Dolphins vs Colts: Miami's Keys to Victory
Monday's home opener against the Colts can't get here quick enough. We're all still pretty disappointed in how last week's season opener played out and the only remedy for all of us is a Dolphins win over the Colts. But that obviously won't be easy. Below are my three keys to victory for the Dolphins.
After reading them, be sure to tell us your thoughts below.
Pound the rock
There's been a lot of talk this week about whether or not the Dolphins might have abandoned the run too quickly last week against Atlanta. There might be some truth to that. While the Dolphins did run for just 38 yards on 10 carries in the first half, it was still only a 10-0 game to start the third quarter. But to open the second half, rather than feeding the ball to the two best offensive weapons on this team - Ronnie Brown and Ricky Williams - Dan Henning decided to run it twice in a row with Lousaka Polite. The end result? A 3rd & 5 and a three and out. Following an Atlanta three and out, the Dolphins again had a chance to establish the run. But again, they decided not to. Chad Pennington dropped back to pass three consecutive times and the Dolphins again went three and out.
On Monday night, the Dolphins face one of the greatest quarterbacks of all-time and they must do whatever they can to keep Peyton Manning off of the field. The easiest way to do that is to run the football effectively. It keeps the clock moving and keeps the team in manageable 3rd down situations.
Despite the fact that Indy's defense will be better against the run this year than in years past thanks to having bigger, more physical defensive tackles, the Jaguars still ran the ball for 114 yards on 26 carries last week. Last season, the Colts ranked just 24th in the NFL in rush defense, surrendering 122 yards per game on the ground. And in 2008, the Colts were 7-3 when they allowed over 100 yards rushing and 5-1 when they didn't. But 5 of Indy's 7 wins when allowing over 100 yards on the ground were by 4 points or less.
To keep the score close and have a chance to win, the Dolphins must run the ball on Monday night.
Don't let Reggie Wayne beat you
Marvin Harrison remains a free agent and Anthony Gonzalez will miss the game with an injury. So there are just two major offensive weapons the Dolphins must contest with when the Colts pass the ball - Reggie Wayne and Dallas Clark. We know how Miami has struggled in 2009 covering opposing tight ends. But I still think it's more important to take Reggie Wayne out of the game. Last week against Jacksonville, Wayne was targeted 14 times by Peyton Manning and caught 10 balls for 162 yards and a touchdown. If you let Wayne catch that many passes, the Colts will beat you.
So how do you do this? If I'm the defensive coordinator, I get physical with Wayne and beat him up at the line of scrimmage. Cornerbacks have five yards to bump receivers and I think the Dolphins must do just that. Wayne isn't a burner - he beats you with great route running and amazing timing with Manning. To disrupt that timing , you have got to get in his face and physically abuse him within those five yards.
If the Dolphins can keep Wayne relatively quiet and force Manning to go to guys like Pierre Garcon and Austin Collie more frequently, then the Dolphins could really surprise the national audience that will be tuning into this game.
Be the aggressor
So often last week it seemed like the Dolphins were playing scared. It seemed like they were tentative on both sides of the ball. Well you don't beat good teams like that. And they won't be the Colts like that.
I want to see the Dolphins be aggressive on offense and on defense. I want to see Chad Pennington take some shots down the football field. I don't care if they fall incomplete. Just let Indy know you're willing to go long if it's there. Force Indy's defense to keep that in the back of their minds all game.
Defensively, I want to see this team get after Peyton Manning. Don't be afraid that Manning will beat you. You know what - if you give Manning enough time in the pocket, he'll be you regardless. So why not get after him aggressively? I don't want to see the Dolphins react on defense to what the Colts are doing. I want to see the Colts be forced to react to what Miami is doing. Bring some pressure. Use some exotic blitz packages. Make Peyton Manning as uncomfortable as you can. And most importantly, knock Manning around a little.
The Dolphins aren't expected by many to win this game. So what do they have to lose? Play physical and be aggressive. Don't play not to lose - play to win.
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it doesnt matter. we already lost one, seasons over!
by FishNFinz on Sep 18, 2009 12:33 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You can jump on the Canes Bandwagon.. They look GREAT!
by PresClintonius on Sep 18, 2009 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Undefeated season for the Canes!
6th title!!!!!
by texascowpunk on Sep 18, 2009 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea baby go canes
I hope we win this week
Can't wait untill Sean Smith puts Randy Moss on his ass lol, Co-Vice President of the official Matty I fan club.
by jojo phin fan on Sep 18, 2009 1:25 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Damn son them Canes looked good last night.
