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Defense leads the way as Dolphins win preseason opener

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I know it's only the preseason, but it's always good to get a win.  On Monday night, that's just what the Dolphins did, knocking off the Jaguars 12-9.  And before I get into all of my initial thoughts on the game, I just got to point out that Jack Del Rio did a very classy move by not kicking the field goal on fourth and goal late in the 4th quarter.  Nobody wants to see a player get hurt in overtime of a preseason game.  So I'm very glad he decided to go for it - and nice job by Courtney Bryan to break up the pass in the corner of the endzone.

Now then, onto some thoughts from Miami's win - both good and bad.  But keep in mind that the first preseason game is essentially just a glorified scrimmage.

THE DEFENSE SHINES
Here's a key stat.  The first-team defense played together for the entire first quarter of Monday's game.  The Jaguars ran 11 plays against Miami's first-team defense.  The Dolphins surrendered just 28 yards of offense on those 11 plays and only one first down - forcing two three-and-outs.  Now that is impressive.

During those three series, they tallied one sack and pressured Jaguars QB David Garrard a couple of other times.  On one play, Channing Crowder blitzed and basically drove the running back picking up the blitz into Garrard's face, forcing an incomplete pass.  But a major reason for the defense's success - including Jason Ferguson's sack (which was more or less a coverage sack) was rookie Sean Smith's performance.  On the particular play that resulted in the sack, Smith did an excellent job keeping Torry Holt - Garrard's primary target on that play - inside of him when Torry was trying to get to the outside.  That's a veteran move by a rookie against a veteran receiver.

Speaking of Smith, he also made a terrific interception in the third quarter of a Todd Bouman pass in the endzone.  The big question scouts had about Sean entering the draft was how he would be tackling players at the next level.  Some said he was scared of contact.  But Smith did not shy away from contact on the only tackle opportunity he had, making the tackle.  All in all, Smith was probably the player of the game for the Dolphins.

Getting back to the first-team defense, there's a lot of concern about how the defensive line would shape up.  Would they be able to effectively limit the opponent's ground game?  Keeping in mind that Jacksonville's offensive line is probably an average unit at best, the Dolphins answered that question with a resounding "yes" on Monday night.  They held the Jaguars to 10 yards on 3 rushes.  A small sample size, of course - but a good sign, nonetheless.

Nate Jones also deserves a mention, too.  He was very good at blitzing from the nickel corner spot last year.  On Monday, Jones showed he still has a knack for getting to the QB as a blitzer, forcing an incomplete pass on 3rd down to end a drive when he got to Garrard.

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OFFENSE PRODUCES MIXED RESULTS
The offense on Monday night was really a mixed bag.  There were good moments.  There were bad moments.  And all in all, I don't think it was really a positive night for the offense.

Heading the list of issues was the offensive line.  In pass protection, the first-team line performed very well.  But we all have been expecting that the Dolphins would be able to run the ball between the tackles in 2009 thanks to the acquisition of Jake Grove and the return of Justin Smiley and Donald Thomas to the field after season-ending injuries in 2008.  But this unit failed to produce on Monday against the formidable Jaguars defensive front.

Ronnie Brown and Ricky Williams combined for just 41 yards rushing on 14 carries - a measly 2.9 yards per carry average.  Brown and Williams rarely had any kind of lane ot run through.  On one play, Jake Long even got beat badly - resulting in a loss for Williams.  I also noticed Vernon Carey getting beat a couple of times on rushing attempts.  This was not the kind of effort I was hoping to see out of this unit and I'll be anxiously awaiting Saturday night for the next preseason game to see if the unit improves over yesterday's performance.

As far as the battle for the starting right guard job goes, neither Shawn Murphy nor Donald Thomas (who rotated in and out) really stood out.  Just from watching the broadcast, I may have been slightly more impressed by Thomas because he seemed to get more push.  But the competition is probably still wide open and likely far from over.

