seems pretty straight forward.

As the offense took the field, the Dolphins had 3:11 to travel 82 yards, something the Colts had just done in 32-seconds.  Miami's first play was a one yard run by Ronnie Brown.  Here came the questions.  "What?"  "Why are we running the ball?"  Even the commentators seemed confused.

But, the Dolphins had run the ball well all day.  The team still held two time outs and the two-minute warning.  If the Colts could not stop the run all day, why abandon it when moving the ball is a necessity?

Here is really the only questionable moment that I had during this drive.  Chad Pennington called a timeout after letting the play clock run all the way down.  Why?  What was the thought process here?  Either keep the clock running and run a play, or call the time out earlier.  I am still confused by this time out.

Following the time out, Brown was again handed the ball with 2:26 remaining, as he gained 5 yards.  The clock ran down to the 2:00 Warning, with Miami at its own 24-yard line.

 After the 2:00 Warning, Pennington found Ted Ginn, Jr. over the middle for 11 yards.  Running to the line, Pennington again found Ginn , who got out of bound after 9-yards.

With 1:33 left, Pennington hit Anthony Fasano for 1-yard.  Again going on huddle, the Dolphins snapped the ball only to have Chad Pennington sacked for a nine-yard loss.  With 0:56 remaining, Miami called their final time out.

The Dolphins then came out throwing, as Pennington connected with Davone Bess for 18-yards.  Bess ran out of bounds at the Indianapolis 46-yard line.  Pennington ran the ball up the middle for four yards on the next play, then spiked the ball on the resulting first down, stopping the clock with 0:41 seconds left.

From the Indianapolis 42-yard line, Chad Pennington missed Ginn on a deep ball, but hit him on the next play for 12 yards, down to the Colts' 30-yard line.  Pennington then spiked the clock, leaving 0:12 to take a shot at winning the game with a touchdown pass.

So, what was ugly with all of that?  What's the point of the hurry-up/2:00 minute drill?  To get the team into scoring position, able to take a shot at winning the game, right?  Well, the Dolphins just accomplished that.

So, with 0:12 second, Chad Pennington dropped back and threw the ball toward Ted Ginn, Jr.  Let the debate of whether Ginn should have caught that ball begin.  I still think that was a tough catch.  Suddenly, people were screaming that Ginn is a worthless, horrible wide receiver.  Ignoring all three cathes he had made to get the team to the Indy 30-yard line in the first place, not to mention his 11-catches for 108 yards earlier in the game. 

The Dolphins got one more shot at the endzone, but the ball was intercepted as time ran out.

So, two shots at the endzone as time runs out to win the game.  What's the problem with the last drive?

Now, let's look at the point to running down the clock.  Indianapolis scored on five drives during the game.  They had a 0:12 touchdown drive, a 4:07 field goal drive, 0:43 field goal drive (the infamous "What can happen in :08?" drive), 3:17 touchdown drive, and a 0:32 touchdown drive.  What's that mean?  Peyton Manning could have directed a game tying or winning drive with any amount of time left on the clock.  Why take the chance?  If you can drive down the field and score to win the game, while leaving Manning no time to respond, why wouldn't you?  I fully believe that truly explains the decisions during the "2:00 drill" (except maybe that first timeout).

So, now we start seeing the comments explode.  Suddenly everyone is questioning everything from Chad Pennington to Pat White.  From Dan Henning to Tony Sparano.  From Jason Taylor to Gibril Wilson.   Everything.  There were comments that we needed to fire coaches, bench players, cut receivers.  All because of one loss.  One loss out of 16 games. 

What are your expectations of this year?  Mine are that the team looks good, plays hard, and we should come out somewhere around 9&7, in the hunt for a wildcard berth.  I don't think this team is looking at a Super Bowl run.  I don't think this team is looking at a deep playoff run.  I'm not even sure this team makes the playoffs.  I am hopeful.  I want them to get there.  But, I'm not living or dying on if they make it or not.  Remember, we are only one year removed from a single win season.

