mondo has some fighting words for finsxfactor
by W NY Fins Fan on Aug 10, 2009 10:50 PM EDT
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before we get to mondo dissing finsxfactor's main crush aka the original maimi ducker, mr check down, ms butterfinger, and current cammeo love crush, john beck...
mondo points out a couple overlooked facts... that although the coaching staff mentioned that henne needs to get work this year in order to be ready to take over in 2011... he is only getting 5% of the first team snaps.
a(lthough it's not in this article but others also is pointing out that the lame ducker isn't very sharp right now and a theme from last year continues ... struggles in the red zone.. )
Mando also points out that henne is unlikely to pass the lame ducker (well isn't that a surpise when the deck is stacked against) because although henne is more gifted the lame ducker has more experience and uses it to his advantage......
but this is the part where the fighting words begin....
Secondly, there has been much criticism of White this offseason and again early in camp because he obviously does not have the strongest arm or most impressive build in the world. The Dolphins talk of changing the bodies of players. They need to change White's body because he resembles my 12-year-old nephew, all scrawny and wiry and looking like a 220-pound safety could tackle him into next week if given the chance.
Having said all that, White, I believe he is already better than John Beck.
Let me repeat that. White is already better than John Beck.
He has better control of the huddle. He is more mobile than Beck. And, seemingly, more courageous than Beck in that he attacks the defense rather than letting the defense attack him. White is more apt to throw down the field than Beck, who became frustratingly timid with checkdown passes.
Yes, Beck has a better arm and probably always will. But what good is a strong arm if you only use it for 5-yard dump passes? Yes, Beck is built bigger and stronger than White. But what good is a bigger body, if Beck rarely put that body in motion by leaving the pocket.?
I would say there is a 60-40 chance White earns playing time in some Pat Package this year. And I'd say he will be more effective in that package than Beck ever was in his rookie year. That package will include passes but also be a lot about running the football, and if you don't believe that check out the video
yup that is some serious Beck dissage and i'm not sure anyone other than Cam, finsxfactor, or a 40 year old byu cougar playing for bmore would challenge.
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Wow. Mondo sticks a knife in Beck and twists it! lol
Cam might have been the worst head coach in the history of the NFL!
by ct1361 on Aug 10, 2009 11:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
beck cudve been a great qb
cam cam destroyed him
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by Davone_Is_BessT on Aug 10, 2009 11:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
good point
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by el presidente 00 on Aug 10, 2009 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
don't know
i won’t argue that Cam set Beck up for failure, but then mondo has beck’s lack of leadership and failure to command the huddle or have the teams respect right on the head… my guess it’s likely that Beck, like everything else Cam did, looked promissing at first but upon closer inspection was just the wrong move and over rated and poorly done.
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So do you think the Jets intentionally did it to set the organization back 3 years or was it just an unintended side effect of their move.
by W NY Fins Fan on Aug 10, 2009 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
IMO the horrendous o-line and the drop happy recievers
along with the huge expectations in a then winless season played with his head. beck was not mentally prepared for the situation and the coaching staff shouldve known that. i am so glad we cleaned out almost the entire coaching staff of that year
plus he had 0 talent around him. in a few of the games we had a guy named samkon gado startin at rb.
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by Davone_Is_BessT on Aug 11, 2009 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you wont hear
me saying anything nice about cam – but beck’s issues go beyond cam….
to quote keith Jackson F U M B L E!!!!!!!
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So do you think the Jets intentionally did it to set the organization back 3 years or was it just an unintended side effect of their move.
by W NY Fins Fan on Aug 11, 2009 12:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
gettin pressure every single play can get a guy nervous causin dumb mistakes like that
beck has issues but all im sayin is that he could have and should have been handled better
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by Davone_Is_BessT on Aug 11, 2009 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
but the guy was fumbling in camp last year when they couldn’t hit him….
and mondo is dead on about the leadership issues.
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So do you think the Jets intentionally did it to set the organization back 3 years or was it just an unintended side effect of their move.
by W NY Fins Fan on Aug 11, 2009 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i guess so
i guess its best we forget all about the 07-08 season lol
except ginn of course!
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by Davone_Is_BessT on Aug 11, 2009 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well we can forget about him
too or at least until henne takes over….
we’ll always have Cobbs anyways…. you cant take him away from Cam.
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So do you think the Jets intentionally did it to set the organization back 3 years or was it just an unintended side effect of their move.
by W NY Fins Fan on Aug 11, 2009 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who gives a shit what Almondo has to say..!!!!!!!!!
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by Alpha6 on Aug 10, 2009 11:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
for that matter
who gives for what you are me say….
at least mondo gets to watch every practice and his info is a bit more accurate then the rest of the phish wrappers…. granted his tude is a little turdy.