On the plus side, Ted Ginn Jr. looked very good out there on Monday.  He ran some crisp routes - especially on a third-and-one play against Pro Bowl corner Rashean Mathis, running a terrific post and making an exceptional catch.  All told, Ginn looked confident and produced - tallying 2 receptions for 26 yards, one rush for 14 yards on an end-around, and drawing a 30+ yard pass interference call on a long pass attempt down the left sideline from Chad Pennington.  He also had a 15 yard reception called back due to holding - meaning the Dolphins called Ginn's number five times in one quarter.  Not bad for a guy many fans wanted to write off.  Hopefully this early success translates to the regular season.

As for the quarterbacks, neither Chad Pennington nor Chad Henne played very well.  But neither played bad, either.  Pennington made a couple of nice passes, especially his pass to Ginn on 3rd-and-one for 15 yards.  But he was far from classic CP.  Meanwhile, Henne made a couple of notable plays.  His 20 yard strike to Brian Hartline comes to mind right away.  On that same drive, he made a beautiful pass to Ricky Williams on a wheel route in the endzone that hit Ricky in the hands.  But he was unable to haul it in - which doesn't happen often to Williams.  He also connected with Ernest Wilford for a 33 yard touchdown.  It wasn't the throw, though, that impressed me on that play.  You or I could have made the throw.  It's the fact that Henne was under immense pressure and had three defenders bearing down on him.  He stood in the pocket, kept his eyes down the field, and found an open man.  Good stuff.

Of course, Henne was also intercepted on a pass that he had no business making.  But it's the preseason and he's young - so let's not get crazy.

QUICK HITS
Some quick thoughts on Monday's preseason opener:

  • Cameron Wake can rush the passer.  We don't know what else he can do at this point, but he showed great burst and strength when rushing off the edge.
  • Patrick Turner led the team in receptions, catching three balls.  He showed good hands but failed to bring in a pass in which he was surrounded by Jacksonville defenders.  And that's what I'm hoping to see from Turner - the ability to make tough catches in traffic.
  • Eric Green really struggled.  He was targeted numerous times and actually allowed three straight completions at one point.  He's losing ground in the battle at cornerback right now.
  • Vontae Davis didn't perform much better.  He was called for three penalties in the game - two were on special teams and the other was a pass interference call.  You can bet the coaches will rip into him a bit for those.  He also allowed himself to be blocked by a receiver on that screen pass that the Jaguars ran that would have been a TD if not for a holding call.  Davis was being manhandled in the endzone by Tiquan Underwood, a 178 pound rookie from Rutgers.  Vontae has to learn to shed that block and make a play.
  • Brandon London and Anthony Armstrong had quiet nights while Chris Williams made some plays as the return man.  Could Williams actually make the roster as the team's 6th receiver?  Possibly.  He averaged 31 yards on 4 kickoff returns but wasn't as comfortable handling punt returns.
  • We got our first taste of Pat White and it was a solid debut.  He made a few plays with his legs.  He completed only 2 of 7 passes - but was a victim of some drops, including one that resulted in an interception.  But I'm not quite sure why so many are raving over White's debut.  I didn't see anything spectacular yet.
  • Seven penalties are too many - especially when some of them are committed in the redzone.
  • Here are the numbers for the kicking competition.  Dan Carpenter drilled a 48 yard field goal.  However, he slipped on an extra point attempt off the wet infield dirt.  Connor Barth connected on his field goal attempt from 27.  On kickoffs, Carp averaged 67 yards per kick on three kicks.  Barth kicked one for 65 yards.  Just for point of reference, a 65 yard kick is fielded at the 5 yard line; a 67 yard kick is fielded at the 3.  Carpenter was the only one to reach the endzone, with his opening kick going 4 yards deep in the endzone.

So that's all for my initial reaction to Miami's preseason opener.  We'll definitely talk more about this game as the week goes on.  All told, though, it was football - and we can all agree that that's a positive.

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more positives then negatives….and we only have to wait 5 days for the next installment!!!

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by DolPhanDave on Aug 18, 2009 1:03 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Eric Green makes me :(.................

that should look like it is crying. But anyway Great write up Matty, it almost made me feel like I was watching the game even though I wasn’t able to.

