Miami Dolphins Training Camp Primer: The tight race at tight end
Yesterday we focused on the battle that the Miami Dolphins will have in training camp at the wide receiver position. But there's a chance that what happens at the receiver position could impact how the tight end depth chart shapes up heading into the regular season. So it only makes sense that we turn our attention to the tight end race today.
There are a lot of different storylines within this position - just as there was within the receiver battle - to make the usually uneventful tight end training camp battle quite interesting. You got contract issues, injuries, rookies, and a converted wide receiver. What more could you want?
THE QUICK BREAKDOWN
Virtual locks to make roster: Anthony Fasano
On the bubble: David Martin, Joey Haynos, John Nalbone, Ernest Wilford
Long shots: Jared Bronson
THE QUESTIONS
Right off the bat, the first issue that arises is the long-term plans for the position. As it stands now, all three tight ends from the 2008 season are in contract years. Anthony Fasano and David Martin are both scheduled to be free agents following the 2009 season. Joey Haynos is as well, though he'd be an "exclusive rights free agent" - meaning if the Dolphins want him back after the season, they can get him cheaply and easily. Will the team's thoughts on the young tight ends influence which veterans make the team this season?
Further complicating matters is David Martin's recovery from offseason sports hernia surgery. Will he be ready when camp begins in less than two weeks? If not, will the Dolphins consider stashing Martin on the PUP list to begin the season?
THE NUMBERS GAME
So how many tight ends will the Dolphins keep? Most teams keep three - and odds are that's how many Miami will keep. However, with Ernest Wilford working at the tight end position a lot this offseason in an attempt to revive his career, it's conceivable that the Dolphins keep two tight ends - and Wilford, the "quasi-tight end," as the third. He would double as the fifth or sixth receiver as well - possibly freeing up a roster spot for somebody else to make the team at another position.
Like I said above, David Martin's health is a question mark. We don't really know how far along Martin is in his recovery from sports hernia surgery. We do know that he didn't participate in most, if not all, offseason practices. But he was an underrated asset to this offense last year. He made a number of key plays. His 440 yards receiving last year was the fifth on the team and his three touchdown catches were the second most in '08. He's also a versatile tight end. You'll remember that Martin lined up a lot at receiver following Greg Camarillo's season-ending injury last year. Simply releasing him outright probably isn't something the Dolphins are in a rush to do because the young receivers on the roster are basically unknown assets at this point. Putting Martin on the PUP to start the season would give the Dolphins some time to see what they have in the young guys while David gets 100% healthy.
WHERE DOES THAT LEAVE US?
Anthony Fasano is a lock to make the team and start. I love the way he plays and I expect him to get even better following his first career season as a starter. His acquisition last offseason was highway robbery at its finest courtesy of Bill Parcells and Jeff Ireland.
Joey Haynos is an intriguing guy. He had just two catches last year - one for a touchdown. But he's 6'8 and provides the quarterback with a huge target. The Dolphins are believed to be high on the kid. He'll be entering his second season now with one full year of NFL experience under his belt. It'll be very interesting to see how he comes along in camp and how the Dolphins use him.
John Nalbone was a fifth round pick out of Monmouth this year but is far from a sure thing to make the team. But there's a reason he was drafted as high as he was. He's got good size (6'4, 255) and speed (ran his 40 in the 4.6s) and produced as a pass catcher and run blocker at Monmouth. But he was uncharacteristically inconsistent catching the football during OTAs and minicamps this past offseason. And he's the kind of player you can slip through waivers and place on the practice squad for the year - giving him time to work with the team, learn the offense, and improve his game.
The undrafted rookie out of Central Washington, Jared Bronson, is said to be a very good athlete and was labeled a "sleeper" heading into the draft as a pass-catching receiver. But he'll be a long shot to stick around with two proven vets, a second-year player who the team likes, a rookie drafted earlier, and a former receiver who has NFL experience.
THE KEY BATTLE
The key battle here is really between all four "bubble" tight ends. But if I had to pick one, I'd say it's Haynos against Nalbone. Both are practice squad eligible. And I think that one of these two will indeed be placed on Miami's practice squad - assuming no team claims him off waivers. But the kicker here is that the winner of this position battle could actually be the player placed on the practice squad. Theoretically, the Dolphins could keep Fasano and Martin as their top two tight ends and then keep Wilford around as a WR/TE "swingman" - in which case the winner of this battle ends up on the practice squad. On the other hand, the Wilford experiment could fail and the Dolphins could keep Fasano, Martin, and the winner of this battle - meaning the loser winds up on the practice squad. Lots of possibilities here to consider.
THE PREDICTION
If I had to guess right now, I'd say that Anthony Fasano and David Martin (provided he's healthy) both make the team again. I'd say that Joey Haynos has the inside track to the final tight end spot - meaning Monmouth's John Nalbone lands on Miami's practice squad.
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isnt nalbone a lock as well?? they gave him a multi year contract. i mean sounds silly to give him that then cut him dont it?
common sence says if you put a stick in it and stirr if it stinks.. stop.. toss the stick and just walk away.
by animal2020 on Jul 22, 2009 12:55 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No he is NOT a lock.
