Dolphins at Buccaneers: What to watch for
We've finally reached the "dress rehearsal" for the regular season. The third preseason game is historically when coaches decide to play their starters into the second half. Thursday's game will be no different for the Dolphins when they visit Tampa Bay. The good news for Dolphin fans nationwide? The game will air live on FOX at 8 pm eastern.
Here are just some of the things to look for on Thursday night:
OFFENSIVE PRODUCTION OUT OF FIRST TEAM
Through the first two preseason games, there's no doubt that we've seen improvement out of the first-team offense. But of the Dolphins six total offensive possessions with the first-team offense, only three have resulted with points - and only one ended with a touchdown. On Thursday, Tony Sparano plans to keep Chad Pennington in the game into the second half and plans to keep the starting offensive line together for the first three quarters. It has also been reported that the Dolphins did at least do a little game-planning for this game despite it only being a preseason game. That means we should see a more efficient and, hopefully, productive offense on the field in Tampa.
It'll all start up front, of course, with the offensive line. After a tough start against Jacksonville to open the preseason, the line put together a very strong showing against Carolina last week. Justin Smiley and Jake Grove looked much more comfortable in that second game and Donald Thomas continued to progress as he continues to make up for lost practice time. While the Bucs aren't as stout up front as Jacksonville, they have done a great job of holding opposing starting running backs to little yardage. In their preseason opener against Tennessee, Chris Johnson and LenDale White combined for just 13 yards rushing on 10 carries. The following game against Jacksonville, the Bucs held Maurice Jones-Drew and Greg Jones to just 13 yards on 5 carries. So Tampa's starting defensive unit is no slouch against the run - making this a good barometer to measure how the offensive line and the ground game is coming along.
But while Tampa has been tough on the ground, they haven't been nearly as effective defending the pass. Last week, David Garrard lit up the Bucs secondary to the tune of 216 yards through the air on 10 of 16 passing, including a 74 yard TD pass to Troy Williamson to start the game. Even if you take away the long TD pass, the Bucs surrendered 9.46 yards per attempt to Garrard. Meanwhile, Chad Pennington has quietly put together a solid preseason. He's completed 12 of his 18 attempts for 143 yards and a touchdown. But if you take away his (under-thrown) 35 yard 'Wildcat' pass to Patrick Cobbs, CP is only averaging 6.35 yards per attempt. Better than Chad Henne's YPA? Yes - but not nearly as good as his current 7.9 YPA average.
WHICH RECEIVER MAKES A PUSH TO BE A STARTER?
But more important than Chad Pennington's performance - and I say this because I'm fairly confident we know what we're going to get from CP - is how the receivers perform. Ted Ginn had a solid opening game but was quiet last week against Carolina. Many fans are hoping this is the year Teddy finally breaks out - and it could be. But I'm hoping to see more consistency out of Ginn.
With that said, though, all eyes will really be on the battle to start on the other side of Ginn. Greg Camarillo, Davone Bess, and Brian Hartline have taken turns working with the first-team offense throughout camp. Bess than began the preseason as the starter. Last week, however, Hartline got the start. Tony Sparano said on Tuesday that he is getting close to figuring out who his other starting receiver will be - meaning this game against Tampa will be each player's final opportunity to make a case that he should be the starter. In particular, though, I'm interested to see how much work Camarillo gets. He only saw four plays in the opener and got in a few more plays last week. I'd like to see him get more involved in the offense as he works his way back. Regardless of if he wins the starting job or not, Greg is going to be a key contributor to this offense.
CAN SECONDARY REBOUND?
I'm not trying to say that Miami's secondary played poorly last game against Carolina. But I also wasn't impressed, either. If you look at the numbers, the Dolphins didn't play poorly against the pass. But those watching the game know that the Fins had trouble defending Carolina's tight ends in addition to surrendering two big 3rd down conversions. On the drive that resulted in the DeAngelo Williams TD run, Jake Delhomme completed a 15 yard pass on 3rd & 8 and a 16 yard pass on 3rd & 12 to keep the drive alive. Those are the kinds of situations where this secondary must step up, make a play, and get off the field.
Of cours, the return of Sean Smith will should certainly boost the unit's play. Smith was exceptional against Jacksonville in the opener but missed last week's game with a mysterious "illness." Jason Allen, who also missed, will be back, too, and should provide some quality depth to the secondary. While I'm very interested in seeing how Smith performs in his second professional game working with the starters, I'll also be paying close attention to safeties Yeremiah Bell and Gibril Wilson. Carolina's tight ends did a number on the Dolphins last week and, generally, it's a safety's fault when a tight end makes a big reception. Last week, Carolina's tight ends combined for 7 receptions and 109 yards despite not having a single tight end who would rank in the top half of the league. That's unacceptable and I'll be looking for improved play against opposing tight ends.
