Dolphins Preseason Review: Who has made the biggest impression?
Believe it or not, we are less than three weeks away from week one of the NFL season. Training camp will soon be winding down for the Dolphins and we're halfway through their preseason schedule. So what better time than now to do a mid-point review of what we've seen from the Dolphins in the preseason?
What I've decided to do is simply list which players have made the biggest positive impression on me during the preseason as well as those who have made little or no impression on me - with a special emphasis on those players who are currently on the proverbial "roster bubble." Of course, this list is far from comprehensive, which is where all of you come in. Be sure to tell us your thoughts in the comments below.
THREE WHO HAVE MADE POSITIVE IMPRESSION
RB Lex Hilliard - Entering camp, there wasn't much thought given to the Dolphins keeping four halfbacks on their final 53-man roster. But Lex Hilliard has suddenly put that thought into his coaches' heads and has made a strong case to make this football team. We talked yesterday about the "numbers game" and how keeping four running backs would affect how the final roster is assembled. But this is something the coaching staff is really going to have to discuss. After all, this regime is not in the business of waiving good football players. If Hilliard is as promising as he might be (more as a future complimentary back - not a feature back), you don't just let go of him. His 18 carry, 94 yard stat line is impressive - but it has been produced against opposing teams' 2nd and 3rd string defenses. And if you take away his longest run in each of the two preseason games, Hilliard is averaging just 2.75 yards per carry on those other 16 rushing attempts. But he's shown good quickness and explosion through the hole for a 240 pound back. And Tony Sparano did praise his special teams work in both games. That's how he can cement his roster spot - by going out and proving he can be a special teams contributor on gameday. It'd also be nice to see him get a few carries against a first-team defense.
RG Donald Thomas - The right guard position was a big question mark entering camp. Donald Thomas was coming off of a season-ending foot injury entering the offseason and then injured his chest while working out during the offseason. He started off camp with rehab work and was slowly implemented back into the offensive line rotation. But he has been very impressive when he has been on the field during the preseason. In the opener, despite a lackluster performance by the first-team offensive line as a whole, Thomas had a solid game - regularly "pancaking" his man. Last week, Thomas played even better. He won the majority of his one-on-one blocks and even showed the quickness to get out and pull - making a key block on Hilliard's 39 yard TD run. The man is clearly strong and powerful and, most importantly, he finishes his blocks. The starting right guard spot is officially all his. Now he just needs to stay healthy.
OLB Quentin Moses - Before training camp started, I really didn't think Quentin Moses had any shot to make this final roster. But Matt Roth's mysterious groin injury has allowed Moses to get more reps in practice and extended looks during the preseason. He's made the most of these opportunities. I've noticed Moses getting pressure on the quarterback on more than one occasion. He hasn't picked up a sack yet, but quarterback hurries are just as valuable. I've noticed that the 260 pound linebacker looks to have a quicker first step. And remember, he's a guy with a lot of talent. He was a third-round pick coming out of Georgia. And entering that season for UGA, there were rumblings that Moses could be a late first or early second round selection. But now it seems as though the game is finally slowing down for him - and he's making plays. He looks strong at the point of attack, too, which is very important because it allows him to set the edge on runs his direction (much like Matt Roth was good at doing last season). I don't think his roster spot is a lock by any means, but he went from having little chance (at least in my mind) to being right in the mix for one of the OLB spots.
Other Candidates - Cameron Wake, John Nalbone, Sean Smith, Nathan Jones, Paul Soliai, Reggie Torbor
THREE WHO HAVE MADE LITTLE OR NO IMPRESSION
WR Anthony Armstrong - Many fans were jumping aboard the Anthony Armstrong bandwagon during the offseason as we continually read reports of Armstrong beating Miami's corners deep for big plays during OTAs and minicamp. But the corners he regularly dominated were guys who were either cut (Eric Green) or will be cut (Will Billingsley). During training camp, Armstrong has been relatively quiet. And in the preseason, Armstrong has been completely non-existent. He doesn't have a reception. He's dropped two passes. And in his one kickoff return, he only gained 20 yards. That's not how a player like Armstrong is going to make this team. Considering he can't really contribute on coverage units because he weighs 185 pounds soaking wet, he needed to really make a name for himself as a receiver. But he's failed to do so and I don't expect him to stick once it's time for final cuts.