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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Aug 18, 2009 1:04 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Carp? Just stick to DC$

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by Patssuck456 on Aug 18, 2009 1:11 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

lol

it’s the Cardinals fan in me coming out. Carp = Chris Carpenter

Won’t happen again….DC$ it is

by Matty I on Aug 18, 2009 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Although Carpenter had a pretty good game last night too.

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by Chupathingy on Aug 18, 2009 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I feel like we got Eric Green because we couldn't get Bryant McFadden

I really don’t want Green to have a roster spot.. Tom Brady will find him or Jason Allen when they are on the field and tear them apart

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by Souwantmyname on Aug 18, 2009 1:12 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I dont think

he sticks around around too long if he plays like he did last night.

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by Phintastic on Aug 18, 2009 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

good

I've been a Dolphin for 17 years, and I'll be a Dolphin for the rest of my life. That will never change. - Dan Marino

by afmo on Aug 18, 2009 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I guess we called that!!!

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by Phintastic on Aug 19, 2009 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

48 yd FG > 27 yd. FG........... 67 yd. Kickoff average > 65 kickoff average

DC$ > Barf

Let’s end the debate for good shall we

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by Souwantmyname on Aug 18, 2009 1:14 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice nice recap Matty!!

I think I saw the same things and feel the same…

Poor poor Green… looked like his mind was somewhere else…

This team is gonna win more games than (other) people think.. (throws a pumped fist in the air!!)

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by Alpha6 on Aug 18, 2009 1:18 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What excited me the most was the way Ginn looked tonight

I will admit I wasnt too excited about getting him at the 9 spot not because of him but I thought we had bigger needs at the time but after watching him last year I couldnt wait to see him take the field I am pulling for him to have his break out year and I really hope he does show the NFL that he is the big threat like we all hope he can be

by Miamiboi84 on Aug 18, 2009 1:23 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

ya i almost forgot how good he was this game

because he only played some of the first quarter

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by Davone_Is_BessT on Aug 18, 2009 1:24 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ginn = # 1 receiver

Matty awesome recap… I felt like I was watching the game as I was reading it.

I saw the highlights of Ginn, his routes looked crisp and he so fast. He should have a great year. But I admit when Cam picked him # 9. I almost throw the TV out the window.

The d-line looked good too…… Can’t wait till the season opener.

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by miami25 on Aug 18, 2009 11:23 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

good stuff tonight

i was very satisfied with sean smith’s performance…vontae no as much but showed some nice physicality…chris clemons appeared to be evreywhere and thats a good thing……both chads looked ok…..pat white was better then his stats show……our first team d looked great….am pumped for this year i think were taking it again lol.

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by thatcoolguy on Aug 18, 2009 1:29 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Can I get a HELL YEAH!!!

for another division title

by Miamiboi84 on Aug 18, 2009 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

HELL YEAH..!!!!!

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by Alpha6 on Aug 18, 2009 1:38 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You bet!! HELL YEAH WE R!!

I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(22 years and counting)

by Aleta on Aug 18, 2009 1:48 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What the hell is that..?! ;-)

… I’m thinking you’re the guy that asks for a hamburger at an Italian restaurant… LOL!!!!!!!!!!

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by Alpha6 on Aug 18, 2009 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Liked what I saw from Chad Henne

If Ricky would’ve made that TD catch, Henne’s stats would pretty much be the same as Tom Brady’s stats.

And hats of to Sean Smith. He’s looking sharp and would not be surprised one bit if he takes the starting spot

by SDefee on Aug 18, 2009 1:43 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Man, I was going to post exactly the same comment...

Henne’s stats would have been identical to the stats Brady posted and everyone is raving about…

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by FinsFromBrazil on Aug 18, 2009 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I guest i was one raving over White!

