if these wr’s do good against us wut will happen once we see moss, TO, roddy white and reggie wayne? —first?

Simply pathetic

Was less than impressive. It seemed very predictable to me. I know we aren’t going to open up the Wildcat on Pre Week 3, but the ball movement in the 1st half was very poor and something needed to be shaken a bit…

Davone bess is a horrendous punt returner. HE goes backwards or just jukes around in place and gets tackled

Pat white had his best game so far this preseason.

Both teams played awful and that 45-min. Rain delay was killer. I wouldn’t be surpised if Fox decided not to show another Dolphins game or Bucs game again this season.

I blame Canada for this.

how we won is a miracle to me.We couldn’t run, pass, or block, not usualy a recipie for sucess. Are secondary let up passes all night. Luckily for us, TB played worse

Hartline had a nice game 3 rec and 72 yds…i think.

Camarillo made a nice play.

I wonder what Sparano said at halftime?

But we had great seats!! Dolphins sideline, 35 yard line, 4th row from the field – best seats I’ve ever had! You could hear the players talking to each other, unreal.

I have 2 desires:
1. I’d like to see the Dolphins play a game where it doesn’t rain.
2. Patrick Cobbs have all return duties. At least he gets positive yardage and has no hesitation running North immediately.

Also, Matty’s post had me thinking about blocked punts. If they punt and one of our guys blocks it, isn’t it a live ball because we touched it? Maybe that is why Anderson was trying to catch it.

Or so you would think from the man love he was getting last night

What’s amazing to me is that we only allowed 2 field goals which would seem to someone who wasn’t watching as a great game for the defense but it was the complete opposite. Too many open recievers, couldn’t stop the run, and there was absolutely no pressure on Byron Leftwich in the first quarter! They played pretty bad.

And while he did push off very slightly on the CB, he still has some blazing quickness that’s only get to be more useful as he runs better routes. I believe he drew about 3 first downs just on penalties, whether that was Tampa’s corners playing stupid or him just being squirrelly and hard to get a hold of I can’t be sure, but I like what I’m seeing and I hope to see more of him; but not at the cost of having Greg on the sidelines.

Lex again didn’t get to play first team D, but seeing as how Ronnie/ Ricky were struggling against them, I doubt Hilliard could have done much better. Ricky looked solid as hell though, he broke as many tackles as he could before being swarmed, and his pitch & run was great use of his burst. His friggin legs are enormous!

WTF Jake Long called for holding?!

Although Wilson’s “late” hit was a little cheap, I wouldn’t mind seeing one of those in the regular season, in the first qtr. I’m sure Tony would disagree, but I like the smashmouth “Jimmy Johnson” style of play like when he was coaching the Canes. His motto was “the first one is on me, let them know we’re here to play.”

Pennington looked bad. He made some good plays, but he missed some eassssy throws that would have been first downs, and the time he targeted Ginn in the middle, that was all Teddy, he made that catch happen with his slide/dive (I can’t tell what it was because the camera got there slightly late). Henne, whew, what a stinker of a game he had. After those first three possessions I was ready to see Henne step in and man the first team, but I doubt we would have gotten any points with his @ the helm.

How about that one handed grab by Bess? Sure it didn’t count but if that’s a sign of things to come from him, I feel safe with him as a “go-to” guy.

Jeeeeez louise. I thought McCown was going to get something broken. I don’t remember many plays where he didn’t have to scoop himself off the grass.

I believe he tweeked his ankle if I’m not mistakin

Us fans were getting ahead of ourselves with the phins…

It was obvious to me that the game plan was just to use the most basic plays on offense. No wildcat, no razzle dazzle, flee flickers, end arounds, etc. They did a little last week, but it was the same plays used last year. Didn’t surprise me… they aint gonna show their hand on offense.

I think this explains a little for the poor running game… they did test the longer ball tho on pass plays… which may account for Bess not seeing the rock… he’s more of a possession type, medium range receiver… movin the chains.

The defense too, was just plain vanilla. Yeah, the pass rush was there, but you can’t contain these Jaguars (J Peezy, JT, Wake, etc). Tho I did see J peezy handled fairly well on most of his rushes.

I think the defensive backs were playing off more than usual, but seemed to bend, but not break when it came to the opponent scoring points. I think Tamps used more aggressive plays than Miami in their passing game… they had to… the skill level is nowhere near what even Miami has at the receiver spots.

Aside from the usual playmakers for Miami, I see Hartline surprising on offense and Sean Smith on defense this year when the regular season begins.