TE Joey Haynos - With the release of Ernest Wilford, the battle for the third tight end spot (if the Dolphins keep three) is between Haynos and rookie John Nalbone. Haynos, though, has failed to get my attention at all. He has great size (6'8, 270) but hasn't been a factor at all during the preseason. But while no passes have come his way - which isn't exactly his fault, making it hard to blame him - I've been underwhelmed with his blocking skills. From what I've noticed during games, Nalbone is the better blocker. And whichever TE is kept as the third one will have to be able to block - especially since David Martin isn't exactly a reliable blocker, either. In my opinion, Haynos is losing the battle to Nalbone and will have to step up if he hopes to stick.
DE Phillip Merling - Merling entered training camp working as a starter opposite Kendall Langford. But since then, he's fallen back to the second unit while Tony McDaniel and Randy Starks have gotten reps with the first team. And it's been Starks, not Merling, who has gotten the majority of the first-team reps during the preseason. Merling isn't exactly known for being a great practice player, either. But you can almost look beyond that if the player in question performs on gameday. Thus far through two preseason games, I haven't seen any sense of urgency from the second-year defensive end. Last season, Merling came on strong late in the year. So here's to hoping he's just a slow starter.
Other Candidates - Lionel Dotson, Erik Walden, Brandon London, Gibril Wilson, Pat White
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Thoughts on Gibril Wilson...?
Upgrade or next Ernest Wilford?
by Krush on Aug 26, 2009 12:24 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
uprade
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by samdaman on Aug 26, 2009 7:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
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by PhinsTifosi on Aug 26, 2009 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
upgrade
sadly im stuck up in the new york area so i do see alot of jet giants games and gibril was awesome when he played fs for the g men…keep in mind he got moved last year so i wash those stats out. hes a natural FS and i think he will have a productive year
by DRINKtheGINN on Aug 26, 2009 10:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Donald Thomas looks tremendous. He looks so much bigger and stronger this year. We’re lucky to have that guy. But What about Hartline? When he was drafted everyone was like “who?” But he’ s the one battling for a starting spot unlike Turner or London. I think that Hartine is the perfect compliment to Ginn with his size and ability.
- I’m trying to be positive on Wilson. I kind of had a feeling that he’s going to get torched this year.
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by AussieKen on Aug 26, 2009 12:29 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Could it be
Clemons starting by the end of the year. Is it all these guaranteed money contracts which lowers their output? Wilford, Green and …..?
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by Phintastic on Aug 26, 2009 9:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no, those 2 just sucked guaranteed money or not
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by PhinsTifosi on Aug 26, 2009 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well put
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by Phintastic on Aug 26, 2009 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Channing Crowder has really stepped it up so far
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by Patssuck456 on Aug 26, 2009 12:37 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
channing has the talent to be a top nfl lb
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by samdaman on Aug 26, 2009 7:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Channing can't wait until Oct 12
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by PhinsTifosi on Aug 26, 2009 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
agree with you but...
I watched the game on NFL replay today because I didnt get a chance before and Merling was a beast watch it again
by YatilGinnJr on Aug 26, 2009 12:37 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Thursday will be telling.
This game sets the starters and the next game culls the herd.
Armchair QB's always complete the pass and armchair coaches always pick the right players.
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by Tunaflipper on Aug 26, 2009 12:42 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Guys,
Gibril will be a beast, that i can promise. Living in the North East, and following him very closely(Because he is my fantasy DB), i can tell you for sure that he is an upgrade. He gets lost in the mix sometimes this preseason because our defense as a whole, so far, has been better from front to back. Last year, our safeties had to make too many plays at the line of scrimmage, because our defense wasn’t very stout up front. This year so far, it has been spectacular, and that is why we haven’t seen the best of him yet. Give it time, and don’t jump off the bandwagon just yet. he will produce, and he will be an upgrade.
