Report: Tonight's game could be beginning of the end for Pennington
by Matty I on Sep 21, 2009 3:23 PM EDT
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PrintTake this for what it's worth, but the National Football Post's Michael Lombardi - a former NFL exec who is one of the more accurate "rumor-mongers" in the media - is reporting that tonight's game could potentially be a very big one for Dolphins QB Chad Pennington. Lombardi writes that a bad game from Pennington could jump-start the Chad Henne era in Miami rather quickly:
I hear the Monday night game is a big one for Chad Pennington, who has to show the Dolphins he can do more than just manage the game. He must prove he can make big plays in the passing game. Everyone (including me) gave Carolina Panthers quarterback Jake Delhomme grief for his last two games, but what about Pennington? Six turnovers (five interceptions, one fumble), two touchdown passes, and he was sacked seven times. Pennington needs to show up or the Chad Henne era might be starting in Miami sooner than later.
Just another intriguing storyline as we head into the Dolphins' home opener tonight against the Colts. With that said, though, I hope somebody gets this little nugget into Pennington's hands. A little extra motivation for CP can't hurt.
But while many will want to focus on Pennington tonight, I'm putting the emphasis on Miami's offensive line. They have got to open up some running lanes and keep Pennington upright. After all, if the Dolphins can't establish the run and can't protect the quarterback, then it will not even matter who is under center.
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That's just what we need to do...
treat Penington like The Jets did. Where did that get them? They had to get a QB in the first round several years later.
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And now they have a franchise qb...
i’m starting to agree with Wny on the Jets gave us cp as a ticking progress stopping bomb… lmao
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Good call...
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by FinsFromBrazil on Sep 21, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
give sanchez more then 2 games
before we crown him a franchise qb. He has had two ok games. I think both defenses they faced are weak. So lets see what happens when they play a good defensive team like the phins. Pennington should be our horse this “season” if he cant move the team forward well then next season we can move on to the youngster.
Let the fight begin
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I thought it would take at least until tomorrow...
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by FinsFromBrazil on Sep 21, 2009 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions
#hands matty a laddle#
2009 is a year of respect ladies and gentlemen. Lets get it.
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Win-Win for us
IF we win – woohooOOOOOOOOO 1-1 baby
If we lose – Ol’ Noodle Armed Progress Stopper’s day’s are over!!!! WOOOHOOOOOOOOOO
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...(fighting the tears of joy)
Thanks man…I appreciate it
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I want Penne to do well
Besides the fact that I would love to throw a great game at my friend the Colts fan’s face. But I am sooo ready for the Henne era to begin. And please, if there is anyone listening, if you run the wildcat tonight, let Ronnie do it and keep Pat White inactive.
Well said
I want Penne to do well. Besides the fact that I would love to throw a great game at my friend the Colts fan’s face. But I am sooo ready for the Henne era to begin.
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Hope u know what u wish 4!!
And all of this is been said because the early success(?) of sanchez, go figure!
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And all of this is been said because the early success(?) of sanchez, go figure!
You must had not read my other examples. Let me go down the list for you.
1)Big Ben.
2)Flacco
3)Ryan
4)Eli
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big ben also didnt make his team lose playoffs in his second season...
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LOL these comparisons need to stop.
Big Ben had Ward, awesome defense and a good run game.
Flacco had an awesome run game, a good o-line and the best defense in the league.
Ryan had a good o-line, Roddy White, the best run offense in the game.
Eli had a good run game, good defense and damn good o-line.
In Sanchez’s 2 games he has had a good o-line, one of the best defenses and a bunch of options at WR and a good run game.
Henne would have- no go to wide receiver, a shaky o-line with 2 new starters, an inconsistent run game and a defense that can only stop the run.
Logical comparisons would be very much apperciated but to act like Henne is in the same situation as any of those other guys is extremely laughable.
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Henne is in the same situation as any of those other guys is extremely laughable
It is?
So our O-line wasn’t greatly improved last year?
Our defense didn’t keep us in games, adn wasn’t very good last year?
Who was Roddy WHite when Vick was the QB in Atlanta?
Sanchez has a bunch of options at WR huh? Any pro-bowlers in that group. I can say Penne has “abunch of options too”
So I’m posting tellin you our O-lin was greatly improved last year.
