Dolphins Depth Chart Bubble Watch, V. 2
We are now almost a week into training camp and even though it's still far too early to read into any developments just yet, it's always fun to speculate. So I figured it's time to bust out the second edition of the "depth chart bubble watch."
The idea behind it is simple - to put together a projected 53-man roster and to highlight which players I feel are on pace to just barely make the team and which just miss the cut. And it's important to note that this is not how I predict the roster will look once the preseason comes to a close. Instead, it's simply a snapshot that examines how Miami's 53-man roster might look if the cuts were to be done at this very moment.
The depth chart and some notes can be found below right after the jump...
| 1st Team | 2nd Team | 3rd Team | |
| QB | Chad Pennington | Chad Henne | Pat White |
| RB | Ronnie Brown | Ricky Williams | Patrick Cobbs |
| FB | Lousaka Polite | ||
| WR | Ted Ginn | Patrick Turner | Brandon London |
| WR | Greg Camarillo | Davone Bess | Brian Hartline |
| TE | Anthony Fasano | David Martin | Joey Haynos |
| LT | Jake Long | Andrew Gardner | |
| LG | Justin Smiley | Andy Alleman |
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| C | Jake Grove | Joe Berger | |
| RG | Shawm Murphy |
Ike Ndukwe | Donald Thomas |
| RT | Vernon Carey | ||
| 1st Team | 2nd Team | 3rd Team | |
| DE | Kendall Langford | Randy Starks |
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| NT | Jason Ferguson | Paul Soliai | |
| DE | Phillip Merling | Tony McDaniel | Lionel Dotson |
| SOLB | Jason Taylor |
Matt Roth | Erik Walden |
| ILB | Channing Crowder | ||
| ILB | Akin Ayodele | Reggie Torbor | |
| WOLB | Joey Porter | Cameron Wake |
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| CB | Will Allen | Vontae Davis | Jason Allen |
| CB | Eric Green | Sean Smith | |
| S | Yeremiah Bell | Chris Clemons | |
| S | Gibril Wilson | Tyrone Culver | |
| 1st Team | 2nd Team | 3rd Team | |
| K | Dan Carpenter | ||
| P | Brandon Fields | ||
| LS | John Denney |
Last 5 On: Jason Allen, Erik Walden, Joey Haynos, Brandon London, Andy Alleman
First 5 Off: Charlie Anderson, Nate Jones, Anthony Armstrong, Brandon Frye, Nate Garner
Next 5 Off: Ernest Wilford, William Kershaw, Tearrius George, John Nalbone, Rod Wright
Some notes on this, keeping in mind that this is very preliminary until at least some preseason takes place andwe get to see these "bubble" guys perform in a real game:
- I still don't think the Dolphins will keep 10 offensive linemen. But until we see Donald Thomas healthy and on the field fully participating, it's difficult to replace one of the guys I have on the team. Conceivably, Ike Ndukwe or Andy Alleman are on notice if Thomas gets back to where he was last year during camp. And if that's the case, look for the Dolphins to add another defensive linemen or linebacker to the roster.
- The linebacker race is a difficult one to handicap. But with Cameron Wake beginning to turn it on in practice, there's a good chance that Charlie Anderson and Erik Walden might be competing for one roster spot. If that's the case, special teams contributions will play a big role. Both are good special teamers - but Walden is the better one of the two.
- If Andy Alleman can remain healthy, I think he makes this team. The coaches seem to be high on him and he can play either guard spot if necessary. But his back has been an issue in the past.
- Jason Allen and Nate Jones - here's the deal. Only one is making the team. I don't think they'll carry six corners - especially with how much they like safety Tyrone Culver and his coverage ability. Allen was the better special teams player last year, so he gets the nod...for now. But that could easily change if Allen doesn't buckle down and perform better. Luckily for him, he seemed to have a good day on Wednesday while Jones is yet to stand out.
- We may not have a "true #1 receiver" - but that's a very good group of six right there.
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Haynos over Nalbone?
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Just insane that Eric Green could actually start. Insane.
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yep
I think you are pretty much dead on with this.
1. I like Nate Jones to finally end the Jason Allen experiment, the guy just can’t cover.
2. I hope one of the rookie corners takes a starting spot from Green.
3. Ike Ndukwe goes if Thomas gets back to where he was.
4. Nalbone makes it to the practice squad.
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I couldn’t agree with you more at this time.
If anything Nalbone stays on the team on the PS while Haynos gets the nod so I like your thoughts there. I still think that either Ike or Allenman will get cut with Frye or Garner taking the spot so that will be an interesting battle. Wake will make the team .. just to athletic not stick. And Jason Allen after 10 days of camp will finally start to get more reps and comfort in the CB spot and make all the plays to stick as a ST player.
CB: Sean Smith covers the big WR.
I think Sean Smith is gonna be the guy we put on the big fellas, even as a rookie. That means he’ll be covering Randy Moss, T.O., Andre Johnson, etc. So technically wouldn’t that make him our #1 CB? Either way I think he’s going to be one of the two wide CBs and we’ll see Vontae in the slot.
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Wow
an even harder choice would be figuring out who you sit game days. You’re 5th and 6th receivers are 2 players whom you hope make it because of their specail teams play. Do you sit the extra OL and DL guys? Maybe it depends on which team you play and the game plan against that specific team.
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dang
if we had this year’s team with last years schedule and team focus/intensity/passion to prove the doubters wrong we wudve went undefeated…
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who are you, ………really??
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If Matt can’t get his groin goin’ he could get PUP’d. That would probably mean Walden is walled in and Anderson is in there son. Noone crowding Crowder? Who’s lined up to back up the line backer?
From this morning's practice
it was Torbor stepping as apparently Crowder and Ferguson got the morning practice off
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Right
Torbor is the only backup inside linebacker right now in my eyes. And I’d imagine they’d keep one on the PS.
I don't see Walden beating out Anderson
Walden may be a better STer, but Anderson is the better all around player. He can play ILB or OLB, and they need depth at ILB. As for the last two WR spots, I’m not sure Hartline is a lock as some might think. If London and Armstrong continue to outshine him throughout training camp, he may wind up a practice squad member. But I do agree one of the 10 lineman won’t make it, just not sure which position they will beef up with the spot (WR, DB, or LB most likely).
If London and Armstrong continue to outshine him?
I don’t get that one. If anything, it’s been Hartline outshining London and Armstrong the past 3 days.
In your own write-ups
You have mentioned London and Armstrong more than Hartline. Since Hartline has been drafted, he’s never been mentioned as more than a STer this year in any write-up I’ve read. He was drafted as a project player, who could contribute as a STer this year with the prospect of becoming a WR option next year. The only person I’ve read give him higher praise was Mark Sanchez, but what else would you expect from his former QB.
Wow... I'm confused... wasn't Sanchez from Cali and Hartline from Ohio?
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by Davone_Is_BessT on Aug 6, 2009 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah that happens,
In an earlier post I got JD Quinn and JD Folsom mixed up.
Armstrong has shown flashes as well,
but it’s kind of hard when you got Pat White throwing you the ball, and not Henne.
yep I agree. Good Job
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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Aug 6, 2009 12:02 PM EDT reply actions
Quick question!!
I know we saw very limited action out of Donald Thomas last year but with that being said, wasn’t it dominate enough to warrant holding onto him to see if he returns to that form? What are your thoughts/
One quick note,
I believe you have Clemons and Culver flip flopped, Clemons has been working as a FS.
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Something to look into Matty...
Any news you can dig up about Terry Glenn working as an intern WR coach for the Dolphins?
interesting that all the guys
who were suppose to back up fergy have droped off the planet? has anyone heard anything about anyone but soliai?
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So do you think the Jets intentionally did it to screw up the organization or was it just an unintended side effect of their move.
Tony McDaniel was signed for extra depth at NT,
but it seems he’s making more of an impact in training camp at DE. It does still give us a 3rd string option if necessary.
actually when they signed him
they stated at the time he would be a DE… however since he played DT in J/hole’s 4-3
everyone assumed they would consider him a NT backup…
Chad Pennington - The Lame Ducker aka the progress stopper.
So do you think the Jets intentionally did it to screw up the organization or was it just an unintended side effect of their move.
by W NY Fins Fan on Aug 7, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I admit he's a bit tall for a NT,
but I wasn’t suggesting he’d be starting or even second string. Just extra depth, and I wouldn’t be suprised if you saw him playing DT in nickel or dime packages.
well last year
fergy came out on 3rd and long and starks played the middle… and i suspect that will continue.
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So do you think the Jets intentionally did it to screw up the organization or was it just an unintended side effect of their move.
by W NY Fins Fan on Aug 8, 2009 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Great job Matty
But I think you put the 6-10 off the roster on thee just so we could continue the “Ernest Goes to the…” conversation.
In this case, it’s “Ernest Goes to…the unemployment line…”
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