True Fans(formerly titled Loyalty)
well i had a question and posted it inside the brett favre post, it only got one response so i guess ill make into a fanpost because i really want to know people's response to it
heres what i asked:
brett favre said something along the lines of: if they are real fans they’ll understand. (regarding angry packer fans)
what do u guys think of this?
personally i think that is ridiculous. i think its the other way around. if they are real fans they should be very angry. IMO a real fan loves loyalty and HATES rivals with all their heart. i think this was disgusting because hes questioning packer fans "fandimonium" while he himself is signing with the enemy to get back at his old team, who’s fans loved and supported him for so many years.
just to add to that id like to point out how JT didnt sell out and go to the pats who were on his **** almost as much as the vikes were on favre's.
o and i saw this picture on windy city grid iron that i thought was hilarious.
props to smudgers for finding/ making this picture.
UPDATE:
the actual words were if they are true packer fans they will understand.
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I think I absolutely agree
I mean it’s pretty ridiculous for someone to say that. Because here’s the deal, do we love the players or de we love the team? The other question to consider is what exactly happened to make the player leave? When it came to Thomas and Taylor I was very sad to see them go and I was kinda pissed at JT. I honestly wouldve probably written JT off until he retired at least if he had signed with the patsies. Why? His only reason wouldve been for more money or a ring. Plus it made sense for him to come back to us.With Thomas I wasnt mad at him at all. The bro got cut and wouldve stayed if he could.
As far Favre; he’s a dick. He put the pack through the ringer and basically did the same thing with the Vikes except now that he’s back. And on a side note I dont care what anyone says about the system he’s in now he knows it so well so hell do better, blah blah blah; If im a vikes fan, Im wishing the season would be over already so we could draft a new qb and not put up with Favre blowing a playoff run again. So in this case if I was a packers fan I would hope Raji snaps both his legs the first shot he gets. Why? because he’s over the hill and he’s too prideful to call it quits. Plenty of other players wouldve loved to keep playing but have given it up because its their time. There’s a fine line between maturity and immaturity. And Favre doesn’t know where that line is.
Formerly known as "Enhalo"
The more I read, the more I lose respect for the guy.......
I have always like the type of player that gives 110% & wears his heart on his shoulder. I use to consider Farve that type of guy. Now, it just seems all to played out ………..phoney. Can’t wait to see him go down in flames !!
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by Ohiofinfan4life on Aug 19, 2009 7:18 AM EDT reply actions
He was the Ice-Man before he left the Packers
Now he’s Old Man Sanders
"HULU: An evil plot to destroy the world. Enjoy"
by TheTealDeal on Aug 19, 2009 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions
He's gonna sail through practice with his pretty red "don't hit me jersey" then, WHAM!
While lying flat on his back he’ll remember why he retired three times.
or was it four…?
Armchair QB's always complete the pass and armchair coaches always pick the right players.
Yes, Larry Little is still the man.
agreed
hope he gets the lights knocked out of him IN Lambeau, that would be poetic justice.
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Well I already responded before
but I’ll do it again. I think what he said was bs. The fans that supported him the most must feel so betrayed from him going to one of their most hated rivals. When I look at it, I think what if Marino decided to go play for the Jets? I would feel so betrayed by a fan of the team he made his career out of. I wouldn’t even be able to respect him.
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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Aug 19, 2009 12:00 PM EDT reply actions
Little kids in Green Bay are forced to burn Farve Jersey's
In other news….
"HULU: An evil plot to destroy the world. Enjoy"
I'm wondeirng
if the coach has the balls to bench Farve if he isnt performing. Can you see him standing on the sidelines with Rosenfels playing and leading his team into the playoffs?
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"I likem me some UDFAs"
he wont benchem
guarantee u will they will make up an injury excuse and let favre get some pity, so he can “gracefully” go back into retirement
"Life's a bi*ch but god forbid the bi*ch divorce me"- Nas
"They ask me what I'm writin' for; I'm writin' to show you what we fightin' for"- Talib Kweli
by Davone_Is_BessT on Aug 19, 2009 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions
What he (Favre) did, is the equivalent of shitting on the Packers and their fans...
… he has betrayed everything Green Bay… he has failed to act in the best interest of erything and everyone who supported him there.
By joining the Vikes, the Packers’ rival, he has publicly dishonoured them…
His treachery is in fact so notorious that his name is now synonymous with traitor, a fate he shares with Benedict Arnold, Marcus Junius Brutus (who too is depicted in Dante’s Inferno, suffering the same fate as Judas along with Cassius Chaerea), and Vidkun Quisling.
That’s my view…
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Do you just root for the laundry?
