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Dolphins' remaining unsigned picks should sign soon...hopefully

We've now gotten to the point where all three of the Miami Dolphins' remaining unsigned draft picks should be signed before players report for training camp on Saturday - or, at the latest, before the first practice on Sunday.  Why?  Because each of the three have now been "slotted" by the players around them.

What do I mean by "slotted?"  What I mean is that the players drafted directly in front of and directly behind each pick has been signed.  That leaves very little "wiggle room" for the three players. 

The latest to sign was Peria Jerry, the 24th overall pick of the Atlanta Falcons.  The player drafted in the 26th spot, Clay Matthews, is also signed.  So there isn't much room for the agent of Vontae Davis to negotiate.  He's not going to get more than Jerry.  He's not going to get less than Matthews.  So this deal really needs to get done.

Meanwhile, Clint Sintim - the player drafted right after Pat White - has also signed today.  With Everette Brown - the player selected directly in front of White - having signed a few days ago, there's no reason why White shouldn't soon come to terms with Miami.

The most mind-boggling storyline though is that of Chris Clemons.  The fifth round pick remains the only unsigned player from that round.  I still imagine the hangup must be the length of the contract.

The clock continues to tick for each of the three.  But all three should be signed before camp begins...I hope.

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That's good news

I agree, it’s confusing abot Clemons, but something will happen here soon.

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by Kevin Nogle on Jul 30, 2009 9:22 PM EDT reply actions  

I just saw on Fox sports.com that the Raiders (I think it was) have ALREADY released a 6th round pick!

Maybe if Clemmons heard that he would sign in a hurry! If he were released right now, he gets nada, nothing zippo, zilch! And he makes it hard for himself to get on with another team ‘cause they don’t want to waste a roster spot on someone who is gonna hold out!

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by PhinsTifosi on Jul 30, 2009 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know its dumb to think about it

but the draft makes it for these players get paid so much and aren’t proven yet. like the deal Stafford got..the Lions don’t know if he will be worth it. The greed is outrageous. I hope all our players sign. But I’d rather see them sign first and care about football not how big their house will be.

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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Jul 30, 2009 9:26 PM EDT reply actions  

In a perfect world we'll hear them sign right about now...but with these things there is always that small issue. whether its signing bonus, guarenteed money, whatever it is. If you are a good solid player and you feel you can perform

for a long time than just go ahead sign and make your money. if not and you are squabbling over guarenteed money (money you get no matter what, even if you are cut) then you deserve to be on the “bubble”

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by finsxfactor on Jul 30, 2009 9:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Cut Cleson !!

I could careless about him and im almost feeling the same with White.
Davon need to put his cheese together. I can not get this anymore. U r geting pay 4 what u luv to do and u r geting pay well. 200 thousand more or less is dump to hold up, went u r talking about 2 mill.

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by Aleta on Jul 30, 2009 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

i tell ya it pisses me off that they are and that is they are holding out over money.. i mean damn.. guys like me live off 12k a year and they are bitching about millions?? hell if i had one million dallors i would be the happies hillbilly in the hills.. helli would even pay for my kin to eat a denny’s once.. and trust me that wont be a small bill either.. but seriously.. if it is about money then i will loose alot of respect for them..play the game because you love it.. not because it is a big pay day >:o(

common sence says if you put a stick in it and stirr if it stinks.. stop.. toss the stick and just walk away.

by animal2020 on Jul 30, 2009 9:41 PM EDT reply actions  

I agree

I don’t lose respect for them only because it is how the business is run. It won’t ever change. I just would rather see them care about the game; in a perfect world it would be like that…but the world is less than perfect and the game is their jobs.

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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Jul 30, 2009 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

ya but if i walked into my job and said i wont work till i get more money.. know what my boss would say..

yep standing in the unemployment line would be my next move.

common sence says if you put a stick in it and stirr if it stinks.. stop.. toss the stick and just walk away.

by animal2020 on Jul 30, 2009 9:47 PM EDT reply actions  

very true

I hear where you are coming from but it is just a different type of business. Because so much money is made big paydays are handed out. If the sport wasn’t so awesome then they would have it just like you

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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Jul 30, 2009 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's because there is always somebody that can do your job as well as you.

It’s not the same in the NFL.

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by joel311 on Jul 30, 2009 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

But we r talking about a 200k diff..

on contracts that r more than 2 mill, Is less than 10% for 4 years, if they perform that will increase by a lot if the dont, 200k out of 2mill is nothing.

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by Aleta on Jul 30, 2009 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

You forget,

these guys are used to making just as little as we do. I for one don’t want to be shafted $200,000 in four years. I don’t even make $200,000 in four years right now, so why would I not fight tooth and nail for that money?

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by joel311 on Jul 31, 2009 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

yup

not to mention their careers could end next week

by Matty I on Jul 31, 2009 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

good point

greed is definetly VERY real in pro sports.

but can you blame the athletes, its mostly all the agent that sets upon the $ amount.

I mean they hire agents because their athletes not accountants, and if they can get more money why wouldnt they try to? They have families too. It just sucks that so much money is shelled out but hey its a business and you cant expect people to start hating money and want less.