I’m also posting that we have a damn good defense.
And I’ll put up Ronnie and Ricky against any team combo of anytime you wanna throw at me.
So tell me, why are these comparisons extremely laughable.
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I made the comparison to Delhomme in my arguement in the last story
I sorry. I’m seeing too many young, especially rookie QBs coming in and doing excately what Pennington is doing now. Not only that, they are winning and getting better. Meanwhile down in South Beach, some/most people are saying, Pennington is everything, we can’t win without him, what will we do?!?
I’ll tell ya what will do, we’ll put our young QB in the game and let him manage and get xp too. We’ll see what we got and see if he developes like a Flacco, Big Ben, Ryan, (hell look at Sanchez).
Flacco and Ryan were rookies last year and took thier teams as far, futher as rookies as our, excuse me, some peoples savior, Pennington did last year. Now anyone see how many points Flacco and Ryan are starting to put up now?
Its not like out offnse has been this big juggernaut anyways. Trick plays, wierd formations, and the WC is hardly a scary offense. I’m not saying Henne will be that good. I’m just saying, lets continue with our rebuilding process and see what we got at ALL postions, not just some.
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All of those young qb's did have something in common.
Great supporting cast!! U r NUTS if u beleive that Henne will survive last year. Dont think he will today!
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Why not?
Our o-line was pretty good. —> its even better now
We had a strong running game – we still do
Defense is pretty damn good → its excellent right now
He’d make this offense much more explosive.
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finsx! R u talking the same Oline that
almost let get kill CP10 last week?
Or whos Oline r u talking about?
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I'm talkin about the o-line that gave cp enough time to make a decision and make a throw
The fact that he holds the ball pretty long and needs to do windup to throw the ball more than 10 yards doesn’t exactly help….
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that's not really fair.
i think CP is supposed to manage games, not win them, and he is teaching Henne how to do the same – be a good game manager, not a strong armed “put the team on his back” kind of QB. No team needs that kind of guy, with the big ego and wants it to be all about him.
As long as we can squeak by in games by a point or two in the last 2 mins, CP should remain QB. And we should get working on that contract extension before someone grabs him in the offseason.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 21, 2009 4:07 PM EDT reply actions
Sorry left your wrong
Can’t win a cahmpionship with “just” a game manager. At some point were gonna have to quick witht the trick plays and ask a QB to win games for us.
As long as we can squeak by in games by a point or two in the last 2 mins, CP should remain QB
How many times are we gonna ask our defense wo win games for us until our offnse can muster enough points? Didn’t you see that enough during the Whanny/Fielder years? I know I had enough.
And we should get working on that contract extension before someone grabs him in the offseason.He is gone after this year, get over it.
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If I would just proof read. -)
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instead of bolding quotes use that quote icon. I get confused....
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i think CP is supposed to manage games, not win them, and he is teaching Henne how to do the same – be a good game manager, not a strong armed "put the team on his back" kind of QB. No team needs that kind of guy, with the big ego and wants it to be all about him.
Lol so a person who can carry his team is all of a sudden a big ego guy? lmao
CP should remain QB. And we should get working on that contract extension before someone grabs him in the offseason.
You kidding me? Seriously lefty….wow…
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I seriously think Left has been drinking. He has has 2 bad weeks in Fantasy. Got crushed by me last week, and his bench outscored his starters by almost 30 points this week. Just give him time, he’ll come around.
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I think he's going through a tough time. I keep telling him I'm here for him but he just doesn't listen.
He doesn’t even page me any more…
I think all this failing during the CP has to go arguements has left him demoralized and emasculated…
Hopefully we’ll see lefty back in season form soon enough
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 22, 2009 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions
pennington cant win games from behind
last year the dolphins played the easiset schedulein the NFL they actually didnt play from behind by 10pts or more much.This year they play the toughest schedule in the NFL they will be behind a lot more.Pennington is a winner but playing for the Dolphins when they get behind by 10pts or more since he is limited because of shoulder issues in the downfield pass the defenses and coaches know this and it makes it very difficult to improbable that he can play from behind and win.Now it is a different story if ahead or in a close game as he plays a conservative game which is relatively mistake free and is great with the lead.I think the Dolphins need to bring in the reliever quick when pennington is having a bad day or gets too far behind.The whole NFL seems reluctant to bring in the reliever and in this case Henne is supposedly the heir apparent to the job well then bring him in lets see if he can bring the Dolphins back from behind.
