Dolphins Depth Chart Bubble Watch, V. 6

by Matty I on Sep 1, 2009 12:15 AM EDT in News Comment 126 comments

We're now less than one week away from the final round of cuts that will finalize, for the time being, the Dolphins' 53-man roster. That means a number of those "roster bubble players" have less than a week and just one preseason game to prove they belong on the roster come next week. Therefore, it's time to update the "bubble watch" for the final time this preseason.

While in past versions I've made it a point to talk about how this exercise wasn't a prediction of the 53-man roster, but rather a snapshot of just how the roster might look if cuts were to be made right now, this version is as close to a prediction as you can get. I plan on doing a predictions post following the final preseason game. But I'm not sure anything will even change between this version and my final predictions.

Below is the depth chart. Be sure to leave your thoughts on this as well...

	1st Team	2nd Team	3rd Team
QB	Chad Pennington	Chad Henne	Pat White
RB	Ronnie Brown	Ricky Williams	Patrick Cobbs/Lex Hilliard
FB	Lousaka Polite
WR	Ted Ginn	Greg Camarillo
WR	Brian Hartline	Davone Bess	Patrick Turner
TE	Anthony Fasano	David Martin	John Nalbone
LT	Jake Long	Andrew Gardner
LG	Justin Smiley	Brandon Frye
C	Jake Grove	Joe Berger
RG	Donald Thomas	Shawn Murphy
RT	Vernon Carey
	1st Team	2nd Team	3rd Team
DE	Kendall Langford	Tony McDaniel
NT	Jason Ferguson	Paul Soliai
DE	Randy Starks	Phillip Merling	Lionel Dotson
SOLB	Jason Taylor	Quentin Moses	Erik Walden
ILB	Channing Crowder	Reggie Torbor
ILB	Akin Ayodele
WOLB	Joey Porter	Cameron Wake	Charlie Anderson
CB	Will Allen	Vontae Davis	Jason Allen
CB	Sean Smith	Nathan Jones
S	Yeremiah Bell	Chris Clemons
S	Gibril Wilson	Tyrone Culver
	1st Team	2nd Team	3rd Team
K	Dan Carpenter
P	Brandon Fields
LS	John Denney

PUP: Matt Roth
Last 5 On: Lex Hilliard, Andrew Gardner, John Nalbone, Erik Walden, Charlie Anderson
First 5 Off: Brandon London, Nate Garner, William Kershaw, Courtney Bryan, Joey Haynos
Next 5 Off: Joey Thomas, J.D. Folsom, Rod Wright, James Robinson, Ryan Baker

Some thoughts:

At this point, I don't see any way Matt Roth starts the season on the active roster. He seems destined for the PUP, which will keep him out for the first six weeks. Depending on his progress, he could then be placed on Injured Reserve, ending his season.
Truth be told, I'm fairly confident in the above chart. The only real decision I went back and forth on was the battle between Lex Hilliard and Brandon London. I don't think Hilliard would sneak through waivers, either, to make it onto Miami's practice squad. And even if he did, he could be poached at any time (a la Jalen Parmele last season). I think that there's no way both make the team and that this final week will play a major role in which one sticks and which one doesn't. I'm leaning towards Hilliard right now, but that could easily change between now and the conclusion of Thursday night's preseason finale.
While you all know by now that I'm squarely on the John Nalbone bandwagon, I'm not 100% confident he beats out Joey Haynos. But I've been very impressed with Nalbone's blocking ability. However, he is certainly a practice squad candidate.
J.D. Folsom had shown enough to be practice squad worthy - at least in my book. One year of practice and training could really go a long way towards Folsom becoming a capable reserve inside linebacker and solid special teams contributor.

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firstttttttt

and sucks to see b london in the “off” team category, an I hope to have hi stick around, but it looks lke its gonna be his last stand here in miami. DAMN!