MORE TO WATCH FOR
Some other quick hits on what I'll be watching:
- Punt coverage must improve. The Dolphins surrendered a 58 yard return last week against the Panthers. Those kinds of mistakes are killers in regular season games against tough opponents.
- Who shows the most ability as return men? I expect Ted Ginn, Davone Bess, Patrick Cobbs, and Brian Hartline to all get opportunities to return kicks and/or punts against Tampa. Let's hope some of these guys make a play and win the job thanks to their own strong play - not by default because nobody else stood out.
- Consistent pass rush - that's a key for the first-team defense. We've seen that unit apply a lot of pressure on the QB during their limited action in the first two preseason games. But can they do it consistently?
- After being somewhat inconsistent, Dan Carpenter has been on the mark during the preseason. He's out-kicked Connor Barth on kick-offs and is perfect on FG attempts - hitting both of his kicks from 40+ yards. One more perfect game and he could have this job officially locked up.
- Third downs are key. So far through the preseason, the Dolphins have been excellent on 3rd down - converting 43% while holding opponents to just 28%. But as I said above, the Dolphins surrendered two key 3rd down conversions last week against the Panthers that kept a drive alive that resulted in a touchdown. Those kinds of breakdowns need to occur less.
- Let's see some Lex Hilliard against an opposing team's starting defense!
GAME THREAD
Game time tonight is 8 pm eastern and our live thread will be up around a half hour before kick-off. The game will be televised live on FOX. So join us then!
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I'm happy we'll all get to see it. I love those nationally televised games.
and the dragfly aint a beer. on the flip! - Finsxfactor's tribute to Wild Zion Beaver
by kdock on Aug 27, 2009 12:40 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yea, i usualy dont get the games
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by samdaman on Aug 27, 2009 7:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fox = Football
This is awesome. I have yet to see a game. Do to the fact I live in Mass. and have comcast. The NFL network is pretty much worth-less.
Does anyone know how to legally watch dolphins games on the internet?? Is there a website that I can go to and pay for it.
It just sucks that I only get to watch 3 – 4 games a year. I live in a condo and can only get comcast as the provider so verizon or the dish network is out.
Thanks…
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by miami25 on Aug 27, 2009 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no
there’s no way to legally watch NFL games online unless you live out of the United States – in which case you can get Yahoo Gamepass (or something like that) that is offered internationally.
But I have heard that DirecTV will likely offer the NFL Sunday Ticket package online beginning in 2010. So there’s hope for you all in a year!
by Matty I on Aug 27, 2009 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
really? thats awesome!
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by samdaman on Aug 27, 2009 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If there is no legal way
of doing it so-be -it. I do not want to get Matty or this site in trouble for anything.
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by miami25 on Aug 27, 2009 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
TV Online?
I hope they do the same thing for the iPhone like there already is for baseball. That would be great!
by JP 23 on Aug 27, 2009 2:25 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I watched the Jags Fins preseaon game online for free
…and they had the Car/Mia game too…just tried to check the bookmark I had for that site, but its down now….maybe it was illegal?
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by dolfan7309 on Aug 27, 2009 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes - they are illegal
there is no legal way to watch online NFL games without having NFL Sunday Ticket and the SuperFan package.
by Matty I on Aug 27, 2009 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There are legal ways to watch games online,
they just have to the written consent of the NFL.
by luvs2drnk on Aug 28, 2009 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Something I want to see- Ginn return a punt or kick
What’s up with Ginn and special teams? I was at games last year where he made some bonehead mistakes on returns, but we need to get him back on the horse to try again. Chris Williams was brought in to bring excitement to the return game like Ginn did, but we already have Ginn. We don’t need to keep more than 5 Wr’s since 3 of them can return punts/kicks and so can Cobbs.
I understand why Ginn wouldn’t return anything in pregames 1 or 2, but I would really like to see him try this week. He has too much flash not to get the most out of him. I could see if he were an 80 catch, #1 WR the reasons to find someone else, but he’s not.
Remember, he had 3 returns for TD’s as a rookie, however 2 were called back.
Thanks for having me,
Big J
by BigJlovestheDolphins on Aug 27, 2009 12:41 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You know, he is, by leaps and bounds, the fastest guy on offense.