I don't mean to preach, and I know that's what it seems like I am doing, but I am sick and tired of hearing people bash the team, the players, the coaches because of a loss.  The 2009 Miami Dolphins are not a great team.  They are a good team.  I would say they are a very good team.  They are not a great team.  The Indianapolis Colts, as long as they have Peyton Manning, are a great team.  The fact that the Dolphins took Indianapolis to the final play of the game, the fact that the Dolphins showed that the offense can move the ball and the defense can shut down the run, proves this team is improving and starting to reach higher levels of play.  But, they aren't there yet.

Give it time.  Let the team develop.  This team is still incredibly young.  Check out this article by ESPN.com's Tim Graham to see what I mean.  To give you a taste of it, "Also of note, the Dolphins kept more rookie or first-year players than anybody else with 14."

So this team is young and developing.  They aren't going to be an undefeated, untouchable team today; but tomorrow, they might be.  Let's get to tomorrow.

Targets of Opportunity

Guess we should have been watching "Joe Buck Live." Namath, Elway, and Marino on one stage talking about today's quarterbacks.  Yeah, we should have watched that.

Really?  Tony Sparano spent all of last year in the 90% range for Coaching Ratings.  Now, he has a 66%.  Have we really jumped ship that badly after two games?

Is the NFL ready for Michael Vick's return?  Should be interesting to see his reception.  Maybe not this week, but in the coming weeks when the Eagles have to leave Philadelphia.

What's going on in Miami?  Not the Dolphins, but the ‘Canes.  Congrats to all of your Hurricanes fans.  Good to see Florida has two Top 10 teams again.  A couple of years from now, we could be back to the three powerhouse schools in Florida, all beating the crap out of each other.  Should be fun!

Finally, I think the real culprit of this loss we just endured was the 3rd and 6 play, where the Dolphins ran a draw play to the middle of the field to set-up the go ahead field goal.  Way too conservative against Peyton Manning and the Colts, especially with the obvious ease with which Peyton was picking apart the secondary.  Go for the first down there.  It's the only way to prevent what ultimately happened.

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Very good write up.

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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Sep 24, 2009 5:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Thanks!

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by Mosul_DolFan on Sep 24, 2009 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

two plays i dont understand

were the TOplay and the 3rd down draw. we should have won but we let the big play develop into a TD coulda, shoulda, woulda < did

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by kewlguy on Sep 24, 2009 5:25 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

DID>>>>>>>>>>shoulda/woulda....

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by Mosul_DolFan on Sep 24, 2009 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

yessir

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by samdaman on Sep 24, 2009 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

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by Mosul_DolFan on Sep 24, 2009 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

go down with the ship because you believe the trifecta

will keep it from completely going down

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by kewlguy on Sep 24, 2009 6:09 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Im with you.

Stay with the ship because you know that eventually the trifecta will find a way to plug all the hole and compleate the journey.

by texascowpunk on Sep 25, 2009 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

i know ill catch hell for this

but Ginn WILL turn into a really good WR in the nfl if he continues to work hard. Am i the only one to see the similarities with Steve Smith? Good hands, size, and speed if he improves his route running like he did this offseason he will be a really good WR

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by kewlguy on Sep 24, 2009 5:35 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I don't dispute that.

He’s shown moments. He can be very good. I think the trick is, he’s built to be a speed threat as a #2 WR. If we get that big #1 WR, we are set…

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by Mosul_DolFan on Sep 24, 2009 5:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

other people on here have

he isnt gonna be a top ten but hell be really good and a reliable reciever. he has the tools to be a serious threat

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by kewlguy on Sep 24, 2009 5:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Oh, I know others have

I think people would have called for his head if they thought they actually could get it done.

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by Mosul_DolFan on Sep 24, 2009 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

thatcomment was aimed at those people

not you sorry

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by kewlguy on Sep 24, 2009 5:50 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I know it was...

No problem…

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by Mosul_DolFan on Sep 24, 2009 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

i have a question

 i keep on seeing &s where they make no sense. is there a reason for this? thanks in advance

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by kewlguy on Sep 24, 2009 6:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

remember

the definition of a #1 WR is that he can get open in all routes and has reliable hands. Ginn has problems catching the jumpball but he can get open as evidenced by his stats

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by kewlguy on Sep 24, 2009 5:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

good size?

yes good hands and speed, but lets not kid ourselves, teddy is what, 190lbs soaking wet? i think after the colts game, teddy probably watched that play over 100 times and has been drilling his brain with “i will make that catch, i will make that catch”.