Now is the time- the time to rise up from the depths of Hell and stake our claim back on top of the AFC East...Look out Gaytriots here comes Jake Long and the Phins
by FinzD54 on Aug 26, 2009 7:06 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Gibril Wilson
Yes, he hasn’t stood out. But, he hasn’t hurt himself either. I don’t see a problem. The only guy in the secondary that has stood out in a major way to me is Sean Smith. Other than Smith, everyone else has been pretty quite. The front seven has been dominant. But the secondary as had it’s ups and downs so far. As for Vontae, one good game, one bad game. Let’s see how he does in is 3rd game.
by JP 23 on Aug 26, 2009 8:10 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Ups and downs mostly because of Eric Green.
And now he’s gone. :)
by JP 23 on Aug 26, 2009 8:14 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
i agree
im very high on gibril
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by samdaman on Aug 26, 2009 8:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm also hyped on him
Yea he hasn’t stood out much but I liked how in da first game Wilson grab vontae after makin a dumb play n set him straight. He has great presense.
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by EverybodyLovesDolphins on Aug 26, 2009 8:52 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
yea, i was just thinking of that
gibril is a much needed leader in our secondary
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by samdaman on Aug 26, 2009 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gaytriots that is funny.
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by miami25 on Aug 26, 2009 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hartline
would have to be my choice being that he was a 4th round pick, but i’m pleasantly surprised at how quick Sean Smith has come up to speed. He could have the biggest impact to out team, since this was the weakest aspect of the team. And what can you say about Clemons, he’s been performing very well also.
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by Phintastic on Aug 26, 2009 9:12 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Shawn Murphy
I think Shawn has been impressive too. I believe a full year of playing in the NFL will bring him along well. And, we should be thankful for the depth we are building in the trenches after suffering for several years with horrendous o-lines.
I think we should add Patrick Turner, Brian Hartline, Chris Clemmens, and other rookies to the list. Our FO had a great draft this year by the looks of the rooks so far!
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by JDPhinFan on Aug 26, 2009 9:33 AM EDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Turner
I really like what ive seen of turner thus far…his hands are hugeee. he needs to get a little smoother in routes and a little more seperation and he may turn into a real steal and also prove all the “experts” to be the fools most of them are.
by DRINKtheGINN on Aug 26, 2009 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lex Hilliard
Let us keep in mind although he is doing this damage to 2nd and 3rd string defenses, he is running with 2nd team o line as well. As you said I would definitely like to see him get some 1st team reps to see what we’ve really got. Once again Nice Post!!
by usnavydolphan on Aug 26, 2009 10:04 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cameron Wake
I love the way hes looked coming off the edge…the explosivness is amazing and he comes off blocks pretty well…pure power and speed. Needs to step up ALOT in coverage though but still looks like a great move. especially compared to the jets gholston who is light years behind and was taken as the 6th pick 2 years ago…i think wake has alot of upside guys.
by DRINKtheGINN on Aug 26, 2009 10:33 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yea, im liken' how wake looks
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by samdaman on Aug 26, 2009 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lex Hilliard was part of my reasoning for trading Ronnie Brown pre-draft.
I was called a nut and told that Hilliard was terrible.
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by joel311 on Aug 26, 2009 11:21 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sometimes you fell like a nut,
It’s a win win situation with Ronnie right now.
Sometimes you don’t,
Hilliard certainly isn’t terrible -against 2nd teams, anyway.
Armchair QB's always complete the pass and armchair coaches always pick the right players.
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by Tunaflipper on Aug 26, 2009 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hilliard was the 2nd best of two rookies out of last years draft.
I think that’s why he got the hate. Parmalee might make The Ravens squad this year.
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by joel311 on Aug 26, 2009 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bernie unretired? I'm shocked!
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by PhinsTifosi on Aug 26, 2009 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, the good Parmalee.
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by joel311 on Aug 27, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey don't hate on Bernie.
That guy was a great all around back. A poor man’s Marshall Faulk. Hell, he was better than Sammie Smith, Terry Kirby, Mark Higgs, Cleveland Gary, Bobby Humphrey, and any other HBs Shula put on the field in the early 90’s.
by luvs2drnk on Aug 27, 2009 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Outside of the 70's,
Shula didn’t really have an eye for RBs. Saying Bernie was better than a giant list of nobodies doesn’t really make him that great.