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So do you think the Jets intentionally did it to set the organization back 3 years or was it just an unintended side effect of their move.
by W NY Fins Fan on Aug 10, 2009 11:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well said
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by finsxfactor on Aug 11, 2009 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
here i call you out my friend
and that is all you have to say for your man crush err merry like idol?
i have to say i’ve very sad, and not very gay …. when i did this all for you….
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So do you think the Jets intentionally did it to set the organization back 3 years or was it just an unintended side effect of their move.
by W NY Fins Fan on Aug 11, 2009 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so thats how is up top enteresting!
by wild zion beaver on Aug 11, 2009 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so thats who is up top thats very interesting
by wild zion beaver on Aug 11, 2009 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
your typing editing has a long
way to go before you are as bad as me WZB …
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So do you think the Jets intentionally did it to set the organization back 3 years or was it just an unintended side effect of their move.
by W NY Fins Fan on Aug 11, 2009 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha w ny-- to really get finsx goin your next post needs to be diss britt
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by el presidente 00 on Aug 10, 2009 11:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah when i saw this
i figured it would likely gets finxfactor banned until the start of the year because he’ll be so worked up….
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So do you think the Jets intentionally did it to set the organization back 3 years or was it just an unintended side effect of their move.
by W NY Fins Fan on Aug 10, 2009 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hahaha
El Peezy... "the Calvin Johnson of rookies.. instant impact" -Prime Time
"el peezy strikes fear in opponent bloggers hearts" -finsx
"El Peezy is a man of the people...Don’t hate the player – hate the game." -KC
by el presidente 00 on Aug 10, 2009 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heyy WnyFF, let finsx soul search for a spell. He needs it.
In the meantime, explain what Henne can do better than Pennington other than the deep ball?
Nothing, I say.
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by Tunaflipper on Aug 10, 2009 11:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
well - how about throwing outside the hash marks
and it’s reported taht he thows the out at 15 yards better than any QB since #13….
and all of that spreads the defense which opens up the running game…. which is where the REAL talent is on the team… Henne might not be the best QB on the team(right now anyways) but his strengths let the team USE it’s best assets….
so why are you so afraid of giving henne a chance? you did see the lame ducker in the playoffs and against other good D’s last year… awful?
Chad Pennington - The Lame Ducker aka the progress stopper.
So do you think the Jets intentionally did it to set the organization back 3 years or was it just an unintended side effect of their move.
by W NY Fins Fan on Aug 11, 2009 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
u just dont take a guy who was second in mvp voting last year out the game
we are in a win now mode and penny atm gives us the best chance. u keep mentioning that one game against one of the best defenses in the nfl. and even that game can be blamed on the o-line more than penny
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by Davone_Is_BessT on Aug 11, 2009 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your talking physical strength's and you're right.
But that’s less that half the game. I’d like to see Henne in all season long. AS a MATTER of FACT, I think this idea of one QB is ALL mental. Humans are smarter than rats. We can all be conditioned to follow the maze -to get the (big) cheese.
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by Tunaflipper on Aug 11, 2009 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
not at all - i'm talking defenses
and development…
two points – peyton manning is frequently quoted as saying he wouldn’t be where he is now nor would he have had the same success his 2nd year had he not started every game as a rookie… so with that in mind everyone talks about Henne not being as good now… my questions always becomes who would be the better option once Henne plays 5 games???
and second – i evauate an offense on how other teams play against them… and it’s pretty clear or at least is was last year that DC’s feard miami running the ball last year – on almost every 1st down last year there was 8, 9, or 10 players in the box…. what does that tell us…. they were willing to stuff the box knowing that it was unlikely that they would be beat in other areas…. so if you put in a qb that can go over teh top of the LB’s and can throw outside the hash marks… it becomes much more dangerours to pack the box.
I know this, you know this, and the coaching staff knows this, but for some reason they continue with the 500 w/l qb, which tells us that henne is either a flop and we need to be prepared to live through 3-5 more years of search and development, we need to hope pat white will be the answer, or the coaching staff while willing to take chances with the young guys at every other position is much too afraid to go 4-12 and develop a QB who is ready lead a team to greatness, knowing that 4-12 or worse can get you fired where as 9-7 gets you another year.
Chad Pennington - The Lame Ducker aka the progress stopper.
So do you think the Jets intentionally did it to set the organization back 3 years or was it just an unintended side effect of their move.
by W NY Fins Fan on Aug 11, 2009 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Defense & Development?
