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Dolphins Training Camp: Open Thread 8/8

Today is a big day for the Dolphins.  It is a double session day.  The first practice is scheduled for 10 am and is not open to the public.  But most likely, there's not going to be too much competition taking place during that first session.

Why?  Because the 2 pm session - that is open to the public - will be a scrimmage that Tony Sparano says will last for between 90 and 115 plays.  He encouraged fans to come out to watch when he announced this scrimmage earlier this week.  The hitting will be live - though it is a "stand up scrimmage."  And it should be an excellent chance to evaluate how the team is shaping up.

As for me, I'm still in "Patriots territory" up here in Massachusetts.  But I'll be back tomorrow and will have full coverage of the weekend's events down in Davie.

As always, use this tread for all of your training camp discussion.  And post links to any and all practice reports you find.

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Morning everyone

Your best? Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and fuck the prom queen! -Sean Connery

by Kdog92 on Aug 8, 2009 9:52 AM EDT reply actions  

Mornin

sup kdog

so pissed the streamer is down for wqam

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by Thallor on Aug 8, 2009 9:55 AM EDT reply actions  

really, i wasn't even going to listen, they never talk about the phins

Your best? Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and fuck the prom queen! -Sean Connery

by Kdog92 on Aug 8, 2009 9:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

Omar was having an interview

Omar was supposed to be doing an interview and they said “live coverage of the scrimmage today”

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by Thallor on Aug 8, 2009 10:02 AM EDT reply actions  

This?

http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_football_dolphins/

Your best? Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and fuck the prom queen! -Sean Connery

by Kdog92 on Aug 8, 2009 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

more LINKage to scrimmage reports

where is everybody?
Palm Beach Post

Abandoned the Draft Sean Smith at #25 Bandwagon to Join the Draft Sean Smith at #61 Bandwagon and get Vontae Davis and a 5th Rounder. Trio > me.

by DolphDallas on Aug 8, 2009 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Here's some quotes I liked about Erik Walden and Cam Wake
- CFL superstar Cameron Wake, a 26-year-old NFL rookie, continued his improvement in recent days, finishing with a sack and applying pressure more than once.

- Linebacker Erik Walden had a nice day, with a sack and a kill shot out in the flat on running back Lex Hilliard.

Abandoned the Draft Sean Smith at #25 Bandwagon to Join the Draft Sean Smith at #61 Bandwagon and get Vontae Davis and a 5th Rounder. Trio > me.

by DolphDallas on Aug 8, 2009 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Even more LINKage

Miami Herald

Quotes I liked:

The players that stood out where Brain Hartline, John Nalbone, Jason Taylor, Joey Porter, Cameron Wake, and Jake Grove.
Davis blamed getting beat on having his eyes in the backfield. “I knew it was coming, but I fell for it anyway,” Davis said.
Anyway Henne completed 6 of 12 attempts with 2 TD and no interceptions.

Pennington was 10 of 20 without a touchdown or interception. Pat White was 10 of 19 with an 8-yard TD pass to Chris Williams over Joey Thomas from 8 yards out. White did not throw an interception.
Ted Ginn Jr. failed to complete his only pass on the flea flicker from the 34 yard line. Henne tossed to Ginn coming around, who scrambled and threw to Ronnie Brown down the right sideline in the end zone. It was a funny scene because that was 340-pound nose tackle Paul Soliai chasing Brown on the pattern down the field. It was surreal because Soliai was actually close enough that he was in the vicinity when the underthrown lobbed pass arrived. The two players went up for the ball and…

Smith, who reminds me of Sean Taylor at times came over, leaped over both players and came down with the interception. Great ball skills by the rookie.

Abandoned the Draft Sean Smith at #25 Bandwagon to Join the Draft Sean Smith at #61 Bandwagon and get Vontae Davis and a 5th Rounder. Trio > me.

by DolphDallas on Aug 8, 2009 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

From Phinfever.com

Report from Rich Rodriguez (probably not the Michigan coach)

Abandoned the Draft Sean Smith at #25 Bandwagon to Join the Draft Sean Smith at #61 Bandwagon and get Vontae Davis and a 5th Rounder. Trio > me.

by DolphDallas on Aug 8, 2009 5:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha good call on that one

-"No excuses, No explanations"
-Pennington is a hand tuxedo
-Matty's new assistant

by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Aug 8, 2009 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

nvm

its workin now

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by Thallor on Aug 8, 2009 10:03 AM EDT reply actions  

listening right now,

Dotson over McDaniel, idk?

