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Dolphins vs Panthers: What to watch for

Didn' the Dolphins just play a preseason game a few days ago?  After months and months without football, the Dolphins hit the field for their second game this week as the 2009 preseason marches on.  On Saturday, the Dolphins welcome the Carolina Panthers to Land Shark Stadium.  And below are just some of the things I'll be watching for as the Dolphins continue to prepare for their division title defense.

OFFENSIVE LINE TO BOUNCE BACK?
Last week against Jacksonville, the Dolphins first-team offensive line struggled to get any push or open up any holes.  Often times, though, it did seem like they were a block (or missed block, really) away from breaking a decent run.  The Panthers don't have as talented of a defensive front as the Jaguars do.  There's nobody up the middle for Carolina like Jacksonville's John Henderson.  Hopefully that means Jake Grove and Justin Smiley play much better than they did on Monday night.

Donald Thomas is also expected to start with the first-team and play more than he did on Monday.  He's still working to get back in shape after missing a lot of time due to the injury he sustained while training during the offseason.  His first game activity since the '08 season opener went well for Thomas.  He impressed me on Monday night with his ability to sustain his blocks and drive his man out of the play.  But he still had hiccups with his technique - which is to be expected for a 2008 6th round pick who spent all but one game on IR last year.  But with Thomas back where he should be - starting - it's time to see the offensive line start to gel.

Let's also not forget about Jake Long and Vernon Carey.  I'll be interested to see how those two do when going up against Julius Peppers in a passing situation.  Long had a shaky game on Monday and I hope to see him bounce back with a solid performance on Saturday.

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HOW WILL SECONDARY FOLLOW A STRONG PRESEASON DEBUT?
On Monday against the Jaguars, the first-team secondary really did a terrific job at shutting down Jacksonville's passing offense.  They held David Garrard to just 22 yards passing while limiting him to completing four of seven passes.  Of course, the Jaguars don't exactly have big-time receivers.  But Torry Holt is still a talented player and remains a savvy veteran.  So it's impressive considering the questions we all had about how the secondary would perform.

But now consistency will be critical.  The Panthers will be without Steve Smith.  So their receiving corps, like Jacksonville's, is average at best.  Therefore, the secondary, and Sean Smith in particular, will have to show some consistency.  Coming off of a short week, I really think this will be a good test for the secondary as a whole - but especially for the young corners.

But the storylines in the secondary continue even after the starting unit comes out.  Will Vontae Davis bounce back after a rough professional debut on Monday night?  He committed too many mental mistakes and cost his team yards - a big "no-no" in the eyes of any coaching staff, especially this one.

Also, following the release of Eric Green, guys like Jason Allen and Joey Thomas will likely receive more playing time.  How will they respond as each attempts to make a case for having a role on the final 53-man roster?

QUARTERBACKS, QUARTERBACKS, QUARTERBACKS
None of Miami's three quarterbacks really set the world on fire on Monday night.  But it's still early and it's expected that the defenses be ahead of the offenses at this point.  However, things do need to get rolling eventually. 

To be honest, I'm not really worried at all about Chad Pennington.  I'm fairly confident that we know what we're going to get from him assuming he stays healthy.  But it would be nice to see the first-team offense beginning to get into a rhythm in the passing game.

But I'll be more interested in how Chad Henne performs on Saturday night.  He's coming off of a "so-so" performance on Monday night and will enter the game off of a short work week.  How much improvement will the young QB show in just a matter of days?  Hopefully, we don't see as many poor decisions as we did last week (I counted at least two very bad decisions - one led to an interception, the other should have been but was dropped).  To be frank, I haven't seen what others have to declare Henne a young stud QB.  He's been inconsistent and, according to all reports, he hasn't had a good camp this year.  Now I admit I was impressed with his performance against Arizona last year in week two.  But that was late in a blow-out against an average (at best) defense.  So as much as I want to believe Henne is going to be a star, I'm not ready to anoint him just yet.  I hope he performs well on Saturday to erase some of my doubt.