We do need to see him out there. I guess as the consensus number one wideout on the team, he doesn’t have to perform those duties. I don’t know. Hopefully the coaches will see it differently and at least put him in for either kickoffs or punt returns.
and the dragfly aint a beer. on the flip! - Finsxfactor's tribute to Wild Zion Beaver
by kdock on Aug 27, 2009 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ginn the #1 reciver now
Its too big a risk to have him play special teams.
by MotoMan045 on Aug 27, 2009 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Very true.
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by joel311 on Aug 27, 2009 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ginn was #1 last year
But that’s not the reason he was taken off kick and punt returns. He was failing to produce and they wanted him to concentrate on becoming a better receiver. It’s not like we’re talking about Randy Moss, Larry Fitzgerald, or Andre Johnson. Once he starts putting up pro bowl numbers, then I’ll worry about him playing ST.
by luvs2drnk on Aug 27, 2009 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ello Moto....
… I couldn’t stop myself… LOL!!
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by Alpha6 on Aug 27, 2009 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Game on!
Let’s see the O-line push, a Defense swarm, a Penne clinic, an R&R Express roll , and young Lex shine. As well, I’d like a Ginn & tonic, too.
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by Tunaflipper on Aug 27, 2009 12:47 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hit me, bartender!
and the dragfly aint a beer. on the flip! - Finsxfactor's tribute to Wild Zion Beaver
by kdock on Aug 27, 2009 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lex with the first team..!!
…. what IF, they keep Lex and don’t resign Ronnie B.?
heh heh heh, just stirin it up…
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by Alpha6 on Aug 27, 2009 1:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I wanna see Lex on 1st team too
I don’t know about letting Ronnie go, but RIcky is 32.
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by Neo on Aug 27, 2009 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No F...in way!
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by buckeyebill on Aug 27, 2009 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would like to see Hilliard against the 1st team defense.
If he gains alot of yardage, against a run stopping defense, he’ll make the team.
Your best? Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and fuck the prom queen! -Sean Connery
by Kdog92 on Aug 27, 2009 5:37 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i honestly think he's making the team anyway
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by samdaman on Aug 27, 2009 7:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I live in Tampa and am going to the game!
I’m so pumped to tailgate and watch a Dolphin game 3 miles from my house! Can’t wait to see our boys in person again.
Dolphins and Gators baby!
by gatorfin on Aug 27, 2009 7:45 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
must be nice.....only time I'll see a game is when it's in Pittsburgh.
Have fun!
Your best? Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and fuck the prom queen! -Sean Connery
by Kdog92 on Aug 27, 2009 8:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I also wanna see Lex with the first team....
if he tears it up he will be on the team
by scbrandon on Aug 27, 2009 8:04 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm wathing the Phins vs Panthers game,
When did Bonamego get a beard, the Special Teams coach?
Your best? Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and fuck the prom queen! -Sean Connery
by Kdog92 on Aug 27, 2009 8:15 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm excited to see who will be the 2nd WR,
I like all of them, but only one can start. I don’t care who starts, I just want them to win us games.
Your best? Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and fuck the prom queen! -Sean Connery
by Kdog92 on Aug 27, 2009 8:16 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Im routing 4 Hartline..
U have to give him luv, his side matter in this game!
He will dominate in a year or two ; )
I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(22 years and counting)
by Aleta on Aug 27, 2009 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yep
join the hartline fan club!
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by samdaman on Aug 27, 2009 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im in!!
I will bring the beers to the Club House ; )
I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(22 years and counting)
by Aleta on Aug 27, 2009 11:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve been in the Hartline fan club since the second the pick was announced!
by FinsFanDave on Aug 27, 2009 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
I can see him being our starter bye the time we have our bye week. Good-bye Camarillo.
by crossborderFISHingtrip on Aug 27, 2009 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
how can you say good bye to Greggy!?
He’ll recover from his injury soon, just give him time!
Your best? Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and fuck the prom queen! -Sean Connery
by Kdog92 on Aug 27, 2009 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i love greggy, hartline, and bess
i’ll take any one of them
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No hating on Jay Fiedler, please.
by samdaman on Aug 29, 2009 9:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am routing for him too.
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and people are crazy.
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by phyrmun on Aug 27, 2009 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Me too!
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by buckeyebill on Aug 27, 2009 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who Ride?
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by Patssuck456 on Aug 27, 2009 10:10 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i'll be there
Can’t wait to see CP10 pick apart that sorry A$% team and to have Ronnie Brown run over every single person
by Miamiboi84 on Aug 27, 2009 10:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
For what it is worth, I think Lex makes the 53 as well, BUT...
if injuries strike or a quality player at a position of need gets cut and becomes available, will the Trio decide later to cut him because he’s at the tail end of the roster?