Swagger U is backkk
"check that...the 29th of Feb. this year.....why is that the record day for hits? Did Matty have the Kim Kardashian sex tape or something?"
-Treat
"yes he did. and Jersquall recut it to look like Marino was boning her."
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by chrislucas on Sep 18, 2009 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The swagger is most definatly back!
About time!
by texascowpunk on Sep 18, 2009 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
niggas be out to kill someone
"check that...the 29th of Feb. this year.....why is that the record day for hits? Did Matty have the Kim Kardashian sex tape or something?"
-Treat
"yes he did. and Jersquall recut it to look like Marino was boning her."
-Treasure
by chrislucas on Sep 18, 2009 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
unfourtuntley i agree
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No hating on Jay Fiedler, please.
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by samdaman on Sep 18, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no
GO GATORS
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by samdaman on Sep 18, 2009 7:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
boooooo!
hope tennesee pulls the upset
Laces out!
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by BSerious72 on Sep 18, 2009 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Never going to happen!
As a UF Alum, I expect Urban Meyer to run up the score after all the crap Kiffin said.
We ran it up on George last year, after they celebrated in our endzone the year before… now its payback.
by Fr8Train on Sep 18, 2009 12:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would like to see it but
NO way that Tenn beats Fl. I am guessing this is the day that will teach Kiffin to keep his damn mouth shut.
by texascowpunk on Sep 18, 2009 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
helllllllll no
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by samdaman on Sep 18, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Season's over????
WOW Way to give up on your team already man. I agree we have a tuff schedule but who doesn’t? I don’t believe in all that strength of schedule crap. This is not the NFL of old anymore where you can look at a team like the old Buccaneers or Lions and say “Oh, that’s a easy win”. There is no easy team out there. Anyone can beat anybody at any given time. The Bills almost beat the Pats last week and the Raider held their ground against the Chargers. If you look at any team’s schedule, you will see that they have it as tuff as we do. Different teams have different opponents but they are still very strong teams. That’s why I love the NFL. It’s never short on competition. Don’t throw in the towel man…it’s way too early. That kind of stuff needs to wait until the closing weeks of the season…not after week 1.
by Flying11 on Sep 18, 2009 8:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think he was making a joke...
"check that...the 29th of Feb. this year.....why is that the record day for hits? Did Matty have the Kim Kardashian sex tape or something?"
-Treat
"yes he did. and Jersquall recut it to look like Marino was boning her."
-Treasure
by chrislucas on Sep 18, 2009 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by Alpha6 on Sep 18, 2009 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Secondary needs to be alert from the start.
I attended the Falcons game, and I clearly saw our young corners get burned twice, early, on deep throws, luckily Matt Ryan over threw them both. Sean Smith more than made up for it, with great coverage following and a near interception but we cant afford that type of complacency against P. Manning early on. I for one hope they activate Cameron Wake, even if it meant Pat White was deactivated. White has huge upside and threat potential, but let it simmer in practice a few weeks before tossing him in Primetime. Much rather see Wakes Sack Potential. I was not impressed with the pass rush last week and it didnt seem like we hurried the QB enough, as we are capable of.
by PresClintonius on Sep 18, 2009 12:46 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This was an outstanding post, Matty!!
You really dialed in on something. This team has to learn that killer aggression if they’re going to have any success, and that’s in all 3 phases of the game. That’s the only way. Especially with our young secondary, they have to take it to those guys. I wish I could be there on Monday night.
"If anything goes bad, I did it. If anything goes semi-good, we did it. If anything goes really good you did it. That's all it takes to get people to win football games for you."
Coach Paul Bear Bryant
by AussieKen on Sep 18, 2009 2:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Man people are losing hope already?!
It’s been one game, and we held one of the most potent offenses in the league to very few points. If our run defense plays like it did last game Payton will be forced to throw the ball alot more. Which isn’t nessesarily a good thing, but being able to play the pass more than the run will allow for those exotic fun blitz packages that will put Manning on his butt.