Everybody who is clammoring....
for the Chad Henne era, can effectively kiss any shot at the playoffs this year goodbye. I am intrigued by what Henne has to offer, sure. But I also want to see a winner out there, and right now I think Chad P. gives them their best shot.
LMAO!!! Thats probably the funniest thing i've heard...
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Atleast Henne wont spike the ball and completely give up on a play 2 seconds into it. he's not that type of "leader"
He can make all the throws – pennington cant
He opens up this offensive because he can actually get the ball down the field
- thus no more of that stacking the box crap
- thus helping the Run game
And its a legitmate step into the future, no more of this panzy ass progress stopping nonsense.
That being said… GO DOLPHINS!!!
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Hold on Fins
We are dealing with the same guy who had Camcam back even when we were 0-11, and Beck was the answer. I asked him to explain why Henne will stink it up, looking foward to his response.
Matty will hang on to the last bit of hope to anyone thats starts or coach. Even until 0-13.
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I love how he convieniently decides not to mention Cp flat out giving up
and then backs him up saying how he’s such a good leader and is our only shot at winning and playoffs…
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Concur what?
Thats probably the funniest thing i’ve heard…??
Matty, please tell me why you think we can’t win if we take Pennigton out? I’ll tell you why I think we can.
Flacco and Ryan, 2 rookies took their teams to the playoffs. I see Sanchez and the Jets sitting at 2-0 with a credible road win at Houston and w win over the Pats. We have a good defense and a solid running game just like those rookie qbs. Only difference? Our QB has sit a year to watch, which benefits us.
So please tell me why you think Henne is gonna come in and stink it up.
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o-line
that’s the biggest reason. Sanchez, Flacco, Ryan – all of them were protected well. Until this o-line is playing as good as it should be, there’s no reason to subject Henne to a potential beating. He won’t be able to make reads as fast as CP.
Says who?
Last week I saw a very indecisive Chad Pennington, One that held the ball too long and isn’t able to extend to play at all.
I’m not saying henne is as quick in the pocket as Dan Marino or John beck, but he can do that.
Plus defenses will have to respect the passing game. Opens up the run game.
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UGH JOHN BECK
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im sorry
nuthin but love, finsx, with an F
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ummmm, thanks?
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I don't think it'll open up the passing game.
Defenses will blitz even more until Henne proves he can beat them. And who is to say he can. He has an arm but I haven’t seen too many accurate deep balls fro Henne.
But you admit it'll open up the run game!
Seriously though. Defenses dont even blitz they just coast there.
If they blitz…all the better. He has a quick release and he is aware of the check downs…
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Who is to say he can't?
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Yes
Matty is always right on the money
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Ok. Dr.Steadman
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ok DR. steadman
WTF….
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMtVvJq47kQ
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Pennington has just about lost
the past 2 games he started all by himself with his TOs. I said almost. Right now, our rookie QB can turn the ball over less than 6 time in 2 games. Right now Penne is giving us our best chance to lose.
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well said.
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I am not as interested in Pennington's play right now as I am the offensive line and Vontae Davis...
I’ve looked at CP10 as a gap filler since he arrived in South Beach, and while I am extremely appreciative of what he did for us — both on the field and with educating Chad Henne — last season, I don’t see the point of a Penne/Henne argument because Henne is already being groomed as his successor. Whether it takes one season (like the Kitna/Carson Palmer situation) or two, Chad’s our choice as a franchise qb. Again, I really like Chad Pennington, but he’s not taking us to the promised land.
All of that said, I am going to be watching our O line and #21 tonight. I still believe our offensive line needs a bit more time to develop the kind of chemistry that will make them the best line in the league (and I firmly believe they will soon become just that. Call me crazy, but I think they are built to dominate once they fully mature as players). Jake Long can make HUGE strides as a premier blindside tackle by bullying around Indy’s DEs tonight.