Your best? Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and fuck the prom queen! -Sean Connery

by Kdog92 on Aug 8, 2009 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions  

I would pup Martin start haynos with fasano and keep dotson with the xtra spot

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by Thallor on Aug 8, 2009 10:11 AM EDT reply actions  

that's not a bad idea

Your best? Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and fuck the prom queen! -Sean Connery

by Kdog92 on Aug 8, 2009 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

I just don’t think there is much of drop off with haynos plus he has way more upside.

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by Thallor on Aug 8, 2009 10:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

and he's huge!

Your best? Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and fuck the prom queen! -Sean Connery

by Kdog92 on Aug 8, 2009 10:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

Heres one how many LB's do we keep

Big O has us keeping Roth, Walden, Porter, Ayodele, Torbor, Anderson, Taylor, Wake, Crowder… Personally I think this is one or two too many

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by Thallor on Aug 8, 2009 10:33 AM EDT reply actions  

I would drop Anderson and possibly Walden in order to have more roster for other spots.

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by Thallor on Aug 8, 2009 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

anderson and walden?

there goes our entire ST unit basically

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by Davone_Is_BessT on Aug 8, 2009 10:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

meh

Wake can easily fill one of those spots and with Roth’s importance decreasing with JT playing well he can fill the other

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by Thallor on Aug 8, 2009 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

lolol

u cant juz plug in anybody into ST. they have to be good at it. not everyone can play ST.
as soon as we brot walden in our st improved greatly.
ST is really important. u cant juz “meh” it lol

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by Davone_Is_BessT on Aug 8, 2009 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

I completely agree

However with the physical tools that Wake brings I don’t see him not being able to be an upgrade over anderson, plus the Trifecta has already said they won’t keep anyone just to be a special teamer they have to be able to bring something to their position. Which Walden can Possibly do but I do not see it from Anderson. Plus 8 spots tied up for LB’s is a lil much imho.

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by Thallor on Aug 8, 2009 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

didnt anderson have 5 sacks and a safety?

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"I'm trying to right my wrongs, but it's funny these same wrongs helped me write this song."- Kanye West

by Davone_Is_BessT on Aug 8, 2009 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

2.5 sacks 1 saftey

Look at this way though u will be keeping 6 olbs on the roster how are u going to get all those in game reps…Roth, Peezy, Taylor starters then u still have Wake to work then Anderson and Walden so it comes down to Value and Upside which I believe Walden has more of as well as Wake.

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by Thallor on Aug 8, 2009 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

i definately like walden better than anderson

but i was juz tryin to prove the point that anderson is more of a all around player than walden. i dont think walden even took a step onto the field on defense. anderson was a solid backup to porter and played good ST. so if ur going by the all around player thing its anderson. if ur going by potential and ST ace then its walden.

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"Im not a businessman. Ima business...man. Lemme handle my business, man" -Jay Z
"I'm trying to right my wrongs, but it's funny these same wrongs helped me write this song."- Kanye West

by Davone_Is_BessT on Aug 8, 2009 11:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

True

Also look at it this way Walden came in midseason so didn’t have the benefit of last years training camp and probably didn’t see the field much because he was coming over from the Chiefs 4-3 defense. With a full TC I think his stock is drastically improved though I don’t think I would rate him over Wake at this point

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by Thallor on Aug 8, 2009 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

Bess on the radio

True Greatness=Borderline Insanity

by Thallor on Aug 8, 2009 10:38 AM EDT reply actions  

Where is everyone?

radio isn’t working, dang

Your best? Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and fuck the prom queen! -Sean Connery

by Kdog92 on Aug 8, 2009 10:47 AM EDT reply actions  

anyone heard any news on gibril wilson?

hows he doin?

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"I'm trying to right my wrongs, but it's funny these same wrongs helped me write this song."- Kanye West

by Davone_Is_BessT on Aug 8, 2009 10:50 AM EDT reply actions  

From what i’ve read he’s not getting beat but not makin any huge plays either so not bad but not jumping out at any of the bloggers either.

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by Thallor on Aug 8, 2009 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

o thx

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"Im not a businessman. Ima business...man. Lemme handle my business, man" -Jay Z
"I'm trying to right my wrongs, but it's funny these same wrongs helped me write this song."- Kanye West

by Davone_Is_BessT on Aug 8, 2009 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

here's from today:

Gibril Wilson makes a pair of nice plays in the span of about a minute, first making a leaping grab of a Henne deep out to Ginn along the left sideline, but not getting both feet down. Then he breaks up Henne’s attept to Ginn on the same play.