Hopefully after last week the offense (inparticularly o-line) is going to come out with a big chip on their shoulders and will want to earn their big paychecks. Jake is going to go up against dwight freeney and i’m sure he’s going to want to show that last week was a total fluke against Abraham. There is no way i would ever give up on a phins season after one game. GO for it Miami!!!
by phinfan Neal on Sep 18, 2009 2:43 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
On the Colts defensive front
I would like to point out that our defense is going to have two players that didn’t play last week. Ed Johnson and rookie second round pick Fili Moala. Johnson is the actually starter at UT, but didnt play last week due to a suspension.
by metal_militia on Sep 18, 2009 2:58 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Those guys really don't matter.
Its all about what Matty said and if our guys are ready to kick ass on Monday, we can get a nice win at home. Its going to be against an all-time great like Peyton Manning, however.
"If anything goes bad, I did it. If anything goes semi-good, we did it. If anything goes really good you did it. That's all it takes to get people to win football games for you."
Coach Paul Bear Bryant
by AussieKen on Sep 18, 2009 3:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The secondary better be ready...
We’ve had a week to figure out the Colts offense and defense. We should be ready for this game. I hope we can force some turnovers and have no turnovers..by us.
Go Phins
Go Colts (my highschool team)
Go Stingers (my uncles highschool team)
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by Kdog92 on Sep 18, 2009 5:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
lol stingers
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by samdaman on Sep 18, 2009 7:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you from nc kdog92
Fin fan till the end no doubt.........................
by DolfanfromNC on Sep 18, 2009 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes...i'm guessing you are too...
Your best? Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and fuck the prom queen! -Sean Connery
"Why not us?"- Tony Sparano
by Kdog92 on Sep 18, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thaught u were from pitt?
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No hating on Jay Fiedler, please.
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by samdaman on Sep 18, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol what gave it away jk lol
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by DolfanfromNC on Sep 18, 2009 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol...
Your best? Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and fuck the prom queen! -Sean Connery
"Why not us?"- Tony Sparano
by Kdog92 on Sep 18, 2009 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh wait....misunderstood the NC
I don’t live in North Carolina but my hometown’s initials are NC, i’m so stupid lol
Your best? Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and fuck the prom queen! -Sean Connery
"Why not us?"- Tony Sparano
by Kdog92 on Sep 18, 2009 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
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by DolfanfromNC on Sep 18, 2009 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol nice going kdog
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by samdaman on Sep 18, 2009 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i know right...
Your best? Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and fuck the prom queen! -Sean Connery
"Why not us?"- Tony Sparano
by Kdog92 on Sep 19, 2009 6:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
rough day
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No hating on Jay Fiedler, please.
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by samdaman on Sep 19, 2009 7:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes it was
Your best? Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and fuck the prom queen! -Sean Connery
"Why not us?"- Tony Sparano
by Kdog92 on Sep 19, 2009 8:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
4th key
The fans must be loud and in the stands, none of this faireatherfan bullshit.
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by Patssuck456 on Sep 18, 2009 8:19 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
*fairweather
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by Patssuck456 on Sep 18, 2009 8:19 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Protect the football
Most of what we needed to win happened last Sunday, didn’t it?
Take care of the little things, and the big things will take care of themselves.
by SunDolphin on Sep 18, 2009 9:13 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
QB & WR Must Make Plays
Frenney and Mathis are going to get pressure on the QB, they do every game. Pennington has to be able to avoid the rush and make plays downfield, not 3-4 yards downfield, but 12-15 yds downfield.
The WR’s need to get open quicker. Pennington needs to get the ball to the primary receiver and not have to check down. To do that, the primary WR needs to get open quickly.
The OL needs to give Pennington an extra second or two to go through his progressions. I would like to see Pennington have the time to be able to survey the field from sideline to sideline. A lot of big plays happen on the back side of the route and Pennington needs to get there and not settle for the check down.
by ct1361 on Sep 18, 2009 9:44 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i think we should run more crossing routes
it should help Pennington
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by DolfanfromNC on Sep 18, 2009 9:46 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Get them on their heels immediately.
Tennessee has done a great job of keeping Indy on their heels the last few times they’ve played. Jeff Fisher has done everything from kicking the opening kickoff as an onside kick, to running a fake punt on the first 4th down, to a flea flicker on the first offensive play of the game….
I think we should line PW up in the slot for the first 2 plays….first play run a Wild-Cat passing play, and the 2nd play, running a go route with Ginn (with PW in the slot).
Then settle down and run the ball right at them.
by Fr8Train on Sep 18, 2009 11:09 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
(comment e-mailed to Jim Caldwell)
It's not just your perceptions that can be wrong. Even your memory is often incomplete or possibly flat out wrong.
by shake n bake on Sep 18, 2009 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We have little to no chance in this game...