2009 is a year of respect ladies and gentlemen. Lets get it.

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by MrMedic on Sep 25, 2009 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

Steve smith aint that big either have you seen him?

If ginn improves his route runnig more like he did this offseaso, receivers get better at running routes as they get older, he has good hands and good speed

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by kewlguy on Sep 26, 2009 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

true

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by kewlguy on Sep 26, 2009 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

not buying it...

one of these things isn’t like the other…

Johnson
Moss
Walter
Wayen
Fitzgerald
Ginn Jr.

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by afmo on Sep 25, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

*wayne

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by afmo on Sep 25, 2009 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

hmmm.. do i guess walter?

no, wait, ginn? uh, i’m so confused… are we taking about hairstyle?

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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 25, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha ur probably right

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by samdaman on Sep 25, 2009 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

yea, i got him

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by samdaman on Sep 25, 2009 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

ummm PERM

no wait, CORNROWS? GINN JR FTW!

2009 is a year of respect ladies and gentlemen. Lets get it.

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by MrMedic on Sep 25, 2009 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

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by samdaman on Sep 25, 2009 5:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

how long are we willing to continue to give his crappy play a pass?

under the guise of “improvement?”

If he’s afraid of contact now, he’s going to always be afraid of contact.

if he can’t catch the ball when it hits him in the hands or the chest, he aint ever going to do it.

the “well he’s improving” pass has been revoked.

Ted Ginn must go.

Ted Ginn must go.

by afmo on Sep 28, 2009 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice job Mosul

I couldnt be in more agreement with ya.

The fact that there are ppl wondering ANYTHING about Sparano is a complete joke. Those ppl deserve to live in 2007 for eternity – with Cam Cam in charge.

Ive never seen a WR get more shit for a 11 catch 100 yard game…i understand some of it…but to say he totally sucks is ignorant.

im ignoring them…i have been. i rarely read ANY posts in here…unless they really get my attention…its just too much and too depressing to see people…after 2 games…..throw in the towel. i for one am glad dudes like you protect our country…and not them.

nicely done…i wondered yesterday….but i knew youd come through. great write up as always

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by Rzayo24 on Sep 24, 2009 5:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Thanks RZ

Yesterday, I wasn’t going to post at all. This morning I decided to go ahead and write it.

Glad you enjoyed it.

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by Mosul_DolFan on Sep 24, 2009 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

where you

when i had to defend ginn because he blew up one play at the end. it woulda been an unbelieveable catch and he was reliable the whole game

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by kewlguy on Sep 24, 2009 5:48 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

im learning to stay off some posts

they kill too many of my brain cells.

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by kewlguy on Sep 24, 2009 6:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Rec'd

all i can say

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by samdaman on Sep 24, 2009 5:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Thanks!

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by Mosul_DolFan on Sep 24, 2009 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

OH AND

this is a very well written and well informed post. And one last thing GO DOLPHINS

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by kewlguy on Sep 24, 2009 6:18 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

A voice of reason out here in the PhinsOcean.

I think after seeing the past two games & what hearing Mr. Sparano has commented on is there have been plays that were designed to catch D’s off guard, but did not. Some seemed obviously wrong, others took a bit to figure out they were notsogood.

On to San Diego!

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by Tunaflipper on Sep 24, 2009 7:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Said it a million times...

I think Ted Ginn Jr. is a great piece to an offense…just not THE piece. Dunno what his contract is…but I bet we could get him at a bargain to stay…for a player with his talent.

He needs to return EVERYTHING….and they need to get him involved in space….how many reverses have we seen him explode on? Get him a Wildcat play….he was a QB in high school….ive seen him throw…you wanna mess ppl up? Snap it to Ronnie…but Ginn in Rickys end around spot….give it to him with the option to throw or take it.

Like i said…enough bargain shopping for playmakers….deal with what you got….and add a big time piece when you can. I prefer a known wr…not drafting one.

Let me ask a question that really mean nothing…but ive been thinkin about….