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by joel311 on Aug 27, 2009 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's because once Shula had Marino, he forgot there was such a thing as a running game
I wasn’t saying Bernie was an All Pro, but he was considerably better than that giant list of nobodies we called our backfield in the early 90’s.
by luvs2drnk on Aug 27, 2009 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
nooo wayyy
you cant trade ronnie on the idea the lex hilliard is the second coming or something…were talking about a guy in pre season here. i like lex and all but ronnie does too many things well (catching the ball and blocking) to be replaced by him.
by DRINKtheGINN on Aug 26, 2009 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lex Hilliard was
part of the reasoning.
There were two other backs, one giant injury, and an inflated hype that factored into the reasoning much more.
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by joel311 on Aug 26, 2009 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There was reasoning behind that?
Ronnie is gonna be kicking FG’s like Ocho Cinco before long!
Gonna be the winner of the NFL Run, Pass & Kick competition!
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by PhinsTifosi on Aug 26, 2009 7:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
again - we're talking about Lex as a 4th RB
and possibly a solid #2 back in the future. That’s not nearly enough insurance to just trade Ronnie. I’d never want to see a Ricky/Cobbs/Hilliard platoon. With Ronnie, this group isn’t nearly as good and wouldn’t be nearly as productive.
by Matty I on Aug 26, 2009 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really think your opinion of Ronnie
borders on bromantic. Ricky/Cobbs or even Cobbs/Ricky would be a very effective duo. Throw Hilliard into the mix for depth, and we’re still deep at RB.
Cobbs = vastly underrated.
Brown = unproven at best, vastly overrated at worst.
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by joel311 on Aug 26, 2009 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you watch the same Dolphin games that I do? Or are you from a twisted parallel universe?
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by PhinsTifosi on Aug 26, 2009 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you watch Dolphins games?
Other than the wildcat debut against The Pats, Brown was less than exceptional as a RB. He said himself that he was not playing his best last year, are you going to argue with Ronnie about how well he played?
Everytime Cobbs touched the ball, he made something happen.
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by joel311 on Aug 27, 2009 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but everybody thought Cobbs was just a decoy last year.
Now they know what he can do, so they will watch him closely now.
by luvs2drnk on Aug 27, 2009 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good.
I’d like to see how he does when he’s perceived as a threat.
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by joel311 on Aug 27, 2009 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unfortunately that will hard to do.
Since most of the time he’s on the field is during the wildcat, and 3rd and long. So you can’t really focus on Cobbs in the wildcat with Brown, Williams, Ginn, Fasano, and Martin also on the field.
by luvs2drnk on Aug 27, 2009 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love David Martin,
but I think we should keep Haynos, if not only for his size, for another season before letting him go. Nalbone should be kept too, which means Martin getting cut is the best option for this team in the long run. Unless the FO seriously thinks they can get Haynos onto the PS, I don’t see any other option. Martin’s contract is up this year, and I don’t see him getting re-signed now that we have legitimate receivers.
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by joel311 on Aug 26, 2009 11:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
agree with martin, trade ronnie? not so much
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by samdaman on Aug 26, 2009 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trading Ronnie was only useful pre-draft.
Now we need to see him play the season and prove he is a great back before we re-sign him to mega bucks.
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by joel311 on Aug 26, 2009 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If there's no CBA by next year...
We’ll actually be able to probably keep Brown for relatively cheap since he’ll be a restricted FA. Either that or we’ll get some draft choices in return.
by luvs2drnk on Aug 26, 2009 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If no CBA his contract option is automatic. $5 mill for 2010.
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by PhinsTifosi on Aug 26, 2009 7:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's cheap, considering the almost $10 mil he gets now.
Plus, if someone signs him we get draft choices as compensation.
by luvs2drnk on Aug 26, 2009 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He gets $3.8 mil for 2009
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by PhinsTifosi on Aug 26, 2009 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ooops my bad, he gets $3.6 mil this year. see the article link below
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by PhinsTifosi on Aug 26, 2009 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just did some research, and I'm a bit confused about what I found....
If a new CBA is reached, Brown will be a Dolphin in 2010 for $5 mil. But if no CBA is reached, he would become a FA, restricted I’m assuming since he’s only been in the league 4 years. This was according to the Miami Herald.
by luvs2drnk on Aug 26, 2009 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You have it backwards
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by PhinsTifosi on Aug 26, 2009 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ya hit the sauce a little early I guess. No CBA=Brown under contract option for $5mil. NewCBA=Brown is FA
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by PhinsTifosi on Aug 26, 2009 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's 3am, can you really expect me to be of sound mind at this time?