Ronnie, Ricky, Cobbs = KNOWN
Lex Hilliard = UNKNOWN
Since there is no real need to see Ronnie or Ricky or even Cobbs in action against a projected weaker Bucs team, I propose allowing Lex to start the game and get a couple of carries against the first team Bucs.
Then a little later, bring him in at the backup fullback position and run a couple of plays to see if he could block or catch from the fullback position against a first team defense.
My reason: then you would know whether he is worth keeping even over other members of the 53 if injuries strike or players become available.
With the increased popularity and usage of three-RB attacks, the fourth RB is no longer extraneous. It would be wise to keep a fouth RB (backup FB) on the 53. If one player is lost for the season and another is banged up for a few games, you will need your 4th RB.
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by DolphDallas on Aug 27, 2009 11:22 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
good points
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by samdaman on Aug 27, 2009 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And u can add to that...
that we only have aPolite at FB, so Lex could be the dept need 4 both positions
I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(22 years and counting)
by Aleta on Aug 27, 2009 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was at Land Shark Stadium last nite
for the Marlins game. A friend had 200 level seats where they have all this cool Dolphin historical stuff. OMG I am fired up now. I am off today and I don’t know what to do all day till game time. I’m just pacin in circles. Too much coffee I think.
You have to play this game like somebody just hit your mother with a two-by-four.
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by snook36 on Aug 27, 2009 11:39 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
is the preseason TE coverage woes going to carry over?
week one might b scary…..tony gonzalez lights up that fatty blunt everytime he see’s the phins on his schedule. out of all the teams we play this year atlanta is the team i want us to beat!
by CaliPhinsFan on Aug 27, 2009 11:52 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
dang, that's a good point...
Those dinks and dunks looked too easy, bothered me too.
That’s New England style passing too.
by phranchise on Aug 27, 2009 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that worries me too.
If we don’t get some better coverage on the TEs from the safeties, Tony Gonzalez is gonna tear us apart in the first game. Not to mention the threat from Dallas Clark in week 2 and Antonio Gates in week 3. Our first 3 regular season games are against some of the best TEs in the game, so we gotta get some better coverage on them.
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by Chupathingy on Aug 27, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Out of all the teams, and outside of the afce rivals...I want to beat HOUSTON FINALLY!
We are the only team to have played them more than once and never beat the Texans (0-4)!!!
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by dolfan7309 on Aug 27, 2009 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was thinkin...
We haven’t really seen Lex kick ass against 1st team D, but if he can show something…
Wouldn’t it be cool if we did have four backs plus Polite and just kept smashing other teams D with fresh runners all the way through games until the end? Most teams tire at least a little by the fourth quarter.
by phranchise on Aug 27, 2009 12:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Good points matty..
im interested in seeing how we fare vs. their run D and pass D.
and i’d def like to see Hilliard line up vs. their starters to see if this guy is really that good
Laces out!
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by BSerious72 on Aug 27, 2009 12:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It irks me when you "take away" a big play from a player's average,
but you fail to also take away their worst play. Removing outliers is a common principle, but you don’t just do it on one end of the spectrum. That obviously skews your results in one direction. Take away Pennington’s two best and two worst completions and I bet Pennington’s average is higher than 6.35.
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by joel311 on Aug 27, 2009 1:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Good post other than that.
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by joel311 on Aug 27, 2009 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
excellent point
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by Souwantmyname on Aug 27, 2009 1:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
YES! I WILL BE WATCHING TONIGHT!!!!
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by rangerjae on Aug 27, 2009 2:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Patrick Turner
I’m really hoping he steps up tonight. I’m rooting for him. Turner has all the potential in the world. I wanna see some of that potential today.
by JP 23 on Aug 27, 2009 2:47 PM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
I'M GOIN TO THE GAME!!!
Wish us luck boys my roomate got 2 free tickets so I’m making the ride from Orlando in about 2 hours!!!
Expect a detailed review and analysis of our performance when I return.
Prediction…
MIA 27, TB 20 as we go 3-0
Laces out!
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Suck it Pats, Bills and most of all... the god damn jets.
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by BSerious72 on Aug 27, 2009 2:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
hope ur rie about the score!
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by samdaman on Aug 27, 2009 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good job Matty... was just emailing you...
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by Alpha6 on Aug 27, 2009 4:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Will Ferguson play all 3 quarters, since he's sooooo...old?
Your best? Losers always whine about their best. Winners go home and fuck the prom queen! -Sean Connery
by Kdog92 on Aug 27, 2009 6:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yikes
Hope they don’t play this Olividotti style defense in Atlanta…
by oceantracks on Aug 27, 2009 8:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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