The first was the WR corp. They are not very good and it showed last night. Both Ginn and Hartline were having all kinds of trouble getting off the LOS in a bump and run. Fox showed a replay of Ginn getting knocked off his route by 5 yards. You simply cannot have that when your passing game is built on timing, like the phins. Hartline was having the same difficulty. He did draw some illegal contact penalties, which is good but he cannot get tied up like he was. They also did not create consistent separation from the defender. That resulted in Hartline’s pass interference penalty. He had to create separation to catch that pass, so he pushed off. If you noticed on the replay of the long catch that Hartline did get, he got a free release off the LOS. Trust me, opposing defensive coordinators, after watching this film, will be playing bump and run against the phins WR.

The 2nd concern that I had was in the secondary. I think Smith will be a very good player (still not sold on Davis) but he is young and it will take a while to get there. Will Allen is a good CB but I don’t consider him a “shut down” corner. And I am not sure how good the Safeties are in coverage right now. Over the last couple of games (TB and CAR) there have been a lot of open WR / TE’s in the middle of the field. Also, remember that the Panthers 2 best WR’s didn’t play last week, so last week wasn’t a good test for the CB’s. As Matty said above, an accurate QB would have chewed up the phins secondary last night.

One other observation from last night. Camarillo is not ready, IMO. He looked slow and to me it looked like there was a hitch in the way he was running. He didn’t look smooth. Remember the gaming winning catch against Baltimore in ’07, he caught the slant and exploded into the seconday. Nobody was going to catch him that day. Yesterday, he was waiting to be caught and even Troy Aikman (he is a terrible commentator by the way) said as much. I think Camarillo is destined to be cut or on the PUP list.

Or does it seem like quite a bit of calls have gone against the dolphins this preseason!? I could be just bias?

4 tackles in 3 games, no FF, no sacks, no PDs… Langford looked good with several pressures and a key sack/FF in the red zone.
After watching this game I have the same concerns I had at the beginning of last year:
1. Can the secondary play against good or even average receivers?
2. Can we run up the middle?
3. Can we convert 3rd downs?
4. Can our receivers get open?

When I hear the announcers keep saying “wide open” when talking about other teams receivers, that just makes my heart sink. A great pass rush is nice, but 2 sacks and a 35 yard completion is still a first down.

Is the only guy in our receiving core with any speed. Thats just not ganna get it done folks

Guys we barely had more than a dozen offensive plays in the entire first half. NOONE got many plays (except the D).

Last night in the last play of the game. (I think it was the last play)

When Vontae Davis hit Josh Freeman on the knees when he was running towards the sideline, wasn’t that hit against the new Brady Rule. Just wondering.

then he is fair game. That dude needs to get out of bounds or slide if he is going to last in the NFL.

Abyone else catch that Joe Buck apologized for talking too much on a couple of occaisions, at one point saying, “Don’t you hate when commentators talk when you would rather just watch the game?” and then just went silent for about 30 seconds. You think he read the comments on The Phinsider about the last game? LOL!

It seems we have a bad game and we should throw eveyone under the bus.

In pre-season, coaches coach differantly. The preperation for the games is more of what we want to do vs what we should do to stop or outsmart the opponent.

Plus, they played 3 games in 11 days. We all know CP10 is way better then that. Our line is way better and the DEF is way better as well.

It’s just pre-season. It truely does not reflect the outcome of the season. Detroit went 4-0 in the preason last year.

Just seems that way…

AWFUL game? yes it was. but its better to play these sloppy games now in week 3 of pre season in awful conditions rather then week 3 of the regular season…every team had bad games and we should be greatfull it came now rather then later. this coaching staff will crunch this game film and it will only make us better in the long run. as for porter he will be fine hes a gamer, he turns it on when the games count i wouldnt worry.couple other thoughts..
-sean smith and vontae will both be very very good in a few years. will allen looked soft last night.
-JT has been the player of the preseason just coming out and beasting it and showing hes still got alot left.
-lex hilliard is a good BACKUP. ronnie brown looks faster,quicker and way more decisive on hitting holes then he ever has…just needs to play more.
-CP is consistent…chad henne worrys me the more i see him
-devone bess is a slot recieving star in the making…chain mover.
-cameron wake is freakishly strong and has sweet power moves. big upside.

you guys all rule thanks for the posts i love hearing your points!

