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Miami Dolphins Training Camp Primer: Cornerbacks to be under microscope

We focused on the linebackers yesterday.  Today, we will keep our attention on the defensive side of the ball and talk a little about Miami's cornerbacks.

It's clear that the Dolphins wanted to address their secondary this past offseason.  They signed Gibril Wilson to compliment the re-signing of Yeremiah Bell - creating a hard-hitting safety tandem.  They also spent a lot of resources on upgrading the team's cornerbacks.  And there's no doubt that the cornerback position will be one of the most closely watched positions once camp begins in just a matter of days.

THE QUICK BREAKDOWN

Virtual locks to make the roster: Will Allen, Vontae Davis, Sean Smith
On the bubble: Eric Green, Jason Allen, Nathan Jones
Long shots: Joey Thomas, Will Billingsley

THE QUESTIONS

Obviously, the main question with this unit will be how quickly the two rookie corners - Davis and Smith - can develop.  If one can earn a starting spot, many fans would feel more comfortable with this unit than they otherwise might.  Both Davis and Smith possess tremendous talent - albeit different talents.  Davis is more of a press corner and he loves to lay the wood.  Smith, meanwhile, is more of a play-making cover corner.  He has good hands and absolutely ridiculous size (6'3 1/2) for a corner.  But will either of the two earn the starting gig opposite of incumbent starter Will Allen?

But there are other questions that don't involve the two rookies.  Will free agent acquisition Eric Green improve from his very lackluster offseason?  You'll remember that one of the themes of OTAs and minicamp was Green's impression of burnt toast - getting beat left and right for big plays.  Will Jason Allen finally develop into a servicable NFL player?  He has all the physical tools you need - but has continually disappointed.

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THE NUMBERS GAME

There's a thought that the Dolphins could potentially keep six cornerbacks this season.  But last season, the Dolphins kept five cornerbacks on the 53-man roster to begin the season.  And, in my opinion, I think that the Dolphins would prefer to keep just five corners rather than six - keeping a roste spot open for another player at another position.  But this decision could come down to how the two backup safeties, Tyrone Culver and Chris Clemons, perform in camp.  If the coaching staff feels comfortable enough with potentially using Culver or Clemons as a cover corner if necessary, the Dolphins could look to again keep only five corners.

WHERE DOES THAT LEAVE US?

There's more to the cornerback competition than just who makes the team.  The depth chart is far from set.  Really, the only player who is locked into his spot is Will Allen.  But other than that, the cornerback situation is very fluid and will likely change from practice to practice until things get settled down - making for what should be an entertaining camp for this unit.

Vontae Davis, Sean Smith, and Eric Green will all likely get long looks as a potential starter opposite of Allen.  Entering camp, some might say that Green has the leg up thanks to his experience in the league.  But just being "experienced" won't be enough for Green if he continues to struggle.  He's going to have two very talented rookies breathing down his neck all camp long.

Based on the practices that were open to the media, it seems like it was Smith standing out as the top rookie despite being drafted 30 picks after Davis.  But that was also without pads and without real hitting.  Davis excels as a physical corner and he loves to lay the wood.  He's also the better player in run support - based on their college performances - which will certainly be beneficial to Vontae in his bid to win the starting job.

Meanwhile, it's looking like Jason Allen and Nate Jones will be in a battle to make the team.  Of course, both could make it if the Dolphins keep six corners or if they give up on Eric Green despite signing him just a few months ago.  But I still believe that it's likely that the coaches will only keep five corners - and I expect Green to be one of them.  That means Allen and Jones will both have to prove they belong.  Jones probably has the upper hand because he was the team's nickel back while Allen ended the year recovering from a broken hand.  But Allen is a good special teams contributor - he led the team in solo special teams tackles last year with 14 - and he has a much more expensive contract.  In fact, Jones is a free agent following the '09 season, meaning it could be even easier to cut ties with Jones.

THE KEY BATTLE

The key battle, like I said above, will be between Vontae Davis, Sean Smith, and Eric Green for both the starting job and the job of nickel back.  We know that fans will all be pulling for the two rookies to land at #2 and #3 on the depth chart, shoving Green down to fourth.  But you have to wonder if the coaches would be comfortable with having rookies fill the role of both starting corner and nickel back.  What I guess I'm saying is that I get the feeling Green will, at the very least, get some playing time early in the season as the team's nickel - assuming he doesn't continue to get beat every day once camp begins - while the two rookies get more comfortable. 