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by BSerious72 on Jul 31, 2009 10:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

If the players don't get it,

then the billionaire owners do. There’s nothing wrong with trying to get your due IMO. Just so long as you don’t go too far and miss some training camp :x

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by joel311 on Jul 31, 2009 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

yep i agree.. it sucks roman nuts..but what ya gonna do right.. we as fans still go to the games regardless

common sence says if you put a stick in it and stirr if it stinks.. stop.. toss the stick and just walk away.

by animal2020 on Jul 30, 2009 10:00 PM EDT reply actions  

yep we still do

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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Jul 30, 2009 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

We still do but..

i will NOT buy a jersey of them ; )

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by Aleta on Jul 30, 2009 11:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

i have a radical idea

something that will prob NEVER EVER happen, but i just thought of this…here it goes: Rookies will play their first year w/o a contract, but the team will pay for housing, food, bills etc…this allows the team to see what the player is capable of doing in the NFL and then determine what that player is worth and work out a deal from that…instead of all this guessing of what the player may or may not do, the owners will have a year to see what kinda potential the player has…

what do u guys think???

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by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Jul 30, 2009 10:01 PM EDT reply actions  

great idea

that would be the best thing. it would show that they were really after the game and were able to prove they were worth so much. they would have their basic needs taken care of and then could live later on in life.

it would never happen but it is a genius idea.

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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Jul 30, 2009 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

yea exactly

and yes, yes it is a genius idea =D

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by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Jul 30, 2009 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Until they get a terrible injury that ruins their career

and they have no guaranteed money to live off of.

Bad idea.

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by joel311 on Jul 30, 2009 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

welll in that case

the team will work something out with the player

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by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Jul 30, 2009 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha thanks

i was trying to think of the term for that lol

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by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Jul 30, 2009 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

holy crap

George Costanza coulda used that insurance policy

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by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Jul 30, 2009 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

his hands

did u see the episode where he was a hand model?

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by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Jul 30, 2009 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha

Ron Jeremy also

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by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Jul 30, 2009 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

yea that insurance woulda came handy

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by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Jul 30, 2009 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

no because a rook will just go out and buy all the cars he wants just because the team pays for it

and then if the team sets like a 1mil limit or something than thats just like giving him a 1 year contract

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by finsxfactor on Jul 31, 2009 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

Naw they can set all kinds of limits. Shit, the team can just buy them a VW New Beetle

that gets turned in at the end of the first year. It would be great motivation for the player to get his ass out of that chick car! Can you see a 6-5 310 lb lineman driving one?

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by PhinsTifosi on Jul 31, 2009 12:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

lmao

but ur right on…the team buys the car or provides transportation, chooses the house/apartment, give them a monthly (or weekly) allowance for food, and pay any bills…also the player will have an insurance policy with the team in case an injury of any type, serious or minor, is suffered…

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by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Jul 31, 2009 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

or a blue prius

(prize for who knows this reference)

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by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Jul 31, 2009 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's a good idea as well

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by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Jul 30, 2009 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I bet the owners would ALL vote for it!

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by PhinsTifosi on Jul 30, 2009 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

yep. another good idea.

we just need to start lobbying the owners and commissioner

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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Jul 30, 2009 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Goodell is intrested in the idea

They would just have to get the PU on board

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by Patssuck456 on Jul 30, 2009 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

i really hope it happens

but i am pretty sure the PU will not go for this

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by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Jul 30, 2009 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

ya think?

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by PhinsTifosi on Jul 30, 2009 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

i know the head of the PU is not a player

but the other members are, right? or just people that represent the players?

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by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Jul 30, 2009 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Didn't the players union just get a new head?

I think this will happen.

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by joel311 on Jul 30, 2009 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, the last one died.

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by PhinsTifosi on Jul 30, 2009 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes yes yes yes yes ….i have been rooting for a rookie cap for years.. it would do away with hold outs i believe.. they know what to expect from the start so NO freaken belly aching about money.

to me it leaves a bad taste in the coaches mouths when a rookies is trying to squeeze out more cash.. hell buddy everything you done in collage means jack in the nfl..

common sence says if you put a stick in it and stirr if it stinks.. stop.. toss the stick and just walk away.

by animal2020 on Jul 31, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I too am bewildered by this....
The most mind-boggling storyline though is that of Chris Clemons. The fifth round pick remains the only unsigned player from that round. I still imagine the hangup must be the length of the contract.

I don’t think i’ve ever heard of a 5th rounder holding out before…. EVER….. and IIRC i think the length of every contract past the 2nd? or 3rd? round is mandated by the CBA at 4 years??? too lazy to look it up right now

Anyways – this is utterly weird.

As to Davis – he really has no reason not to be signed and delivered by sunday… no reason what so ever …. and this management team isn’t going to pull a Satan and demand a six year deal from davis knowing that they’ll have to rework his contract after 4 if he lives up to expectations….

White as a QB is obviously a tricky one. QB’s while slotted, they do get a mark up over their slotted value due to being QB’s (hey life isn’t fair is it)…. So i haven’t heard anything that they are making any progress on this one, but i imagine the phone lines will be humming on sunday if a deal isn’t done by then.

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by W NY Fins Fan on Jul 30, 2009 10:59 PM EDT reply actions  

Clemons needs to shitcan his agent

Both Clemons and his agent need to realize that Parcells has dealt with agents and players for a long long time. What you’re seeing here is a player who will be under a
microscope when…if..he makes it to camp. He’s a fifth round pick down around 165th overall for God’s sake. Time to sign, regardless of the contract. Prove yourself and THEN start making demands. Right now I dont give a rats ass if Clemons signs at all.

White is another story…excellent college resume’ and an essential cog in the Wildcat . He may be a holdout for what?…length of contract? guarantees?. Hope not. Here’s a guy we need.

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by PhearThePhinzz on Jul 31, 2009 5:28 AM EDT reply actions  

Heads up

Vontae Davis has signed 5 year deal dont know finacial aspect of it yet but he has signed an will be in camp that is the lastest update!!!!!

by finsforever on Jul 31, 2009 3:47 PM EDT reply actions  

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