I did say it confused me, and rightly so. I’m a dyslexic reader at 3am. Either way though it’s good for us, since in either situation he most likely stays a Dolphin.
by luvs2drnk on Aug 26, 2009 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
where are you? Eastern Europe?
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by PhinsTifosi on Aug 26, 2009 9:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
same time zone at least - lol
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by PhinsTifosi on Aug 30, 2009 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, im big on ronnie
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by samdaman on Aug 26, 2009 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where is Turner for unimpressive?
The man with hands like Jesus in OTAs and camp dropped a lot of balls. He didn’t exactly overwhelm me against 2nd and 3rd string Ds. Hartline, to compare, was a hella better.
Pat White impressed me. His one interception was a fluke tip because someone didn’t hold onto the ball. Seems to be the theme during his series as drops were a common problem in the WR corp.
I’m sticking with my story: Hilliard will be an effective replacement for Ricky. Keep him, Ricky is retiring in a year or two anyways (at least that’s the story). He will mature as a runner making him twice as effective when the time comes.
Gibril Wilson is just an average safety with a lot of game experience. I don’t expect him to be Ed Reed, just another guy like Yeremiah but with 1-3 interceptions.
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by DolfinPhan on Aug 26, 2009 2:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pat White still has a long way to go...
I still don’t see him being a starter in the NFL, but would be a great wildcat QB. He needs to learn how to go through his progressions better, and not be so quick to want to run once he sees his primary receiver is covered.
by luvs2drnk on Aug 26, 2009 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Absolutely
He’s still a Rook.
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by DolfinPhan on Aug 26, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Give Pat White a Chance
I agree with DolfinPhan. To be fair, the only substantial time Pat White had under center was in mop-up duty the first preseason game, during which his receivers dropped three of his passes, he had one ball tipped for an interception (not his fault), and had one bad throw. 2nd game, he was in for one series and one play of the next – hardly enough time to get into the flow of the game. And it doesn’t look like they’re planning on using him at all against Tampa Bay. With all this in mind, I think it’s far too early to judge his performance. But his confidence in the huddle and his courage to run the ball when his receivers were covered was impressive.
by wvufan5689 on Aug 26, 2009 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah i agree
i don’t think we’ll see the real value of pat white until the regular season when they’ll roll out the wildpat for real…
but that said he does look like a rookie out there right now and one that isn’t entirely comforatable either.
Chad Pennington - The Lame Ducker aka the progress stopper.
So do you think the Jets intentionally did it to set the organization back 3 years or was it just an unintended side effect of their move.
by W NY Fins Fan on Aug 26, 2009 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thank you!
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by samdaman on Aug 27, 2009 7:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think they are going to be using Pat White
for two drives this game.
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by joel311 on Aug 27, 2009 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice Write Up
BUT you got to give Sean Smith PROPS.
He will be our STARTING RCB.
If Lex Hilliard won the starting RB position, he would be THE story and he is a second year man.
He is fighting for the #4 position (and I hope he makes it).
Regarding Sean Smith, we are talking about a rookie starting at RCB for the Dolphins. That has got to be more impressive.
ALSO Paul Soliai for winning the backup NT job which is more important than the #4 Running Back or #5 OLB.
Vontae Davis has been impressive as well.
My THREE: Sean Smith, Donald Thomas, Paul Soliai
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by DolphDallas on Aug 26, 2009 4:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Good point DolphDallas, like we all knew Sean Smith was going to win the starting CB position
he has to be the guy that has impressed the most. I would put Donald as my 2nd most impressive and actually Hartline as my 3rd. The guy is great on special teams and runs fantastic routes. He isn’t gonna be a star on this team but will be a great pro for us
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by Souwantmyname on Aug 26, 2009 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thomas was not a surprise.
He was called a “Godsend” by Sparano last year. People just have poor memories.
Though, I agree Hartline was a great surprise considering how Patrick Turner dominated OTAs.
Lex Hilliard is not really a surprise to me either. He was good last year too (esp for a late round pick), but was overshadowed by 4 RBs in front of him.