Your best? Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and fuck the prom queen! -Sean Connery

by Kdog92 on Aug 8, 2009 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

well I'm here now

anything at all going on?

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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Aug 8, 2009 11:21 AM EDT reply actions  

Not much

Sun sentinal has a small update on their blog from morning practice…Just playing a waiting game till the scrimmage though for the most part.

True Greatness=Borderline Insanity

by Thallor on Aug 8, 2009 11:23 AM EDT reply actions  

Anyone been to a scrimmage before?

I was going to head back to Orlando today but just read that today is the scrimmage. Is it worth going to these? What is it exactly? Is it a can’t miss? Thanks for the info!

Let this season BE GINN!

by JPenedo on Aug 8, 2009 12:25 PM EDT reply actions  

I would say stay

the scrimmage should be 90 to 110 plays game simulation with coaches off field etc. U should see alot of good stuff there.

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by Thallor on Aug 8, 2009 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

WHATS UP FELLAS

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by dolfinfan34 on Aug 8, 2009 12:31 PM EDT reply actions  

did u ever find out y they ditched me last nite lol?

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"Im not a businessman. Ima business...man. Lemme handle my business, man" -Jay Z
"I'm trying to right my wrongs, but it's funny these same wrongs helped me write this song."- Kanye West

by Davone_Is_BessT on Aug 8, 2009 12:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Acullay everybody left after you came and never returned lol i was alone there

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by dolfinfan34 on Aug 8, 2009 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

LMAO who nailed him

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by dolfinfan34 on Aug 8, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Found it lol
While working on punt block, CB Will Allen came close to joining Roth with an injured groin.

Allen took a punt below the belt and ended up doubled over on the ground. Took him awhile to shake it of

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by dolfinfan34 on Aug 8, 2009 12:42 PM EDT reply actions  

lol wow

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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Aug 8, 2009 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

um ya so did he block it?

lol

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"Im not a businessman. Ima business...man. Lemme handle my business, man" -Jay Z
"I'm trying to right my wrongs, but it's funny these same wrongs helped me write this song."- Kanye West

by Davone_Is_BessT on Aug 8, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

10 minutes.

Tracking the Fins from Rio de Janeiro, the "Cidade Maravilhosa"
Henne not struggling, big arm got bigger, handling 80% of pre-season snaps? Ginn open deep consistently? I see dark clouds approaching...

by FinsFromBrazil on Aug 8, 2009 1:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey guys just got back from my friends wedding, have to go to reception here soon.

So how’s everything going with the Phins.

Your best? Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and fuck the prom queen! -Sean Connery

by Kdog92 on Aug 8, 2009 2:10 PM EDT reply actions  

whats going on guys?

any big news today?

-"No excuses, No explanations"
-Pennington is a hand tuxedo
-Matty's new assistant

by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Aug 8, 2009 2:10 PM EDT reply actions  

haha without matty we are all totally lost lol

SCREW YOU MATTY AND GOING TO WEDDINGS!!!! WE NEED YOU HERE!!!……..

-"No excuses, No explanations"
-Pennington is a hand tuxedo
-Matty's new assistant

by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Aug 8, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Anyone here?

Your best? Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and fuck the prom queen! -Sean Connery

by Kdog92 on Aug 8, 2009 2:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Guess I'll talk to everyone tomorrow, got to head out now

Your best? Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and fuck the prom queen! -Sean Connery

by Kdog92 on Aug 8, 2009 2:22 PM EDT reply actions  

sup everyone!

Damn humidity here in SW Va makes it at around 109 degrees.. Sucks.. I’m bout 30 minutes from Va Tech, bet they are hating practice.
I could deal with the weather in tampa/clearwater area when I stayed there easier than this shit.

So how is everyone?

Head Of Security..
What The Deuce?

by E_Dove on Aug 8, 2009 2:36 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Dam me to there no updates from it yet

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by dolfinfan34 on Aug 8, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Saw Place must be packed at the scrimmage

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by dolfinfan34 on Aug 8, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

hey!

dont’t complain about humidity…it is brutal in miami

-"No excuses, No explanations"
-Pennington is a hand tuxedo
-Matty's new assistant

by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Aug 8, 2009 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Alright guys im out

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by dolfinfan34 on Aug 8, 2009 2:46 PM EDT reply actions  

adios

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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Aug 8, 2009 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

later

-"No excuses, No explanations"
-Pennington is a hand tuxedo
-Matty's new assistant

by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Aug 8, 2009 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

WOW

Just got back from camp and it was simply amazing. I am sure you all have read what was happening but man am I hyped. The place was literally packed, the most I have ever seen in all the years I have come to watch them. Every seat was taken, people were standing on the bottom AND around the gates. EVEN THE GARAGE WAS PACKED WITH PEOPLE WATCHING. Easily 5,000+ there.