I still like Wes Welker, I still like Bryan Cox, I got to like them when they were down here, and I really liked the way they play and approach the game, so I wish them good luck in their careers, If a friend transfered to a rival school would you hate them and call them a traitor, or if they went to work for a rival company would you say those things.
If that was true, what would that say about your loyalty to your friends, remember, this is a job for these guys, do you think Favre grew up a Packers fan in Mississippi, our own Tuna has worked for the Jets and Pats, so then isn’t he a traitor, shouldn’t we then hate him, and Pennington as well, unloyal traitors both!
Why do we think we have the right to tell someone when they should stop living their dream, If I thought I could still play, and a team was willing to pay me, I would be there, and I don’t begrudge anyone following their dream, cuz when it’s over, thats it, no more, all done, weren’t we all cheering when Pennington “gave it” to his old team, Favre was shown the door by the Pack, a team he gave his all to, and they decided they were going in a different direction, so is loyalty a one way street, the player has to be loyal to the team, but not the team to the player.
Cut the guy a break, he’s just doing what he loves to do, while he still can, it’ll be over soon enough.
by uncle finster on Aug 19, 2009 1:05 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
title was wrong i admit shouldnt have put loyalty as the title
but it still comes down to was he wrong to say that, the actual question of this post.
plus bryan cox and wes welker to the dolphins are not even close to what favre meant to packer fans. for bryan cox vikes-pacs are like bill-finz of those days. which u said urself said a quote by him like if i got traded to the bills today, id retire tommorow.
"Life's a bi*ch but god forbid the bi*ch divorce me"- Nas
"They ask me what I'm writin' for; I'm writin' to show you what we fightin' for"- Talib Kweli
by Davone_Is_BessT on Aug 19, 2009 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually Cox was
personally attacked by the Bills fans, but he played for the Jets and Pats, and I think still works for the Jets, so it was a personal thing not a loyalty thing.
As far as the question, If they are Favre fans they will understand, I think that is what he meant, just like the Penne sympathizers that root for the Jets, there are plenty of people who think they both were treated unfairly, and there are Jets fans that think what Penne did was poetic justice, so why not Favre.
The thing is DB, I love it when a player says no, I can’t play for that team, they are the enemy, it gives you a nice warm feeling, but at the same time I can’t hate a guy who just wants to play, wherever it may be, after all this is what they have worked their whole life for, this is their dream, this is their career, that’s all I’m saying.
by uncle finster on Aug 19, 2009 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions
i understand he loves playing and all
but i just have a hard time believing that revenge isnt a major part of his return. i think hes coming back for all the wrong reasons, though he does not admit. its obvious hes going to outwardly deny that hes not coming back just to beat the packers. he was embarrassed last year when ted thomson looked like a genius with emergence of rogers and favre looked like an idiot when he failed when it counted most. thats the reason u may sense a little negativity in my post. he told the jets when they released him that he would not play for any team but the vikings…theres just too much evidence pointing toward him not being in it just because he loves to play the game, i may be wrong but its right in front of everyone, no matter how many planned excuses and press conference denials he comes up with it, in the end i still believe he wants to play those two games against green bay, he wants to beat them to get some closure. idk thats just me.
"Life's a bi*ch but god forbid the bi*ch divorce me"- Nas
"They ask me what I'm writin' for; I'm writin' to show you what we fightin' for"- Talib Kweli
by Davone_Is_BessT on Aug 19, 2009 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions
My point is,
what’s wrong with that, Pennington said it had nothing to do with sticking it to the Jets, no one believes that, if someone screws you over don’t you want get back, if they’re willing to pay him, then why shouldn’t he.
by uncle finster on Aug 19, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions
chad pennington is not 40 years old
cp10 still has a career in front of him, and obviously he would want to get back at the jets but he worked just as hard for every other game, brett favre on the other hand came out of retirement after already having all the records, more money then he needs livin in green bay, guaranteed HOFer, nothing left to prove. the only thing left is to get back at the packers which is the wrong reason and he is doing a disservice to the vikings and packers both.
but u do make an excellent point, i just think just because of what favre was to green bay, its incomparable.
"Life's a bi*ch but god forbid the bi*ch divorce me"- Nas
"They ask me what I'm writin' for; I'm writin' to show you what we fightin' for"- Talib Kweli
by Davone_Is_BessT on Aug 19, 2009 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions
But my point is it's about the player, not the fans,
he should be allowed to do what he wants to do, it’s his career, not the Packers fans career, and I can’t see how he is doing anyone a disservice, it’s a game, he is not representing peoples ideology, he’s not a commanding General, he’s not a politician, he’s a ball player, the Vikes signed him, your gripe should be with whoever signed him, if he is as bad as you say isn’t it the Vikes fault.
