Poll: What will generate the most buzz once training camp begins?
by Matty I on Jul 27, 2009 12:30 PM EDT
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With training camp kicking off for the Miami Dolphins in less than a week, there's no doubt that the media and fans alike will begin following the team more closely now. We'll have many practice reports to read. We'll have quotes from players and coaches. We'll have opinions from anyone who wants to share one. And needless to say, there is always some buzz generated as camp progresses.
So what will most of this year's training camp buzz be about in South Florida? There are a ton of options. Some possibilities include:
-The return of Jason Taylor and how he gets used in Paul Pasqualoni's defense.
-How the two rookie cornerbacks perform day in and day out.
-How Pat White is utilized and how he performs.
-Chad Henne's continued development.
-The physical condition of Ronnie Brown and his potential contract extension.
-Possibility of Ted Ginn's breakout season as he enters his third year.
-The battle at wide receiver and how the depth chart shakes out.
-The battle for the remaining undetermined starting spot along the offensive line (RG).
-Cameron Wake's performance transitioning from the CFL to the NFL.
-The 'Wildcat" in general.
-Who steps up as the team's backup nose tackle.
And those are just some of the possibilities. So cast your vote for what you think will be the topic generating the most buzz once camp begins and then tell us why you voted the way you did below.
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woohooo i think i got a first!!!!
i think the talking heads will focus on jason more then anything else
common sence says if you put a stick in it and stirr if it stinks.. stop.. toss the stick and just walk away.
by animal2020 on Jul 27, 2009 12:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think the rookie corners
but these are some pressing issues… Were putting alot of trust in these corners though, and they will try to start
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by BSerious72 on Jul 27, 2009 12:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
you guys think pat white??? awww come on now.. i think that will be second topic. this is the media your talking about.. they will be rehashing the so called jason/bill fued all over again.
common sence says if you put a stick in it and stirr if it stinks.. stop.. toss the stick and just walk away.
by animal2020 on Jul 27, 2009 12:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I only voted the wildcat
because a lot of non-fans think they won’t get any use out of it this season so I’m looking to see what happens
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by dolphinsinbuffalo on Jul 27, 2009 12:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
haha oh i know they think teams def-cord. already have it all figured out.. soooo dumb. they figured out the shot gun to and the i formation.. but do teams stop using them?? ummm hell NO.
they act like the wildcat has only one play in it.
common sence says if you put a stick in it and stirr if it stinks.. stop.. toss the stick and just walk away.
by animal2020 on Jul 27, 2009 12:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree..
the Wildcat is something that they came up with on the fly last year to help jump start the offense. Now the coaching staff has had a whole offseason to work on it. I cant wait to see what new ideas they come up with.
by texascowpunk on Jul 27, 2009 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think locally......
the focus will be on the rookie corners..but, nationally all the focus will be on Pat White.
by scbrandon on Jul 27, 2009 1:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
agreed
and throw JT in there while your at it
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by BSerious72 on Jul 27, 2009 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Due to the disappointing performance of Eric Green
and the inadequacy of Jason Allen there is a huge hole at RCB
So I feel like the focus will be on which rookie CB (if any) will be able to fill that hole.
If one of the rookies does not step up to fill the hole or struggles to fill it (and the hole at Nickel CB), it could be disastrous for the season.
The other topics, though interesting, don’t have as catastrophic consequences, provided the incumbent starters stay healthy.
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by DolphDallas on Jul 27, 2009 1:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
“sneaks behind matty and stuffs the ballot box.” if it aint drama it aint news.
common sence says if you put a stick in it and stirr if it stinks.. stop.. toss the stick and just walk away.
by animal2020 on Jul 27, 2009 2:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I guess the Wildpat situation.
As soon as Pat White lines up in that formation everyone will be going crazy. But the return of JT will have people talkign a lot too. Im not sure which one more though
by Ham420 on Jul 27, 2009 3:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
or how often the spread offense is used.....
will be interesting
by CaliPhinsFan on Jul 27, 2009 3:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
it should be about ted ginn because this is a huge year for him.
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by el presidente 00 on Jul 27, 2009 3:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm excited for Ginn.
I am considering sporting his jersey this year to show my support. There are so many jerseys I want to get this season, but I’m limiting myself to one. It feels good to have so many options for once 8)
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by joel311 on Jul 28, 2009 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mostly the rookie corners...
…but I’m anxious to see how Cam Wake’s hype will translate to NFL gameplay. He’s a sack monster up north, eh? but will he be more than a STer for the Phinzz? I’m hoping he came to us in ass-kick mode. We’ll see when the pads go on and the bullets fly…
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by PhearThePhinzz on Jul 27, 2009 4:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
MY interest will be focused on Patrick Turner and the rookie CBs
but the media will have “WildCat Fever” like they were last year (not that I can blame them too much, it is interesting).
by SDefee on Jul 27, 2009 4:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I want to know...
who are the 4 people that voted for back-up nose tackle????
by NewJerseyphins on Jul 27, 2009 5:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cam Wake
I think he’ll create a buzz around the entire NFL.
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by uncle finster on Jul 27, 2009 5:28 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
... agreed here..!
I think this guy will make it so the sports media can’t ignore him. His pass rushing is gonna open some eyes… I’m thinking Derrick Thomas here..!!
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by Alpha6 on Jul 28, 2009 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Corners
I think they will keep Pat White and the wildcat under raps during practices so they don’t let things out of the bag, but the corners progression will be very important since that is our glaring weakness besides NT backups.
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by Phintastic on Jul 27, 2009 5:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I voted Pat White, because I think he will make the most buzz, which leads to the Wildcat buzz...
But I am most interested in hearing how the CBs are doing. That’s where we need help, and I am hoping to hear that those two are doing well!
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by Mosul_DolFan on Jul 27, 2009 8:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
But the #1 buzz topic was not up there as a choice
The talking airheads will be full of 2 people – Vick and Favre. And that’s all!
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by PhinsTifosi on Jul 27, 2009 8:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
buzz killer
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by Phintastic on Jul 27, 2009 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lololol well played
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by joel311 on Jul 28, 2009 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
pat white definitely
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by Davone_Is_BessT on Jul 27, 2009 9:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I doubt we see alot of the Wildcat this preseason
Or we wont see anything new, Sparano wont tip his hand and I’m sure this front office is none to pleased that a bit of info got leaked already
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by Patssuck456 on Jul 27, 2009 10:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Zactly
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by uncle finster on Jul 27, 2009 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would keep an eye on The CBs, WRs and the 2 young QBs.
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by Patssuck456 on Jul 27, 2009 10:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Corners...but...
It’s amazing to see how quiet the Chad Henne bandwagon has gotten. Some less than stellar reports….actually almost daily…from the earlier mini workouts seemed to have cooled the frenzy.
Personally I think CP could take us to the SB if we had the weapons.
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by oceantracks on Jul 27, 2009 11:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think the weapons for CP10 are there. As everyone has said, he does not have the long ball.
As has been previously stated, the similarities between this team and 72 Undefeated are strong!
CP10 = Griese
Ronnie, RunRickyRun, Polite = Morris, Csonka, Kiick
09 defense = Killer Bees
Why not?
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by PhinsTifosi on Jul 27, 2009 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Comparing this years team to the 72 undefeated team?
That might be quite a stretch. The 72 Dolphins had a much more effective running attack (over 200 ypg), not only because of having a better, deeper backfield, but because they had an offensive line built for the run. Our defense is much too young and inexperienced to compare to the dominant no-name defense of the 72 undefeated team (1st in pts against, and total yards). While I do have high hopes for the Dolphins this year, I don’t think they’re even close to the 72 team.
by luvs2drnk on Jul 28, 2009 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was pointing out that this team is the most similar to 72 that has been there for a looooooooooooooooong time.
I think this backfield IS deep and CAN run for 200 ypg. The O line is better this year than last especially with addition of Grove and a year under Long’s rookie belt and with the rest of the starters healthy.
The D is good and getting better. Are they as good as 72? No, certainly not in 1st half of season. Can they be as good as 72? We will see by mid-season.
Maybe 72 can be repeated in 2010. I think they will show us all some stuff this year though.
(ps- sorry for the brain fart on 72 D – KB’s was a little later – lol I was too tired and went to beddy bye right after post)
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by PhinsTifosi on Jul 28, 2009 8:34 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
200 rushing ypg?
My, are we setting our sights high! Even the collective efforts of Csonka, Kiick, and Morris were only able to do that once (1972 for 211/game). And that was a team built to run, run , run, and run it some more. They had a run to pass % of 70 to 30. We haven’t had a team close to the 72 team ever, and I’m talking even remotely close (84 or 85 would be your closest comparison, but they were just a pass, pass, pass, and pass some more teams, without a defense). I think this might be our best hope, and I know this probably isn’t a nice thing to say. That Pennington gets injured, (as he usually does a year after a solid performance) and Henne steps in al a Earl Morrall and plays at the level we all think he can. His ability to use our receivers speed, will open up the run lanes for Ronnie and Ricky to maybe flirt with your 200 yd hopes. But this is all a moot point if the defense doesn’t step up.
by luvs2drnk on Jul 28, 2009 9:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We are saying basically the same things here. I said that the trio we have is CAPABLE of
200 ypg, IF the O line plays up to expectations. I did not say avg 200 ypg game. And it does look to me, IMHO, like the FO has tweaked the O line for more running. No, not 70-30 like 72. I would guess more like 45-55, as an average.
It is true that good running opens up the pass game and good passing opens up the run game.
I was also saying that this team more resembles 72 by the players 1 on 1. Griese & Morrall were basically the same QB – very effective and efficient game managers. CP10 is cut from the same cloth. Especially with regard to turnovers.