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by el presidente 00 on Sep 1, 2009 12:28 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

yea

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by samdaman on Sep 1, 2009 7:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

peezy! couldnt agree with you more dude

Though think of it this way who is better on special teams

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by jojo phin fan on Sep 1, 2009 12:46 AM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs

london on special teams could be what keeps him around

by el presidente 00 on Sep 1, 2009 1:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i hate to bust anyone's bubbles

but london’s staying and hilliard goes bye bye

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by samdaman on Sep 1, 2009 7:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Cobbs > ALL on ST

When it comes to special teams, dude a monster

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by BSerious72 on Sep 1, 2009 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

um u need more than one ST player

and cobbs was never even close 2 being cut

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by Davone_Is_BessT on Sep 1, 2009 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i know

i was just reiterating that cobbs is a beast on ST lol

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by BSerious72 on Sep 1, 2009 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

o lol good point then

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by Davone_Is_BessT on Sep 1, 2009 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Thoughts

I believe your 4 point below are the only decision’s left for the 53 man roster. Right now I’m thinking London over Lex and Nalbone over Haynos. I still don’t like Lex because he hasn’t proven he can hang onto the ball. But, the decision will come down to who’s better special team player so that may not matter. It will suck to lose Haynos because of his size but he hasn’t been able to set himself apart. That’s why I give Nalbone the nod.
I really think J.D. Folsom can become something special because he kept the plays in front of him. It looked like he could really read an offense because it seemed like he was always around the ball. He should have two int’s but he second guessed and decided to keep the play in front of him instead of jump the route. I really hope he doesn’t get poached.

by 54 on Sep 1, 2009 1:03 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

i like folsom

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by samdaman on Sep 1, 2009 7:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Folsom might be ok after they re-configure his body

or whatever they hell they do!!

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by woomar on Sep 1, 2009 1:16 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I like v6 alot

But I bet I’m not alone in wishing we had picked up Tory Holt or some other veteran WR, some one to help the young guys. I’m ready to go though……………

by Wolfpack2009 on Sep 1, 2009 8:40 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Brandon Marshall should be available soon.

Armchair QB's always complete the pass and armchair coaches always pick the right players.

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by Tunaflipper on Sep 1, 2009 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

pleeeaseee no

i cant stand marshall…too much baggage, and two many young players to inflict his cancer upon. leave the woman beater in denver or someplace else…

by DRINKtheGINN on Sep 1, 2009 8:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

yea, not a fan of marshall

didn’t he get in a fight with Peezy?

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by samdaman on Sep 1, 2009 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'll take him in a heartbeart.... If he's released.

Baggage or not, Marshall makes are team better. Maybe even a title contender. But I wouldn’t want to trade for him. I would shy away from giving up a high draft pick.

by JP 23 on Sep 1, 2009 9:35 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

marshall is a disaster

everyone jumps on vick for his mistake but look at this guys rap sheet…he cant stay out of trouble in denver and you think he’ll shape up in south beach?? lol. if you take a guy like that you send a awful message to the younger talent which in our case is 85 percent of the team. hes not going to be released either so it would have to be a trade.

by DRINKtheGINN on Sep 1, 2009 9:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Marshall is tooooooo much CAP

by Phin king on Sep 1, 2009 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I agree, that's why I said I'll take him in a heartbeat IF (and that's a big IF) he's released.

I wouldn’t trade for him either….

by JP 23 on Sep 1, 2009 10:27 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

i like BMarsh

but i don’t see him ever joining the Fins. There’s 30 other teams that would give more to sign him and I don’t see Parcells giving away everything to sign him.

As long as he’s not a Pat or Jet I’m fine with it.

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by BSerious72 on Sep 1, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

lex/london

truth be told i like london more as a player right now…but we have alot of young WR’s locked up for some time and with ricky retiring,ronnie possibly not coming back(hope he does) i think miami has no choice but to keep lex and not risk losing him… big big backs that can run like he does has more value to miami in the long run…we’ll see though. as for nalbone haynos hope john makes the team, i live down the road from monmouth college and he was a tough player here and i hear he works hard so best of luck to him.

by DRINKtheGINN on Sep 1, 2009 8:52 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

when in doubt

you keep a solid RB. you cant have too many good ball carriers in this league.

by dlux2561 on Sep 1, 2009 9:11 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

But four deep?

Hilliard would really only get a chance if Cobbs was to go down. Even then, minimal carries. I say when in doubt, keep the guy who brings the most to the table. In this case its London for being a WR and his work in special teams

by el presidente 00 on Sep 1, 2009 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i know what you mean

but theres a better chance of london passing through waivers then hilliard…240 pound backs that run like him are a big asset especially when next year you could be down two running backs. look at miamis receivers age and contracts right now. i love a special teamer that can contribute lke london and i really dont want him to go but hilliard is a bull who will not clear waivers.

by DRINKtheGINN on Sep 1, 2009 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Sparano himself has said Lex has been contributing on ST.

