Three Up and Three Down: Talking success and failure
For this week's installment of "3&3" I wanted to take a look into the future. (The future, you say?) That's right - all the way to 2010.
Let me explain. My idea for today, to make things interesting, was to think about what has to go right in '09 for the Dolphins to win the AFC East for the second consecutive season. Conversely, my "three down" will be what could go wrong and result in the Dolphins struggling and ending the season at .500 or worse. It's purely speculation, of course. But thinking about what might have to happen for the Dolphins to have a great '09 - as well as what would have to go horribly wrong for 2009 to turn into a disappointing season - should make for some decent discussion.
THREE REASONS FOR SUCCESS IN 2009
1. The receivers step up - All offseason we heard about how the Dolphins needed to go get a true #1 receiver. Some fans wanted Anquan Boldin. Others wanted Braylon Edwards. And even more fans were hoping/praying for the Dolphins to spend their first round pick on a wide receiver. But the Dolphins didn't pick a receiver until round three - taking USC's Patrick Turner. As it turns out, he could be just what the Dolphins needed - a big, physical possession receiver and redzone threat. Meanwhile, Ted Ginn is entering his third year and has been described in practice as "dominant" at times by Tony Sparano this offseason. And Davone Bess now enters his second season a year after having a tremendous season for an undrafted rookie free agent. If this unit can improve like we all hope they will and make plays, the Dolphins' offense can be pretty darn good.
2. The rookie corners are as good as we all hope they are - All offseason while others were clamoring for a receiver, I listed the secondary as the team's #1 need. And the Dolphins seemed to have done that as well - retaining Yeremiah Bell, signing Gibril Wilson, and drafting two cornerbacks on day one of the draft. If the Dolphins have another outstanding season in 2009, I think the play of rookies Vontae Davis and Sean Smith will be a big reason why. The Dolphins face some explosive receivers this year and limiting the big plays will be critical to this team's success. We're all hoping that these two rookies develop in a hurry. If they do, that'll be one less worry week in and week out in '09.
3. Players other than Joey Porter prove they can get to the quarterback - Sure, the Dolphins finished 8th in the NFL in sacks last year with 40. But 44% of those sacks came from one man - Joey Porter. Among the NFL sack leaders, only John Abraham accounted for more of his team's sacks than Porter (49%). Joey simply had little help getting pressure on the quarterback. While that makes what Porter did last year even more impressive, it's a cause for concern for the Dolphins in 2009. They face some good quarterbacks and some very good receivers this year. If guys like Jason Taylor, Cameron Wake, Matt Roth, Kendall Langford, and Phillip Merling can't help out Joey and get in the opposing QB's face, 2009 could be a disappointing season.
THREE REASONS FOR DISAPPOINTMENT IN 2009
1. Chad Pennington struggles or gets hurt - We know that Chad Pennington is the leader in the huddle right now. He commands his teammates' respect at all times after what he did last year. But we also know that Pennington is far from a sure thing to repeat or better his 2008 performance. Last year was just the second time in his career that Chad has started all 16 games. And he has never had back-to-back seasons of double-digit starts. Now I know many of you think Chad Henne is going to be good/great. But let's face it - he's as unproven as it gets and, even if he does develop into an elite QB, it's not likely that he could play at that high level immediately in 2009.
2. The offensive line crumbles - By crumble, what I mean is that they all start getting hurt. This isn't really about either of the tackles, though. Jake Long and Vernon Carey have proven to be durable and reliable as bookends for this team. But the interior line is a different story. Last year, we saw both of Miami's starting guards go down to season-ending injuries. While Justin Smiley looks to be at 100%, Donald Thomas has already suffered an off-season injury. Even if he's back at 100% by camp, we can't assume he'll remain healthy. Throw in a center with an injury history (Jake Grove) and it's easy to see why many Dolphin fans will be reaching for the antacids whenever an offensive lineman stays down on the field after a play.