Of course, the optimist in me is praying for both Smith and Davis to excel in camp and win those two jobs behind Will Allen.  But how likely is it for two rookie corners to receive extensive playing time from day one?

THE PREDICTION

We know Will Allen, Vontae Davis, and Sean Smith will all be on the team.  I also expect Eric Green to stick.  If the Dolphins do keep six corners, then this is a fairly easy prediction - Jason Allen and Nate Jones both make the team.  But if they don't - and I suspect they won't - then I think Jason Allen will just barely make the cut.  But there's a very real chance that the '09 season is his final one in Miami.

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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Jul 29, 2009 12:19 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i say keep nathan jones

he stepped up last year, the rookies i hope they both make it i would rather see Smith to me the more ideal cb for the competition we have at receivers this year, eric green i am not to fond on him so i can care less if he makes it or not or they release him

by Striker0418 on Jul 29, 2009 12:21 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm so for Eric Green

he is a Parcells guy and I expect something from him

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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Jul 29, 2009 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he was a bust

has not produced at all he is mediocre on his best day and what sucks his contract is so big

by Striker0418 on Jul 29, 2009 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That was '06, though...

Not the best (fo) thinking, fer sure, but let the guy earn it. As Dolphin secondary’s of the past have shown, hard hitters might could maybe stick around.

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by Tunaflipper on Jul 29, 2009 12:38 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Why is everyone so down on Jason Allen?

He started 9 games during the Cameron fiasco and put up respectable numbers. 3 INTs, a FF, and 55 tackles (Ayodele only had 58 tackles in 13 games started last year, and he’s a LB!). This will be his 4th year, second strictly as a CB. His first two years they couldn’t make up their mind whether to keep him as a safety or convert him to CB. I’ll admit, his biggest weakness is man-to-man coverage, but the guy was a safety in college. It’s not an easy transition to make, especially from college to the pros. What he does bring is solid tackling, good special teams play, and a serviceable zone coverage CB. If anyone hasn’t produced it’s Nathan Jones, except when he comes in on a nickel blitz (3 sacks last year).

by luvs2drnk on Jul 29, 2009 1:35 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Everyone is down on JA cause...

He WAS a 1st rounder bro!

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by Aleta on Jul 29, 2009 3:19 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who has only started 11 out of 48 games possible.

When he has played, he has shown potential. He led all DBs and was third on the team in tackles the only season he’s had a chance to play regularily (2007). He also happened to lead the team in INTs that year as well. Will Allen started every game, and had less tackles and INTs than Jason Allen had that year in only 9 starts. I understand the coaching staff seems to be down on him, but you can’t say he hasn’t produced when given the chance. Who cares if he was a 1st rounder. So were Vince Young, Matt Leinart, Tye Hill, Ernie Sims, Michael Huff, Donte Whitner, Bobby Carpenter, John McCargo, and Kelly Jennings. And what have they done? All of them were drafted in the same year as Allen. Six of them before Allen. You make it sound like a 1st rounder is an automatic pro bowler. Do your homework, and you’ll see the Dolphins haven’t been very successful in the first round (Jamar Fletcher, John Avery, Yatil Green, Billy Milner, Randall Hill, Sammie Smith). Out of the last 26 times the Dolphins have picked in the 1st round, only 12 have had decent careers. That’s less than a 50% success rate, so I’m not sure where you’re getting these high expectations from for a Dolphins 1st rounder.

by luvs2drnk on Jul 29, 2009 7:13 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree

Its not his fault he was drafted so high (the same with Ginn). I think it would be silly for this regime to cut Allen in favor of Jones especially since he’s in his last contract year. Allen needs a bit more time I think and like you’ve pointed out its not like he’s been miserable. True he has a hefty contract but its not like we need the cap room now anyways.

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by Enhalen on Jul 29, 2009 7:19 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good point

I think that we, the fans that hang on every word of hype by the media, believe that each and every high first round draft choice coming out of college will be..or SHOULD be..a slam-dunk success. More often it puts so much pressure on the young talent that they find it hard to live up to the accolades they’ve been fed. Sure, the talent is there. But in many many cases it has to develop and the maturity is lacking.
The first things rookies are hit with coming into the pros are the speed of the game and the hurry-up-and-learn-the-system mentality. Some rookies are quick to learn, others find that they’re not so quick. Cases in point Jason Allen and Ted Ginn Jr….not their fault they were first round picks. I’m just not ready to call Ginn a bust. I think we’re more patient with late round picks.