Sure he won’t get many carries this year without injuries, but with Ricky and Ronnie’s Dolphin futures in doubt it makes more sense to keep a good potential replacement. Whereas in the WR department, we have more stable depth with 5 young guys who I believe are all under contract for at least another year.

by luvs2drnk on Sep 1, 2009 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Can McDaniel play NT?

I hope so cause I’ve liked what I’ve seen from him and if Jason Ferguson goes down (knock on wood) I don’t think Soliai can handle the job by himself.

by JP 23 on Sep 1, 2009 9:18 AM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs

great idea

by Phin king on Sep 1, 2009 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Is it correct to call Tony McDaniel too skinny to play NT or he's not fat enough? Lol

by JP 23 on Sep 1, 2009 10:30 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

Is Lionel Dotson a shoe in?

by JP 23 on Sep 1, 2009 9:19 AM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs

well are d line gets tired fast we need extra guys

by Phin king on Sep 1, 2009 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Walden/London

I know Walden has been very good on ST, but when would he ever see the field otherwise? With 5 OLB’s ahead of him we would have to get killed with injuries at that position for him to play. London on the other hand can play ST and play in games at WR. With only 5 WR’s on the squad running a spread offense, with an injury, we are short. We know about GC’s leg and Ginn is a strong breeze away from getting hurt. As unsure as I am about our not so special ST, having London contribute on both ST and offense may make him a better choice as well as more needed injury insurance.

by Dolphriend on Sep 1, 2009 9:27 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

LongSmileyGroveThomasCarey

The FinFabFive.

Can’t help but to have high hopes that these guys gel and get lanes open for the Express.

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by Tunaflipper on Sep 1, 2009 9:27 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

lol finfanbfave nice

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by samdaman on Sep 1, 2009 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

ummm no

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by Patssuck456 on Sep 1, 2009 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Just a thought...

If pennington doesn’t re-sign to back up henne next year…would you pull the trigger on tavaris jackson to back henne up? you could run the wildcat off an audible right at the line and really screw a defense up and since princess brett showed up he has been playing lights out in pre season…its nothing special but i think he could be worth a shot since we dont know what henne or white will be yet

by DRINKtheGINN on Sep 1, 2009 9:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Ummm isnt his why we got Wild Pat???

by Phin king on Sep 1, 2009 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

yessss

but “wild pat” would be subbed in and the defense would know wildcat before the huddle even breaks…plus i said a back up QB…meaning a guy i know can take snaps from center right now if needed. i dont know what white can or cannot do….i just figured to have a viable backup if pennington left that could do both couldnt hurt….and can we wait before we give it this wild pat nickname being we have no idea how hes going to look come crunch time.

by DRINKtheGINN on Sep 1, 2009 10:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i do hope white does well though,,,he looks like a hard hard worker

by DRINKtheGINN on Sep 1, 2009 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

yup

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by samdaman on Sep 1, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

pennington will be next year's starter

by metalhead86 on Sep 1, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think we got White to be the back up for Henne.

I don’t think the trifecta would spend a 2nd rounder on a guy just so he can run the wildcat and that’s it. They took Pat White to be the back up for Henne and as another option as QB of the future should Henne not pan out….

Tavaris Jackson chances of landing in Miami next season = 0.0%

I’m pretty positive the Fins will draft yet another QB in next years draft (in the later rounds).

by JP 23 on Sep 1, 2009 10:37 AM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs

Agreed 100%

by Jevant on Sep 1, 2009 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Trade up for Tim Tebow??????

What do you guys think, to much. You can almost guarantee he’ll excell in the NFL. Trade Pat White or Henne while there value is still there.

by D0lphins4Life on Sep 1, 2009 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

If Tebow does fall to the 3rd round like Mel Kiper says he will....

I’d take him.