The guy has never done anything but be a class act in the NFL, if he wants to play until no one will sign him, thats ok by me, hasn’t he earned that right.
Anyway, I’m just sayin.
by uncle finster on Aug 19, 2009 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
at the end of the day
i still think he should not have said if they are true fans they’ll understand. of course he deserves the right to play for any nfl team but he said he only wants to play for the vikings, which is just wrong IMO. i wouldnt cosider him a class act after how many times hes lied and put franchises on hold just so he could decide.
"Life's a bi*ch but god forbid the bi*ch divorce me"- Nas
"They ask me what I'm writin' for; I'm writin' to show you what we fightin' for"- Talib Kweli
by Davone_Is_BessT on Aug 19, 2009 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
It was a good debate
I enjoyed it, nice and civil and everything, CHEERS!
by uncle finster on Aug 19, 2009 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions
=D
thats y i luv phisider
"Life's a bi*ch but god forbid the bi*ch divorce me"- Nas
"They ask me what I'm writin' for; I'm writin' to show you what we fightin' for"- Talib Kweli
by Davone_Is_BessT on Aug 19, 2009 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions
LMAO "phisider"
say it fast and it sounds dirty :>O
by uncle finster on Aug 19, 2009 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions
I liked Bryan Cox a lot... and was realy really pissed he went to the AFC East rivals...
… I thought he was a traitor to the Dolphins for it…
… and if Jason Taylor would-a done the same, oh hell, the shit would have hit this blog like a hippo marking his territory…
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"What's the point of getting in a sword fight with a guy you can run away from?" - Chris Doleman
No... I wouldn't hate my friend, but I'd still give him a rash of shit... specially when we played them...
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"What's the point of getting in a sword fight with a guy you can run away from?" - Chris Doleman
What you said is true, I wouldn’t hate a friend or someone I once rooted for just for joining a team I hate, but it’s the way Favre is doing it…
Its not just the fact that hes playing for vikings now, it’s that he screwed over his own packers. Green Bay gave him the chance to come back out of his retirement but he said no. So they moved ahead with Aaron Rogers, then right before the season starts Favre comes back and assumes he can jump right back on the team and put Rogers back on the bench, but the world doesn’t revolve around Favre.
He then joins the jets, and after a terrible end to the season (woohoo phins) he retires again, claiming he is “done”. Then he decides to come back and the ONLY team he wants to play for his the Vikings.
I can understand if you are traded to a rival or something but if the ONLY team you are willing to play for is one the most hated rivals of the team he played 16(?) seasons for, that is just wrong.
The pack did not screw him over, he screwed with them. His time is done, and hopefully he will realize this once he has another season ended by an interception.
People like Pennington have reasons to be pissed at their old teams, Pennington was flat out dropped because they had no confidence in him there.
But Favre had his chance to return to the Packers, they held the door open for him as long as they could and then he thought he could rejoin the team after camp right before the season starts, he was wrong, you can’t do that
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by ZzzestyCabbage on Aug 19, 2009 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well said!!
… and I agree…
Wasn’t there also a $20 million deal for him not to go to a rival..?
Didn’t he take it too..?
Adjutant General, Matty Fan Club
64 "Phinsider Fued" Points..!!
"What's the point of getting in a sword fight with a guy you can run away from?" - Chris Doleman
No he didn't, and he could of,
what does that tell you, he’s got unfinished business.
by uncle finster on Aug 19, 2009 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions
ya what he said !
"Life's a bi*ch but god forbid the bi*ch divorce me"- Nas
"They ask me what I'm writin' for; I'm writin' to show you what we fightin' for"- Talib Kweli
by Davone_Is_BessT on Aug 19, 2009 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions
solid post
"check that...the 29th of Feb. this year.....why is that the record day for hits? Did Matty have the Kim Kardashian sex tape or something?"
-Treat
"yes he did. and Jersquall recut it to look like Marino was boning her."
-Treasure
... and I liked Welker alot too... but I hate the guys that leave the Dolphins and go to the AFC East rivals...
… there’s been a handful of these guys doing it… and Welker is like the second coming of Brady around the sports media… another “can’t touch this” type guy. So yeah, I get a little pissed about player AND fan loyalty.
Favre was way out-of-line for saying what he did to the Packers fans. And he’slying thru his teeth about the reasons he’s playing for the Vikes!
Adjutant General, Matty Fan Club
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"What's the point of getting in a sword fight with a guy you can run away from?" - Chris Doleman
uncle finster - the voice of reason here!
rec’d because it was so well put.
I will throw one qualifier here though. I wonder if he went to the Vikings purely out of spite for the way GB released him. If that is the only reason, then he needs to grow up.
Obviously that had no bearing on him going to the JJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJets last year.
Attorney General of the Matty I Fan Club
lol just saw this true fan quote is going to be discussed on espn
espn reads phinsider!!!!
"Life's a bi*ch but god forbid the bi*ch divorce me"- Nas
"They ask me what I'm writin' for; I'm writin' to show you what we fightin' for"- Talib Kweli
by Davone_Is_BessT on Aug 19, 2009 1:40 PM EDT reply actions
LOL, maybe they can learn something
that is not about the Pats :>D
by uncle finster on Aug 19, 2009 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions
... Oh excellent SLAAAP!!!!
I love it…!
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64 "Phinsider Fued" Points..!!
"What's the point of getting in a sword fight with a guy you can run away from?" - Chris Doleman
If Favre didn't go through this same song & dance every season for the past half decade and just played
then I say, keep doing what you love while you can. But he’s a giant attention-whore, sobs in his press conferences about how “hard this decision was to come to” and four months later homeboy is shopping himself and telling us that “it’s just not time yet”.
No one knows his true motives, but the way it is being depicted and the way his actions are speaking, it looks like he is doing this to spite the Packers for shelving him and upgrading.
Honestly, i couldn’t care less. He’s acting like the one girl who posts on a video game forum or the slut that walks into GameStop. He just wants attention, and posts like these give it to him. He’s out of our division, and our conference so he’s out of my mind.
"check that...the 29th of Feb. this year.....why is that the record day for hits? Did Matty have the Kim Kardashian sex tape or something?"
-Treat
"yes he did. and Jersquall recut it to look like Marino was boning her."
-Treasure
"posts like this give it to him"
dont come in here and diss my post if your going to write so much in response to it. if ur going to write a response to it, ive done my job as putting a good post that provides a healthy discussion. if u dont like it dont respond.
"Life's a bi*ch but god forbid the bi*ch divorce me"- Nas
"They ask me what I'm writin' for; I'm writin' to show you what we fightin' for"- Talib Kweli
by Davone_Is_BessT on Aug 19, 2009 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions
whoa whoa whoa tiger
I didn’t diss your post, all I said was, posts like these (because there have been a few) bring undeserved attention to a guy who stays in the limelight by being a tool. it’s the interwebs, chill out bro
"check that...the 29th of Feb. this year.....why is that the record day for hits? Did Matty have the Kim Kardashian sex tape or something?"
-Treat
"yes he did. and Jersquall recut it to look like Marino was boning her."
-Treasure
i agree that there are too many brett favre posts
the reason i posted this as a comment first was so i wouldnt have to put another post dedicated to favre. but it got only 1 response and i wanted to know how the rest of the people felt about what he said. and if u did/ did not agree with him. this post was definitely not intended to become a favre hate/love post.
"Life's a bi*ch but god forbid the bi*ch divorce me"- Nas
"They ask me what I'm writin' for; I'm writin' to show you what we fightin' for"- Talib Kweli
by Davone_Is_BessT on Aug 19, 2009 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah it's kinda hard to get comments on stuff unless you post it when traffic is high, cos everything gets lost
but let’s make this a favre hate post. purple is a dumb color.
"check that...the 29th of Feb. this year.....why is that the record day for hits? Did Matty have the Kim Kardashian sex tape or something?"
-Treat
"yes he did. and Jersquall recut it to look like Marino was boning her."
-Treasure
lol finster is puttin up some tough points
but im being stubborn =D
r u readin our debate ^ up there?
"Life's a bi*ch but god forbid the bi*ch divorce me"- Nas
"They ask me what I'm writin' for; I'm writin' to show you what we fightin' for"- Talib Kweli
by Davone_Is_BessT on Aug 19, 2009 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions
i usually agree with finster
but i can’t stand Favre. If he had flat out said at the end of last season; “I think I’ll wait until my emotions have settled to make a decision” then maybe it’d be different. but this game of tag between him & the vikings has been going on for far too long, and between “ZOMG IS BRETT GOING TO PLAY THE FOOZBULLZ WITH THE HORNED GUIZ?!!” and “TOMBRADYLEMMESUCKYOURKNEECAPZ” headlines on ESPN, i’m just fed the eff up, ya knw?
"check that...the 29th of Feb. this year.....why is that the record day for hits? Did Matty have the Kim Kardashian sex tape or something?"
-Treat
"yes he did. and Jersquall recut it to look like Marino was boning her."
-Treasure
LOL!! I know what you mean..!
… and exactly on with the intergrity thing…
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"What's the point of getting in a sword fight with a guy you can run away from?" - Chris Doleman
LOL,
It sounds like your argument should be with the media, and then we’re on the same side again ;^J
by uncle finster on Aug 19, 2009 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
haha yes & no
I still say he should have kept his geriatric trap shut and not said he wasn’t coming back. Dick move IMO.
On the other hand, let’s bring down American media.
"check that...the 29th of Feb. this year.....why is that the record day for hits? Did Matty have the Kim Kardashian sex tape or something?"
-Treat
"yes he did. and Jersquall recut it to look like Marino was boning her."
-Treasure
The media is the root of all evil,
or the route, either way is correct :^J
by uncle finster on Aug 19, 2009 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions
the root AND the route! The media is pure EVIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Attorney General of the Matty I Fan Club
chris, please stop with the damn geriatric crap! add your age AND Favre's and I am older than BOTH of ya combined.
And I REFUSE to play for the JJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJets, Bills OR the Brady!
Attorney General of the Matty I Fan Club
you're old
isn’t it time for nap!?
haha
"check that...the 29th of Feb. this year.....why is that the record day for hits? Did Matty have the Kim Kardashian sex tape or something?"
-Treat
"yes he did. and Jersquall recut it to look like Marino was boning her."
-Treasure
come @ me gramps!!
dirt nap time!
lolol oh the fun we have
"check that...the 29th of Feb. this year.....why is that the record day for hits? Did Matty have the Kim Kardashian sex tape or something?"
-Treat
"yes he did. and Jersquall recut it to look like Marino was boning her."
-Treasure
most people just call me CHL
:)
"check that...the 29th of Feb. this year.....why is that the record day for hits? Did Matty have the Kim Kardashian sex tape or something?"
-Treat
"yes he did. and Jersquall recut it to look like Marino was boning her."
-Treasure
what is the H for? hoe?
Attorney General of the Matty I Fan Club
by PhinsTifosi on Aug 21, 2009 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions
LOL
jk
Attorney General of the Matty I Fan Club
by PhinsTifosi on Aug 21, 2009 11:02 AM EDT up reply actions
hahah
my middle name is far too queer to say haha
"check that...the 29th of Feb. this year.....why is that the record day for hits? Did Matty have the Kim Kardashian sex tape or something?"
-Treat
"yes he did. and Jersquall recut it to look like Marino was boning her."
-Treasure
Homer?
Horacio?
Hummer?
Hurbert?
Humphrie?
Harmony?
Happy?
Adjutant General, Matty Fan Club
64 "Phinsider Fued" Points..!!
"What's the point of getting in a sword fight with a guy you can run away from?" - Chris Doleman
chances are you've never even heard this name
“Hinson”
"check that...the 29th of Feb. this year.....why is that the record day for hits? Did Matty have the Kim Kardashian sex tape or something?"
-Treat
"yes he did. and Jersquall recut it to look like Marino was boning her."
-Treasure
Holy Hannah!!!!
… like the twins… blonde male twins… that sing in a group by the same name….??
…. the Hinson Twins.??
Adjutant General, Matty Fan Club
64 "Phinsider Fued" Points..!!
"What's the point of getting in a sword fight with a guy you can run away from?" - Chris Doleman
haha nooo
that’s HANSON and tht was three brothers
"check that...the 29th of Feb. this year.....why is that the record day for hits? Did Matty have the Kim Kardashian sex tape or something?"
-Treat
"yes he did. and Jersquall recut it to look like Marino was boning her."
-Treasure
yeah my great aunt's, i believe, maiden name
"check that...the 29th of Feb. this year.....why is that the record day for hits? Did Matty have the Kim Kardashian sex tape or something?"
-Treat
"yes he did. and Jersquall recut it to look like Marino was boning her."
-Treasure
My son's first name is my mom's maiden name - Hayes
Somewhere back in my mom’s family tree is President Rutheford B Hayes!
When I wanted to name him that, my ex said that he better not start getting called purple
His middle is my ex’s mom’s maiden name.
Attorney General of the Matty I Fan Club
Hayes is wayy btr than Hinson
shit is gaygay
"check that...the 29th of Feb. this year.....why is that the record day for hits? Did Matty have the Kim Kardashian sex tape or something?"
-Treat
"yes he did. and Jersquall recut it to look like Marino was boning her."
-Treasure
LOL!
Attorney General of the Matty I Fan Club
by PhinsTifosi on Aug 25, 2009 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I lol at the Suckyourkneecapz part
I don’t want to picture the media doing that but i did
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