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by PhearThePhinzz on Jul 29, 2009 9:06 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

luvs2drnk, i luv my beer too!

But i really dont get went I SAID that he sucks,even tho he do, i just answer a question that U bring up! After that u didnt show much luv 4 answering why EVERYBODY was down on him. I didnt said in that response that i was down on him.
U mention a lot of picks from that year and U know what? who gives a flying efff? U ask about Jason, not the others picks. If u wana know anything about them go to there team blog bro!
About all Jason #s, im not in the bubble, The COACHUNG staff have himthere and if he doesnt cut it then is not my fall either.
Just letting thing stray,nothing personal.
BTW, next time u ask a question get ready 4 , atleast, a single respond and dont get all pump up! lol

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by Aleta on Jul 29, 2009 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So I'm assuming your, "he sucks" comment is a personal opinion,

since you can’t seem to give any references to back up your statement. As for this bubble you mention, the coaching staff doesn’t have him there. It’s Matty’s opinion that he’s on the bubble. I brought up the other first rounders because you were trying to make a point that as a first rounder he should be better. It’s called debating. You gave an argument as to why everybody is down on him, I countered your argument to discredit your claim. I more than welcome responses to my comments.

by luvs2drnk on Jul 30, 2009 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The staff is high on Jason Allen,

and I share the sentiment. I think he’s going to be a beast this year and I also put him in contention for the starting job. I would hate to see Nate Jones go though, his two sacks in one game last year was pretty awesome :)

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by joel311 on Jul 29, 2009 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Quick question

Where have you once heard that this staff is high on Jason Allen. If they were, they wouldn’t have extended Will Allen and drafted two corners in the first two rounds. Allen also didn’t work higher than on the 3rd team during the OTAs and minicamp practices that were open to the public.

by Matty I on Jul 29, 2009 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Right,

he is behind in the depth currently, but that was without pads and we all know that is a suspect chart at best. I remember hearing that the team was high on him through this site last year. I couldn’t tell you which post.

If they didn’t have faith in him, he wouldn’t have been given the task of covering Randy Moss 1 on 1. That speaks volumes.

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by joel311 on Jul 29, 2009 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and the results speak volumes as well

they tested him…he failed…so they drafted Davis and Smith

by Matty I on Jul 29, 2009 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He broke his hand...

Does the drafting of 2 receivers mean that the FO doesn’t like Davone Bess or Camarillo? They are the number 2 guys after Ginn.

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by joel311 on Jul 29, 2009 12:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Camarillo is coming from injury..

and a serious one. They drafted 2 WR, in the second day, as a insurance. Whats this Jason bandwagon thing? He has toprove something NOW or he will be in Alabama, cause atleast Beck went to Baltimore with the one who drafted him

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by Aleta on Jul 29, 2009 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bandwagon? I was high on Jason Allen last year.

And then he was injured.

I like the earlier post pointing out that Jason Allen had comparable, if not better, numbers to Will Allen in only 9 starts in 2007.

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by joel311 on Jul 30, 2009 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Numbers mean crap in the secondary

First off – in ‘07, Allen was a safety so he’s naturally going to have more tackles. Also – its usually a bad sign when corners have high tackle numbers. That means they are getting thrown to a lot and the passes are being completed a lot.

Stats like tackles are a terrible way to compare defensive backs.

by Matty I on Jul 30, 2009 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What about the interceptions?

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by joel311 on Jul 30, 2009 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nope.

I’m not buying it, either.

Nnamdi Asomugha has only a few picks. I guess he isn’t as good as Jason Allen, either.

What we need to see are the numbers like percentage of passes in his direction completed and yards allowed per attempt. Those metrics better help you judge a cornerback – though they aren’t perfect, either.

Also – you can’t compare a corner and a safety. They have two completely different roles.

by Matty I on Jul 30, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

As for them drafting two corners,

this regime hedges their bets by flooding a position. If they feel there is an open spot, they bring in multiple guys to compete for it. Just like they did with WR. Will Allen is not going to be around forever, and our backups were mediocre at best last year.

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by joel311 on Jul 29, 2009 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, he's not real high on their lists.

How else do you explain him only starting two games last year. But I think the drafting of two corners in the draft was because they needed a cover cornerback. Jason Allen can play the nickel or dime back, but he’s just not fast enough to be a starting CB. The guy is a safety. He only played Moss one-on-one the second game because they wanted him to rough randy up. the result: 8 catches, 125 yds, 3 TD’s. He’s not a cover corner.

by luvs2drnk on Jul 29, 2009 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

But that's the thing...

..Allen IS fast enough. He’s very fast and very athletic. But he lacks the instincts, doesn’t have a grasp on the mental aspects, and needs technique work.

But Allen ran a 4.39 40 at his combine and a 3.83 20yard shuttle – so speed and athleticism have never been an issue for him.

by Matty I on Jul 29, 2009 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes and no

they have clearly stated that they believe in his physical talent – hence the reason he was matched up against marshall, evans, and moss (who they left him one on one with (WTF) but they soured on him against NE when he reverted back to his old bad habits when randy started to abuse him….

but all that said – it’s pretty clear they don’t have a lot of faith in him learning to play CB or saftey or they wouldn’t have spent 4 picks on DB this year….

but that said he is my dark horse to win the job… plus they do like the work he does on ST and that is something to these guys.

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by W NY Fins Fan on Jul 30, 2009 12:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i don't care what we do in the secondary as long as we GET RID OF JASON ALLEN

If you want proof how bad he is just look at the defender in the video during every big play

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAWb-oZ4uFI

by Souwantmyname on Jul 29, 2009 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can show you thousands of videos

of cornerbacks losing to Randy Moss.

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by joel311 on Jul 30, 2009 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Twelfth

..not the same warm fuzziness as ‘first’…harder to spell, too.

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by PhearThePhinzz on Jul 29, 2009 5:52 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Jason Allen

should make the team. He is a very good special teams player, and proves reliable at corner. He has played for 3 different coaches, and philosophies. He should make the team, see significant playing time and prove he belongs. He may not be a pro bowl caliber, but he is not as bad as some think.

by perspective on Jul 29, 2009 8:52 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

personally i would like to see both of our new rookies starting.. davis on one side smith on the other.. but i know they still got alot to learn before that happens

common sence says if you put a stick in it and stirr if it stinks.. stop.. toss the stick and just walk away.

by animal2020 on Jul 29, 2009 9:58 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

eventually

just give it time – but also recognize that Will Allen is a very good corner and is well-respected throughout the league. He may not get a lot of love from the fans and media. But the coaches and personnel men around the league recognize Allen’s ability.

by Matty I on Jul 29, 2009 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ohh ya i know i was not saying right off the bat. but soon i would like to see them on either side.. onoyAFTER they have had more time to develope their skills.

common sence says if you put a stick in it and stirr if it stinks.. stop.. toss the stick and just walk away.

by animal2020 on Jul 29, 2009 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

One Of The Rookies Will Start...

But i dont think it will be Vontae. From what ive seen & Heard, Sean Smith will be the starter. If you have heard any of his interviews, you can tell how smart he is and how much he is studying the playbook and im sure by training camp, he will be far ahead of Vontae ( mentally ).
But if you remember last year, this staff has so many different packages, that everyone will play some role

by miadolph1 on Jul 29, 2009 10:47 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

dreaming

imagine if the presents of davis and smith gave jason allen a shot in the arm. maybe buy next season we could have smith davis and allen. starting 1, 2, and 3. wilson and bell at the safety’s. could be an awsome group. young guys on the line, merling and langford. this defense is built for the future. imagine if all these younge, hungry, athletic, and relatively cheap, play makers reaiize there potential. it would be great, but we’ed be dreaming……………..go dolphins!

by frostyphinfan on Jul 29, 2009 10:50 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Maybe u have a point frosty..

Maybe Jason will get some rocky adrenaline from Davis and Smith and star studying with them from ZERO up the CB potition or just maybe he is dumb. I read somewhere, that he was a slow learner.

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by Aleta on Jul 30, 2009 12:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I given up on Jason Allen

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by Patssuck456 on Jul 29, 2009 11:06 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

well good write up

I’ve said before and I’ll say it again, I really hope Green steps up and stops getting beat. I liked the acquisition of him. It’ll just be nice to see how this players start playing once training camp starts.

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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Jul 29, 2009 12:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

there are still a couple of veteran corners on the market that we should possibly look at

I say give 1 or 2 of these guys a 1 year contract to shore up our CB depth.. Also they will help mentor our rookie corners

Mike McKenzie

Ricky Manning Jr.