At this point, I am only hoping for a good show.
Tracking the Fins from Rio de Janeiro, the "Cidade Maravilhosa"
by FinsFromBrazil on Sep 18, 2009 11:13 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
wow
have SOME faith
2009 is a year of respect ladies and gentlemen. Lets get it.
"i think we have to look at it through his shoes" tuscanitunr talkin about brett farve.
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by MrMedic on Sep 18, 2009 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Satisfaction = Reality - Expectation...
… therefore… keep expectations low…
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by FinsFromBrazil on Sep 18, 2009 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
c'mon brazil
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by samdaman on Sep 18, 2009 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah... I know...
Just have a bad feeling about this one…
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by FinsFromBrazil on Sep 19, 2009 7:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
allright, watever
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No hating on Jay Fiedler, please.
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by samdaman on Sep 19, 2009 7:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You continue to be my friend, right? Amigo?
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by FinsFromBrazil on Sep 19, 2009 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
RUFKM?
We have owned the Colts for years!
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 18, 2009 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
not to mention the chargers
weeks 2 and 3 are extremely winnable for us. what is our record against the chargers over the past few years?? i cant remember off hand but i know its very good.
2009 is a year of respect ladies and gentlemen. Lets get it.
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by MrMedic on Sep 18, 2009 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and we follow up on week 4 with the bills
last years bills started out 5-0. I fully expect them to fade early AGAIN. lets hope by week 4 the wind is coming out of their sails. 4-1 by week 5!!!
2009 is a year of respect ladies and gentlemen. Lets get it.
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by MrMedic on Sep 18, 2009 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
huh
They haven’t played since 2006 (Colts win) and 2003 before that (Colts win)
It's not just your perceptions that can be wrong. Even your memory is often incomplete or possibly flat out wrong.
by shake n bake on Sep 18, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even your memory is often incomplete or possibly flat out wrong.
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 18, 2009 7:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
nice, in the spirt of my own sig I checked again.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/200612310clt.htm
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/200311020mia.htm
It's not just your perceptions that can be wrong. Even your memory is often incomplete or possibly flat out wrong.
by shake n bake on Sep 18, 2009 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that'll happen when you really accept you could be wrong about stuff.
It's not just your perceptions that can be wrong. Even your memory is often incomplete or possibly flat out wrong.
by shake n bake on Sep 18, 2009 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i can accept it.
when it happens, i will be the first to admit it
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 18, 2009 7:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dolphin-Colts Series Record
SERIES RECORD — Dolphins lead 46-23.
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 18, 2009 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
in most cultures,
that would be considered pwnage.
;-)
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 18, 2009 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
very few would consider it recent.
Phins last win over Indy was in 2002. Anyone care to count up the number of players still around from each roster?
It's not just your perceptions that can be wrong. Even your memory is often incomplete or possibly flat out wrong.
by shake n bake on Sep 18, 2009 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ricky Williams, Jason Taylor, Peyton Manning, and Reggie Wayne
by luvs2drnk on Sep 18, 2009 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
on the Colts side it's
Peyton, Reggie, Center Jeff Saturday, Tackle (guard at the time) Ryan Diem, rookie Dwight Freeney, DE/DT Raheem Brock and longsnapper Justin Snow.
It's not just your perceptions that can be wrong. Even your memory is often incomplete or possibly flat out wrong.
by shake n bake on Sep 18, 2009 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I figured I might have missed some lineman or rookies
by luvs2drnk on Sep 18, 2009 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
how could you miss Justin Snow??????
It's not just your perceptions that can be wrong. Even your memory is often incomplete or possibly flat out wrong.
by shake n bake on Sep 18, 2009 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only one I missed I shouldn't have was Saturday.
I didn’t know Freeney, because he didn’t make a name for himself until a couple years ago.
by luvs2drnk on Sep 18, 2009 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
umm
Freeney had 13 sacks that year
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/F/FreeDw00.htm
It's not just your perceptions that can be wrong. Even your memory is often incomplete or possibly flat out wrong.
by shake n bake on Sep 18, 2009 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But I think it wasn't until after 04
That he became a household name that everyone knew.
by luvs2drnk on Sep 18, 2009 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
leading the league in sacks will do that.