3. The defensive line takes a step back - With the release of veteran Vonnie Holliday and no safe bet at nose tackle behind the aging Jason Ferguson, the Dolphins are placing a lot of trust in young defensive linemen. Guys like Kendall Langford, Phillip Merling, Randy Starks, Paul Soliai, Lionel Dotson, and Tony McDaniel will have to really step up their games to ensure Miami's run defense doesn't fold like a cheap suit. Miami was middle of the pack last year in yards-per-carry against (4.2). They can't expect to fall any lower and still have team success in 2009.
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IMO
backup NT and backup center are our biggest concerns
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by Davone_Is_BessT on Jul 9, 2009 12:24 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
agreed
2nd would be MLB.
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Jul 9, 2009 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think ayedole and torbor are the same so thats fine but if crowder goes down were definitely screwed
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by Davone_Is_BessT on Jul 9, 2009 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow dude awesome pic
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by Davone_Is_BessT on Jul 9, 2009 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
where? whose conan? what's conan?
(said in a nicky-esque cindy lou voice that only me, him, and matty know about)
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by finsxfactor on Jul 9, 2009 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pass Rush and O-Line
I think every season is interesting because of all the changes that happen each year. IMO the Defensive Pass Rush and the O-line health will be the keys to either a great or poor season.
No disrespect to Penny but I do think the team could keep moving with Henne and a solid O-line play. We won last season with mediocre WR play so I think we could make the playoffs with similar production and the best way to hide a weak secondary is to have a great pass rush
by markus_13 on Jul 9, 2009 12:44 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
D-Backs
I think we have one of the best (if not the best) safety tandum in the league. I think that will greatly benefit Vontea Davis and Sean Smith. A pass rush wouldn’t hurt either, but with Taylor back, Roth, Crowder, and Porter (not to mention Wake which could step up and be a decent linebacker). Even if we get a decent pass rush I think Davis and Smith can learn and step in rather quickly. Bell and Wilson really help them out though.
by wolski-08 on Jul 9, 2009 1:11 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
don't be so negative
we got this nukkaaaaaaaa
by Brian5517209 on Jul 9, 2009 1:57 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
5 of 6 right
Great article. The only part that threw me off was about the offensive line potentially not clicking. There is no way in the world. The O-Line is the greatest strength of the team. This dolphins team is destined to to win the Superbowl for the following reasons:
1.) The Superbowl is in there house
2.) The Ravens are going to be worse than last year, losing Rex Ryan
3.) The Patriots Defense is average at best, there entire secondary consists on new players
4.) The Dolphins are the deepest team in the NFL and have the toughest schedule in the League,and playing the best competition every single week can only make you better.
5.) Pat White will be the X – Factor each and every game, and he will produce. Check out this video…and tell me he is not a game changer
by JR Rider on Jul 9, 2009 2:44 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Your over-reacting
Pat White is a great runner yes, but college ball and pro ball are two completely different things. Pat will only excel in the wildcat this year, and every team in the league knows that we’ll run that. Pittsburgh, Tennessee, San Diego, NYJ, Indianapolis, and New England, will all catch on to White’s abilities before the game starts- He won’t be the x-factor this year. After years of missing the playoffs, we finally have the turnaround season we’ve all been waiting for, and now all of a sudden you think we’re winning the Super Bowl? Your nuts.
by wolski-08 on Jul 9, 2009 3:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
missing factors
Yeah JR, while you could be right about the ravens. You must remember that the pats defense isn’t why they’ve been so good all this past decade. Don’t get me wrong, i hate em. But they’re offense is the force to be reckoned with. And also, if your thinking enough to mention the ravens, then how did you overlook the world champions. They haven’t lost anyone important and i think santonio is going to become the next great receiver due to his lightning quick speed and playmaking ability (hence superbowl mvp).
by phinfan Neal on Jul 9, 2009 3:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cheatriots Offense Over Rated
The only way the Cheatriots offense is good is when Brady is given time to throw. If you knock him on his A$$ few times at start of game, he gets Gun Shy & is useless the rest of the game and he starts Crying & Whining And yelling at his O-Line . Thats how you beat the Cheatriots. Brady turns into the True Wimp he is when he’s hit.
Every One of thier losses, Brady was sacked & hit over & over.
by miadolph1 on Jul 9, 2009 10:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well considering the patriots have lost all of 6 times in...
2 years, with 5 of those coming while Matt Cassell was the QB – it is kind of hard to argue that beating them is as simple as getting to Brady.
While the giants put a ton of pressure on him during the SB – remember that without that fluke play where Manning threw it up for grabs to his TE, the patriots would have gone 19-0.
Their offense is going to be a force again this year and I see them as by far, our biggest competitor for the division.
by Natalya on Jul 9, 2009 11:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It may sound simple, but it's true
That’s always been the key to beating Brady and co. If you can put the pressure on Brady, he becomes very mistake prone. I know you’re thinking it’s that way with most quarterbacks, but this is a guy people are calling an all-time great. All-time great QB’s don’t buckle under pressure. The reason it’s not done more often against the Pats is because, one: they have one of the best offensive lines in football. two: they go to the spread offense and pick apart blitzing teams with slants and RB dump offs. As for the Giants only winning because of a fluke play. The Pats averaged 36.8 pts/game that year, the Giants defense held them to 14. That’s what allowed them to win.
by luvs2drnk on Jul 9, 2009 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you think Brady did not face any high pressure defenses in their 20+ straight wins?
You’re oversimplifying it.
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by joel311 on Jul 10, 2009 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
When you put up 36.8 pts per game.....
Would you consider any of their opponents high pressure defenses??? But yes, they did face 7 top 10 defenses that year, but only two of those held the Pats to under 30 points (Colts-24, Ravens-27), and only 3 of those held them under 400 yds of offense (Colts-342, Ravens-326, and Giants-390). Just look at the difference between the game the Pats beat the Giants, and the Superbowl loss. In the win, only one sack allowed. In the loss, 5 sacks allowed. During the season, Brady was never sacked more than 3 times in a game, and that only happened twice (Cowboys and Dolphins). I’ve always said Brady is a system QB, a QB who looks good because of the system he is in. To me, a great QB makes the players around him better, not vice versa. Marino made Duper and Clayton look good. Rice, Craig, Taylor, and Clark made Montana look good. Just as Welker, Moss, and Stallworth gave Brady his record breaking year.
by luvs2drnk on Jul 10, 2009 2:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
im die hard finz fan
but brady earned a lot of my respect in that SB game. he wasnt a wimp. he got layed out every other play (dream come true) but he still got up – no whining no crying. he was true football player that game.
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by Davone_Is_BessT on Jul 9, 2009 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
but he lost
:)
Laces out!
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by BSerious72 on Jul 9, 2009 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeap, respect to Brady for that game...
he sucked up a ton of sacks, a very predictable game plan from his offensive coordinator and still put his team in a position to win.
Oh yeah, but I’m still glad they lost :)
by Natalya on Jul 9, 2009 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol ya but not because of him
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by Davone_Is_BessT on Jul 9, 2009 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
2.) The Ravens are going to be worse than last year, losing Rex Ryan
LOL so does that mean the jets defense will be better?
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by finsxfactor on Jul 9, 2009 8:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't say the OL wouldn't click
I said that all 3 starters on the interior (Smiley, Thomas, Grove) all are injury-prone and all missed games last season. If they stay healthy, this line is damn good.
by Matty I on Jul 9, 2009 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thomas isn't a starter
=)
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Jul 9, 2009 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
started 1st game of the season
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by Davone_Is_BessT on Jul 9, 2009 8:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he will have to earn it in TC
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by LeftCoastFinFan on Jul 10, 2009 12:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
of course
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by Davone_Is_BessT on Jul 10, 2009 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with you Matty, but . . .
(and there ALWAYS is a but – ’cause we all have one!) I am less concerned than you about CP10 getting injured.
I think Henne playing opens up defenses for 2 reasons.
1 – they have to respect his arm (just like Marino in the ancient days)
2 – by giving that respect it opens up possibilities for Ronnie and RunRickyRun and Polite et al more.
In that respect we could have a throwback style offense a la 72/73/74 Dolphins. We have multiple run threats which can take it to the house pretty much at will if the D is open enough and out O line stays healthy.