Brian Kelly

Aaron Glenn

Deltha O’neal

by Souwantmyname on Jul 29, 2009 2:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Really?

I’m suprised you didn’t put Ty Law on your list. You must have Bill Parcells mixed up with Bill Belichick. Belichick is the guy who goes for the geriatrics on his teams. Where did you come up with this list of have beens? None of these guys have been relevant for the past 3-4 years, if at all.

by luvs2drnk on Jul 29, 2009 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Deltha O'neil

If there is one corner we should go after i think it is him. He’s a proven corner that is 32 years old coming from the patriots last year. I think he could contribute more than eric green for atleast this year. And like you said he could team up with will allen and mentor our rookies. We could definately play vontae and smith in the nickel and rotate each of them in for this upcoming year and let them get some experience under their belt.

by Dolphinsrule0505 on Jul 29, 2009 4:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I say keep 6 CBs and only 4 safeties

Since Jason Allen and Nate Jones can play safety in a pinch.
So could Sean Smith if he had to.
My depth chart would be:
LCB Will Allen, Vontae Davis (on the nickel, Vontae plays outside and Will takes the slot), Eric Green
RCB Sean Smith, Jason Allen, Nate Jones

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by DolphDallas on Jul 29, 2009 4:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

But don't you think Jason Allen should be the long snapper? LOL

You have some good and crazy ideas!

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by PhinsTifosi on Jul 29, 2009 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't put Jason Allen at Safety, ever again.

He needs a full year at one position.

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by joel311 on Jul 30, 2009 10:01 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

don't believe the hype

If ifs and buts were candy and nuts, we’d all have a merry xmas. I was always a fan of his, but enough of the Jason Allen excuses already – he sucks! He’ll never live up to his 1st round tag. 1 long holdout, 2 position changes and 3 coaching regimes in 3 years…blah blah blah. He’s good to keep around for special teams and CB/S depth. A playoff calibre team needs role players like that.

by crossborderFISHingtrip on Jul 29, 2009 10:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Say what you want about Jason Allen.

I’ve given the stats that show he can produce when given the chance to play. He even outshined the great Will Allen in 2007, and he started 7 games less than him. I’m not advocating that the guy should start, but he defintely deserves a roster spot.

by luvs2drnk on Jul 29, 2009 11:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

How is getting burned consistently outshining Will Allen

If you watched the NE/MIA game the Patriots threw to which ever guy Jason Allen was on. They aren’t the only team to do this either. Teams KNOW how bad he is and there is no amount of coaching and playing time that is gonna fix it.

We need to cut out the remnants so we can move on from the awful Nick Satan era

by Souwantmyname on Jul 30, 2009 2:55 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe you should check the facts before commenting....

Jason Allen was put on Randy Moss one-on-one and expected to shut down one of the greatest WRs. I don’t blame him for not being able to shut Randy down, better have tried and failed. But he did post better numbers in 2007 than Will Allen did in less games started. As for cutting out the remnants of the Saban years, so I guess you want to get rid of Ronnie Brown, Matt Roth, and Channing Crowder as well. They were all drafted by Saban.

by luvs2drnk on Jul 30, 2009 4:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Whichever guy Jason Allen was on"

Jason Allen was always on Randy Moss. RANDY MOSS.

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by joel311 on Jul 30, 2009 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Go back and watch that game

after the 3rd quarter we moved Allen off Moss to Welker and Gaffney. They subsequently destroyed us as well

by Souwantmyname on Jul 30, 2009 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You must not have watched that game....

Of the 13 catches for 208 yds Welker and Gaffney caught that game. Only one catch for 23 yards was in the 4th quarter, so that makes Jason Allen look pretty good. I’ll admit Jason Allen didn’t have a good game that day, but either did the whole pass defense allowing 415 yds passing.

by luvs2drnk on Aug 6, 2009 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anyone else think Sean Smith is gonna end up at Safety by the end of this or next year?

He’d be such a great ball hawking centerfielding safety much like “Ed Reed” (probably too generous a comparison)

by Souwantmyname on Jul 30, 2009 2:57 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Maybe,

but why chance ruining a great thing? Can we take some lessons from the J. Allen saga in regards to arbitrarily switching DB positions?

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by joel311 on Jul 30, 2009 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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