Having 3 good QB’s is always a positive. And if one of them should step up and take the starting job, we can always trade one of the other 2 similar to what Atlanta did with Schaub. They got a 2nd rounder for him from the Texans….

by JP 23 on Sep 1, 2009 12:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

not a chance

Tebow is a first rounder

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by Little Nicky 21 on Sep 1, 2009 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

tebow isn't going until at least round 5

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by samdaman on Sep 1, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

you're on drugs

he’s a guaranteed first rounder. I’ll be SHOCKED if he lasts past wherever NE picks, and I’ll be SHOCKED if whatever team Jon Gruden is coaching doesn’t take him in round 1. Bank on Tebow in the first

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by Little Nicky 21 on Sep 1, 2009 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

As much as it pains me to agree, he's probably right.

But he’s going to have to learn how to throw the ball before a team lets him become their QB.

by luvs2drnk on Sep 1, 2009 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

ew..

Laces out!

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by BSerious72 on Sep 1, 2009 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Tebow will not be a QB in the NFL

at least, not a full-time QB

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by Matty I on Sep 1, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

yea, i say fb

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by samdaman on Sep 1, 2009 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

hes gonna be an entire team himself

by el presidente 00 on Sep 1, 2009 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

no... that's Rex Ryan.....

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by Alpha6 on Sep 1, 2009 5:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

noo that would be an entire "douche"

on the other hand... hes the team lol

by el presidente 00 on Sep 1, 2009 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

hah

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by samdaman on Sep 2, 2009 7:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

haha

missed an A

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by samdaman on Sep 2, 2009 7:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

ewww

fat ass

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by samdaman on Sep 2, 2009 7:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Disagree

He’s already a better QB than Pat White. He will start for somebody. The mechanical issues, the “never played under center” that’s all fixable. You can’t teach what he has. Mark it down, he’ll be starting for somebody come fall of 09

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by Little Nicky 21 on Sep 1, 2009 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

By fall, I'm assuming you mean Nov. - Dec.?

By the time the season for his losing team is over, and they want to give him some game experience.

by luvs2drnk on Sep 1, 2009 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

BOOOOOOOOOO

no one’s better than pat white

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by samdaman on Sep 2, 2009 7:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

starting? naw

but he will go in the 1st rd….and in my nightmares the Pats take him…and he eventually squashed my NFL dreams…like he has my FSU dreams

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by Rzayo24 on Sep 2, 2009 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

cough:wrong:cough

i disagree.

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by Rzayo24 on Sep 2, 2009 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i agree

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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 2, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

You agree that he disagrees?

Or do you agree with what he disagreed about?

by luvs2drnk on Sep 2, 2009 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

yes, that is correct

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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 2, 2009 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

depends how far he falls

In the 1st 2 rounds i wouldnt touch him

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by jojo phin fan on Sep 1, 2009 4:27 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

Then don't worry about him

he won’t last past pick 20

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by Little Nicky 21 on Sep 1, 2009 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

i say round 5

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by samdaman on Sep 2, 2009 7:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

They'll trade the ghost of John Beck to Daniel Snyder for a 2nd round pick

And use it to pick another 2nd round QB

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by DolphDallas on Sep 1, 2009 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

it was just throwing a scenario out because i dont like the idea of having henne and white without someone we know can at least play at a decent level for next year. if henne fails or gets hurt theres no guarentee white would be ready and/or cabable to lead this offense. it would be the wrong time to start moving backwards you know.

by DRINKtheGINN on Sep 1, 2009 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

You bring up a good point.

But if Pennington doesn’t re-sign, the Trifecta will search for a proven veteran QB, not a guy like Tavaris Jackson who the only thing he’s proven is that he’s a bust.

Personally, I’m thinking more along the lines of Kerry Collins….

But this is all ofcourse IF Pennington doesn’t re-sign with the Fins. I sure hope he does.

by JP 23 on Sep 1, 2009 12:16 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

Trade Idea: David Martin and Greg Camarillo to KC for their 5th Rounder

They just lost WR Devard Darling to injury and they have Brad Cottam and Sean Ryan (remember him?) as their top two TEs (they also just lost another TE to injury).

Then Lex Hilliard, Joey Haynos, AND Brandon London ALL make the team.

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by DolphDallas on Sep 1, 2009 11:54 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

I would want at the least a 4th rounder for those 2 combined.

by JP 23 on Sep 1, 2009 12:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

Trade Scenario:

by JP 23 on Sep 1, 2009 12:04 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs

Camerillo, Next years 1st rounder, and a 5th rounder for Michael Crabtree.