I will say this! He HAS potencial, Henne look to me like CP10. Didnt saw that SUPER arm ppl r saying he has. What i saw was throw almost to the ground and, almost noddle passes lol. The zip on White was greater than Henne 4 sure.
Matty u said! CP10 and Henne play very well, while White play solid! NOT SAYING star White please!!
Great write Matty, as usual! ; )

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by Aleta on Aug 18, 2009 1:55 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Great write up! My two cents:

1) I would add that Jason Allen looked better than Green, even taking into account 1st team vs. 3rd team.
2) I disagree a bit about White. After all of the negative practice reports, i was surprised at how accurate he actually was with his throws. He also didn’t get rattled, and didn’t get happy feet like so many young “running QBs” do.
3) Williams was a huge surprise to me. He is, by far, the best returner we have had back there, including Bess. Nothing against Bess. Williams had good vision, patience, and balance… and excellent speed once he found a hole. AND, after some rookie mistakes, he made good corrections. I don’t see how he makes the team as a WR, but he has talent.
4) Ginn was impressive. I can see a major improvement in his route running and confidence. Maybe it has just taken him a while to learn how to play at this level?
5) Sean Smith… nuff said.
6) I was disappointed in two things… First, why didn’t they throw the fade to the big bodied WR down inside the red zone? Isn’t that what we brought them in for? Second, why do the cameras cut to the stupid announcers in the booth on 4th and 1, and skip the play? I NEVER want to watch the announcers in the damn booth, but much less when I miss ACTUAL football because of it.

As for the O-Line running game inside… they get a pass from me on this game. They did some okay, but I expect more as they settle that RG spot, and get a little more practice time together. Don’t forget that you still have two new guys, and it will take a little bit… maybe a few games into the regular season, for them to hit their stride. That’s pretty normal, and they did a much better job tonight (IMO) than JVille’s O-line, so I’m not yet worried about them.

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Aug 18, 2009 2:52 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

one more thing...

Henne is going to be very good when he learns to put some touch on the ball, instead of just throwing heaters. I like what I have seen of him every time so far.

-LCFF

by LeftCoastFinFan on Aug 18, 2009 2:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

one more one more thing

how could i forget Ernest Wilford?

I just wanted to say that I still don’t think he did much to help himself, in spite of the TD. I mean the TD was nice and all, but he had blown coverage against 2nd stringers. Wilford did not do anything himself to create separation. He didn’t do any impressive blocking that I saw. He just caught a ball, without coverage or pursuit to speak of….

I am not trying to rag on the guy, but even though he had a TD, I just don’t think it matters all that much.

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by LeftCoastFinFan on Aug 18, 2009 1:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, were you watching the game on the local CBS channel?

Too many times they kept missing plays so they could show the commentators talking.

by luvs2drnk on Aug 18, 2009 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn't sleep on Williams either.

If he continues to shine, they could very well give him a WR spot even if he isn’t a better receiver than one of the other guys. Field position is so important with how our team plays. If you got a guy who can average 30+ yds per kickoff return, it shortens the field for our offense, and keeps the other teams offense pinned to their goaline.

by luvs2drnk on Aug 18, 2009 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i hear ya, but i just don't know where he fits in

WR is crowded right now, and i just can’t see him taking a spot from Turner, Hartline, or London.

And even though I think Cammy might be the odd man out, I don’t see how Williams beats him out at WR either. Based on what I saw last night, Ginn, Bess, Turner, London, and Hartline would be my five guys on the 53, and Cammy would be the 6th, only because of the overlap in skill sets with Bess and Hartline.

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by LeftCoastFinFan on Aug 18, 2009 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hear ya',

But what would you rather have. A good WR in the 5th or 6th WR spot who probably never even gets on to the field each week. Or a great return guy in the 5th or 6th WR spot, who not only gives your team good field position, but can also change the momentum of a game? I’ll give you Cam, Bess, Turner, Ginn, and Hartline. But I think if Williams continues to impress returning kicks, and improves on his punt returns. London and Armstrong could be practice squad or FAs.

by luvs2drnk on Aug 18, 2009 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would have to say

that if it came down between Cam and London, I would say that they would probably keep Cam. The only reason I could see them going with London over Cam is if his knee was acting up.