- The next time I see Chad Henne play like a franchise QB will be the first…..I would love someone to replay to this and tell me why they think he will be the future. I havent seen it…not even vs. 2nd and 3rd stringers. Great arm….yes. But what good does a great arm do you when you throw it into the stands everytime?

- S.Smith is gonna be a beast. He is already jumping routes….and hes a rookie. Just wait till he gets some experiance under his belt.

-CP10 looked good if you ask me….great throws mixed in with checkdown passes…same ol CP. No running holes didnt help him…but the TD Drive was noyce.

-JT and Peezy looked good….lots of pressure.

-Crowder did his jumping on the pile thing again all game long…if he was 1 sec faster hed be Ray Lewis like,,,,but hes not.

-Overall it is what it is….preseason. We didnt show them a damn thing…and we tryed to work on some stuff obviously. Some dumb mistakes costs us…but if your gonna slash ur throat over this game then have a good time….its not that big a deal…not to mention WE WON.

we did look very ugly last night. Very ugly. But we still won, good teams find ways to win even when they play bad. Just a little food for thought.

1) No wildcat…no trickery….and thats a big part of our offense.

2)We didnt game plan at the level we would have

3)once we started figurin them out…we took out the starters….we would eventually won by a few TD’s IMO.

4)we won.

5)We used 3rd stringers like Lex in 2nd team situations…to see what they had…thats something these uys do…..Hartline starting….if we wanted to win that ame like a freakin super bowl….we wouldnt be messing around.

4 sure

he’s gone. He goes full bore directly into the back of his wedge every time lol. But at least he’s going forward at full speed.

On Pennington’s TD pass to Fasano, Aikman said it was designed to come back that way. While I don’t think CP was supposed to run in a circle, it did look like he was supposed to half roll and then throw back to The Bull. That’s the type of creative plays we’ll be seeing all season.

I’m not worried about the pass rush. In our 3-4, the rush comes from the OLB’s, and both of them are A) old, B) guaranteed a starting job, and C) probably not going 100% on each play, especially in rainy conditions in the preseason. I’ll wait for the regular season to see JT and Peezy tearing around the corner for sacks.

Smith is still a rookie, and it shows, but he’s clearly the best CB we have opposite Will Allen. And I like that he’s jumping routes, because it shows that he’s confident in what he sees and he’s making aggressive plays. If he can make it count whenever he does it during the season, he’ll be fine.

DC$. That’s all.

Hilliard has been a beast running the ball, but the fumbles concern me. Ball security is the most important thing to these coaches, and he’s put it on the ground a couple times this preseason. I love the way he runs, but there’s no room for turnovers.

Really starting to become a lame quantifier. “If you subtract his longest run” or if you “subtract the run after catch”.

If you subtract the undefeated season the Phins are only a respectable franchise and not a marquee one.

IMO: That was one of the worst games I’ve ever watched. Henne disappointed but the whole second half was sloppier than Rex Ryan at a Chinese buffet.

     Hmm, from the things i noticed last night we need to work on our D. The Bucs running game wasn’t that impressive but, somehow Leftwhich found his way to get the ball down the field to Stovall who isn’t even a starting WR. He mostly ran slant routes where he ended up right in the face of our rookie Sean Smith. The problem with this was that our pass rush couldn’t find their way to Leftwhich. He had way to much time in the pocket, I’ll give it too the Bucs they had some good blocking but, still this shouldn’t of happened the whole first half.
    The Second thing I’d like to talk about was Pennington. He didn’t seem to get it done last night. He had some trouble finding his recievers but, when he did they were excellent completions. Towards the end of the first half the phins were fighting against the clock, moving down the field. Pennington was calling for the hurry up, this I believe Pennington is at his best. Short completions , but also accurate moving at a fast pace. I don’t believe the Dolphins did horrible last night because they pulled off a win. Our defense stepped it up in the second half giving up no points. Good job Miami on the win.

that game was super sloppy, on both ends of the football for both teams, hopefully we can bounce back from that…

why the disconnect on your comments between Hartline, who was very good, and Pennington who pretty much stunk up the field until some guy named torie cox hit the field? seriously why doesn’t hartline get some props for a good game if you are going to say pennington had one….

and to take that pass interference call one step – do you think Moss gets called for the same move?? no way. that was a cheap welcome to the NFL call…

finally – if you are going to talk about the lame duckers rain bows how about the one he threw to a WIDE OPEN martin at the 5 at the end of the half that hung up so long that the DB was able to close from 10 yards away and break up the play on the sideline….