Thoughts?

by JP 23 on Sep 1, 2009 12:06 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs

i like the idea...

but i dont think it would happen…this guy wants insane money it would hurt us cap wise.

by DRINKtheGINN on Sep 1, 2009 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

on a side note to that...

you think this fool will really hold out all season?? lol

by DRINKtheGINN on Sep 1, 2009 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think his stock has already fallen, making the statement that he's trying to make already says enough about his character but, this is still the nfl. so anything is possible, look how Ely has driven the price of football salaries thorough the roof

by D0lphins4Life on Sep 1, 2009 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

And yes I do think he'll hold out all year if he doesn't get what he wants.

Which I think would be a mistake. He’ll end up losing even more money cause he WON’T be a top 10 pick next year.

by JP 23 on Sep 1, 2009 12:20 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

If Crabtree holds out all year (I think he will) and re-enters the draft next year, no one will pick him!

He will want insane money no matter where he would be picked and no one will want to waste a pick. I think he doesn’t get into NFL until 2011 and then for a very low guaranteed contract with some very fat incentives. With the Raiders!

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by PhinsTifosi on Sep 2, 2009 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

We have more cap room than anyone else in the league.

And he’s worth the money.

by JP 23 on Sep 1, 2009 12:18 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

Are they eventually going to enforce a cap on what these unproven rookies make on draft day

It’s ridiculious to throw all this money to these young unproven guys. To bring them in making more than proven veterans are making I think is just freaking nuts.

by D0lphins4Life on Sep 1, 2009 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

can't happen

the deadline to trade unsigned rookies has passed

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by Matty I on Sep 1, 2009 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

they could sign and trade if Crabtree agrees.

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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 1, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

but i don't think anything weird like that is gonna happen.

i think we could trade Cammy, but that’s about it.

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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 1, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

dont expect any trades

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by samdaman on Sep 1, 2009 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

can't do sign and trades

with bonus money because it all comes due this year now… IIRC.

Chad Pennington - The Lame Ducker aka the progress stopper.

So do you think the Jets intentionally did it to set the organization back 3 years or was it just an unintended side effect of their move.

by W NY Fins Fan on Sep 1, 2009 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

no, but they could do it without bonus money and then rework the contract, couldn't they?

(i know this is all a moot point anyway)
=)

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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 2, 2009 1:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think that's the main reason there might be a lockout 2 years from now.

But there definitely should be.

by JP 23 on Sep 1, 2009 12:28 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs

i think London stays and Cammy goes.

This last game is going to be telling. I would expect to see a competition of sorts between Turner and London. I would also expect to see something similar between Bess and Camarillo. And like WNY said in the WR post, everyone at every position is actually competing for that last roster spot. I don’t think they keep 6 at WR, because I think they will want to keep Hilliard, or Moses. But Hilliard might actually be able to make the PS initially, until other teams run into an injury problem at RB.

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by LeftCoastFinFan on Sep 1, 2009 1:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Agreed.

They might PUP List Cammy instead of releasing him.

by ct1361 on Sep 1, 2009 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

they cant put Cam on PUP

if you are on the active roster to begin training camp, you can’t get put on the PUP list.

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by Matty I on Sep 1, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Wasn't Roth on the active list at the beginning of camp? His injury didn't become known until after camp opened.

by ct1361 on Sep 1, 2009 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

no

he was on the non-football injury list after failing his pre-camp physical

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by Matty I on Sep 1, 2009 5:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

my brain hurts

i just want the season to start. all this thinking and analysis is killing me. i just want to sit back and watch football in a drunken stooper.

2009 is a year of respect ladies and gentlemen. Lets get it.

