The Matt Roth soap opera still developing
As Dolphins fans, we've all seen our fair share of weird things in training camp over the years. But this recent soap opera starring Matt Roth and his groin is among the oddest I can recall.
As you all know by now, Roth is yet to practice after he failed his conditioning test over the weekend. On two occasions, when asked by Tony Sparano what is going on, Roth informed Tony he was feeling "under the weather." But on Sunday night during his local television show, agent Drew Rosenhaus declared that what has been holding Roth back from participating is not an "illness" - it's his "groin." It's the same issue that has bothered him for over a year now. Surgery was thought to have taken care of the issue. But it's starting to look more and more like the issue is indeed back.
But the situation, which we all thought would be clearer today, is anything but clear. On Monday night, Sparano and Roth met and discussed what has been going on. Was Roth lying to Tony about this "illness" that he claims is holding him back? Was Rosenhaus making up something about Matt's groin? At the very least, you would have thought Roth and Sparano would have solved this mystery last night during their meeting.
They didn't.
Instead, Roth has been sent to a specialist to have his groin checked out. After this morning's practice, Sparano told the media, ""There is no further clarity. We sent him to get a look at his groin. We're investigating it."
Here's where it gets even more confusing. Tony was asked by somebody in the media if Roth told the team he was feeling slowed by a groin injury. But Sparano responded by saying the team decided to have Roth's groin examined "on our own." What exactly does that mean? Did Roth or didn't Roth tell Sparano on Monday night that his groin was bothering him?
Regardless, it's painfully obvious that Sparano is getting frustrated by this whole thing. You can just tell when you watch the man answer questions about it during his press briefings.
Meanwhile, Jason Taylor is continuing to get more reps as the starter on the strongside and reportedly looking more and more comfortable out there. If Roth doesn't get back soon and perform well, we could actually have a new starting strongside linebacker come September.
Note: Our daily training camp open thread is directly below this. Use that thread to discuss the afternoon practice session.
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Hope he gets healthy and is back soon regaudless of what's happening!!
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by GEtSICK13 on Aug 4, 2009 4:39 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Idk do the phins want a guy to come into camp out of shape and then lie about why he failed his conditioning test
Looks like 2 of Nick Satan’s picks are on their way out
by Souwantmyname on Aug 4, 2009 4:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I love this....
it’s painfully obvious
Excellent timing too…….!!
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by Alpha6 on Aug 4, 2009 4:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I would rather have JT on the field every down.
Losing Roth won’t have that big of impact, if any, on the production of the defense. I know a lot has been said about his ability to stop the run last year, but I don’t necessarily by that. I think teams ran away from Roth because running at Porter was a better option.
by ct1361 on Aug 4, 2009 4:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
reasonable take on things there
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by PhinsTifosi on Aug 4, 2009 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with FinsNation
I think he was hungover…and im not kidding.
I watched Drew say that live…and he fumbled his words…looked down..really looked like he just made that groin thing up.
Roth signed that sheet saying he was healthy hours earlier….but his agent knows his groin hurts so much he missed the first practice?
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by Rzayo24 on Aug 4, 2009 5:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Negotiations over contract extension
Could it be that the bloodsucker Rosenhaus has been caught with his pants down? He was playing hardball with the Dolphins over Roth’s contract extension. At one point, just recently, Rosenhaus said the two sidea are “far apart”. My gut is that both he and Roth knew fully well that something was still very wrong with his groin, and were negotiating in bad faith hoping to seal a deal before camp. Now that camp has started, the injury is impossible to hide, and Roth looks like he was trying to pull a fast one over on the Dolphins to secure that contract extension. Doesn’t bode well for the next round of talks between boss and employee, if you ask me. These types of situations wont exactly inject confidence into the Dolphin’s assessment of Roth’s character.
by Dief on Aug 4, 2009 5:23 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
I think you nailed it... Roth isn't healthy but tried to get an extension out of Miami
I wonder why Drewcifer didn’t just tell Matt Roth to hold out (heal)
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by Souwantmyname on Aug 4, 2009 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What if he's telling the truth?
Is it possible for the guy to be having trouble with his groin and at the same time be feeling under the weather? Maybe he just told coach about his illness and left out the part about the groin. I’m not saying it’s the right thing to do i’m not gonna just jump to conclusions and say he lied. Why would he? Thats the last thing you want to do. I’m a Roth supporter if you can’t tell i think he sets the edge very well and played a major role in our run defense last year. JT may look good now but he won’t set the edge like Roth and won’t last through the season if that’s what he’s asked to do. I think he needs to take care of whatever is ailing him and show this FO why he deserves an extension after this season.
by fins72marino420 on Aug 4, 2009 5:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I just hop tis gets resolved soon and Roth gets back out there
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by Patssuck456 on Aug 4, 2009 5:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
*this
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by Patssuck456 on Aug 4, 2009 5:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They have decided to examine his groin on their own
… sounds kinda wrong…. I can understand him being apprehensive….
by Jason Scott_90 on Aug 4, 2009 5:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sparano wants to know hoe bad this injury is!