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by joel311 on Aug 27, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Donald Thomas
Im most excited about him because he’s really the only player that we will really get to see during the season.
….On a side note, I went to gang green nation because I was interested to see what they’re fans had to say about their new QB decision. What I found was a whopping 2 comments….Now I know the reports there don’t even compare to the quality Matty writes, but damn that page does seem to be really, REALLY dead.
I guess thats just one more plus to being a dolphin fan. Go Fins!!!
by westcoastdolphin on Aug 26, 2009 4:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Whats with the Hartline bandwagon
The guy has 2 catches in 2 preseason games against 3rd team defenses and people think he should start. Or they feel like he’s about to have a coming out party soon.
by okokokaay on Aug 26, 2009 8:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Its because he does alot of things well
If you go back and watch the games he is a good run blocker for a wr. He had a couple key blocks the game Chris williams had those big kick returns. Add in his great route running and IQ and you have yourself a solid NFL reciever
I wonder who the WR coach is for Ohio State because he is good. Tedd Ginn, Santonio Holmes, Brian Hartline, Brian Robiske all look to be good NFL wr’s. Perhaps the Phins should offer him the WR’s coach job here
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by Souwantmyname on Aug 27, 2009 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great write up Matty!!
and to the Ronnie haters…does anyone remember what he was doing before the knee injury? He was tearing it up! The knee is healthy now, and with Ricky to spell him, he’s gonna have an incredible year.
by FinsFanDave on Aug 26, 2009 9:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Don't get me wrong, I like Brown and hope he sticks around.
But 2,417 yds rushing in 2 and a half seasons isn’t exactly tearing it up. Now AP, with 3100 yds in 2 seasons is tearing it up.
by luvs2drnk on Aug 26, 2009 9:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, thats ap
Self-proclaimed president of the Pat White and Brian Hartline fan club.
by samdaman on Aug 26, 2009 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And that was with Tavares Jackson and Gus Frerotte as his QB.
Can you say 9 and 10 men in the box every play???
by luvs2drnk on Aug 26, 2009 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea, it wasrediculous
Self-proclaimed president of the Pat White and Brian Hartline fan club.
by samdaman on Aug 27, 2009 7:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
*was rediculous
Self-proclaimed president of the Pat White and Brian Hartline fan club.
by samdaman on Aug 27, 2009 7:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
two up and two down
hartline has to be the biggest positive… the mere fact that he is in the running to open the season as the 2nd wr speaks volumes. i’m sure i can go back and pull up some of the threads were people were suggesting that he wasn’t even going to make the team… the guy has been solid and his run blocking is easily the best on the team.
V Davis – if only for the improvement he showed between the j-ville & Car games. he made some nice plays against lina and has to be in the running for the number 2 spot.
the downers…
B london… at least around these parts people were suggesting that he was easily on the team and would make a run at starting… now it’s looking like he could miss being on the team… ST play so far hasn’t been up to snuff and he NEEDs to improve there to have a shot at the roster now…
J Grove…. after the big money – it looked to me that he got pushed around some in the j-ville game and that is exactly the type of team where he was brought in to play against… It’s not like he’ll lose his job, but so far the quality of his play hasn’t matched the hype so far.
Chad Pennington - The Lame Ducker aka the progress stopper.
So do you think the Jets intentionally did it to set the organization back 3 years or was it just an unintended side effect of their move.
by W NY Fins Fan on Aug 26, 2009 10:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Once again how is Hartline looking at #2
2 receptions in two games. Are we all watchong the same thing. Dont get me wrong Im all for anyone putting on the Aqua but yall are ready to annoint him. Has he even started in practice.
by okokokaay on Aug 26, 2009 10:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah this week
after the carolina showing – they moved him to first team… plus – did you see how he blocked in the lina game?? run blocking is very important to this admin and it appears that his is the best if not the only receiver on the team that is above averager if not better…
and don’t forget he likely had a TD in the j-ville game when turner ran the wrong route (imho) and then jumped infront of a ball intended for hartline who was gone..
Chad Pennington - The Lame Ducker aka the progress stopper.
So do you think the Jets intentionally did it to set the organization back 3 years or was it just an unintended side effect of their move.
by W NY Fins Fan on Aug 26, 2009 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs

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