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by MrMedic on Sep 1, 2009 3:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

me 2, medic

i bought a 20 pack of cheap beer for the 1st couple of games

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by samdaman on Sep 1, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

slow drinker

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by PhinsTifosi on Sep 2, 2009 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

lol

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by samdaman on Sep 3, 2009 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ted Ginn

okay im really praying the ginn of week 1 preseason is the ginn of the future. not only because i want to keep my super cool username but, i like the threat he brings to the table. I think it might open things up alot to have him #1 hartline #2 and bess in the slot because is the perfect slot reciever. i think Camarillo might wind up being the odd man out just because hes battling bess for the slot. and i really hope turner pans out. so what you think ginn this season big? yey or ney

by DRINKtheGINN on Sep 1, 2009 3:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

oh and if we had no qb’s next year we could pick up juice williams and i can change my name to GINNandJUICE….sweet = )

by DRINKtheGINN on Sep 1, 2009 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

nice

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by samdaman on Sep 1, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I expect a waiver pick up

I expect the dolphins to pikk up a DT or ILB on the waiver wire, those positions are pretty week IMO I;m not sure what will be available in terms of the DT position but there shud be a bunch of solid ILBs out there for us to pik from.

by Tdot_Fin_fan on Sep 1, 2009 3:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Perfect, Just One Thing

Greg Camarillo is definitely a starter, not a backup!!!

by KingRolfRocks on Sep 1, 2009 4:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

with Hartline starting the past 2 games, I had no choice but to move him up

Not to mention Bess was the game 1 starter a few weeks back. I don’t think Camarillo is 100% yet. If he was, he’d win the starting job easily because he is that good (in my opinion).

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by Matty I on Sep 1, 2009 6:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

lets go troll gang green lol

All this talk is getting me anxious i need to release some stress on some let fans

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by jojo phin fan on Sep 1, 2009 4:31 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs

dam they dont have a mobile site

Can't wait untill Sean Smith puts Randy Moss on his ass lol, Co-Vice President of the official Matty I fan club.

by jojo phin fan on Sep 1, 2009 4:36 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

im with u

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by samdaman on Sep 1, 2009 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

lol its not working on my Phone

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by jojo phin fan on Sep 1, 2009 6:19 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

im jst going strait to the sight

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by samdaman on Sep 2, 2009 7:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Roth quote of the day...

“I’m not concerned,” Roth said. “I wish I could talk about it, but medically I’m not allowed to,” he said. “The situation is this, it’s something medical. I’m not concerned about all the other stuff. I’m just trying to get out there on the field, the sooner the better.”

Medically I’m not allowed to talk about it? What does that even mean?
This situation is just strange.
OTOH, other teams are starting to release guys. I’m expecting the Phins to pick up a few players, don’t be surprised.

by phranchise on Sep 1, 2009 6:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

wtf is wrong with him!?!?!?!?

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by samdaman on Sep 2, 2009 7:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Syphillis affects the brain.....

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by Alpha6 on Sep 2, 2009 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

and we have just diagnoses roth

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by samdaman on Sep 2, 2009 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

diagnosed*

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by samdaman on Sep 2, 2009 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

either that or he had half a sex change operation (just the lower half)

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by PhinsTifosi on Sep 2, 2009 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

You hang out with Tom, Dick and Harry....

… and when they all go home, you still have Dick on your mind….

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by Alpha6 on Sep 2, 2009 8:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

lol

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by samdaman on Sep 3, 2009 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

Is it possible to

hang onto Hilliard long enough to trade and put london on practice squad? Or is it to risky to lose london? If most feel that lex will be in so much demand that he will not make it thru waivers why not try to get something for him. Sounds like a Parcells idea.

by michphishfan on Sep 1, 2009 7:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

Cause as soon as you offer him to another team,

that team already knows you’re planning on putting him on the practice squad. So why give up something, when you can get him for nothing? Whereas I think London has a better chance not being taken on the practice squad, but I don’t know if he can be put on there.

by luvs2drnk on Sep 1, 2009 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

no he can't

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by Matty I on Sep 1, 2009 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

I was working on my latest list

but i’ll wait until friday now….

but couple of points…

i don’t feel strongly but I still think haynos makes it and nalbone goes to the PS… but marting to the browns or cincy for a 5th rounder wouldn’t shock me friday…

Bryan – is going to make the team, ST has been too awful this camp for them not to make the squad.

so i have Walden, bryan, J Allen making the team … Thomas, london, hilliard not although i’m close to saying Anderson has played himself off the team with a poor preseason… and a good one by moses.

dotson – while liked by the staff has to have one of those monster game 4s likel last year or he has to be in the sights so to speak.

Chad Pennington - The Lame Ducker aka the progress stopper.

So do you think the Jets intentionally did it to set the organization back 3 years or was it just an unintended side effect of their move.

by W NY Fins Fan on Sep 1, 2009 10:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs