Michael Vick a Dolphin? All Bark, No Bite
by Matty I on Jul 28, 2009 2:30 PM EDT
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Upon Michael Vick's reinstatement by Commissioner Roger Goodell, the Washington Post decided to pose a question asking where Vick might end up in 2009. And because it's likely that some in the media will try connecting the Dolphins to Mike Vick, they asked me to write a piece for them. I did just that - and you can see my piece right here. I've also included my piece below.
But in a nut shell, the idea that the Dolphins are going to show interest in Vick is going to prove to be all bark - and no bite. And I explain my reasoning why below.
MICHAEL VICK A DOLPHIN? ALL BARK, NO BITE
It was about one month ago when former NFL head coach Dennis Green went on Sirius NFL Radio and declared that he would have "a hard time believing Michael Vick is not going to wind up with Bill Parcells" in Miami with the Dolphins.
Now that Vick has been "conditionally reinstated" by the NFL, I'm sure we'll all hear Miami's name thrown in the ring as a potential suitor for the quarterback. Much of this talk will likely be centered on two things - the 'Wildcat' and Bill Parcells. We'll hear about how Mike Vick is the ideal 'Wildcat' quarterback because of his ability to run and pass. We'll also hear about how Bill Parcells is just the guy that would be willing to take a chance on a talent like Vick because Bill has a way to help "troubled" athletes get back on track.
But this is faulty logic. The Dolphins spent an early second-round pick back in April on a potential 'Wildcat' quarterback. His name is Pat White and he's the antithesis of Michael Vick - he's a quiet, humble person off the field who has no "character issues." With Chad Pennington and Chad Henne also already on the roster, does it really make any sense for the Dolphins to keep a fourth quarterback on the 53-man roster?
As for the idea that Parcells would be interested in Vick, we need to remember one of the key quotes from Bill's introductory press conference with the Dolphins back in December of 2007. The exact quote from Parcells is as follows: "I'm interested in good character people. I don't want thugs and hoodlums on the team. I really don't. I don't want bad character guys. I don't want problem children."
I think it's fair to call a convicted felon who spent over a year and a half in federal prison a "bad character guy" and a "problem child."
We also need to take into consideration that Vick hasn't even played football since 2006. And when he was playing, he was far from a good passer. He's a guy who has completed just 53.8% of his passes throughout his career to begin with. He's never completed more than 56.4% of his passes in a single season. And for those who want to point out his ability to run the ball, Vick is a guy with more career lost fumbles than rushing touchdowns.
In fact, for his career, Vick has just 13 fewer turnovers than he does combined touchdowns. In fact, Vick averages over a turnover per game for his career. Meanwhile, probably the most important aspect to Miami's offensive philosophy is not turning the ball over. You'll remember that the Dolphins tied the NFL record for fewest turnovers in a single season last year and are one of just eight teams ever to average less than a turnover per game for an entire season.
So while you may hear people in the media speculate that the Dolphins could be interested in Vick, don't count on it. It just doesn't make any sense.
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Well said Matty
I completely agree with you, the media just likes to put it’s own spin on things. Just for the sake of news and having something to talk about. Last time I checked I heard he might be landing with the Patriots, eww I know.
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by EverybodyLovesDolphins on Jul 28, 2009 2:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I heard
Redskins today.
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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Jul 28, 2009 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This makes more sense.
The Redskins care more about the big name than the bad character. Still, Jason Campbell is decent and has good potential.
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by joel311 on Jul 28, 2009 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and
that is why I don’t think he will land there. It needs to be a team that is willing to take a huge risk. Like the Raiders.
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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Jul 28, 2009 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly what i was thinking
The Raiders seem like the most logical answer to me.
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by EverybodyLovesDolphins on Jul 28, 2009 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
because
Al Davis is crazy
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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Jul 28, 2009 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Naturally,
The Raiders. They are actually the team I’ve said time and again will take him.
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by joel311 on Jul 28, 2009 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
we shall see
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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Jul 28, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Redskins are a no-go.
Michael Vick may not get any team to take a chance on him even when he does get fully reinstated. Nobody wanted Barry Bonds in baseball last year. Of course money won’t be an issue for Vick. He’ll play for league minimum for a player of his tenure.
by kdock on Jul 28, 2009 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
uhh why are they a no go again?