Meanwhile, Pat White's 2/7 performance on Monday night wasn't nearly as bad as the numbers lead you to believe.  Three of those passes should have been caught and he did make a play or two with his legs.  But White still didn't look comfortable taking snaps from under center - looking awkward at times dropping back.  We'll see how he's improved in such a short week when he takes the field late in Saturday's game.

MORE TO WATCH
Some quick hits of things to watch for:

  • Will Greg Camarillo get more action?  He was only on the field on Monday night for a handful of plays.  Speaking of receivers, let's not forget about Ted Ginn.  He had a strong showing in just a quarter of action last game.  Let's see if he can show come consistency - which was a problem for Ginn game-to-game last season.
  • How will Miami's outside pass-rush perform?  Cameron Wake had a solid debut working with the second-team last game.  But he still struggled to free himself once a big tackle got his hands on him.  He'll need to develop more than just a speed-rush to be effective consistently.  Also, will any other outside linebackers "flash" for the coaching staff?
  • Will Channing Crowder continue to show improved play?  He blitzed a couple of times last game and, while he didn't record a sack, he did help collapse the pocket and make the quarterback uncomfortable.  He also showed better ability to drop back into coverage.  Let's hope we see more of that from Channing.
  • Will either kicker separate himself from the other?
  • Speaking of separation, will any of the possible sixth receivers separate themselves from the others?  Many eyes will be on return specialist Chris Williams.  Another strong showing by the lightning fast return man will further strengthen his case to make the squad despite limited, if any, contributions to any other aspect of the football team.
  • Randy Starks had a very strong game last Monday working as the starting DE opposite Kendall Langford.  Can he put together back-to-back strong performances and distance himself from guys like Phillip Merling and Tony McDaniel?

GAME THREAD
For the preseason opener, we had over 1,600 comments during our live game threads.  I expect a bigger turnout as we inch closer and closer to opening day.  The game thread will be posted roughly a half hour before kickoff.  And please remember - no posting of links to illegally watch the game and no requesting of links to illegally watch the game.  Also, please do not post your e-mail address on the site and request that somebody with info on how to illegally watch the game send you the info.  I was lenient last week, but violators will be banned for a couple weeks from this point on.  Thanks!

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Land Sharl Stadium...?

did the williams sisters buy out the naming rights? lol

Laces out!

-2008 AFC East Champions-
Suck it Pats, Bills and most of all... the god damn jets.

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by BSerious72 on Aug 21, 2009 12:44 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

... this place watches one blogger emailing from their personal accounts to another blogger's personal account..?

Wow.

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by Alpha6 on Aug 21, 2009 12:58 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

... I was trying to figure this out...
no supplying of info via e-mail about illegally watching the game

… maybe I read it weird…

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by Alpha6 on Aug 21, 2009 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think he's saying

that you can’t post on here and ask someone to email you with a link to a site that is broadcasting the game illegally.

"Why don't you put that in a memo and entitle it 'Shit I Already Know'!" - Sarge from Red vs. Blue

I can't brain today, I have the dumb.

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by Chupathingy on Aug 21, 2009 10:42 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

OK... I just thought that same thing was said in the first two sentence requests...

… this one seemed to prohibit email to email… as in “no supplying… via email”.

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by Alpha6 on Aug 21, 2009 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ya ill be watching o-line and secondary the most

and i heard JT and JP might not play is this true? =(

a little harsh on the game links? but rules are rules i guess.

"Life's a bi*ch but god forbid the bi*ch divorce me"- Nas
"They ask me what I'm writin' for; I'm writin' to show you what we fightin' for"- Talib Kweli

by Davone_Is_BessT on Aug 21, 2009 2:17 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i don't get how it's harsh

there are a million ways to search online and find them….why should i run the legal risk of getting myself or SBN into trouble?

by Matty I on Aug 21, 2009 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you know Matty,

I noticed that you are basically the only person that enforces the game links thing. Every time I’m over at another blog there are links just hanging out in the middle of the game tread. So good think you abide by the rules because if you didn’t, I have no clue who would run this blog so well.

Don't question my fandominium.
"the notorious D.I.B."- samdaman

by dolphinsinbuffalo on Aug 21, 2009 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

... he IS da-man!

.
Btw Matty… I was just being a jerk on your wording… didn’t go as fun as I thought it would….