That being said, Williams will have to continue having good kick returns to take a spot from either Cam or London. He’s got to prove that he can have good returns consistantly, and not just sporadically. And I think he also needs to work on his dodging the kicker technique, that will help out too. =P

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by Chupathingy on Aug 18, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

good write up lefty

couple of comments…

dead on about white…. but i was surprised that he wasnt more explosive running the ball, yes he had some nice runs but he wasn’t about to break one…

yes – allen looked better than green but then allen looked so much better than any of the 3rds out there it makes you wonder why he is out there with them… he is either gone or he gets the message…

Smith had a nice night but lets not go overboard… j-hole isn’t exactly indy or NE when it comes to receivers… no one is really that fast or quick… both of which are suppose to give bigger corners issues… so we’ll see what happens if s smith matches up against him…

boy the first 3 weeks are going to be ugly if green plays…. it didn’t take j-hole long to find him on the field.
I still question why they signed this guy when NE signed 2 CB with better pedigree’s for LESS money…

and not really intending to dreg up the QB issue … but you can not run the ball let alone inside with a QB with below average arm strength…
aint gonna happen… and while some of j-holes ones where on the bench it shouldnt’ be a surprise that the team ran the ball better when henne was in the game.

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So do you think the Jets intentionally did it to set the organization back 3 years or was it just an unintended side effect of their move.

by W NY Fins Fan on Aug 18, 2009 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yep, just blame it all on noodle arm. I am so freaking tired of this nonsense . . .

I thought it was ALWAYS easier to run against 2nd & 3rd string defense. Guess I was wrong since all these CP10 haters jump a;; over CP’s arm strength.

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by PhinsTifosi on Aug 19, 2009 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

except that when henne

entered teh game it was a mix of 1’s & 2’s and the team ran much better after henne drilled a couple passes….

can’t pack the box when a qb can pass outside of it.

Chad Pennington - The Lame Ducker aka the progress stopper.

So do you think the Jets intentionally did it to set the organization back 3 years or was it just an unintended side effect of their move.

by W NY Fins Fan on Aug 19, 2009 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Matty,

you forgot about my boy, J.D Folsom. He had a nice interception.

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by Kdog92 on Aug 18, 2009 6:31 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh and congrats to Wilford, good job

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by Kdog92 on Aug 18, 2009 7:26 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

We know he can catch,

He should stand out in a pre season game playing against 3rd stringers

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by k2oconnor on Aug 18, 2009 10:02 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Run....not...

OL still can’t get any push, could be a long season. I don’t see an upgrade over Satele, though pass protection was good.

If you can’t run over Jake Long’s side, something is wrong.

TH

by oceantracks on Aug 18, 2009 8:07 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I did saw push from Thomas tho!

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by Aleta on Aug 18, 2009 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Grove was not very good.

He needs to pick it up.

by ct1361 on Aug 18, 2009 9:27 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

SHIT, I hope they didn't pooch this signing...

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by Alpha6 on Aug 18, 2009 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sean Smith

was awesome. I tried following Sean in the game when they kept the cam on him long enough and he was draped all over Tori Holt. Holt made 3-4 moves & Sean stayed right with him. I Said few weeks ago, watch this kid, he will definately impress & be our starter come Regular season.
Green looked horrible. He was no where near his reciever & gave up few big plays & Vontae is just plain slow ( mentally )

by miadolph1 on Aug 18, 2009 8:38 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Lets pray he doesnt becoma JAllen part 2 lol

Dontr think so, just a joke!

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by Aleta on Aug 18, 2009 8:58 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nah...

That kid doesn’t look like he’s willing to become JAllen II. Great moves, sticky, looking very comfortable in the field.

I’m just a little disappointed by Davis so far. It’s preseason, of course…but as a 1st-r pick, I expected a lot more (and less silly penalties). He looked too damn nervous.

by Rennie85 on Aug 18, 2009 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I watched a lot of Illini football

living in the heart of Big Ten country and I was not impressed with Davis in college. I don’t remember any teams trying to avoid throwing in his direction. I hope he proves me wrong, but from what I have read (and heard) out of camp, I think he is on the Jamar Fletcher / Jason Allen road to bust.

by ct1361 on Aug 18, 2009 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Glad to see

Us come out of the game apparently with no injuries. Especially on a sloppy track.

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by OntheGo on Aug 18, 2009 9:26 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

At this point (and I know it's early)...

I’d put Jason Allen above Eric Green.

I know they didn’t flash but I liked the starting secondary, they are solid. I think Bell and Wilson are going to make passing up the middle tough.

12-4 in 2009.

by phatfinfan on Aug 18, 2009 9:42 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Tough... as in perilous!!

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by Alpha6 on Aug 18, 2009 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I will give some love to Pat White.

For a rookie that everyone had as a “slash” weapon, he looked pretty good as QB. I can’t wait to see him with a little experience under his belt. The guy can throw.

I’m no QB expert, but it seems that Henne never looks off the defensive backs. He gets locked on the primary receiver. I guess, he didn’t have a lot of time to sit in the pocket and make reads.

12-4 in 2009.

by phatfinfan on Aug 18, 2009 9:55 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If Pennington hits Ginn on the Fly Pattern

it was a sure TD instead of pass interference. Ginn looked explosive on that route and had his guy beat by 2 or 3 steps. The QB has to complete that pass. It wasn’t even that far down field, 35 – 40 yds.

by ct1361 on Aug 18, 2009 10:01 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

shouldn't you really say

if he was able to hit ginn on the fly…. because afterall that is his limitation?
i mean ginn was obviously stopping to wait on the ball…

Chad Pennington - The Lame Ducker aka the progress stopper.

So do you think the Jets intentionally did it to set the organization back 3 years or was it just an unintended side effect of their move.

by W NY Fins Fan on Aug 18, 2009 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was really bumped when I saw that play

Ginn beat his man badly and had to wait on the ball for 2 or 3 seconds.. Looks like teams will be adopting the Ed Reed strategy of never leaving the box since CP can’t hurt you with the deep ball

I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?

by Souwantmyname on Aug 19, 2009 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just thought I'd let everyone know, the game is on again at 4 ET, on NFL Network.

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by Kdog92 on Aug 18, 2009 10:06 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Alright everybody let's all

focus our GOOD karma on the O-line. Let’s be positive with Grove & the guards. Think push, surge, drive, rush.

And screw the NFL network! And comcast, too I got more game info here on the phinsider posting(s) Thx Matty and all!

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by Tunaflipper on Aug 18, 2009 10:10 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Very good Tuna!!
I got more game info here on the phinsider posting(s) Thx Matty and all!

… well said…

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by Alpha6 on Aug 18, 2009 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'll 2nd that as well !!!!

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by Ohiofinfan4life on Aug 18, 2009 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great post Matty!

I was so looking forward to one of your post-game writeups, man it was like a crack addict getting crack into his system after coming off detox… where the hell did that metaphor come from!?

A few comments of mine:

1) I agree with a previous poster that Pat White actually did look pretty good, it’s his WRs that were dropping the passes. But I would go so far as to say that he performed marginally better than CP or Henne, but again he was playing against 3rd stringers. And damn he looks so TINY!!! Feed that kid already!

2) Loved Chris Williams. Let me repeat myself: LOVED CHRIS WILLIAMS… no homo. I started to hate him, but then Tony ripped the kid a new one, and he was fantastic after that. And I disagree with what Griese was saying about how this kid won’t be able to break into the WR ranks. Why do we have to keep him as a WR? Why not a dedicated return man? I would be very happy if they cut Green or J. Allen (or one of the lesser secondary players) to give #87 a spot.

Those were the two main things I wanted to underline. I agreed with everything else you said Matty. And yes, I was shocked when J. Allen showed up tonight (where the hell have you been, and are you here to stay, or just passing through?). Over all I got very excited, and not because we show awesome potential (1st preseason game and all) but FOOTBALL WAS BEING PLAYED!!! Gimme another hit, quick!!!! ;P

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by Malachi V on Aug 18, 2009 10:28 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

LOL

Yep, Pat White looks very tiny. It looks like he’ll break into pieces during a sack, lol. But I hope not.

I’d like to see him in action with our best WRs. Maybe we’ll have a chance to see it during this preseason, I don’t know.

by Rennie85 on Aug 18, 2009 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

After all of the "off target" and "inaccurate" reports White played well.

I was expecting hi passes to be all over the place. Even the FB hit the dude in the hands. He is like a new Flutie only more athletic. White flakes? Sounds too much like dandruff.

12-4 in 2009.

by phatfinfan on Aug 18, 2009 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

who put that lick on the Jags receiver in the first (or maybe second) series

that forced the fumble?

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by chrislucas on Aug 18, 2009 11:01 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

... there was licking going on... I missed it...

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by Alpha6 on Aug 18, 2009 11:06 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

it was all on teh sidelines

cheerleaders licking female fans. you must’ve been getting another beer.

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by chrislucas on Aug 19, 2009 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

what a sean smith.im gonna say it again i see it through this future pro bowler if he starts this year and most likely will. see the problem with davis is that his too aggressive at the wrong time. but his gonna learn let them make the mistakes right now and learn rather make them in the regular season. and ohh one play that had me laughin was how cameron wake got lau flat out on his butt on one rushing plat. ay he might have slip a bit but a was sure funny did anyone catch that, and for the OL our running game gonna be better trust me its pre season. no one wants to get injured. pre season mean pre fun game.

by HeatNspurs on Aug 18, 2009 11:13 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I hope so

neither Ronnie or Ricky could run up the middle… they were testing Grove big time.

by metalhead86 on Aug 18, 2009 11:32 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

DC$

great write up matty. i will add though, your quote “However, he slipped on an extra point attempt off the wet infield dirt.” is a bit misleading.

wet dirt = mud,,,, that stuff was sludgy sludgy mud, lot more difficult to kick off than ‘wet dirt’.

by orandegadsden'shands on Aug 18, 2009 11:52 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

wet dirt is to mud

as hot ice is to water

good point, sir.

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by DolfinPhan on Aug 18, 2009 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lex Hilliard impressed me

At 240 lbs he ran with a quickness and power that makes me think we have a replacement for Ricky when he leaves.

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by DolfinPhan on Aug 18, 2009 11:53 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

He ran hard and had key 1st downs to kill the clock.

12-4 in 2009.

by phatfinfan on Aug 18, 2009 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

1 question: Where do we put him?

Cobbs does everything on the field thus more valuable than Hilliard

I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?

by Souwantmyname on Aug 19, 2009 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

backup fullback?

If we put him on the practice squad again, he will be gone like Jalen Parmalee.

12-4 in 2009.

by phatfinfan on Aug 19, 2009 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah definetly

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by finsxfactor on Aug 18, 2009 7:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm excited about Chris Williams.

If he keeps putting up good numbers returning kicks, he might very well take that last receiver spot away from London or Armstrong. I can’t even remember the last time we had a real threat in the return game, maybe O.J. McDuffie? Plus, this would allow Ginn to focus on being a better receiver. I know everyone keeps getting down on Jason Allen, but I think he comes through this year. I think he finally realizes his job is on the line, and he’ll step up his game.

by luvs2drnk on Aug 18, 2009 12:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm with ya

I think he makes the squad, because he’s gone if they try to put him on the practice squad. I think he might have 3 or 4 TD runs in him. If he can get us to the 35/40 yard line on a consistent basis, i keep him.

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by Phintastic on Aug 18, 2009 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you watched all the returns Hartline was making some fantastic blocks

I’m pumped that we have guys like Cobbs and Hartline who make a difference even when they aren’t playing their natural positions

I probably know Judo! How many of you can make the same boast?

by Souwantmyname on Aug 19, 2009 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pat White has a cannon

Sean Smith is playing lights out, and maybe good enough to start week 1.
Our O-line fared well in passing situations but did not give our boys holes to run through.
Armstrong played OK returning but if theres one way to get cut its to run backwards when u handle a punt at the 5
Teams are testing Eric Green, and he is not proving himself.
Vontae made one bonehead move, I think he’ll be ok, but needs time to progress in the league

Laces out!

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by BSerious72 on Aug 18, 2009 12:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yep, but guess what?

I think Sean Smith might actually be the better CB, and the steal. Here’s to hoping that Davis is just a bit slower developing, but when the lightbulb comes on he is worthy of a 1st round pick.

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by LeftCoastFinFan on Aug 18, 2009 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

definately agree with you lefty

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by PhinsTifosi on Aug 18, 2009 1:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

All In All Happy

Cameron Wake and Sean Smith were the 2 that impressed me the most last night
Eric Green And Vontae Davis were the 2 biggest disappointments . Vontae needs to get that big head pulled out of his rectum . Hopefully Sporano will slap the kid straight .

Offense needs to step up and make some bigger plays and the O-Line needs to gel before the running game starts rollin .

Lookin forward to next game come on Saturday.

by Phinatik on Aug 18, 2009 2:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

lol

just checking in before i head out for the night

by Matty I on Aug 18, 2009 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

well, have a good one then!

i’ll keep an eye on things around here for you!

;-)

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by LeftCoastFinFan on Aug 18, 2009 7:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

One guy who was commentating on the game said it best when describing that "deep pass" to ginn that was called a pass interference
If he could throw it further and in front of him that would have been a completion and might have also been a touchdown

Henne would not have missed that throw. He would have hit a ginn (who had a good 2-3 steps on the corner) in stride and we would have scored. Quite frankly…pennington doesnt have the ability.

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by finsxfactor on Aug 18, 2009 7:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree

that ball wasn’t just underthrown, he actually had to come back to get it. Got air it out and let the speedster go get it.

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by Phintastic on Aug 19, 2009 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

something that pennington is just not able to do

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by finsxfactor on Aug 22, 2009 5:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

pat white

is it just me did he just look tiny out there… didnt look like he belonged … def didnt have the wow factor I was looking for. I dont think hes fast enough to compensate for his lack of size. The only way he’ll make it is if his arm/accuracy takes him there.

by YatilGinnJr on Aug 18, 2009 8:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He may be small, but he definitely has the speed.

It might not be Mike Vick speed, but it was enough for him to evade DL and LBs to get into the secondary. The one wildcat play I saw him run, he got 10 yards, not to mention making one of the Jags LBs look silly.

by luvs2drnk on Aug 18, 2009 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ya this guy can throw, and run

height is the same as drew brees, he has a year to add some bulk then he’ll be set.

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by Davone_Is_BessT on Aug 18, 2009 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i dont think

he can add that much bulk

by YatilGinnJr on Aug 19, 2009 1:30 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol y

players add bulk all the time look at ernest wilford

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by Davone_Is_BessT on Aug 19, 2009 2:31 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

height isn't that much of an issue if he stays in the shotgun

Miami needs to play towards his strengths shotgun pass and run plays

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by Souwantmyname on Aug 19, 2009 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And you'll see that in the regular season....

I think all the new wildpat plays, and spread formation plays they are developing for White won’t be unveiled until the regular season.

by luvs2drnk on Aug 20, 2009 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

matty just to let u no

the nate jones link in the article links to a ram’s wide receiver, not our corner back.

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by Davone_Is_BessT on Aug 18, 2009 11:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I owe you one

for what you said over at the DN. Thanks.

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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Aug 19, 2009 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chris Williams / Ted Ginn

which one of these guys is quicker? Chris Williams definitely added some excitement to the kick-offs, but i think i would leave the punt returns to Bess. Were any passes attempted to Chris Williams during the game, i cant remember any off the top of my head?

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by Phintastic on Aug 19, 2009 12:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

their 40 times are pretty close

but williams has much better lateral speed and change of direction.

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by LeftCoastFinFan on Aug 19, 2009 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think it also has to do with vision.

Williams may be better at reading the blocks and finding the seams. Ginn couldn’t seem to do that.

by luvs2drnk on Aug 20, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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