Henne doesn’t HAVE to throw all the time, so he can keep the # of INTs down and the O moving down the field. I think with Henne on the field we rely less on the Wildcat, because we can. Easier to smoke the D if they have the wrong players on the field against the Wildcat.
All that said, CP10 DESERVES to be the starter this year. He has earned it and the respect of ALL Dolphans.
Henne will be better with another year as understudy. I am simply less worried than others with him stepping up if needed.
by PhinsTifosi on Jul 9, 2009 8:33 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ps - I think Polite deserves more respect and ink than he has gotten after last year. He is a true team player, doing everything asked of him
and giving his best all the time. In the current NFL FB is a lead blocker, QB protector and very short yardage gainer. They NEVER put up huge #’s and are often overlooked for their contribution. In fact, IMHO, the most overlooked and underrated position on any team.
by PhinsTifosi on Jul 9, 2009 8:38 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't call the FB an "underrated" position...
…simply because many teams aren’t using them regularly anymore. More and more, we are seeing single-back sets that get another TE or another WR on the field.
But I love Polite – and the FB position, in general. Unfortunately, I get the feeling the position is going to be considered “old-school” in another 10 to 15 years.
by Matty I on Jul 9, 2009 9:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree, it's an underrated position.
Just look at the carrier of Lorenzo Neal. Look at the rushers numbers he blocked for and their numbers after he left. It’s pretty tough to argue the value of a good FB.
by Polephin on Jul 9, 2009 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agree with Matty...
it isn’t underrated as much as it is simply not used much.
by Natalya on Jul 9, 2009 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
depends
i thought you meant “underrated” as in fans/media don’t give FBs enough credit.
by Matty I on Jul 9, 2009 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think of underrated as
not being given enough credit/kudos/‘due’ for a player’s ability and performance.
Example, Will Allen is very underrated and yet he’s a full time starter that plays every snap.
Compare that to the fullback position which is just not used much anymore regardless of how good the player is..
by Natalya on Jul 9, 2009 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually both ways. I think the position is underrated
because it is not used much. Therefore and good FB ends up being underrated because he is not used much.
Polite is the PERFECT example of both ways.
by PhinsTifosi on Jul 10, 2009 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Finally Polite gets some love!!
It completely boggles my mind last year, all the times the Dolphins decided either to not go for it on 4th and 1 (in good field position) or tried getting it with Ricky or Ronnie. Polite was a 3rd and 1/ 4th and 1 machine. The guy always got the first down. I was especially disappointed when the Dolphins didn’t go for it on 4th and 1 from the goaline against the Ravens in the playoffs.
by luvs2drnk on Jul 9, 2009 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mostly agree but.......
" But let’s face it – he’s as unproven as it gets and, even if he does develop into an elite QB, it’s not likely that he could play at that high level immediately in 2009"
We have had this debate a ton of times here but what makes you think that Henne will have an immediate impact in 2010 by sitting 1 more year? If you don’t think he would have an immediate impact in 2010, then why not put him in now?
Also, the WR group would need to develop timing patterns with a new QB next year which may slow things down, why not take the lumps this year, so that next year we are that much closer? Seems logical to me.
by Polephin on Jul 9, 2009 9:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
"If you don’t think he would have an immediate impact in 2010, then why not put him in now?"
Two things.
First – I think he’d have a much more positive impact if he takes over as starter during the offseason rather than mid-season. So I’m not 100% sure he wouldn’t have an immediate impact in 2010.
Two – Pennington is coming off of a great season and he still gives this team the best chance to win. And that’s all I care about. If Henne outplays Pennington in practice, I wouldn’t be against making the switch. But based on reports from offseason OTAs, Pennington consistently outplayed Henne.
by Matty I on Jul 9, 2009 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No question Penne is the better QB right now....
…however, if you anwer yes to “Do you think Penne can win you a SB?”… then you sign him for longer and go for it.
If you answer is no, then taking one step back to potentially take 2-3 forward, just makes more business sence.
No question off-season is better then mid-season for a starting role.
For me, winning this year means nothing if next year we have a learning curve at QB and all our players are getting older. You only have a certian window in this league to win.
If Penne sucks this year the answer for next year is clear. But, what happens if we finish 11-5 or 10-6 with a wild-card, win or loose our first playoff game and loose the next.
Next year Penne or Henne? This would be the toughest decision. I would think Henne. because of the potential. If that’s the case, let him learn for a year on the field so next year we can make a more serious run.
by Polephin on Jul 9, 2009 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you basically just laid out the entire Penne vs Henne debate.
But to answer your question – yes, I think you can win a SB with Pennington.
As far as your hypothetical question, if the Dolphins make the playoffs and win a round then get eliminated, the solution to next offseason’s QB issue is simple…..you let the better QB play. If Henne beats out Pennington – or if it’s close enough – you go with Henne. But if Pennington clearly outplays Henne, then Penne is your man.
I don’t like handing anyone a job – regardless of things like “potential” and “draft status.” Earn it on the field by performing well in practice.
by Matty I on Jul 9, 2009 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well said
but if we lose a playoff game it wont necessarily mean it was Penne’s fault, I agree Matty, If it aint broke, dont fix it.
by uncle finster on Jul 9, 2009 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
CP isn't under contract though...
so if we are talking QB’s for 2010, CP can only be in the discussion if he gets a new deal.
by Natalya on Jul 9, 2009 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So what would you do for the '10 season
if CP leads us to a 2nd round playoff exit this year (re: win wildcard game, lose next game) ?
What kind of deal do you give him and how does that affect Chad Henne’s position also…?
by Natalya on Jul 9, 2009 7:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well it would have to be reasonable.
I don’t think Pennington would try to break the bank. And if he was willing to take a reasonable 2 year deal, I’d do it.
As far as Henne, if Penne remained in Miami, it would be up to Henne to beat him out. No player should be handed a job. If he at least plays as well as Pennington in practice, but isn’t a clear-cut winner, then I’d go with Henne. If Pennington clearly outplays Henne in practice, then Penne is our man still – IMHO
by Matty I on Jul 9, 2009 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess we need to respectfully agree to disagree.
Of course Penne is better then Henne right now….Penne has 85 career starts and Henne has none.
If we never see Henne in a game, then we would never see how good or bad he is.
The one thing I have never heard is that anyone thinks that Henne cannot play in this league. Let me know if I’m mistaken. Looking at the arm of Henne, 1 yr removed from college, you can see the arm, distance wise, seems to be way better then Penni. Penni is accurate and smart. 2 huge intagibles. Don’t know about Henne yet because we haven’t seen him.
As well, the reason we lost to Baltimore in the playoffs last year was on Penni. He tried to make throws he could not make. The def stepped clogged the box and forced him to throw it deep…I beleive he had 4 picks. Sure you can argue that they wern’t all his fault, but….
Just for the record, I love Penni. But I love the Dolphins more.
by Polephin on Jul 9, 2009 10:46 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
again -
I said Henne has to beat out Pennington in practice. And if the gap between the two is pretty close, then I’d be in favor of putting Henne in.
But if Pennington plays much better than Henne in practice, then Penne is the man.
I hand nobody a job on this team.
As far as Henne being able to play in this league – we have no idea. He has the physical tools. But so does Kyle Boller (for example). But if he can’t perform better than or just as good as Pennington in practice, I don’t know what to tell you.
by Matty I on Jul 9, 2009 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And ironically...
Boller had a decent first season, promising second season, and downhill ever since. I’d say the potential advantage Henne has is that he’s gotten to sit and watch while also having a mentor in CP.
It is hard to tell how QB’s will turn out..
by Natalya on Jul 9, 2009 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
after his second season mcnair was signed and was flat out handed the job without a competition
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by finsxfactor on Jul 9, 2009 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
(smiley face)
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by finsxfactor on Jul 9, 2009 11:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That happens alot...
Pennington was basically handed the starting QB job, and don’t try telling me he was going to have to compete with McCown or Beck. Everyone knew Pennington was signed to be the starter. Anytime you have a first round draft pick or marquee FA, you can almost guarantee the job is theirs or will be theirs without competition.
by luvs2drnk on Jul 9, 2009 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thats the problem aint it?
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by finsxfactor on Jul 10, 2009 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree
Pennington outplayed those 2 in practice. If Beck and/or McCown actually impressed the coaches, the Dolphins might not have even signed Pennington. But neither did.
by Matty I on Jul 10, 2009 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Beck was going to start...
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by finsxfactor on Jul 10, 2009 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What was Beck going to start? His volkswagen beetle?
by PhinsTifosi on Jul 10, 2009 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
starting qb
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by finsxfactor on Jul 10, 2009 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
except the coaches weren’t impressed.
if he performed well in camp, they wouldn’t have signed Pennington.
by Matty I on Jul 12, 2009 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
they were impressed just too stubborn to admit that.
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by finsxfactor on Jul 12, 2009 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
its true.
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by finsxfactor on Jul 13, 2009 1:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're smokin' crack matty
Pennington was signed because Parcells and company knew they had nothing in Beck and McCown. Hell, every Dolphin fan knew that!! McCown wouldn’t have even been signed if Parcells knew Pennington was going to be available. You can thank Favre for that. But in all honesty, outplaying a back-up QB and a busted 2nd round pick wasn’t going to be a monumental task.
by luvs2drnk on Jul 22, 2009 3:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
cant wait to see henne in preseason
if he plays good i will do the dumb thing and scream for him to be put in right away. and if we lose a game with penne starting i will blame it on them not starting henne =D
and if we start henne and he does bad i will say to the FO:im a stupid fan what are u listening to me for?
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by Davone_Is_BessT on Jul 9, 2009 12:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
O Line Numero Uno
O line is the linchpin to the success of the team, and to your analysis as well. If O line performs, CP has greater chance of staying healthy, running game works better, other D plays closer to run, passing game works better, offense chews up time, defense is fresher and can put more pressure on other team’s QB, taking pressure off our secondary.
No Question: O line is linchpin
Question: How good are the backups on the O line (future post Matty)
by Sparcells on Jul 9, 2009 12:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I really agree with your #3
Joey Porter disappeared from games last year when offenses could roll protection to his side. Look what happened last year with Chargers and no Merriman – no sacks from the other side.
The rushers only work well when you can squeeze from both sides or put pressure also up the middle.
by SlotMachinePlayer on Jul 9, 2009 12:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Isn't this stating the obvious?
I’m a fan and hopeful for a good season but if the QB doesn’t struggle and both sides of the line are good and WR’s step up and new CB do well and we can pressure the QB. I think the only thing we left out was specail teams.
If I had a wish list, it’s win a playoff game this year and really challenge next year. With the foundation they are building I think this is realistic
by rtantalo on Jul 9, 2009 1:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Keys to the team's success
1. Running Backs – If Ronnie and Ricky do well running the ball, this will keep our defense fresh, and less time for the other teams to pass on us.
2. Linebackers – Whether it’s is stopping the run or putting pressure on the QB, these guys are key. I wouldnt say one aspect is more important than the other.
3. Turn-overs – we had a great year with keeping the Ball safe and having a great take away ratio. This is probably the most important factor to the team’s success.
Miami Dolphins 2008 AFC East Divison Champions
"I likem me some UDFAs"
by Phintastic on Jul 9, 2009 2:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What do you guys think about re-signing Pennington for 2 more years, even though Henne starts in 2010. You know that way if Henne has a bad set of downs he has someone to go to for help. You think Pennington would be willing to do that, also noting that he would more than likely take a pay cut.
by wolski-08 on Jul 9, 2009 4:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think it is the best thing for the team to keep CP10 as long as he is able to play at his current level.
What happens if Henne goes down to injury after he is starter?
CP10 – starter for 2009
Chad as starter for 2010 and beyond – whomever plays better!
by PhinsTifosi on Jul 10, 2009 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
1. Recieving Corp
You forgot to mention what a great boost in team morale and performance would occur if we just mailed Ernest Wilford his checks and told him to stay home.
You have to play this game like somebody just hit your mother with a two-by-four.
-Dan Birdwell
by snook36 on Jul 9, 2009 5:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Whilethe OL is deeper than it was last year
I’ll still be worried if Ike or whats his face has to start
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by Patssuck456 on Jul 9, 2009 11:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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