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by Alpha6 on Aug 21, 2009 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Matty = Coach Sparano!

BOTH great, not just good!

(To understand, read the Green is a turd post and comments)

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by PhinsTifosi on Aug 22, 2009 8:40 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hey, im Da Man

Self-proclaimed president of the Pat White fan club.

by samdaman on Aug 22, 2009 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

.... and Sam I am too....

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by Alpha6 on Aug 22, 2009 10:34 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

Self-proclaimed president of the Pat White fan club.

by samdaman on Aug 22, 2009 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i try

like I said, I might be less strict if I never got an e-mail from my contact on the Dolphins warning me about the videos I post.

But ever since then, I need to watch what gets posted.

by Matty I on Aug 21, 2009 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

dude it makes sense...

this site is popular now….and connected.

matty is doing his job….if this was his personal site im sure he wouldnt mind.

just kick people emails the day before…dont mention it here….we dont wanna ruin a good thing.

i feel peoples pain…in Tallahassee i had to go to bars during karaoke just to see the game on a 10in screen….and that was our 1-15 season….with no sound….so i know the pain.

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by Rzayo24 on Aug 21, 2009 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol I wasn't saying it didn't make sense.

Don't question my fandominium.
"the notorious D.I.B."- samdaman

by dolphinsinbuffalo on Aug 22, 2009 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

so harsh on henne

pat is 2 of 7 and henne does alot better no credit…if parcells can mold undrafed romo to nfl regular ill take my chances with henne being as good or better….right??/

by CaliPhinsFan on Aug 21, 2009 2:54 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Pat was 2 of 7

But everybody watching the game knew he should have been 5 of 7. 3 balls hit the receivers in the hands and were essentially batted down by that receiver. He only made one bad throw when he was rolling to the left and threw at his receiver’s feet. He is a little slow off of the center, but that is to be expected and he will get better. I liked how fast he looked against the defenders, he just seemed like he was jogging. I think Pat White will be a good quarterback, but dang if he doesn’t look like a 12 year old out there.

I also think Henne played okay, but made some bad decisions. I really hope he pans out and he has a great arm. I like how he was shaking off bad throws and didn’t let it bother him.

What’s the problem with having 2 good young QBs? That is way better than arguing over who is less bad.

Dolphins and Gators baby!

by gatorfin on Aug 21, 2009 7:46 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

damn,

im going to my parents house on tomorrow. im gonna try to sneak in some open thread comments, but it could be risky.

by samdaman on Aug 21, 2009 8:10 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It blows my mind

I was reading a few other articles and blogs and people are already labeling Vontae a bust. A Bust. After 1 pre-season game. Calling for him to be traded for a 2nd round pick. Absolutely mid bottling. You know, when your thoughts are all jumbled like in a bottle?

Dolphins and Gators baby!

by gatorfin on Aug 21, 2009 9:48 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

... that IS ridiculous...

… shows how much they know about learning a position, like corner and reciever… two tough ones if you ask me… positions that normally take a year to get settled into… sometimes two or three…

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"What's the point of getting in a sword fight with a guy you can run away from?" - Chris Doleman

by Alpha6 on Aug 21, 2009 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm really getting sick of the "bust" epithet!

Jason Allen a “bust”….Ted Ginn a “bust”….Vontae Davis a “bust”….Davis will NOT be a bust because no one is going to play mind games with this guy. All he needs to do is to control his aggressive instincts. He’s just a rookie making rookie mistakes (Green, of course, WAS a bust!). Ginn, as I think he will prove this year, will make those folks who keep calling him “bust” eat their words. And Allen? If he really is a bust, blame the Dolphins (present and past administrations)…Saban for drafting him too high, thus misleading the fans; Cameron, for making a safety a CB, and Sparano, for trying him at both slots and settling on CB. He was drafted to be a Safety and he shoulda stayed there. Under the circumstances, Jason Allen has had his mind messed with and is trying to do the best he can in a messed up situation. Leave the guy alone! All you “bust” callers do is bring about a SELF-FULFILLING-PROPHESY!

by snorky on Aug 21, 2009 11:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought Vontae did good for a rookie

I also rly liked your Shaun Smith.