It's not just your perceptions that can be wrong. Even your memory is often incomplete or possibly flat out wrong.
by shake n bake on Sep 18, 2009 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But that's also when teams started game planning for him
And his stats suffered as well. But he seems to have rebounded from the injury and posted good stats last year.
by luvs2drnk on Sep 20, 2009 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
teams really did
it was funny, for a while Freeney’s sacks came exactly when you wouldn’t expect it if you didn’t know how most teams played him. He’d be relatively quiet against teams without top LTs (because teams would devote the left guard or a TE and RB to helping the LT) and then would go off against top LTs (because teams wouldn’t give help). Jonathan Ogden was the best example. Freeney always ate him up. Ogden was so big and tall he had trouble with a short shirt guy with such a great burst and set of moves.
It's not just your perceptions that can be wrong. Even your memory is often incomplete or possibly flat out wrong.
by shake n bake on Sep 20, 2009 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so I said:
We have owned the Colts for years!
And you are disputing that statement by saying that the Colts are 2-1 over the Fins in the last 3 games…..?
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 18, 2009 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm saying it doesn't mean anything to this game
since the rosters have totally turned over since the Dolphins dominated.
It's not just your perceptions that can be wrong. Even your memory is often incomplete or possibly flat out wrong.
by shake n bake on Sep 18, 2009 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How bout this?
Manning has won exactly two-thirds of his games, but against Miami he’s only 4-7 with 18 interceptions and just 16 touchdown passes.
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 18, 2009 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
4-5 with 14 TDs to 13 INTs when you exclude his 1st and 9th NFL start
Peyton’s rookie year was terrible.
Peyton didn’t really become Peyton until 2003 or 2004
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/M/MannPe00.htm
His numbers take off from good to absurd at that point.
It's not just your perceptions that can be wrong. Even your memory is often incomplete or possibly flat out wrong.
by shake n bake on Sep 18, 2009 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
plus the majority of Colts-Dolphins games were 1998-2001
when Peyton, his coach and his supporting cast weren’t nearly as good as 2002 on.
It's not just your perceptions that can be wrong. Even your memory is often incomplete or possibly flat out wrong.
by shake n bake on Sep 18, 2009 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You forgot to mention.
The Dolphins D being ranked no lower than 6th in the leaugue during that time.
by luvs2drnk on Sep 18, 2009 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't buy that.
The guy was averaging 63%, 4000 yds, and 25 TDs from 99-02. The guy has always been good, even his rookie year wasn’t terrible. Sure he threw 28 INTs. But 56%, 3700 yds, and 26 TDs are damn good for a rookie.
by luvs2drnk on Sep 18, 2009 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I said 99-02 was good
then 03-08 was absurdly good.
His rookie year was good for a rookie (also if you look at the gamelogs there’s a real clear improvement through the year. Which is what makes the two Phins games I pulled being his 1st and 9th important.
It's not just your perceptions that can be wrong. Even your memory is often incomplete or possibly flat out wrong.
by shake n bake on Sep 18, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it was good for a rookie, but it sticks out like a sore thumb against his other years
which is why I don’t think lumping it in gives a good picture for anything going forward.
It's not just your perceptions that can be wrong. Even your memory is often incomplete or possibly flat out wrong.
by shake n bake on Sep 18, 2009 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good for a rookie?
That’s better stats then most veterans. Hell, it’s probably one of the best rookie years for a QB ever, and he didn’t even have a breaking in year.
by luvs2drnk on Sep 18, 2009 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
not really
28 INTs is in the top 15 single season INTs.
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/leaders/pass_int_single_season.htm
71.2 QB rating, ANY/A under 5
that would put him 31st in QB Rating last year. Behind Dan Orlosky, just ahead of Ryan Fitzpatrick. and he’d be 29th in ANY/A.
It was more than you could expect from a rookie thrown to the wolves on a team that went 3-13 the year before, but it was not a good season, compared to Peyton’s or even the rest of the leagues’ standerd
It's not just your perceptions that can be wrong. Even your memory is often incomplete or possibly flat out wrong.
by shake n bake on Sep 18, 2009 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
look, i'm just saying
maybe Peyton gets all freaked out when he sees JT over there and gets happy feet? I dunno… maybe it is just more like a jinx of something?
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 18, 2009 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know it's blasphamy to defend a Colts fan.
But in Peyton’s defense, his first couple of years in the league he was in the AFC East and we had a really good defense. His record while in the AFC East…..2-5 against us.
by luvs2drnk on Sep 18, 2009 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i know a smoke screen when i see one
this has nothing to do with defending a colts fan. You just want to argue with me… you just can’t help yourself.
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 18, 2009 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok, you got me.
But it is a good point. From 98-01 our defense was never lower than 6th in the league.
by luvs2drnk on Sep 18, 2009 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He hasn't lost to the Phins since he hit his peak in 2003-2004
You need something better than struggles 6 to 11 years ago to make a case for the Phins having any kind of advantage over Peyton now.
It's not just your perceptions that can be wrong. Even your memory is often incomplete or possibly flat out wrong.
by shake n bake on Sep 18, 2009 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here's one.
The fact that those struggles were 6 to 11 years ago. Peyton is 33, and his QB rating has decreased every year since 2004. He’s no spring chicken anymore.
by luvs2drnk on Sep 18, 2009 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes, he's declined to the point where he can only win the league MVP
on one knee without any TC or preseason.
It's not just your perceptions that can be wrong. Even your memory is often incomplete or possibly flat out wrong.
by shake n bake on Sep 18, 2009 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't say he still wasn't good.
He’s just getting a little more fragile as the years tick by.
by luvs2drnk on Sep 18, 2009 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
his plays missed due to injury
has been stuck at one for quite a few years now.
It's not just your perceptions that can be wrong. Even your memory is often incomplete or possibly flat out wrong.
by shake n bake on Sep 18, 2009 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He also never used to need a knee brace
by luvs2drnk on Sep 20, 2009 12:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
is he even wearing one this year?
It's not just your perceptions that can be wrong. Even your memory is often incomplete or possibly flat out wrong.
by shake n bake on Sep 20, 2009 1:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just thinking about the atlanta game...
Keep the QB upright – that means you Carey & Jake
Run the ball effectively – it not only keeps us in control but keeps Manning & co off the field.
Limit the big plays on defense
by Natalya on Sep 18, 2009 11:27 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes yes and yes
It still boils down to the basics.
by firedanhenningnow on Sep 18, 2009 11:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Run the ball effectively - that means you, Grove, Smiley & Thomas
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 18, 2009 12:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You forgot Dan Henning....
If he doesn’t call a run, there’s not much you can do.
by luvs2drnk on Sep 18, 2009 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's exacly why I feel slightly confident
last game the team made silly mistakes, forgot the basics. but it’s not that hard to fix our flaws — we are talking about football fundamentals. all our players know how to do the job and we do have a good roster. things are supposed to get better…
by Rennie85 on Sep 18, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i was just trying to read the
grass is not always greener post, holy crap like 700 comments, and it was the dang henne/penne debate. i cant take it anymore.
2009 is a year of respect ladies and gentlemen. Lets get it.
"i think we have to look at it through his shoes" tuscanitunr talkin about brett farve.
13 1/2 phinsider fued points!!!
by MrMedic on Sep 18, 2009 12:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Funny how Matty says he tries to avoid that debate....
Then makes a post about it.
by luvs2drnk on Sep 18, 2009 12:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
someones
gotta stir the pot. and usually when matty does, he acknowledges it
2009 is a year of respect ladies and gentlemen. Lets get it.
"i think we have to look at it through his shoes" tuscanitunr talkin about brett farve.
13 1/2 phinsider fued points!!!
by MrMedic on Sep 18, 2009 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
indeed
stirring the pot and upping the comments lol
thats how i roll
by Matty I on Sep 18, 2009 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
but that probably will be my last post about the debate for a good while
by Matty I on Sep 18, 2009 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't kid yourself
We’ll turn every post into that debate eventually
by luvs2drnk on Sep 18, 2009 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
... or go off on a tangent... lol
Like this post started on cue…. then quickly went off to college football… I love it….
… but then comes back on topic and it’s fabulous…
Everyone feels comfortable, and there’s sooo much similarities in our maxims…
This is a great place..!!
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"Everybody wants a hero, but they're not willing to wait for one"
by Alpha6 on Sep 18, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
On a side note....
Why do some posts keep disappearing?
by luvs2drnk on Sep 18, 2009 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, whole posts.
Like the one FDH had about the Abraham sack. It’s gone. Same thing awhile back when someone posted about the Oregon player decking the Boise St player. Do you delete them? If so, for what reasons?
by luvs2drnk on Sep 18, 2009 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
because we like to keep it clean around here
he deletes the ones no one wants to read. every week we email him the list.
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 18, 2009 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought the Abraham sack was pretty interesting.
Especially with the quotes from Smiley, that didn’t make sense. Saying it was shotgun, except it wasn’t. The other one I can understand. We email him a list? Is there some kind of committee, that votes posts off the Phinsider Island?
by luvs2drnk on Sep 18, 2009 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
actually, that's an interesting way to put it
RZ, Alpha, and Nicky kinda run things… we just email them.
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 18, 2009 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does that make Matty just a figurehead?
I thought he was the one runnin the show here.
by luvs2drnk on Sep 18, 2009 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm not really sure.
actually, i’m not really sure he exists.
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 18, 2009 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Until tuesday.
Tracking the Fins from Rio de Janeiro, the "Cidade Maravilhosa"
by FinsFromBrazil on Sep 18, 2009 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think 700+ comments
will suffice. lol. no matter how many times we see it, it always blows up.
2009 is a year of respect ladies and gentlemen. Lets get it.
"i think we have to look at it through his shoes" tuscanitunr talkin about brett farve.
13 1/2 phinsider fued points!!!
by MrMedic on Sep 18, 2009 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the debate is old and annoying
Self-proclaimed president of the Pat White and Brian Hartline fan club.
No hating on Jay Fiedler, please.
Official Back-Up Phinsider LOL'er.
by samdaman on Sep 18, 2009 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and you are young and annoying
what’s your point?
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 18, 2009 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good post Matty
I completely agree with all your points. I know it may come as a shock to some (LCFF), but it happens occassionally.
by luvs2drnk on Sep 18, 2009 12:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey, someone hijacked L2Ds account!!!!
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 18, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I want to see more of THIS

-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 18, 2009 12:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I've always wondered about that...
Why is there no offensive penalty for stiff arms to the defenders facemask? It’s obviously a clear advantage for the runner, as number 24 there could probably tell you.
by luvs2drnk on Sep 18, 2009 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
there IS if you hook your fingers in there
you can push but you can’t grab
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 18, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
didn't know that...
it must be tough call for the refs, specially if you consider that the call should be made while two guys are running/flying in front of you.
by Rennie85 on Sep 18, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
they look for the runner to turn the defender's head.
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 18, 2009 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
such as above pic?
or that’s not a proper head turn?
by Rennie85 on Sep 18, 2009 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Uh?
You want Ricky to wear some fake dreads? Afraid that was hair today gone tomorrow! JK. The best stiff-arm that I have ever seen was Ricky running to the edge agains the bears that year on MNF….R.W. McQuarters had the angle and everything and Ricky just got to the corner and turned to go up the sideline….RW gets stiff-armed and slammed down into the grass, Ricky should have been knocked right out of bounds and he turned it into a score if I remember correctly. Can I get an AMEN on that one??
Official Leader of the "Bring Back Zach Thomas!!" Foundation
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by Dragon27az on Sep 18, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
exactly
i miss the dreads
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 18, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that turned me on
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No hating on Jay Fiedler, please.
Official Back-Up Phinsider LOL'er.
by samdaman on Sep 18, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh
You aint the only one!!
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by Dragon27az on Sep 18, 2009 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh my............
… you two are sooo fresh…!
Adjutant General, Matty Fan Club
64 "Phinsider Fued" Points..!!
"Everybody wants a hero, but they're not willing to wait for one"
by Alpha6 on Sep 18, 2009 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
now how do we turn you off?
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 18, 2009 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good question....
and when someone figures out the answer my wife might like to know, lol
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On Matty's "Draft Sean Smith Squad" since he declared
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by Dragon27az on Sep 19, 2009 1:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
not possible
u just have to ride it out
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No hating on Jay Fiedler, please.
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by samdaman on Sep 19, 2009 7:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL!!!!!!!!!!
There ya go Dragon…. tell your wife she has to ride the Dragon out… LOL!!!!!!!!!!
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"Everybody wants a hero, but they're not willing to wait for one"
by Alpha6 on Sep 19, 2009 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
Ha! Too funny!!
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by Dragon27az on Sep 19, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ronnie Brown
This article talks about being physical. Brown has the goods to punish the defence, yet he keeps trying to dance his way around the field. If he just ran a bit like Ricky, players would respect him more. I have seen him punish players, but it is rare. Is he saving his body for when he retires?
by joneilthe2 on Sep 18, 2009 12:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ronnie brown rarely punishes defenders?
what games have you been watching. ive seen RB stand up or completely plow over many many defenders. But at the same time, he’s made plenty of dancing/acrobatic moves that resulted in more yards or TD’s.
2009 is a year of respect ladies and gentlemen. Lets get it.
"i think we have to look at it through his shoes" tuscanitunr talkin about brett farve.
13 1/2 phinsider fued points!!!
by MrMedic on Sep 18, 2009 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
?
What game am I watching? What player are you watching. Maybe you don’t know the difference between 23 and 34!
John
by joneilthe2 on Sep 18, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
its a matter of getting him warmed up
once he gets into his grove in a game (15+ carries) the house of pain begins.
2009 is a year of respect ladies and gentlemen. Lets get it.
"i think we have to look at it through his shoes" tuscanitunr talkin about brett farve.
13 1/2 phinsider fued points!!!
by MrMedic on Sep 18, 2009 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
getting tired of seeing espn highlights...
without any Miami representation…like some killer ricky/ronnie runs..we need more exposure..so, Go Phins,Light it up on Monday night..Remember when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?….!!!!!!Go Animal House on their asses…no pun intended,but it works!
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by zero13 on Sep 18, 2009 2:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
the germans bombed pearl harbor?
"Never let the competition know what your thinking"
Feringi rule of acquisition #85
by fansince70 on Sep 18, 2009 2:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
the germans bombed pearl harbor
I thought Iran bombed Pearl Harbor….;0
John
by joneilthe2 on Sep 18, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Animal House reference....Bluto rocks!!
by luvs2drnk on Sep 18, 2009 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wooohoooo!
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No hating on Jay Fiedler, please.
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by samdaman on Sep 18, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
forget it, he's rolling
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 18, 2009 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
greatest movie ever
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No hating on Jay Fiedler, please.
Official Back-Up Phinsider LOL'er.
by samdaman on Sep 18, 2009 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hells yeah
We gotta go all Animal House on Indy, like “mind if we dance wif yo dates?”
by phranchise on Sep 18, 2009 2:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
How 'bout the movie "Deliverance".....
“Now let’s see you drop dem pants”….
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"Everybody wants a hero, but they're not willing to wait for one"
by Alpha6 on Sep 18, 2009 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's just creepy
you been hanging around X?
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 18, 2009 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey all.
I have a question:
Do you think that the field will be filled-in for Monday’s game? After watching Miami kill GT last night, I became concerned with the possiblity for injury (for both teams) when I saw the difference between the dirt and the turf.
Thanks.
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on Sep 18, 2009 2:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm sure they'll groom the field before the game.
We still gotta deal with that infield dirt till the 27th of September though.
by luvs2drnk on Sep 18, 2009 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, i think he was asking about the infield
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 18, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, sorry I wasn't more specific.
btw, its she. ;-)
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on Sep 18, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, i'm glad you told me
so i didn’t rip you too hard over your handle.
;-)
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 18, 2009 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And I addressed both, mister smarty pants
by luvs2drnk on Sep 18, 2009 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i was affirming your response
not correcting it.
-LCFF
by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 18, 2009 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nope....
It never is….stupid Marlins, I HATE THEM WITH A PASSION!! Well, almost as much as I do John Beck anywayz. Does anyone else remember Olindo kicking off the dirt when those ref hat-cameras just came out, and Olindo miss hit it off the dirt and tagged the ref straight in the head?? I was laughing so hard that beer shot out of my nose, it was such a waste of good beer. Then they show the replay in slow-motion of it from the refs point of view….needless the say the rest of that beer was wasted when they did that. I bet my buddies carpet is still jacked up.
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by Dragon27az on Sep 18, 2009 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bummer.
Well, thanks alot for the response and here’s hoping for NO INJURIES for either team!
"I throw, you catch. It's NOT that hard!"
Peyton Manning, SNL, 2007
by peytonsthebest on Sep 18, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's usually not a big injury concern.
It’s the kicking game that gets affected the most.
by luvs2drnk on Sep 18, 2009 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Field and the clay
Soon it will be gone along with the Marlins. :) Not soon enough though
John
by joneilthe2 on Sep 18, 2009 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know what I just want a win to quiet our critics......
Fin fan till the end no doubt.........................
by DolfanfromNC on Sep 18, 2009 5:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i was worried about the atlanta game
but, for some reason i’m not worried about the colts. i think we win without a whole lot of fight from them.
by ncfinfan on Sep 18, 2009 5:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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