Nahh, Peyton’s (whom I don’t very much like) might be an exception. Who else is? What of Steve Young? Brady didn’t play his 1st year. Getting a QB’s mind right might take a coupla seasons. Maybe Henne, maybe White. But we have Pennington now.
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Forcing a team forward with a QB who didn’t lead you out of the morass might exponentially drop the teams moral/attitude/confidence. Changing if you have to is a far better psychological maneuver. Greise to Morrell?
An offense can better adapt that way.
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by Tunaflipper on Aug 11, 2009 12:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh there is almost and endless list of great QB's
who start early…. marino, elway, montana, both mannigs, big ben, palmer takes over season two…. the reality is the good ones learn while they play and learn from their mistakes to get better, while the ones that don’t have it disappear…. (say beck)…. it boils down to leadership… if the guy can command respect in the huddle while he is young and learning then he will likely get the time needed to hone his game… (don’t forget steve young played in the usfl …. so he falls more in my camp…)
I always go back to this…. cassel stunk for the first 5-7 games and he spent years behind his best friend and the best player in the nfl…. then all of a sudden the game got easy for him…. what was the difference between the game 1 meeting and the game 2 meeting …. 7? extra games of actual game experience for him taught him to be a good qb…. sitting and watching only gets you so far.
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So do you think the Jets intentionally did it to set the organization back 3 years or was it just an unintended side effect of their move.
by W NY Fins Fan on Aug 11, 2009 1:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Couldn't Agree More!!
I always go back to this…. cassel stunk for the first 5-7 games and he spent years behind his best friend and the best player in the nfl…. then all of a sudden the game got easy for him…. what was the difference between the game 1 meeting and the game 2 meeting …. 7? extra games of actual game experience for him taught him to be a good qb…. sitting and watching only gets you so far.
Well Said!!
by ct1361 on Aug 11, 2009 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sitting and Watching can help...
There’s quite a few good quarterbacks that DIDN’T start right away, either.
The first one that comes to mind is that douchebag Tom Brady.
Not to mention Hasslebeck and Warner, both of whom have been to Super Bowls, Warner winning one. Philip Rivers has been one game away from the big dance two years running. Aaron Rodgers had a much better season than record indicated, throwing for 4,000 yds and 28 TDs.
Frankly, there is no one sure-fire blue print for a stud QB. However, I would rather have a young QB learn on the bench before getting thrown into the fire. For every great QB that started early, there are many more busts. For every Peyton Manning or Ben Roethlisberger, there is a Ryan Leaf or Tim Couch. Or you could also point to guys like David Carr and Joey Harrington, who came in too early, and developed bad habits that have never been fixed. You’re watching this happen with Tavaris Jackson in Minnesota right now.
by rroan28 on Aug 11, 2009 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well we can go round and round on this one
because you are right the individual makes the difference… and maybe the staff around him … however a couple points….
brady started season 2 and he spent his first season as the 4th qb and played ST… so i’m not too sure how much his first season counts…
2nd rodgers stunk last year (just ask a GB fan… i work with a couple die hards who watched every game) rodgers got most of his stats in a couple games or when the game was gone… in the close games, the 4th, and in the games they needed to win he fell off the earth… so look for someone else.
warner – i believe started his rookie year in the NFL – yes he had the arena league but he may fall more in my camp.
leaf would have failed had he sat for his career… character issues are at fault and recent arrest further prove this…
but in listening to actual QB’s and good ones on top of that (say google P manning or J Elway) they all talk of the invaluable experience they gained by playing as rookies that helped them become the QB’s they were in spite of the fact that they struggled and had to overcome some issues.
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So do you think the Jets intentionally did it to set the organization back 3 years or was it just an unintended side effect of their move.
by W NY Fins Fan on Aug 11, 2009 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It can go either way. Depends on the man.
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by PhinsTifosi on Aug 11, 2009 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
exactly right
so it’s best to go with the guy who will give the team the best chance to win the super bowl (maybe not this year but if he plays this year maybe next) and if henne is a flub then it’s best to know now while the team is rebuild than before the team has peaked and they have to develop a new QB while the rest of the team is ready…. (ala Bmore under boeller)
Chad Pennington - The Lame Ducker aka the progress stopper.
So do you think the Jets intentionally did it to set the organization back 3 years or was it just an unintended side effect of their move.
by W NY Fins Fan on Aug 11, 2009 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This line is the part that scares me about Henne
but for some reason they continue with the 500 w/l qb, which tells us that henne is either a flop and we need to be prepared to live through 3-5 more years of search and development
If Henne was showing anything in practice, OTA’s, etc. I believe this coaching staff would do everything in their power to make him the starter this year. Not only does Pennington have a lame duck for an arm, he also has a lame duck contract. If Henne were performing better there is no reason not to start him in ’09. But he is not. And that is the scary thing.
Henne should know the playbook. He should know the checks. He should know the audibles. But he can’t make the plays. Kellen Clemens (the Great Kellen Clemens) beat out Pennington with the Jets in ‘07. If Henne isn’t as good as Kellen Clemens, then the fins are still a long way away from finding a franchise QB.
by ct1361 on Aug 11, 2009 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
exactly
but a couple of points… henne started camp very slow last year and came on as the camp progressed.
two – he’s playing with the seconds (only %5 with the firsts is BS) and he is likely suffering through turner and hartline learning the offense… you rarely hear him making throws to ginn/bess/cam…. hence it’s hard to entirely blame the QB….
finally i don’t think the staff has the balls to put henne in… the safe play is start the lame ducker and if he struggles they can justify the change …. but the staff won’t risk their rep (a la wanny) of putting in the new guy and have him struggle and then go back to the lame ducker and have to say you all vets were right … he wasn’t ready…. which is why bringing in the lame ducker was a big mistake in the first place because now you are turning over the team to a guy who hasn’t done a thing 3 years into a rebuilding process and you have to go at least a year with him on the learning curve before you know what you have.
Chad Pennington - The Lame Ducker aka the progress stopper.
So do you think the Jets intentionally did it to set the organization back 3 years or was it just an unintended side effect of their move.
by W NY Fins Fan on Aug 11, 2009 9:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Couple of counter points
1) IMO, Henne started slow in camp last year because he was a rookie and was getting used to the speed of the nfl. He shouldn’t have that excuse this year. He did get better as the camp went along, but that is expected for rookie QB’s
2) Playing so much with the 2nd offense is another indication that he is failing to convince the coaching staff that he can play at this level.
3) Maybe i am being an idiot, but I refuse to believe that this coaching staff can’t see the problems with playing Pennington. I am not the smartest football mind on the planet, but I do know the game. There is no way that the coaching staff could watch what was happening on the field in last years playoff game and realize that a Pennington lead offense could beat the Ravens. I was at the game and watched what was happening. Pennington physically could not take advantage of what the raven defense was giving to the offense.
And all the people who defend Pennington on this site and other places will say “the offense was ineffective”, “it’s a team game”, “you can’t blame one player”, etc. But only one player on offense throws the football, and that is the QB. And when the defense is giving the WR’s room to run 10 yd outs, 17 yd sideline comebacks, 25 yd fades along the sideline, and the QB can’t get them the ball when they are open, whose fault is that?
by ct1361 on Aug 11, 2009 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's nice to have a discourse around here....
classy as always CT….
but I refuse to believe that this coaching staff can’t see the problems with playing Pennington. I am not the smartest football mind on the planet, but I do know the game
oh, i’m not saying they don’t …. i believe when they annouced that henne would take over in 2010, they mentioned (through and anonymous source) that ginn likely won’t develop into a quality receiver until henne takes over…
what i’m saying is that they are trapped… they can’t turn the team over to henne and have the team struggle without turning henne into clemens… i’m pretty sure they are aware that they are going to struggle especially early (you don’t change 5 guys in the secondary and expect to improve right away) it’s just that they need to let pennington fail before they can make the change and they didn’t have the balls to turn the team over to henne in 2009, without losing the veterans on the team… you know all that BS we heard with wanny and then again with cleo…. the vet gives us the best chance to WIN this game…. not we need to start the guy who likely will give us the best chance to win in 5 games.
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So do you think the Jets intentionally did it to set the organization back 3 years or was it just an unintended side effect of their move.
by W NY Fins Fan on Aug 11, 2009 11:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Beck was a joke
Cam can have him over in Baltimore, he wasn’t a loss to the Fins
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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Aug 10, 2009 11:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
DUCK
i’m only passing along what mando wrote, whereas you are taking shots at his beloved… finX is going to be gunning for you now.
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So do you think the Jets intentionally did it to set the organization back 3 years or was it just an unintended side effect of their move.
by W NY Fins Fan on Aug 11, 2009 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Want me to act like I'm afraid?
ohhhh noooo someone is going to get made because I made fun of John Beck, I’m soooooooo scared lol come on. Mando was right. I almost threw a house party the day Beck got released.
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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Aug 11, 2009 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol that should say mad not made.
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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Aug 11, 2009 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow dude celebrating at somebodies elses unemployment
real classy
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by Davone_Is_BessT on Aug 11, 2009 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ha what? he got signed by the Ravens. But I'd still be celebrating even if he didn't get signed by anyone
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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Aug 11, 2009 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
uh u said u celebrated when he got released… not when he got signed.
and u juz admitted u wud celebrate if noone signed him- hed be unemployed.
thats just wrong IMO
but hey i guess the standards to be a dolphins fan have dropped.
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by Davone_Is_BessT on Aug 11, 2009 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't know you have to qualify to be a Dolphins fan
I think it is a personal selection and how I feel about a jobless Beck has nothing to do with it. So I apologize for not talking to you before I chose the team I support, just to make sure you approved on how I felt about jobless NFL players.
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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Aug 11, 2009 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i guess standards wasnt the right words to use lol
but damn somebodys gettin a lil bitchy.
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by Davone_Is_BessT on Aug 11, 2009 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well you are making it out to be
like I’m sitting here making fun of unemployed people. He made how many million a year to not do anything? He was no use to the team which would mean he would need to leave.
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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Aug 11, 2009 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and I was happy he was gone
because it meant money could be spent on people that were going to do something.
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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Aug 11, 2009 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ah u conveniently forgot to mention that
in ur original comment
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by Davone_Is_BessT on Aug 11, 2009 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think we can all agree
that, as Dolphins fans, it was a good thing that Beck was released.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Aug 11, 2009 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes i agree
juz felt sorry for him cuz it wasnt ENTIRELY his fault and his career mite have been messed up.
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by Davone_Is_BessT on Aug 11, 2009 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ehh
Doesn’t matter whose fault it was, the bottom line was that he couldn’t get it done. There’s a million stories about QB’s like him that couldn’t cut it, and it’s never solely on their shoulders, but at some point, can we all just agree that Beck was just not very good, and no amount of coaching or blocking was gonna make him the All-Pro people wanted him to be?
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by Little Nicky 21 on Aug 11, 2009 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with you
we moved on and the team is doing fine. It’s not personal, it’s just business.
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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Aug 11, 2009 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ya we dont need him now
but i still believe beck wouldve been a good qb if he had not been put in that situation in 07-08
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by Davone_Is_BessT on Aug 11, 2009 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he went to college
he would have been fine even if it was all over
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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Aug 11, 2009 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no we cant
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by finsxfactor on Aug 11, 2009 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dunno
it’s hard to feel sorry for a guy who got paid 6 figures + to play a game for a living. I could feel bad for a guy who got injured and his career ended, but a guy who just wasn’t good enough, hell, nobody feels sorry for them.
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by Little Nicky 21 on Aug 11, 2009 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well said
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by Little Nicky 21 on Aug 11, 2009 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
easy there
i’d end this if i were u guys
by Matty I on Aug 11, 2009 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oooo snappp
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by el presidente 00 on Aug 11, 2009 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lolol its all good =D
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by Davone_Is_BessT on Aug 11, 2009 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by Little Nicky 21 on Aug 11, 2009 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol well what do you expect me to say when
how I feel about something means that the Dolphins are lowering their standards for fans? Well I’m sorry I’ll go support a team with even lower standards? haha come on
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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Aug 11, 2009 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow way to be a jackass
so pretty much what you are saying is that since I believe in beck, that I am a “lower-standard” of a fan
wow…
now who deserves a threatbox/ban matty?
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by finsxfactor on Aug 11, 2009 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, DIB was responding to a comment saying that he (DIB) was a lower standard of fan.
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by PhinsTifosi on Aug 11, 2009 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thank you for clearing that up
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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Aug 11, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that comment had nothing to do with you
he was defending himself
by Matty I on Aug 11, 2009 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and thank you also
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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Aug 11, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd watch dolphinsinbuffalo's tone and attitude and personal attackage to numerous members of phinsider
If I were you
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by finsxfactor on Aug 11, 2009 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
X man, I look at it like this - Beck is gone & not coming back.
Why get yourself all worked up over something you have no control over?
You have made it very clear that you think Phins should have kept Beck. (I do not know if I agree or disagree with that opinion).
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by PhinsTifosi on Aug 11, 2009 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Parading around because somebodies job/contract was terminated is never...never a great thing to do.
Beck has the tools and if given the oppurtunity (not a biased one, or one that had no team/o-line) then he will show everyone how good he is
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by finsxfactor on Aug 11, 2009 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
2 things
1 – The way I read DIB’s comment was that he was happy that Beck was gone from the Phins, not that he parties ’cause someone loses their job.
2 – I’ll take your word on Beck’s abilities, (I have no opinion either way), all I am saying is that he IS gone & he ISN’T coming back, so why get your titties in a wringer over it?
We, (as in all the posters here at Phinsider), agree to disagree many times here. That is no reason to get all worked up.
I, (& I think most if not all others here) love you X, ’cause you do have good things to say.
Why can’t we stop this hating on each other over someone who isn’t on the team anymore? We argue enough about guys that ARE still here!
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by PhinsTifosi on Aug 11, 2009 7:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thank you PhinsTifosi...
this was basically all settled last night. I was arguing with Davone_Is_BessT on the context of what I said. We cleared it up on this post and in the CKC. What I said may have seem like it was in poor taste but I didn’t exactly mean for it to sound like that. So thank you for understanding that and coming to my defense while I was not here and able to do so.
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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Aug 11, 2009 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am pretty sure I understand you DIB, even though I haven't been here that long.
I hate when people misread / misunderstand what is said and then escalate from there.
I got your back DIB.
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by PhinsTifosi on Aug 11, 2009 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah I got yours too
I understand how what I was saying could make me seem like some real jerk but we cleared it up last night. And to be a jerk wasn’t my intention. I didn’t like Beck on the Dolphins and that was basically what it was about, it is hard to joke in type-face.
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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Aug 11, 2009 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
first person to figure out how to type in joking will make a fortune!
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by PhinsTifosi on Aug 11, 2009 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol yes they will
that would be great to have though…the ability to have people understand typed jokes that are easily identified in person.
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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Aug 11, 2009 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if u dont react they wont react be cool peace!!!!
by wild zion beaver on Aug 11, 2009 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll use your advice next time
Thanks
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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Aug 11, 2009 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that would be a true capitalist
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by Tunaflipper on Aug 11, 2009 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
while i agree with you
i’m not too worried about j beck making ends meet… I believe he made more in his dolphins career than the average american makes in about 30-50 years. so i’d agree with you if he is making fun of gm workers losing their jobs, i’m not going to get too worked up about a guy who walked away with ~3 mil getting let go.
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So do you think the Jets intentionally did it to set the organization back 3 years or was it just an unintended side effect of their move.
by W NY Fins Fan on Aug 11, 2009 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i see what you mean
but its still hard to be unemployed and maybe not be able to play the game u love and worked so hard to reach the highest level.
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by Davone_Is_BessT on Aug 11, 2009 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sure he can work at McDonalds because his football throwing wasn't up to
the Miami Dolphins standards. Actually he lacked leadership, so it looks like he won’t be a manager any time soon.
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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Aug 11, 2009 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thats really not funny
i read somewhere courtney bryan worked at arby’s last year
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by Davone_Is_BessT on Aug 11, 2009 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you have that right
first off the guy is from buffalo – so don’t bother trying to explain morality and civility to him…. buffalo is a city short a C and a L inorder for them to have Class…. they all are and if you expect otherwise well ….
and those are the guys who a feel for when they don’t make the team, cause beck will be ok…. bryan will be back at arby’s if he doesn’t hang on.
so i guess what i’m saying is, you’re right that it is tasteless to “throw a party” when someone has misfortune but its a little misplaced when the misforturne really isn’t that lifealtering (a la beck)
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by W NY Fins Fan on Aug 11, 2009 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if it wasn't a joke
then it would have been a problem. I wasn’t seriously going to waste money to throw a party for some QB that got released.
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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Aug 11, 2009 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and I don't live in Buffalo so don't call me and minus c and l in class
if you catch the drift.
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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Aug 11, 2009 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This coming from a guy who
a-lives near Buffalo
b-lives to see Chad Pennington fail who would throw a party if he was released
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by rangerjae on Aug 11, 2009 8:24 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
uh I like Chad Pennington?
And don’t want him to be released?
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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Aug 11, 2009 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL not you dib!
the other guys W NY Fins fan
YOu can smell the hatred off of him whenver the word Pennington is mentioned
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by rangerjae on Aug 11, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
*whenever
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by rangerjae on Aug 11, 2009 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol yeah I realized you didin't mean me after I posted my comment
I was laughing though because I was thinking to myself “I like Pennington” lol I was worried I was coming off as a Pennington hater. But now I know
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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Aug 11, 2009 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow
just make stuff up….
just because i live in W NY doesn’t mean i live near buffalo – open an atlas at some point…
and when did i ever say i would celebrate the jets release – i do wish every day that he starts for the jets, especially against my beloved dolphins but at no time did i ever say i would rejoice in his misfortune and you are sick to believe i would and to think that anyone would rejoice in anothers misfortune.
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by W NY Fins Fan on Aug 11, 2009 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he just doesnt realize what cp truly is
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by finsxfactor on Aug 11, 2009 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah. I'm not sitting here making fun of people that work regular jobs that lose them
you could all call me crazy if I did that. The guy wasn’t right for this team and I don’t think he was right for any team. If he was working a regular job then I wouldn’t be having a riot thinking about it.
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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Aug 11, 2009 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah but
you are still making fun of someone elses misfortune. it’s not a war crime kind of bad, but it is tasteless.
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So do you think the Jets intentionally did it to set the organization back 3 years or was it just an unintended side effect of their move.
by W NY Fins Fan on Aug 11, 2009 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
whatever. It was some QB that wasn't good enoguh for the team
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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Aug 11, 2009 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
there you go
we try to help you out, but letting you know when you are being an >>>>>
and you dismiss it as someone unimportant because the “guy isn’t good enough”….
hey buffalonian …. it’s you we are discussing not beck.
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by W NY Fins Fan on Aug 11, 2009 1:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This would be well and good
If you weren’t the same guy that lives to see Pennington go down in flames!!!!
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by rangerjae on Aug 11, 2009 8:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
once again
i fail to see what my saying the lame ducker is an average QB has to do with the guy celebrating others misfortune.
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So do you think the Jets intentionally did it to set the organization back 3 years or was it just an unintended side effect of their move.
by W NY Fins Fan on Aug 11, 2009 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it was done with last night...let it go
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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Aug 11, 2009 10:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Beck stinks
hard-hitting journalism again by Armando lol
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by Little Nicky 21 on Aug 11, 2009 12:27 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
u gonna stick around tn?
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by el presidente 00 on Aug 11, 2009 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm here lol
get a CKC going peezy
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by Little Nicky 21 on Aug 11, 2009 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
its up
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by el presidente 00 on Aug 11, 2009 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
IMO the Beck debate is a little ridiculous,
because how in the world can anyone come to a conclusion after 5 games on a awful lame duck 1-15 team in his rookie season, I can give you a list of HOFers that were worse in their rookie seasons, and they played on better teams.
Bottom line, there is just not enough evidence to come to any conclusion regarding Beck, it’s just guessing at this point.
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by uncle finster on Aug 11, 2009 1:02 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
well it's five games
then a whole season…. and mondo is pointing out something no one really ever acknowledges that beck never had the respect of his team mates…. don’t know if he ever did but it clearly showed when he was yanked for cleo.
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So do you think the Jets intentionally did it to set the organization back 3 years or was it just an unintended side effect of their move.
by W NY Fins Fan on Aug 11, 2009 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
in one case he's hands were to small, on the other hand way to many injurys!
by wild zion beaver on Aug 11, 2009 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What injury's?
Hands too small?
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by uncle finster on Aug 11, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think matty put the "small hands" myth to bed
i don’t remember which post, but beck’s hand size wasn’t the problem
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by chrislucas on Aug 11, 2009 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hows this?
John Beck didn’t do shit! He was held accountable and released.
New topic?
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by rangerjae on Aug 11, 2009 8:31 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i'll comment first, and read this long winded post later =)
good 2 C U westy!! gettin ready for the in season, post game disput…… err… discussions?
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Aug 11, 2009 11:32 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
good to see you too
yup i’m getting amped up and yet i have that nagging feelign kind of like when cam ran the show that come game 4 i’m going to be pissed and yelling for a change in QB.
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So do you think the Jets intentionally did it to set the organization back 3 years or was it just an unintended side effect of their move.
by W NY Fins Fan on Aug 11, 2009 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
okay, not my comment on the post
LOL!!!
All i can add to that is “Quack!”
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Aug 11, 2009 11:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Beck's real problem
was how he handled the pass rush. The guy simply looked scared under center. My mind still goes back to those two games against Buffalo and Jets where he made back to back fumbles and ints. They knew that an aggressive pass rush would rattle him and they were right. He does have a good arm, and is a very hard worker but the intangibles (leadership, etc…) just weren’t there.
It hurts losing a high 2nd round pick, but it certainly wasn’t the first time we did it (Feeley, Culpepper)..
by liberty513 on Aug 11, 2009 11:44 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ridiculous.
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by finsxfactor on Aug 11, 2009 6:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I would much rather have john beck leading this team than a good-for-nothing progress stopper such as Chad pennington
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by finsxfactor on Aug 11, 2009 7:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
hehehe sprinkle some wood chips we gona have us an old fashion bonnfire wahooooooo!!!!!!!
by wild zion beaver on Aug 11, 2009 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Somebody is gonna go up in flames - that's for sure.
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by Alpha6 on Aug 11, 2009 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its just so funny how most, if not all, of you guys have quickly just bam changed your mind. There was a resounding majority last off-season who felt that John Beck was indeed their franchise qb.
http://www.thephinsider.com/2008/6/21/556327/i-have-been-wondering-this#6931797
First lets settle on one thing. He does have the tools to succeed. Some people will right away claim “he has no arm strength! He cant throw it down the field at all. He’s just noodle arm part 2.”
FALSE
Look at this throw..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHBy7uIV_iE
Noodle arm no more. Or quack or any of that bull. Because It’s simply just crap
Then theres the whole ability to play the game and what not.
In his college career he had a 69.3 completion percentage, an average qb rating of 116.3, and a td-int of 32:8.
He consistently showed accuracy, anticipation, and a drive to win. He excelled on a team with absolutely no surrounding talent where his “best” reciever went undrafted.
If you want to bring up other things such as Handsize and what not. Go here. Nicky outlined a few false rumors.
http://www.thephinsider.com/2008/6/30/561917/john-beck-myths
Here’s a good summary on his draft day evaluation, by our good friend Jaws.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MflFK7Q0o9E
Now first season into the NFl. You can bring up how he fumbled or how he seemed to not be up to speed with the nfl and kept relying on “dumpoffs”. Do you remember that season? Relatively no production in his recievers, piss-pour running game, and an O-line that seemed to have more holes than a sponge. Like my goodness he would take the snap and a defender would already have his hands wrapped around the guy.
Heres his first game. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXLIVDOawcI
Notice how when given some time he made accurate throws (although many were drops by useless recievers). Notice how well he moved in the pocket and avoided defenders and there were many just coming at him as if the o-line simply said “F-it”
Overall this season was marred with lack of protection, and absolutely no support by coach or players (because of little talent). Plus he was a rookie! A rookie! What do you expect? Him to all of a sudden become Dan Marino? It takes a little time and experience for qb’s to develop.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRpAnUdgWqA
Then in his second season he was poised to start. And he was going to be our starter intill we signed the progress-stopper. He had a good enough showing at camp that made coaches have him atop the depth chart when the first pre-season game came around. Why he was not given the starting job then and why the trifecta signed cp can be chalked up to the team message. If this was supposed to be a new beginning and a revitalized team then how could the coaches use beck as their leader (from a previous regime) even if he was the best player. They cleared out players from the 2007 season as if they were the plague. This stubborness caused us to have beck downgraded and eventually released. This bias against john beck in his 2nd season by this current regime is why I question some of their decisions. He was a franchise qb and they just let him walk away.
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by finsxfactor on Aug 11, 2009 11:28 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Okay, Xman, your point(s) are well made.
But he is gone now.
EVERYONE, can we please stop arguing about someone who is NOT on the team anymore and discuss who is there instead?
pretty please?
Xman, you have to realize that at times some people here are gonna yank the pee pee (see Matty – no cursing this time!) out of your chain just to see you react. Then you get riled up and at times misread someones comment, or think it was aimed at you. (it happened with DIB today – the misread that is) And then you get MORE riled up. Getting your blood pressure to go through the roof just is NOT good for your sex life, much less your life!
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by PhinsTifosi on Aug 11, 2009 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lol im not getting riled up. So relax dude. If people want to debate Beck I'm more than happy because quite frankly he should not be forgotten. He should be the living proof that the trifecta does make mistakes
I believe in John Beck and that Cbdolphin is the man. I'll make you proud LCFF
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by finsxfactor on Aug 11, 2009 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's my man - you're completely off your rocker
but you know when i say this…. i was saying it last year in camp…. WE NEED TO START HENNE now…. anything short of that is putting the long term success of the team in jeopardy…
Chad Pennington - The Lame Ducker aka the progress stopper.
So do you think the Jets intentionally did it to set the organization back 3 years or was it just an unintended side effect of their move.
by W NY Fins Fan on Aug 12, 2009 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree. going another year with cp is hurting more than helpin
I believe in John Beck and that Cbdolphin is the man. I'll make you proud LCFF
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by finsxfactor on Aug 12, 2009 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
btw: who are you calling
a bandwagon beck hater…. I’m an orginal if not the founding member of the beck was a mistake antifan club.
Chad Pennington - The Lame Ducker aka the progress stopper.
So do you think the Jets intentionally did it to set the organization back 3 years or was it just an unintended side effect of their move.
by W NY Fins Fan on Aug 12, 2009 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
BRAVO!! BRAVO!!
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by uncle finster on Aug 13, 2009 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
at the draft; i came up with a sujestion, to trade him for a first round pick. in 49ers team, or maybe vicking's storied passed!!!
by wild zion beaver on Aug 11, 2009 11:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I know we should've traded cp.
I believe in John Beck and that Cbdolphin is the man. I'll make you proud LCFF
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by finsxfactor on Aug 11, 2009 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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