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by TheTealDeal on Aug 22, 2009 8:23 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It depends on what your definition of a "Bust" is?

If you look at where Vontae Davis is right now at this moment, he is at best a nickel back. If that is the case, he will be on the field for about 50% of the defensive plays this year. If your draft philosophy is to say that 1st round draft picks should be starters, then you label him a bust.

As a nickel back, he just became the equivalent of Jamar Fletcher. A 1st round draft pick who is not going to start and probably won’t for many years. Just like when Fletcher was drafted (who was never going to start ahead of Surtain and Madison). The only difference is that Davis had an opportunity to compete for the starting job and failed.

Smith will be here long term. Allen just signed a mult-year deal. Davis is then a nickel back. Davis = Fletcher. Fletcher = Bust.

That, IMO, is a logical arguement.

by ct1361 on Aug 22, 2009 9:32 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hahaha...

I love how Matty is always like “I’ll cut your balls off and feed them to you!!!”…then he follows it with “Thanks!!”..lol makes me crackup

if someone emails someone and never talks about it for 1 sec here….there wont be problems im sure…just ignore anyone asking for a link and refer them to what we will now call :

“THE NO LINKS RULE”

Phinsider Hall of Fame Class of 09' / 2-Time 09' Matty Award Winner

by Rzayo24 on Aug 21, 2009 10:16 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

exactly

but if somebody says “I got a link and I’ll e-mail it to you” or if somebody says “Can you e-mail me a link” – those will get bans.

See – we’ve already spent way too much time and wasted way too many comments talking about this

by Matty I on Aug 21, 2009 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

HEHEHEHEHEHE

lol :P

Phin fan from Germany

by tuscanitunr on Aug 21, 2009 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yea i know you knowits tough though....

fellow phins fans….in the dark….you wanna help.

i’m clean….no threat box here please. last time you showed up at my door with a package….i opened it….and it was a threat box with a dead fish inside….scary stuff

people….DON;T ASK FOR LINKS IN HERE…Those of you who dont know…Matty has actually got emails from phins related ppl telling him stop or they will turn this site into a cricket fan site.

Phinsider Hall of Fame Class of 09' / 2-Time 09' Matty Award Winner

by Rzayo24 on Aug 21, 2009 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I hate golf, too!

But seriously, didn’t the Panthers lose Kemoeatu? Wasn’t he their only run stopper?

Armchair QB's always complete the pass and armchair coaches always pick the right players.

Yes, Larry Little is still the man.

by Tunaflipper on Aug 21, 2009 10:35 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Any news on Roth?

Wasn’t he supposed to be practicing by now? =/

Looking forward to this saturday game. I think our offensive line and secondary will show some improvement. Will be keeping my eye on White as well…he showed a lot of growth potential (specially for someone who was supposedly having bad days in camp).

by Rennie85 on Aug 21, 2009 10:45 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

.... still hurts down there....

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by Alpha6 on Aug 21, 2009 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Any news on Roth?

Wasn’t he supposed to be practicing by now? =/

Looking forward to this saturday game. I think our offensive line and secondary will show some improvement. Will be keeping my eye on White as well…he showed a lot of growth potential (specially for someone who was supposedly having bad days in camp).

by Rennie85 on Aug 21, 2009 10:45 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

was it better for you the 2nd time?

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by PhinsTifosi on Aug 21, 2009 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I dont know about you

but that second time is so difficult and really not worth it.

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"I likem me some UDFAs"

by Phintastic on Aug 21, 2009 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh that was sooo funny...

</ironic mode off>

that’s called a button malfunction.

by Rennie85 on Aug 21, 2009 1:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the button doesn't malfunction,

it’s called operator error.

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by joel311 on Aug 21, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I knew someone was going to say that...

But I’m telling you, this ‘post’ button is evil. It kept reading ‘posting’, but no action…I refreshed the page, no comment was posted. The operator is only partially to blame.

I can’t believe I’m actually justifying my double post. This is worse than arguing about Matty’s ability to block all email communication in the world.

ps.: not a Ronnie fan? hmm…why is that?

by Rennie85 on Aug 21, 2009 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i know it was for me. lol

2009 is a year of respect ladies and gentlemen. Lets get it.

by MrMedic on Aug 21, 2009 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

.... I'm always up for seconds....

