Talkin' Mike Vick and Roger Goodell (and maybe Dante Stallworth)

One was at the federal level, the other at the state.

Also – intent is different. Vick knew what he was doing. He wanted to kill dogs and he killed dogs. He hung them. He electrocuted them. He drowned them. And he slammed them to the ground repeatedly until it was dead.

On the other hand, Stallworth drove drunk. Another disgusting act. But he did not intend to kill something or somebody. And the person he hit was jaywalking. Irresponsible act by Stallworth? Of course. But not quite as sick and psychotic as what Vick did. Vick must really have no soul or something.

Also – Vick lied right to the Commish’s face about his actions and only confessed once he was caught. He wasn’t sorry for what he did. He was sorry he got caught for doing it.

Stallworth – I believe – stopped at the scene to call 9-1-1. (If I recall correctly). He also turned him self in and didn’t try to lie to avoid getting caught. He showed real remorse. Vick did not.

That’s my 2 cents. Should they have the right to seek employment with an NFL team? Probably. But if I’m an owner, neither would ever be on my own team – that’s for sure.

it just shows how crappy our legal system is. Same with Vick’s punishment if you ask me. But they did their time and they deserve to have a job, I just see McDonald’s as more of the place for them.

With Vick, I hope he really does his part to speak out about dog fighting. He really screwed up his life and I guess he deserves to fix it.

The dude jumped in front of his car…he didnt veer off and hit someone on the sidewalk…if something like that happened to me and i went to jail for ten years id be pissed. i think what he got was deserved..it was an accident. hes not a criminal. what Vick did was a crime and he knew he was doing it.

I basically repaeated that. lol.

As I said then, Donte DID call 9-11 and waited for the police & ambulance. They guy he hit WAS jaywalking – which does not make Dante hitting him okay, it was just part of the facts that the prosecutor had to consider. He got what he got. He has expressed true remorse, I believe, from what I have read. He stood up and took it all, like a good person should.

As I said before, what Donte did was stupid. What Vick did was evil.

I will not get any burgers where Vick is serving – never know what kind of meat is in it!

we have a name for hillbillies who get behind the wheel after they have tossed back a few. TOTAL DUMBASSES. regardless of how it happened .. he should have never ever got behind the wheel if he was under the influance. he could have totally avoided that accident if he never got into his car. now dont go getting the idea that i am against drinking….hell i am all for it.. in fact i am for getting so shit faced that you pass out and therefore cant drive. cant kill anyone if ya passed out in the front yard.

does not deserve a second chance he did his with malicious intent, he doesn’t have a soul and he deserved to rot in jail for a very long time he got off easy. Stallworth its a different story, i live in miami people down here are crazy especially around that time he had no intent on hitting anybody, it was an accident simply that an unfortunate one, but an accident all the same. He took care of the mans family and simply ask for his forgiveness and they gave it to him. He deserves his second chance.

i was taught when i was younger to forgive but never forget…i think thats how michael vick should be treated, he spent two years in jail did not complain did his time and now hes out and deserves a second chance. did any of you people think that maybe he was scared and denied it to everyone because of this, yes when he was caught he admitted and thats wrong he should have owned up to his actions but once again i bet he was very scared of real jail time and the fact that he was letting everyone down. maybe i just see the good in everyone but i would give him a second chance. its okay for leonard little to play and have his fans love him, but no one can support vick? yes what he did was wrong but like i said he did his time didnt complain came back talk to the commishiner like a man and now deserves an oppurtunity at work just like the rest of us.

have you ever done anything illegal and the cops catch you, whats the first thing you do? you lie….you lie to protect yourself and because your afraid of the consequences…so yeah he could be scared of the consequences and still do it in the first place. also striker you think he should have been locked up longer? i think he got a raw deal in the first place, right before they indicted vick they changed the law in virginia from a misdermeanor to a felony, they knew they were getting close and they wanted to make an example of mike vick….im not saying what he did was right, infact i own a dog and i could never think of harming a dog, i just believe in second chances…if he can contribute positivly to my team i owuld have no problem with him on my team, i mean hes human he makes mistakes…yes it was a terrible terrible decision to get involved in that discusting business, but if you dont think he doesnt regret it your dead wrong after all he has lost the man regrets all of it and deserves his second chance

yeah but matty in that situation could you honestly say you wouldnt have done the same? i mean to save your own butt people will do stupid things…hell plax tried to get a whole hospital to pretend he wasnt even there just to save his…just to reiterate in no way do i condone what he did but sometimes we put these athletes on pedastools and dont realize they too make mistakes…him fighting dogs was not a mistake he meant to do that…but lying to us and the commish was..all he did was panic in the situation and lied like a lot of people would have done

Everyone seems to set aside the fact that Dante didn’t mean to kill anyone. Based on the facts his tragedy appeared to be more about wrong place wrong time… Sure driving high and drunk is not to be condoned, but many MANY of us are guilty of “just getting home” from an honest night of having some fun. I beleive Dante should have been punished more and more in line with what I’ve seen the average Joe get for instances.

Now Vick, he knowingly slaughtered dogs. Whether he physically did it or not, he signed the checks and he participating in many ways. I have a reall hard time buying into that “he knows not what he does” because dog fighting was as accepted in his community as bike riding. Vick may have committed a crime “withot realizing its severity” but any callous disregard for cruelty of an intelligent loving and domesticated animal is borderline insanity.

IMO Dante should have served more jailtime and Vick did his punishment. Certain occupations will ban you for life, but football is entertainment and it’s not the same as being a truck driver or doctor. Football players are not role models and people who subscribe to that are doomed parents. Let him play, let him learn, and God have mercy on his soul should he ever find himself near me and my dog.

The Pats are thinking about signing Vick, how disgusting lol. Why does it seem like the Pats are in every single story written on espn or yahoo….They the Yankees of football, they think they are all that and get tons of attention for it….sad sad sad

vick had been exposed to dog fighting since he was nearly 8 years old.

if its right in your community and your raised to believe that theres nothing wrong with killing dogs and thats the only opinion you’ve grown up with chances are when your old you arent gunna see anything wrong with dog fighting and get involved…doesn’t make it right…but its true