And def the org want to know too
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by Aleta on Aug 4, 2009 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If JT can keep this pace up all season,
I say bench Roth and let his groin heal for a while.
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by joel311 on Aug 4, 2009 5:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
"But Sparano responded by saying the team decided to have Roth's groin examined 'on our own.'"
I think this means that Matt Roth will avoid team showers in the future.
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by joel311 on Aug 4, 2009 5:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nothing like having a MD you don't know grab your balls!
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by PhinsTifosi on Aug 4, 2009 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
... unless of course it's a milf doctor...
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by Alpha6 on Aug 4, 2009 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, there is that!
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by PhinsTifosi on Aug 4, 2009 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Id like to announce I have decided to examine my groin on my own tonight.
Details at 11
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by Rzayo24 on Aug 4, 2009 6:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
DETAILS NOW
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by joel311 on Aug 4, 2009 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought you
had that surgically removed? Oh, sorry wrong body part !!
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by Phintastic on Aug 4, 2009 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
welll
thanks for that little tidbit
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by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Aug 4, 2009 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They stop groing a while back ; )
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by Aleta on Aug 4, 2009 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm having a hard time remembering Roth now that JT is back in town...
I still remember how to yell: JT in the house !!!! as I draw a target circle and then punch a hole though it in the middle of my living room after he makes a big play !!!! I know I’m not the only one that does that !!!
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by Dolphinator on Aug 4, 2009 6:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You are the only one who will admit to it however
I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?
by Souwantmyname on Aug 4, 2009 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Roth needs to get his crap together.
As much as I’d love to see Jason Taylor take the center stage this year, Roth was great last year and I’d love for him to be the same again this year.
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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Aug 4, 2009 8:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Roth
has a chance to be even better since this year since it’s his second year at this position. Very strange!! Lots of potential there.
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by Phintastic on Aug 4, 2009 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yep..it is a strange situation
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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Aug 4, 2009 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is not strange..
IT SUCKS!!
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by Aleta on Aug 4, 2009 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dumb question, But im going to ask it anyways...
What is a groin??? Its that a muscle on your leg? Thigh? Sex organ?
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by EverybodyLovesDolphins on Aug 5, 2009 11:13 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What if it's a growing problem instead...LOL!!
What is a groin pull?
A groin pull is an injury to the muscles of the inner thigh. The groin muscles, called the “adductor muscle” group, consists of six muscles that span the distance from the inner pelvis to the inner part of the femur (thigh bone). These muscles pull the legs together, and also help with other movements of the hip joint. The adductor muscles are important to many types of athletes including sprinters, swimmers, soccer players, and football players.
What happens to the muscle with a groin pull?
A groin pull is an injury to the adductor muscles called a muscle strain. When a muscle is strained, the muscle is stretched too far. Less severe strains pull the muscle beyond their normal excursion. More severe strains tear the muscle fibers, and can even cause a complete tear of the muscle. Most commonly, groin pulls are minor tears of some muscle fibers, but the bulk of the muscle tissue remains intact.
What are the symptoms of a groin pull?
An acute groin pull can be quite painful, depending on the severity of the injury. Groin pulls are usually graded as follows:
Grade I Groin Strain: Mild discomfort, often no disability. Usually does not limit activity.
Grade II Groin Strain: Moderate discomfort, can limit ability to perform activities such as running and jumping. May have moderate swelling and bruising associated.
Grade III Groin Strain: Severe injury that can cause pain with walking. Often patients complain of muscle spasm, swelling, and significant bruising.
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by Alpha6 on Aug 5, 2009 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
did u copy this from WebMD?
lol
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by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Aug 5, 2009 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
4 - 6 weeks to heal too... depending on the injury and person...
… since Roth is a suck-egg-mule… I expect 6 weeks for his return.
… by then, he’ll be relegated to third string.
… so an absolute non-factor this training camp… I think.
… I’m so used to cuttin and pastin for work that I should check myself – LOL!!! ur right, I shoulda just said go here:
http://orthopedics.about.com/cs/sprainsstrains/a/groinstrain.htm
Sorry I did that (certainly I do not know shit about the medical field, and did not mean to deceive)
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by Alpha6 on Aug 5, 2009 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lmao
its all good bro…i woulda done the same thing lol
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by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Aug 5, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
WOW i learned something new today lol thanks alpha
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