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"What's the point of getting in a sword fight with a guy you can run away from?" - Chris Doleman

by Alpha6 on Aug 21, 2009 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Its a buffet line now

"HULU: An evil plot to destroy the world. Enjoy"

by TheTealDeal on Aug 22, 2009 8:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Interesting points

I’ll be looking at the Offensive line production and then the output of London vs Williams, whether it be catches or special teams production… Is the first cut after this game?

Miami Dolphins 2008 AFC East Divison Champions
"I likem me some UDFAs"

by Phintastic on Aug 21, 2009 11:31 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i dont get this London bubble stuff.....anyone with me?

1st of all he is a special teams stud….those are priceless….add on he is a great looking wr project that has shown flashes in the clutch….and he has been a model(pun intended) pro.

Williams is fast as balls….but instead of London no thanks. if we need a return man THAT BAD…well lookie here we have Ted Ginn and his family. we cant waste a spot on a guy if all he does is run 4.2.

i def see London making the team….Williams practice squad or last man on the team instead of maybe a 3rd team OLine guy…if they wanna keep that return specialist then maybe they get crazy and keep 7 wr…because most can do other things well. some teams have Larry Izzo guys who just play speical teams…so its not crazy to keep Williams if he is Hester like.

Cutting London just feels like it would come back to haunt us QUICK. a team like the Lions or 49ers would love to have him…and he’d play well

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by Rzayo24 on Aug 21, 2009 5:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Excited

Ok, so I havent posted in weeks, please forgive me…but not that anyone noticed, lol. I am sooo excited to see this game since I was not able to see the last. Always love how you break it down Matty. I love the way our depth at all positions is looking this year….just still questions along the o-line. And of course, I still need a pic for my profile…maybe my top performer from this weekend’s game will be able to grace my profile??

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by Dragon27az on Aug 21, 2009 2:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Early post game Injury report here....exclusive FUTURE MAN INFORMATION....

Carolina Panthers….entire team…..day to day….(asses kicked)….i knew i was forgeting something last week…thanks a lot Mosul…ur supposted to be my pregame wingman….ahole! we coulda lost cuz that!

lets just all say a prayer for no injuries….thats what im looking for

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by Rzayo24 on Aug 21, 2009 5:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Chance I go to the game...

friend has season tix…might not go….i might have 3 actually….and overall 1 extra…so if i have an extra ticket i will post where to meet me pregame if anyone wants it.

also any game i go to this season i will update my Twitter constantly (@rzayo24)…so sign up now.

never done it via phone before….so ill have to figure that out tonight…any help? sure its easy.

game is on local TV…..so thats cool….i seem to remember past seasons NEVER being on TV live…just taped delay….maybe when you get good the games seem to be on TV more?

Phinsider Hall of Fame Class of 09' / 2-Time 09' Matty Award Winner

by Rzayo24 on Aug 21, 2009 5:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i think u just text a certain phone number

but u have to link ur cell # to ur twitter account first…and u can do that on ur twitter page

by Matty I on Aug 21, 2009 5:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It should be a good game

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by Patssuck456 on Aug 21, 2009 5:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Im looking at the 3rd team OLine guys as the biggest bubble players...

we have so much money in the starters…and so much potential on the 2nd team…that a guy like Ike or Alleman could be expendable. if shit hit the fan and we need a 3rd team OLine guy….then we can get a guy as good as them when we need them.

also having the 3rb we do…Cobbs being a special teams god…i think that gives us flexibility….dont have to keep around a rb that doesnt do anything for us on gameday

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by Rzayo24 on Aug 21, 2009 5:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Dolphins games

This is awesome. I live in Augusta, GA and noticed that the Fins play in Atlanta, Nashville, Jacksonville, and Charlotte this year. Four games within 5 hours drive of me! And I’ve only ever been to preseason Dolphins games! I’ll be going into the fire and the flames of opposing stadiums…..good thing I have a permit to carry….or do you only need that when you go to Buffalo?

by eagle2435 on Aug 22, 2009 1:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

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