Boldin prob coulda been had for the offer of our 1st rd pick and a 2nd.

Would you trade Vontae and Pat White for Anquan Boldin today? I would. Just an example…but thats hindsight of course.

Im a defensive guy at heart…so I always think “Draft bigtime Defensive stars…sign sure thing playmakers” …so next draft im all over a bigtime NT and LB.

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by Rzayo24 on Sep 24, 2009 8:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Knowing now that VD would be outplayed (up until now) by Smith, maybe I would have made that trade

But I am happy as hell we got VD, then and now, and think he and Smith will be our CBs for years, so I’m not sure I would make that trade.

Although, I definately want Q.

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by Mosul_DolFan on Sep 24, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Probably one of the few times you'll hear the phrase:

“I am happy as hell we got VD”

LOL

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by afmo on Sep 25, 2009 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

ROFLMAO!

damn, i wish i’d said that!

=)

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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 25, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

and yeah mosul, i agree

Davis is definitely going to be good. And we needed to get corners from the draft, not FA. so i have NO problem with that selection. I don’t look at it as if Davis was a poor pick… i think it is more that Smith was a steal!

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 25, 2009 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great Read

Couldn’t agree more. Rz your right about A. Boldin. Wish we could have got him. I like Vontae Davis though, Pat White he is just an extra we didn’t need. I don’t always agree with the FO project players.

by FinFanFromCA on Sep 25, 2009 12:16 AM EDT reply actions  

they were wrong.

fact is….they have been wtonf as much as they have been right…but they coach the balls off what they do get.

there was 100 pat whites in that draft…i think they fell for the tape.

honestly….eff davis…eff white….Boldin is a chip that would be bigger than both together,

Davis to me has been a dissapointment so far. he has the size…looks the part..but hes gonna need a lot of time to grow. id rather have Boldin for 6 yrs.

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by Rzayo24 on Sep 25, 2009 1:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, i'm pretty sure i could have lived without the pat white pick.

that one always felt like a luxury pick, for a team that did not have the luxury of a luxury pick.

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 25, 2009 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

exactly

but we picked him….and i like him…just not how we are using him.

i just prefer using a high 2nd rd pick on a player that can impact the game so so so sooooooooo much more. a big ugly…..2nd rd lb’s can be pro bowlers…..or spend a higher pick on one of those wrs we passed on that has the skills to end up being an anquan boldin.

but we picked him…so we gotta make him worth the pick. just like ginn….who cares what pick it was…just use him for what he is…a terrific return man and a great speed threat when he doesnt get all the attention.

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by Rzayo24 on Sep 25, 2009 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

i agree about that 2nd round pick

but that is a really interesting idea, using Pat White as a return man…. i think i like it.

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 25, 2009 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

hmmmmmmmm

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by samdaman on Sep 25, 2009 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

im starting to question patty a bit

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by samdaman on Sep 25, 2009 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's still very early for him

i wasn’t a huge fan of drafting him, but he’ll be okay. he always got by before on speed and raw talent. now he has to learn to play football. i think that’s why some guys who weren’t superstars in college have better pro careers, they had to learn to play the game earlier.

by TheCableguy on Sep 25, 2009 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

nice profile pic

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by samdaman on Sep 25, 2009 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rec'd

Awesome post…. I agree with pretty much everything. lol. These two games are probably some of the hardest on our schedule too… I’ve only been following the team closely since 2005 so watching us even compete with the Colts like that was great. I’m just happy my team is not seen as a joke anymore..we are on the way up.

by Ham420 on Sep 25, 2009 1:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Well said Lefty

You get goo when I am not mobile posting.

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by Mosul_DolFan on Sep 25, 2009 3:37 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Already Green

But there’s the goo I owe you…

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by Mosul_DolFan on Sep 25, 2009 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

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by Mosul_DolFan on Sep 25, 2009 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

About the 2 minute drill

At first I saw it as very poorly executed but Mosul brought up a point I hadn’t thought of…What if the coaches were running the ball and “taking their time” so that when we scored Peyton wouldn’t have time left to throw a touchdown, as he showed twice that game he could do it in under 40 secs. How heart-breaking would of it had been if we got ahead 30-27 with a minute or under left and then Peyton comes back to beat us 34-30 or tie it up and then risk it happeing in overtime.

But I guess you could counter that and say we should have played to win instead of not to lose and taken that chance…Idk you could look at it both ways…

But the timeout by Chad after letting the clock run down might have been what killed us. We only had one timeout after the 2 minute warning…we planned on having two when we starting running the ball and maybe we would have had a chance if we did have 2 timeouts…who knows

by Ham420 on Sep 25, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

no no, i don't necessarily mean the play selection.

i assumed they were trying to run out the clock, and with 3 plus minutes, two TOs and the 2min warning, i was not worried about the time to score. I really thought we had it in the bag, and was not even concerned with Cobbs running the ball out of the EZ.

I agree that running the ball made sense, up to a point. My bigger concern was the poor use of the TOs and not hurrying up after they had blown the first one.

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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 25, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

2 minute drill sucked

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by samdaman on Sep 25, 2009 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think i had 6 or so on a post the other day

holy crap, 16 words!

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by samdaman on Sep 25, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

easy turbo

you don’t want to use up your whole allotment for the month. You still have almost a week to go.

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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 25, 2009 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

i kno, i should slow down

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by samdaman on Sep 25, 2009 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

thank you

sam

2009 is a year of respect ladies and gentlemen. Lets get it.

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by MrMedic on Sep 25, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

anytime

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by samdaman on Sep 25, 2009 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also,

I agree with you on the opinions thing. So many people love to be the critic, when its not really their place to judge. I know that the Trifecta knows what they are doing, especially more than the fans (duh), thats why they are the professionals.

But if I had to point out a player that Im disappointing with its Crowder…not saying he doesnt have time to prove himself, but IM just really starting to wonder why we signed him to a three year deal…It kind of seems like hes comfortable with how hes playing too(which isn’t really good enough)….but I could just be misjudging his confidence. I was surprised by the re-signing but hopefully it ends up being the right choice

by Ham420 on Sep 25, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

everyone is certainly entitled to their opinion

and it is fine to 2nd guess the coaches. but at the end of the day, it don’t mean shit – either way. =)

I agree about crowder. i never thought he was special, but i was glad to see them extend him, just for stability. i said it last year…. you can’t fix everything at once. If crowder doesn’t perform, they will draft a guy next offseason to play behind crowder, and then take over the following year. We are at least one more offseason from solidifying the areas of weakness.

More if Henne turns out to be a dud.

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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 25, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Because the time machine has not yet been invented

I hate bringing this up but we could of snagged Maualuga instead of Patty with the 44th pick and that would make our ILB a bit more comfortable. But I guess I can’t really judge that pick because we haven’t seen the plans that the staff has for White yet, so we’ll see.

And also, Ive heard that Maualuga isn’t really a pssing down type LB and thats really what we need improvement on.

by Ham420 on Sep 25, 2009 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, i kinda was thinking the same thing.

Rey Rey would have been a great snag there, but who knows? Maybe White will end up being a great return man, like RZ said.

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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 25, 2009 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

dammit lefty and his long comments

summarize it 4 me!

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by samdaman on Sep 25, 2009 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Wilson sucked, 2 min drill sucked.

people with big egos and little brains suck

Otherwise, i thought the Fins played pretty good.

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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 25, 2009 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

yes, i agree

and thank you

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by samdaman on Sep 25, 2009 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

omg

lmao! sooo, did you just "sam"arize it??

2009 is a year of respect ladies and gentlemen. Lets get it.

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by MrMedic on Sep 25, 2009 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

LOL

that’s funny! you get credit for coining a new “phinsider term”. where is finsx to add it to the Phinctionary?

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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 25, 2009 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

finsx!!

where you at?

2009 is a year of respect ladies and gentlemen. Lets get it.

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by MrMedic on Sep 25, 2009 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

lets go with

honored

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by MrMedic on Sep 25, 2009 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

thanks, that looks right

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by samdaman on Sep 25, 2009 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

ho-nerd

noun. from latin. A) a woman willing to sell her body while still being regarded as less than popular
B) a super hot woman who will have sex with you while you play gears of war…..against her.

2009 is a year of respect ladies and gentlemen. Lets get it.

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by MrMedic on Sep 25, 2009 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

lmaooo!!

dude, im in a tent with like 8 guys who are all sleeping and i think i just woke them up laughing @ “im a ho nerd”!!!

2009 is a year of respect ladies and gentlemen. Lets get it.

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by MrMedic on Sep 25, 2009 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

i am still laughing!
i am supposed to be working. my wife is getting suspicious

=)

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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 25, 2009 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

seriously,

me too, i was just going through the progression and the whole thing is killing me!! from sam asking for a summary right down to him calling himself a ho nerd. that whole convo is just classic

2009 is a year of respect ladies and gentlemen. Lets get it.

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by MrMedic on Sep 25, 2009 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

we need 3 on each

but cant rec’d our own….quite the conundrum.

2009 is a year of respect ladies and gentlemen. Lets get it.

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by MrMedic on Sep 25, 2009 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

ok ok

i gotta go unrec’d like 10 comments now. good thinkin lefty.

2009 is a year of respect ladies and gentlemen. Lets get it.

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by MrMedic on Sep 25, 2009 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

ugh my post is

sittin on 5 rec’s!! maybe if someone…..someone who had a goo cannon….were to go over there………….not sayin any names here……..

2009 is a year of respect ladies and gentlemen. Lets get it.

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by MrMedic on Sep 25, 2009 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

i already did rec his post

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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Sep 25, 2009 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

he did...thanx DIB =)

i should get a slap on the wrist anyway. if its deserving, itll get it. no asking for rec’d. bad medic

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by MrMedic on Sep 25, 2009 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol no its fine.

i thought it was a really good/funny write up so it will probably get there anyway

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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Sep 25, 2009 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

you'll get one from me if u say please

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by samdaman on Sep 25, 2009 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

not u, medic!

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by samdaman on Sep 26, 2009 7:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

doesnt count

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by samdaman on Sep 26, 2009 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

ill get it started

=)

2009 is a year of respect ladies and gentlemen. Lets get it.

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by MrMedic on Sep 25, 2009 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

holy crap, how could i get rec'd

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by samdaman on Sep 25, 2009 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

geez, i am still laughing at that

my eyes are tearing up – that’s funny as hell

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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 25, 2009 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol thanks

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by samdaman on Sep 25, 2009 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think

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by samdaman on Sep 25, 2009 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

glad i could please you

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by samdaman on Sep 25, 2009 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

tell her its my fault

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by samdaman on Sep 25, 2009 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

HA

im ur new alarm clock

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by samdaman on Sep 25, 2009 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

ditto.

god that is just to funny. sam should put that in his sig.

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by MrMedic on Sep 25, 2009 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh shoot

it WAS me….ok, i rec’d….still not green?

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by MrMedic on Sep 25, 2009 7:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

will do

sam the ho nerd

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by samdaman on Sep 25, 2009 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol thanks

i think

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by samdaman on Sep 26, 2009 7:06 AM EDT up reply actions  

there we go

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by MrMedic on Sep 25, 2009 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

holy crap my comment is green!!!!

me, sam, has a green comment!!!

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by samdaman on Sep 25, 2009 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

thanks!

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by samdaman on Sep 25, 2009 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

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by samdaman on Sep 25, 2009 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

well freakin said lefty. rec.

2009 is a year of respect ladies and gentlemen. Lets get it.

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by MrMedic on Sep 25, 2009 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

thanks for the Goos guys. ;-)

Mosul just kinda made me think about it, that when we have guys like you, Medic, Mosul, and others putting yourselves in harms way, it seems kinda silly to get all wrapped around the axle like we do here sometimes… myself included.

just felt like I needed to say it, considering the name of the post is “perspective”.
=)

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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 25, 2009 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

well said

i even read it all

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by samdaman on Sep 25, 2009 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

actulay, im usualy done before there.

if i see a long comment, i dont even bother reading it, i wait for the "sam"ory

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by samdaman on Sep 25, 2009 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

you like that word huh
=)

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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 25, 2009 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

very much :-)

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by samdaman on Sep 25, 2009 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks!

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by Mosul_DolFan on Sep 25, 2009 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Once Agian a Thumbs up read

Thank fully i can rely on the “Vet’s” of the blog to remind me, we still got a pretty damn good fan base here. You brought up some excellent point’s mosul and I will admit i was one skeptical about that drill but just really just made sense run it down get us to scoring range and don’t give peyton manning any time hell even a hail Mary would be scary as balls to see from him.

I think the time out was an accident, CP10 goofed and im sure he wished he had a mulligan on that one. It happens and it’s been a while since they where in a two minute drill situation for real. I’m sure next time he’ll be a lot more prepared for it and will run a lot smoother.

Good Stuff Mosul, Glad your watching my back buddy.

by Ex Sniper on Sep 25, 2009 4:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Thanks snipe!

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by Mosul_DolFan on Sep 25, 2009 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

FP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Whew….after Persepctive I didn’t get FP or Rec’d and this one wasn’t on the FP, I was beginning to think you didn’t love me any more Matty.

But I’m BAAAACCCCKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nicky…get me my damn jacket already….

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by Mosul_DolFan on Sep 25, 2009 6:41 PM EDT reply actions  

mosullllll

you are needed on the chill pill

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by MrMedic on Sep 25, 2009 6:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice post

I agree with both you and left coast. Some of the anger was in the conservativeness that plagued us since, heck, last yr. The ginn talk was ridiculous. “he SUCKS peace of sh*t” all of that. He just had an amazing game converting so many 3rd downs. he catch was tough as hell and a borderline pass interference but I digress. There was a lot of good to take from this game considering that pile of doo doo we were in atlanta. Its just….

1-1 and 0-2 are vastly different. I think wk 2 is one of the most important games of the yr.

Still I have hope we win on sunday. Fans are fickle. let them be

by kazam92 on Sep 25, 2009 9:33 PM EDT reply actions  

I agree with most of your points

BUT—-a couple of things. First, I’m not saying it was the easiest catch in the world, but I AM saying I expect most NFL WR to make that catch in the endzone when it hits both hands. The other thing I disliked about the 2 minute drill was 2 shots from the 30 yardline with any QB isn’t what I would call a situation where we had a good chance to win, let alone a QB (whom I still wholeheartedly support, btw) without a real strong arm. Now, if we had 2 shots from the 5 or 10 yard line with 12 seconds left, I would say we had a good chance and just didn’t take advantage. THAT’S why I think better clock management and some different playcalling (and I couldn’t agree more about the 3rd and 6 play earlier in the game) should have been employed during that last drive.

by blackadder_650 on Sep 26, 2009 7:51 AM EDT reply actions  

Let'em vent and if they jump ship good riddance

Hey this site is a great one to let your emotions flow. If not here, then where? I post my emotions before filtering them through logic, empathy, or loyalty. I do not fear that my words will sway the true dolphin fans to jump ship. When I am disappointed you’ll hear it. Having said that, I am the first to defend our team to non-fans when not in the confines of this site. We can bash, but don’t let me hear some other chump non-fan do it.

Also, I would never let down the team by not supporting them in the stadium (if I ever can afford to get down there and watch live). Well maybe a quick boo to give the coach and indication of crowd sentiment here and there… but always followed up with some fanatic cheering to show support.

The bottom line is that the jury is still out on the talent of this year’s team. My hope is that they tread water in the beginning of this tough schedule. As the rookies/new FAs start to gel, and the coaches learn how best to utilize strengths and hide weaknesses we will be able to compete with anyone down the stretch (i.e. if we get a ticket to the playoffs, we could make a serious run).

I have not abandoned this theory yet. I watched some smash mouth football on offense on Monday. If the defense had showed up you would have seen many more points scored. We never went to the well set up play action pass because we didn’t need it and we did not want to score quick. But know that we could have scored a lot of points on Monday! If we threw some more passes on the first couple downs, their defense would have been at our mercy, guessing every down and getting their butts kicked. It would have been quite a show. But we didn’t even need to go there. It was impressive.

The main reason I am still hopeful of a solid season is that this is uncharacteristic of our Defense. By all accounts, by mid-season we should be much better than last season on D. We definitely have more talent, and the young guys have more experience. Throw in Sean and Vontae and we should be able to create havoc. The atrocious tackling will subside once people stop thinking about their roles and start playing football. This will cut down on the big strikes that have been killing us. We just need more pressure on the QB and MORE turnovers!

I am confident we will turn this around and beat a lot of good teams this year. But let me vent. I promise I will never jump ship and will adjust my expectations weekly (I was still cheering week 16 of the 2007 season… excited about talent for next year).

by Fins4evr72 on Sep 26, 2009 10:26 AM EDT reply actions  

well said

but i don’t think you can honestly say it is “uncharacteristic of the defense” when we have an entirely new (almost) secondary. I still think that both weeks, the Safetys should have prevented some of those big plays and didn’t. I mean, sure the LBs didn’t play well in coverage, but the last line of Defense has got to be that FS, and so far it doesn’t look good.

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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 26, 2009 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

can u "sam-arize" his comment for me

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by samdaman on Sep 26, 2009 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

no, i like him

he missed one tackle, dont kill him yet

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by samdaman on Sep 26, 2009 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

wasnt that two?

maybe i was having a nightmare that the dolphins lost

OFFENSE- Protect the Quaterback at all costs
DEFFENSE- Get to the Quaterback at all costs
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by kewlguy on Sep 26, 2009 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

LOL

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by samdaman on Sep 26, 2009 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

me too

OFFENSE- Protect the Quaterback at all costs
DEFFENSE- Get to the Quaterback at all costs
"if something goes bad, I did it. If something goes semi-good, we did it. If something goes good, you did it. Thats all you need to do for guys to win football games for you."- Unknown

by kewlguy on Sep 26, 2009 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol

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by samdaman on Sep 26, 2009 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

After

week one ppl said give the o-line just had a bad game, theyll get their act together

Week two a guy f****s up and everyone wants his head. He has proved that he is pretty good he just had a bad game

OFFENSE- Protect the Quaterback at all costs
DEFFENSE- Get to the Quaterback at all costs
"if something goes bad, I did it. If something goes semi-good, we did it. If something goes good, you did it. Thats all you need to do for guys to win football games for you."- Unknown

by kewlguy on Sep 26, 2009 9:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

o-line was on/off in the preseason

pennington (or any of our other QBs) was throwing bad ball and good balls. you could blame the conditions but come on. CP10 looked great in week 2. He looked scared a lot, maybe cuz of the o-line’s last outing

OFFENSE- Protect the Quaterback at all costs
DEFFENSE- Get to the Quaterback at all costs
"if something goes bad, I did it. If something goes semi-good, we did it. If something goes good, you did it. Thats all you need to do for guys to win football games for you."- Unknown

by kewlguy on Sep 26, 2009 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bye Bye

fellow Phinsiders

OFFENSE- Protect the Quaterback at all costs
DEFFENSE- Get to the Quaterback at all costs
"if something goes bad, I did it. If something goes semi-good, we did it. If something goes good, you did it. Thats all you need to do for guys to win football games for you."- Unknown

by kewlguy on Sep 26, 2009 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

bye?

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by samdaman on Sep 26, 2009 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

exactly

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by samdaman on Sep 26, 2009 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

are you talking about Wilson?

because it was not just week 2 for him.

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 28, 2009 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

EPIC post Mosul, as yours alwarys are!

EPIC comment Lefty. And I loved the samory. (It may be epic too!)

And Mosul, you need to package up one of those self-propelled Arty’s and UPS it to sam. We had a great series of comments about how to protect sam in his NYC cab with one!

Attorney General of the Matty I Fan Club

by PhinsTifosi on Sep 26, 2009 10:50 AM EDT reply actions  

sam in a paladin

“wait, what does this lever to again?”

;-)

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 26, 2009 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think the cab is enough for sam

2009 is a year of respect ladies and gentlemen. Lets get it.

"i think we have to look at it through his shoes" tuscanitunr talkin about brett farve.

13 1/2 phinsider fued points!!!

by MrMedic on Sep 26, 2009 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol lefty and medic

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by samdaman on Sep 26, 2009 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol yea that was awesome

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by samdaman on Sep 26, 2009 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

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