Yes the D has to step up and play to the max. If they do, then God help the rest of the NFL!
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by PhinsTifosi on Jul 28, 2009 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
In expectations we think alike,
but I don’t think by prior performance they compare at all to the 72 team. There are a few similarities 1 on 1, but very few. QB may be your only one now that I think about it. Although that means only CP10, cause Henne has a cannon. Past that, you might have had a chance with Ricky in his prime. But with the current players, in the roles they are in, they don’t compare. Ronnie as the feature back, doesn’t compare to Csonka. Even Ricky as a back up doesn’t compare to Morris. WR is the closest you’ll get, but Warfield was a HOF, and averaged over 20 ypc that year. Any other comparisons don’t even come close, especially on defense. You can’t base comparisons on what you are hoping or expecting the team to do. Now if the team is undefeated by mid-point in the season, let the comparisons fly. By the way, YPG = yards per game, and that is an average.
by luvs2drnk on Jul 28, 2009 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okay, I meant at least a couple of 200 yd games not season avg (that would be 3200 yds/season!)
I am thinking that Ronnie gets 1300 RunRickyRun gets 600 to 700 and Polite 200 to 300 for the year. That would total 2100 to 2300 for the year. That would be on the same scale as 72, with how different the NFL as a whole is now.
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by PhinsTifosi on Jul 28, 2009 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Replace Polite with Cobbs,
and I think that’s a distinct possibility.
Why are you forgetting Cobbs?
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by joel311 on Jul 28, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dunno - old maybe?
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by PhinsTifosi on Jul 28, 2009 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, Cobbs would make more sense.
Polite is strictly a short yardage option, as seen by his 9 for 10 last year on 3rd or 4th downs with less than a yard to go. To be on the same scale as the 72 running trio, the Dolphins would have to run for over 3300 yards. Remember, that 72 team averaged 211 yds rushing per game. But that team was built strictly for the run, just as when Marino was here, the team was built strictly for the pass. Shula had tunnel vision when it came to the offensive side of the ball. This is the first time in a long time the Dolphins have finally had a balanced team both running and passing.
by luvs2drnk on Jul 29, 2009 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
First I just really like Polite. Maybe its just that
9 of 10 1st down conversions. Its been a very long time since we had that in the backfield.
When I said to scale, I was talking about how the game as a whole (college and NFL) has become much more pass happy. 2100 to 2300 yards rushing would come close to leading the NFL today. 3300 would blow away the rest of the NFL today. If a QB has a lot less than 4000 passing he is considered avg or maybe even a bust. (250 ypg).
What team had the most rushing yards last year? How many did they have?
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by PhinsTifosi on Jul 29, 2009 12:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not sure about less than 4000 yards being average.
4000 yds doesn’t happen as often as you might think. 3000 yds passing is usually set as the barometer. Only 39 QB’s in the history of the NFL have thrown for over 4000 yds in a season. And to support your argument about the changing game, before 1979, only one player had ever passed for over 4000 yds (Namath, 4007, in 1967).
by luvs2drnk on Jul 29, 2009 1:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the info. I thought I was in the ballpark, (OB that is)
Broadway Joe Willie was a man before his time anyway!
So basically I am not far off in my comparo. So maybe 09 or 10 is the Phins year! I simply can not wait!
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by PhinsTifosi on Jul 29, 2009 9:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the only reason the Wildcat or Pat White gets any buzz,
is because the media isn’t going to see it during the open practices. All the new wrinkles they have probably installed aren’t going to be shown until the regular season. We may get a sneak peek at a few of the changes during the preseason, but not much. So the media is going to speculate on what new plays they’ve added to the formation, and what role White will have in it.
by luvs2drnk on Jul 27, 2009 11:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
CP10 will be an issue. He can take us there, weak arm or not
…IF we can do something (are you listening Ted Jr?) about our YAC stats. Not comparing teams or anything, but Bob Griese and CP10 were/are excellent game managers with so-so arms. Montana didn’t have a gun but I’d rank him in the top five ever. I’ll take darts over bombs as a game weapon any day.
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by PhearThePhinzz on Jul 28, 2009 7:13 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed!
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by PhinsTifosi on Jul 28, 2009 8:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well said.
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by joel311 on Jul 28, 2009 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Over 1,000 votes! I had no idea that there were THAT many people who read
this blog!
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by PhinsTifosi on Jul 28, 2009 7:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
oh there are more than that
1,000 is a little disappointing
by Matty I on Jul 29, 2009 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh. sorry. I just have not seen that many votes in any poll here before.
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by PhinsTifosi on Jul 29, 2009 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heh heh heh.... our "Handles" are known nationally... cool, huh?
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by Alpha6 on Jul 29, 2009 12:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Internationally - can't forget about our friend from Sao Paulo or the one from Japan, etc . . .
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by PhinsTifosi on Jul 29, 2009 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
True dat!!
… it’s a world blog… WOW!
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