The most impressive thing to watch was the offensive line. Ronnie, Ricky, and Cobbs busted through gaping holes the entire practice. The defense was also sick with JT making play after play. He had to be in every single tackle. I AM SO HYPED!

Let this season BE GINN!

by JPenedo on Aug 8, 2009 4:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Mr JP

I personally would like to see your personal thoughts/commentary on what some paid writers wrote in their summaries of the scrimmage.
For example, if a receiver beat a corner/safety for a completion, was it a great move by the receiver or a bad play by the DB?
If a WR made a great catch was it a great play by the WR or a bad throw by the QB?
if the Miami Herald guy said he threw a bad pass, I would be interested in seeing if you agreed, yeah it was way off, or just a little overthrown.
My suggestion, just read one of the journalist’s articles that are linked to here and provide your comments as to “yeah that’s right” on OR “hey he missed something I noticed…”
It is just nice to hear from an eyewitness commenting on the accuracy of subjective opinions boldly stated in a publication.

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by DolphDallas on Aug 8, 2009 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

u think 2 much lol

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"I'm trying to right my wrongs, but it's funny these same wrongs helped me write this song."- Kanye West

by Davone_Is_BessT on Aug 9, 2009 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hey Matty

Take a poppie in some mailboxes for me.

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by Rzayo24 on Aug 8, 2009 4:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Two Quotes I absolutely LOVED from Omar Kelly
() Brian Hartline burned fellow rookie Vontae Davis for a 40-yard catch down the right sideline on the first play of the second series, with Chad Henne at the trigger. After the play, Vontae came up saying, “I knew that was coming!” And Hartline told him he didnt’ care if he knew it or not, he was still going to make the play.

I Like Hartline’s Attitude

() The other rookie corner with a shot to start, Sean Smith, made one of his many leaping, athletic plays on a throwback pass from Ted Ginn. Smith outjumped Ronnie Brown at the goaline to make the pick on a play Smith said he hadn’t seen since the very beginning of rookie OTAs. So if they were testing his brain and his retention skills, consider that test passed.

The more I hear about Sean Smith, the more I like. Vontae makes claims, Sean makes plays.

http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_football_dolphins/

Abandoned the Draft Sean Smith at #25 Bandwagon to Join the Draft Sean Smith at #61 Bandwagon and get Vontae Davis and a 5th Rounder. Trio > me.

by DolphDallas on Aug 8, 2009 5:08 PM EDT reply actions  

thanks for the link

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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Aug 8, 2009 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pretty cool stuff.

I’m liking what I’m hear from Hartline. Even Nalbone seems like he’s coming along and we’re not hearing about drops. Did anyone hear anything about Turner, today?

"If anything goes bad, I did it. If anything goes semi-good, we did it. If anything goes really good you did it. That's all it takes to get people to win football games for you."

Coach Paul Bear Bryant

by AussieKen on Aug 8, 2009 5:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Turner

One of the blogs, i think it was pbp, said they only threw one pass to him all day and it was thrown high by white…

by thatzakkid on Aug 9, 2009 11:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

Good News about Jake Grove
I will say I watched Grove on a couple of plays early on and later on. He more than held his own against Jason Ferguson and he moved Soliai around, which is no easy task. He felt like an upgrade over Samson Satele in this one scrimmage on this one afternoon. We’ll see.

Abandoned the Draft Sean Smith at #25 Bandwagon to Join the Draft Sean Smith at #61 Bandwagon and get Vontae Davis and a 5th Rounder. Trio > me.

by DolphDallas on Aug 8, 2009 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Favorite press quote

From PBP:
Sparano said Thomas is ahead of schedule rehabbing his pectoral injury but needs to catch up on the football end of things.

That said, Sparano said Thomas had a practice repetition Friday "from a physical standpoint I haven’t seen in awhile." Asked if he meant from Thomas, Sparano said he meant from anyone.

How crazy is that?

by phranchise on Aug 10, 2009 8:24 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

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