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by Rzayo24 on Jul 28, 2009 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Skins make most sense to me
VTech fans are Skins fans normally…and its the same media members…so they welcome him 100times more than another fanbase and media.
There QB is mediocre….and they could use a change of pace player paired with Portis.
The owner makes these kinda moves….more so than the Cowboys these days.
If Im the Patriots I do this….you know it would work for them…and they dont have any speed in the backfield…or a backup QB….
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by Rzayo24 on Jul 28, 2009 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
BTW I'am first
Yay I just furfill a life long dream =)
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by EverybodyLovesDolphins on Jul 28, 2009 2:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Landing with hte patsies?
Thats hilarious! lol
I will see the Dolphins win a SUPER BOWL before i die(22 years and counting)
by Aleta on Jul 28, 2009 2:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Good job Matty
I never realized that his stats were so bad until reading that. I think we all know we won’t get him, the media just doesn’t get it.
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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Jul 28, 2009 2:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Just say no to Vick
And get ready for Mike Vick ‘light’…Pat White. All the skillz none of the baggage. Pats can have him if, in fact they’re seriously interested.
Wide right again! Another graduate of the Norwood school for problematic kickers.....
by PhearThePhinzz on Jul 28, 2009 2:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well said...
Matty, u have the best miami dolphins blog. I have been reading it for the past year. This is my first post. I can’t agree with u more. Why do we need or want Vick when we have Pat White.
Keep up the good work…
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by miami25 on Jul 28, 2009 3:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
what's it like in Boston?
are the arrogant Pats fans worth putting up with for the delicious clam chowder?
by Brian5517209 on Jul 28, 2009 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Arrogant is a nice way of saying it
Its crazy up here, everyone thinks the pats walk on water.. Obviously they are a good if not great team, but we knocked them off last year and hopefully we can do it again…
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by miami25 on Jul 29, 2009 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Welcome 25. YAY another fan of the U !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by PhinsTifosi on Jul 28, 2009 5:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
IT DOESNT MAKE ANY SENSE!!!!!
Chewbacca is a Wookiee from the planet Kashyyyk. But Chewbacca lives on the planet Endor. Now think about it; that does not make sense!
Why would a Wookiee, an eight-foot tall Wookiee, want to live on Endor, with a bunch of two-foot tall Ewoks? That does not make sense! But more important, you have to ask yourself: What does this have to do with this case? Nothing. Ladies and gentlemen, it has nothing to do with this case! It does not make sense!
GO FINS!!!!!!!
by scbrandon on Jul 28, 2009 4:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
the ol' Chewbacca defense
can’t beat it
by Brian5517209 on Jul 28, 2009 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm glad someone else got that.......
the last line of Matty’s article got me thinking of the Chewbacca Defense….LOL
by scbrandon on Jul 28, 2009 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow great article
idk that vick was sooo turnover prone. thats a great point.
its true that it doesnt seem like well get him but as football fan i will still be watching him and maybe even cheering for him if he doesn’t end up with a rival.
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by Davone_Is_BessT on Jul 28, 2009 4:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yes yes yes please please please mister bill NO VICK IN MIAMI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i cant say it strong enough…. we already have good QB"S i love what chad does andi want to keep him right here. low low turnovers.. much better completions..and knows how to control a game.. to me vick is nothing more then a showboat qb who wants the fame.. i say NO NO NO … i hope that is clear enough for ya. if yo udo i swear i will have a hillbillie revolt for the likes that has not been seen since they took hot wings out of the denny’s
common sence says if you put a stick in it and stirr if it stinks.. stop.. toss the stick and just walk away.
by animal2020 on Jul 28, 2009 5:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Vick has no bark or bite
He will electify instead. j/k Considering his short leash, Bellicek may give him a shot. They have no real back up for Brady. He’ll come cheap and will have to behave or it’s off to Canada. Remember Randy Moss the bad boy? He’s quited down since he was traded to New England. I’m not wishing for this, just stating the obvious.
by perspective on Jul 28, 2009 5:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Jeff Ireland.....Oh yeaaaaaaaaaaaa laying the balls on this post
“We don’t have an interest,”
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by Rzayo24 on Jul 28, 2009 5:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Its ok if you dont understand RZ is a little wierd
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by dolfinfan34 on Jul 28, 2009 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great piece Matthew
and i agree totally with you…the media is retarded and doesnt know squat
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by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Jul 28, 2009 5:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Fantastic piece Matty.
I was going to suggest that you might have a hell of a career as a sportswriter, but then I realized, nan, that don’t want somebody who actually does any research and puts real thought into what they are saying. So I guess you need to keep your day job (whatever it is) and keep writing the intelligent well researched stuff you do here!
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by PhinsTifosi on Jul 28, 2009 6:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
FUK VICK
MIAMI TAKES HIM I LOSE ALL RESPECT THAT THAT TEAM, STILL MY TEAM B/C I WAS BORN IN MIAMI SO ITS MY HOME BUT I WILL SO BE DISAPPOINTED, GUY[VICK] IS A NASTY LOW LIFE THUG THAT COMMITTED VIOLENT CRIMES AND SHOULDNT BE ALLOWED IN THE NFL, HE SHOULD LOSE HIS JOB LIKE ANYONE ELSE WOULD …
by fizh on Jul 28, 2009 6:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I have been saying for month (on here) that he will end up on the Raiders.
Maybe the Vikings take him now that Favre is not going to unretire. And the Patsies have no backup QB.
Those are the only places I see him going. Well maybe to the JJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJets or Lions IF stafford or Snachez play shitty.
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by PhinsTifosi on Jul 28, 2009 6:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
FROM PFT
“Fins join the Anti-Vick parade
Posted by Mike Florio on July 28, 2009 6:47 PM ET
Not long ago, former NFL head coach (and current UFL head coach) Dennis Green suggested that the Dolphins would be the prime candidates to land quarterback Mike Vick.
Thereafter, G.M. Jeff Ireland declined to comment on the speculation. “That’s not my deal,” Ireland said.
But now Ireland is singing a different tune.
“We don’t have an interest,” Ireland said Tuesday. “We like the players we have on our current roster.”
So the list of possible teams for Vick is dwindling. "
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by Davone_Is_BessT on Jul 28, 2009 6:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hay maybe Vick would like to play for Dennis Green in the UFL!
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by PhinsTifosi on Jul 28, 2009 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My 1st post !!
MATTY , you finnaly got me. I ‘ve been here for a long time and never needed to post a word… but this time I have to say it. As much as I personaly like Vick and would love for him to get a chance… It just wont be here in MIAMI . I’ve been trying to make a case but it’s obviously been dismissed. I agree with you 200%
by RoyalSun on Jul 28, 2009 7:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
welcome to the mad house lol…. dont worry matty’s stories always seem to drag us into saying something.. it is a spell he uses.
common sence says if you put a stick in it and stirr if it stinks.. stop.. toss the stick and just walk away.
by animal2020 on Jul 28, 2009 8:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Naw, he passes out some of RunRickyRun's stash!
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by PhinsTifosi on Jul 28, 2009 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ps - I love RunRickyRun
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by PhinsTifosi on Jul 28, 2009 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
vick's going to the vikings
now that favre is out of the picture, its only vick
by samdaman on Jul 28, 2009 9:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
WHOA WHOA WHOA!!!!!!!
You all missed the point of that piece….
NICE PIC MATTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Although, you now let FXF see your face to confirm your identity when youa re in public…
Great job though! Good to see the phinsider getting even more exposure.
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by Mosul_DolFan on Jul 28, 2009 10:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well done, sir.
It was a good read. It was concise – just straight to the point. We don’t want him and don’t need him. None of “us.”
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by AussieKen on Jul 29, 2009 1:19 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I've come to the conclusion that Michael Vick
may not be a bad person and he truly deserves a second chance. As a kid, I loved feeding moths to spiders. It was cool. Eventually, I grew out of my sadistic ways because I was around people who preferred to catch and release moths in the house as opposed to kill them on the spot. Michael Vick may never have been around enough of those people to encourage some sort of empathetic epiphany. Since it is something that is learned, he should not become an “untouchable” in our society.
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by joel311 on Jul 29, 2009 12:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
for me i am just looking at him from a totally player stand point.. i dont think he is as good as they make him out to be.. he has the i will win the game mentality.. like he is the only player on the field..i just feel he wants the spot light and we dont want me me me type of guys. period
common sence says if you put a stick in it and stirr if it stinks.. stop.. toss the stick and just walk away.
by animal2020 on Jul 29, 2009 1:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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