I am also intrigued to see how Vontae Davis looks tonight. I don’t expect him to be anywhere near perfect — far from it, actually. He’ll probably make a few stupid plays (as any rookie would on their first MNF appearance), but I would love to see him come out and be aggressive with Indy’s wide receivers. I started hoping for Davis to fall to us during the 2008 college football season, and now that we have him, I am hoping he’ll live up to my expectations and add some real teeth to our secondary.
Man, I am jacked up for this game. I am so glad the Dolphins are back on MNF.
THATS GARBAGE!!
CHAD PENNINGTON GIVES US THE BEST CHANCE TO WIN…PERIOD!!
hilarious
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YES
"it is with books as with men, a few play a great part, and the rest are lost in the multitude."-Voltaire
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Let's look at the silver lining admist our "QB Dilemma"
At least we didn’t take Brady Quinn! Cleveland traded away their ass for him and is now already speculating whether they should look for a qb in the draft next year. Can’t say Ted Ginn Jr. was my first choice at that #9 spot, but I’d say we dodged a bullet there (which is the ONLY compliment I would ever give to the Cam Cam-moron/Randy “I will trade away our future for a box of Krispy Kreme doughnuts” Mueller draft alliance).
I'm still a little upset we got ginn instead of quinn
not because ginn is bad, but because of our qb situation. Right nwo we would have definetly had our franchise guy with 1-2 years under his belt….would’ve been epic…
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nah
Brady Quinn wouldn’t have been the answer I don’t think.
If we’re playing the “woulda, shoulda” game, I wish the Fins would have taken Patrick Willis. But hindsight is 20/20.
That's true.
But i’m coping.
=)
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Oh Oh I wanna play too
I wish the Fins would’ve signed Drew Brees instead of Culpepper
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Ted ginn jr lol... hes good... NOT
but Quinn sucks too, P willis was the way to go
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I meet a Phin fan in school today, thought I was the only one, lol
He said, “I’m glad we have Chad on our team. He makes the plays and when he can’t he just throws it away, which is a good move”
Chad, everyone loves ya, don’t screw it up tonight
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How quickly they forget
Took the reigns on a 1-15 team and brought them to the playoffs in 2008?. Thanks for that. An interception and a fumble in game 1 of the 2009 season? Unforgivable. We never liked you. You can’t throw the long ball. You can’t come from behind to win games. You’re a progress stopper. You’ll never win the Super Bowl for us. Hit the bench noodle arm. In fact, after this year, don’t show your face around here anymore.
I’m not saying there shouldn’t be debate on who should start, but the vitriol is just a damn shame. I really hope he sticks it in your ear tonight.
by Los Angeles Phinatic on Sep 21, 2009 5:20 PM EDT reply actions 5 recs
your being sarcastic aren't you?
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We've been saying it all off-season long bucko
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Yes and bad fan management, it's been.
Armchair QB's always complete the pass and armchair coaches always pick the right players.
Yes, Larry Little is still the man.
I just don't get it
If he is so great, why were we 0-2 and had to bring in the WC formation at the NE game.
Futhermore, if he was all this. Why did the Jets keep Clemons and release Pennington?
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If he was so good why do we still go to the wildcat for a big play? Why do we have to bring in White to throw a deep pass?
Because he just can’t get it done..
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Whats with the sudden assumption that every game needs to be a shootout to the end zone?
A W is a W.
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less likely with cp.
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This post is like a sandbox taken over by the Penne haters.
Well, “He MAN Penne Haters Club.” While you drink your kool aid slurp on this.
Penne lost the ball twice in Atlanta. The O line lost Penne just about ALL game. The receivers did little to get separation. Who should you be blaming.
To use the last game of last year the the first game of this year as the measuring stick show poor vison and thin coaching styles
ALL YOU PENNE HATERS STAY AWAY FROM MY KIDS FOOTBALL TEAM!
Armchair QB's always complete the pass and armchair coaches always pick the right players.
Yes, Larry Little is still the man.
I love Penne and what he has done for this team
but if and when the tri-fecta decide to make the change I will assume that they know what they are doing. I assume that there is a good reason that they are running an NFL team and none of us are.
by texascowpunk on Sep 21, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm not a noodle arm hater...I'm just a realist.
Just because I choose not to look at Cp as a miracle man, hero, god-in-football-form, Messiah, saviour, and Great qb
doesnt mean I hate him…just means I’m realistic.
He cant make all the throws, he’s not that good, and plus defenses can easily combat him.
It’s not too hard to see he’s very bad. Its even harder to see he’s good. because quitefrankly…he’s not.
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Not well said
The O line lost the Atl game.
Armchair QB's always complete the pass and armchair coaches always pick the right players.
Yes, Larry Little is still the man.
yep...the o-line was responsible for the interception and the fumble.
The o-line was responsible for sloppy qb play
the O-line was responsible for indecisiveness
the o-line was resppnsible for innaccurate passes…
was the o-line also responsible for the william’s sister’s epic meltdown?
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no, only grove was
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K!! Im ready to call this season over!!
Bring Henne and screw this season. Then we can move on a look 4 a Qb 4 the rest of our life. Welcome back to Marino’s post era.!!
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Why is bring in Henne callin in the season.
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yea right? How is henne in automattically the ending of the season....
Just because Henne starts doesnt mean that they automattically but an L down….
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Is not gona be 1 L down, but a LOT of those!
Why i asume that position? cause Henne have NOT shown anything better than CP10, is common sence.
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yep its common sence!
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chad really deserves more respect
he get things done, and he got us 2 the playoffs last year
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he deserves alot of respect...
Our whole team needs respect
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Nope sorry
Parcells, Ireland got us to the playoffs.
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and Sparano. and all the other players
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but he wont win them.
I’d rather win the superbowl then just reach the playoffs.
If that means taking a little risk than I’m willing to take it.
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we put in henne now we wont make the playoffs
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says who? and who says with cp we are going to make the playoffs
WE have a higher chance with henne seeing as how we play ALOT of good defenses this season and henne gives us the best shot against guys like that.
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because you think you know what is right for this team why don’t you just apply to be a coach that way you can actually prove a point.
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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Sep 21, 2009 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions
because I am not interested in coaching the dolphins. just making the personell decisions. and the depth chart...
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well because you are that interesed go take Jeff Ireland's job
I’m sure he will love your ideas
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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Sep 21, 2009 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions
U have to be kidding urself!
Neo, if u beleive that we have a 1st round qb in Henne, u r triping bro!
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by Aleta on Sep 21, 2009 5:35 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
We have a 2nd round quarterback who opens up the offense more than CP ever will
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All the qbs names that Neo is calling R 1st rounders!!
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Thigpen played lights out on a crappy team last year...and was he a first rounder?
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maybe
if he can see his target
or
hit his target…
Armchair QB's always complete the pass and armchair coaches always pick the right players.
Yes, Larry Little is still the man.
exactly
"it is with books as with men, a few play a great part, and the rest are lost in the multitude."-Voltaire
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When did I say that?
If only you would be altogether silent! For you, that would be wisdom.
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Unless CP sucks so bad here in the next few games...or he gets hurt
CP will lead this team.
I don’t care if he doesn’t have a gun for an arm. He won us games and deserves our respect
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I'm giving up on this argument...it's pointless
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kdog that is
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My too!
I didnt understood why Matty I bring this up?
He is the one saying that he is tire of this pointless discutions.
Maybe Matty I is near the Henne bandwagon after all.
I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(22 years and counting)
Matty should get a demerit.
Armchair QB's always complete the pass and armchair coaches always pick the right players.
Yes, Larry Little is still the man.
I'm not going to debate this - especially on a game day
But the bottom line is that it’s much easier right now to be in favor of Henne than it is against. People who are in favor of Henne have much more ammunition to use in their arguments than those in favor of holding off on Henne right now.
But that doesn’t mean it’s right. Let’s just give CP time. If he continues to struggle, we’ll see Henne soon enough and all the “pro-Henne” people can rejoice. But the debate itself is tired and old.
lol matty. you are really getting tired of it....its ok...all just a couple more hours untill gameday and we are all reunited again..
pro-henne
pro-cp
when it comes down to it. we just want to win.
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exactly
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Armchair QB's always complete the pass and armchair coaches always pick the right players.
Yes, Larry Little is still the man.
Penne is far from bad in 9 years, his
Career Stats:
Passer rating 8th 90.5
Passing Yds per Game 31st 204.3
Sacks Yds lost 107th 946
Interceptions 173rd 63
Yd per Pass Att 48th 7.2
These are not the stats deserving an “He Man Penne Haters Club.”
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he's on pace to have the highest completion rate EVER
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he does right now
66.0 percent
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yep. he's one of the best at throwing checkdowns and 3 yard passes!!!
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at least he completes them!
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tell him tuna
especially that phinsxfactors guy
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Man...
if only we had stuck with Beck and Lemon we wouldn’t be having this discussion!
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yea i know
lol… damn that Beck, back in his day, we were unbeatable
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Whats really a shame is that we let AJ Feeley the Legend get away from us....
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yea
a.j. feeley, he wasnt nearly as bad as f@#$in John Beck though
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LOL
You should not be allowed to post on here when your high!
by texascowpunk on Sep 21, 2009 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions
groan
OOOOkkkaaayyyy. If you insist turning MNF into a thread about Penne-vs-Henne thread.
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its not a debate
its moronic
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I know you are but what am i
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thats a p attack
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WTF...
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I've always said Chad Pennington is feast or famine QB
one year we feast, next its famine.
We are in a famine year. Lets hope the football gods have decided to break the cycle.
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k guys im out cya
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wont be missed
"it is with books as with men, a few play a great part, and the rest are lost in the multitude."-Voltaire
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just kiddin...
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I'm convinced there will be some phin fans who won't be happy till Marino Favre's his way out of retirement.
LOL
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yes
these bozos are unbelievable, Pennington is great we all know that, its his time now, not Chad bonehead Henne
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Yup thats why the Jets traded for Farve and released him instead of Clemons
Because he is soooooooooooooo great
If only you would be altogether silent! For you, that would be wisdom.
- Job 13:5
Everybody knows by now that 99% of Jets fans regret that move.
With that running game and defense there is no chance in hell he doesn’t take them to the playoffs.
I'm sure if you ask a Jets fan now
They would say Chad who?
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Let's get the f!&@%#$ running game going!
Great posts Matty, I gotta say i agree with most of what you write. I don’t think we should give up on Chad P just yet, he’s too smart to sit on the bench and Henne ain’t quite ready. Let’s get the damn O-line straight, we have TWO great running backs that just need room to break loose! We just need the threat of a passing game to open things up for RB and RW. GO F’IN FINS!!!
Congrats on getting such a big spoon Matty!
Way to stir it up!
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He did it purpose
1st Fin Monday night game in well over a year.
You can’t convince me he didn’t.-)
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exactly what was i thinking
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i was already thinking this
if the o line protects him and open holes for R and R, and the D fense limits the points our opponents score and we lose three more games because CP10 dumps it down every time. IF ALL THIS HAPPENS THEN PULL THE PLUG AND PUT CHAD HENNE
OFFENSE- Protect the Quaterback at all costs
DEFFENSE- Get to the Quaterback at all costs
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by kewlguy on Sep 21, 2009 7:17 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
You cannot blame the last loss on CP and if you do you obivously have an agenda.
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by cbdolphin on Sep 21, 2009 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
im just being realisti and looking to the future
if we cant win with CP10 if all that happens we should give it to Henne. He is our future unless proven otherwise
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by kewlguy on Sep 21, 2009 7:38 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Well, considering we went 0-2 last year and won our division, I think we can win with CP10.
I have faith in our coaching staff. When it is time to pull the plug, they will pull the plug.
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I DO TOO
but if were 0-4 this would prove he cant win against great teams. Remember the restraints I put on my decision
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by kewlguy on Sep 21, 2009 7:48 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
it should read
three more STRAIGHT LOSSES
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by kewlguy on Sep 21, 2009 7:40 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
A int and a fumble lost
he did contribute to the loss. Was he the sole reason no. Just like he is not the sole reason for us winning 11 games and going to the playoffs.
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well said
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by kewlguy on Sep 21, 2009 7:55 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
yeah but why isn't every calling for Longs, Careys, Browns, Ginns, Fasanos head?
They contributed to the loss just as much if not more than CP10.
And CP10 was the biggest reason the team won 11 games last season. Him getting runner up MVP says alot.
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there are reasons
long is young and had seven bad plays out of 52 and did well on the rest. and brown has speed and strength
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by kewlguy on Sep 21, 2009 8:06 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
also
they have no obvious backups that might be able to play well otherwise youd hear it
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by kewlguy on Sep 21, 2009 8:10 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
And CP10 was the biggest reason the team won 11 games
No he wasn’t. Coaching, better o-line play, better defense play. running game. ALl those were bigger reasons than Pennington.
yeah but why isn’t every calling for Longs, Careys, Browns, Ginns, Fasanos head?
Because they are our future. Pennington isn’t. Isn’t like we got people on the bench waiting to take over their spots.
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well put
neo what would you say if all that happens?
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Enjoy the game...
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by Fins4evr72 on Sep 21, 2009 7:38 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
i was already thinking this
if the o line protects him and open holes for R and R, and the D fense limits the points our opponents score and we lose three more games because CP10 dumps it down every time. IF ALL THIS HAPPENS THEN PULL THE PLUG AND PUT CHAD HENNE
OFFENSE- Protect the Quaterback at all costs
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by kewlguy on Sep 21, 2009 7:39 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Well...
We’ll have quite a bit to talk about if things don’t go well for CP and Henne does somehow end up in the game…and we win…oh boy….
Great Debate!!!
I can’t give my opinion anymore, because I got crushed in the other post because of it…
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CP is the man!
I don’t know where all you Chad Pennington haters came from, but he is the best QB on the team period. In week one the O-line did not do there job and it showed(not CP’s fault). This week they showed up, look at the stats. 45 minutes the offense had the ball, the run game went for 230 plus yards, with the exception of his final two passes CP was spot on with his passes. Five or six passes hit receivers hands and they failed to come down with first downs or more importantly touchdowns(yeah, I’m talking about you TED GINN). Missed field goals, dropped passes, and the secondary not respecting Manning is why we lost, not CP’s fault. I would like to see the next Dan Marion just like everyone else but we are a running team. Four half backs and a fullback, its not rocket science.
CP is not the man
Ronnie Brown is the man.
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have to agree
it looked to me that ronnie was the 2nd best QB to take the field yesterday.
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So do you think the Jets intentionally did it to set the organization back 3 years or was it just an unintended side effect of their move.
by W NY Fins Fan on Sep 23, 2009 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions
CP
AS I SAID LAST YEAR I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST CP…GOOD HEADY QB WHO DOESNT MAKE MANY MISSTAKES…BUT OBVIOUSLY DOESNT HAVE THE MOXIE TO LEAD US TO A SB WIN..AS PROVED WITH HIS YRS IN NY…WE NEED TO PLAY HENNE TO FIND OUT IF HES OUR FUTURE AND LET HIM TAKE HIS LUMPS…ALL WE DID LAST YEAR WAS SCREW OURSELVES OF A BETTER DRAFT PICK..AS THIS TEAM ISNT SB CALIBER YET ANYWAY..STILL NEED CPL STUDS ON DEFENSE AND A TRUE DOMINANT RCVR…ATL IS PLAYING THEIRS AND SO IS BALTIMORE…ITS TIME FOR TONY TO MAKE THE TRANSITION THIS SEASON RATHER THAN NEXT
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So how does everyone feel, now that it's Tuesday..?
I was glued to the tv from pre-game till the game clock tick triple zero….
So this is the first moment I’ve come back to see what has been going on on the blog… very interesting to find this post. Read most of the comments… feel sad for our loss.
I really do wonder what is going to be decided in the next two days over the team’s QB situation. One thing that does stick with me from last night’s loss….. the two-minute drill at the end was non-existent. Seemed to me it was all on CP10 for that failure.
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ya, really fun game to watch. i think the D blew it, but CP also blew the 2 min drill. We should have had a better shot than a hail mary on the last play.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 22, 2009 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
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I feel CP had a great game last night. The coaches need to have faith in him, and let him try to win the game and not play soft. If that was Peyton, he never would’ve settled to run on 3rd & 6. If anybodies to blame it’s the receivers, preferably Ted Ginn(I’m soft),jr.
by Shinobi_Shogun on Sep 22, 2009 10:27 PM EDT reply actions
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Good points… you’re right in that here was no faith in the passing game… don’t know where the weaker area was tho….
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