He still has to make the team. He is only guaranteed his relatively “small” signing bonus. They must like him though because he signed really early. The potential I can see with a guy like Nalbone is that if he can be similar to Fasano, they can disguise some things in their offense and kind of be interchangeable. Hopefully he’s not still dropping passes.
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by AussieKen on Jul 22, 2009 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
every rookie gets a multiyear deal - even 7th rounders.
That’s just how it’s structured. But he could easily be waived and put on the practice squad. All that matters is the guaranteed money – which is very low for 4th through 7th rounders.
by Matty I on Jul 22, 2009 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i say
anthony the lock, martin as secon if healthy, and haynos he came through in the red zone for that one touchdown he deserves to stick around
by Striker0418 on Jul 22, 2009 2:32 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
imho
(1)Fasano is an obvious lock, (2)Martin if he isn’t on PUP, (3)Haynos only because 6 ‘8 is to hard to hid on the practice squad, someone will grab him. Nalbone goes on PS and Wilford is gone unless Martin starts off on PUP then everyone moves up a notch with Nalbone still going on PS. I hope I’m wrong about Wilford because it would be great to have that extra roster spot open up for maybe more depth on the O-line.
by KoolHand on Jul 22, 2009 2:45 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Tradebait
I believe that Fasano will be kept, Martin will be PUP (just going on the fact of limited summer work), Haynos is kept, they try to stash Nalbone on PS and Wilford is straight up smokescreened. Look at what he can do! He is multitalented! Round 4-5 pick? Ehh, sure. Why not.
by Jaif on Jul 22, 2009 2:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Erh
Haynos also kept. I meant that. Really.
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by Jaif on Jul 22, 2009 2:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by Mosul_DolFan on Jul 22, 2009 9:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why not keep 4 TE's?
Over the past 20 years the Dolphins have kept 4 TE’s on the roster 11 out of 20 times. 14 if you count the fact Byars was listed as FB/TE. That way they could have 3 true TE’s with Wilford playing the dual WR/TE role. I know everyone has been down on Wilford and would like to see him gone. But there’s a reason he’s still on the roster, and it’s not because of the cap hit the Dolphins would take. Roster spots are too valuable to let one sit idle with a player who doesn’t play. Which would make someone think, why keep Wilford if he was inactive for so many games last year. There’s more to this story, Parcells and co. are just better than most at keeping secrets.
by luvs2drnk on Jul 22, 2009 2:51 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
it IS the cap hit
wilford is balls that y he only had 3 catches.
no need for 4 te’s imo
last years te’s were a perfect fit. no change needed.
instead 4 te’s id rather keep 6 wr’s. we have more depth/talent at that position
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by Davone_Is_BessT on Jul 22, 2009 3:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wilford only had 3 catches,
cause he was only active for 7 games, and he was lucky to play even in those games. I was basing my statement on what the Dolphins have done in the past. And that leads me to believe they are more inclined to go with 4 TE’s with Wilford being a WR/TE. So technically we could have it both ways if they keep 5 WR’s other than Wilford.
by luvs2drnk on Jul 22, 2009 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Fasano and Martin are locks,
Martin caught just as many passes as Fas, this FO likes Martins versatility, the rest are all ?s.
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by uncle finster on Jul 22, 2009 9:01 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yea but Martin recovering from surgery
if he is 100% by the start of the reg season, i think it will be him and Fasano, with Fasano the starter, and Joey Haynos…if not i think Nalbone will replace Martin while Martin is on the PUP list and getting healthy
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by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Jul 22, 2009 9:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's playing his best football,
and he just turned 30.
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by uncle finster on Jul 22, 2009 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by MiamihastheDolphins.... on Jul 22, 2009 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good stuff
Matty as usual you are right on point. Although this position is easier to figure out! Did you happen to see the segment last night on the NFL network with Joey Porter giving fans an inside look at the facility? The dolphin hater Rich Eisen had the gull to say "What’s next for the dolphins… To Live Crew?" when referring about our new managements moves getting celebrities to buy in on the dolphins. I’m sick his cynical and bias view of the dolphins. Does anyone else see his attitude?
by Jam-out-jay on Jul 22, 2009 9:57 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I didn't think he said anything that some Dolphin fans weren't thinking.
But Eisen is a Jets fan – and he doesn’t try to hide it. With that said, he’s always been pretty fair when discussing the Dolphins. And he really got into the Wildcat during highlights last year.
by Matty I on Jul 22, 2009 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
True
It’s true that he is a jets fan and make no bones about it but as a media reporter he is supposed to have a non bias report and he often has that stupid tone in his voice and cynical attitude.. Do you remember when Chad came on the show around the super bowl he kept asking Chad the same stupid question " So Chad you can tell us that you wanted to get back at the jets" As if peninington is going to fall into that trap, He is always quick to say that the League is going to shut the wildcat down. I’m just saying that jets fans suck. Even the ones in the media
by Jam-out-jay on Jul 22, 2009 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pat White
If I’m not mistaken don’t we have to allow a spot somewhere in here for our new Pat White experiment. How does that effect the numbers at both positions?
by D0lphins4Life on Jul 22, 2009 10:43 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Your very right
however i think that that dolphins are going to dress Peninington and Pat at QB and if Peninington goes down i believe they can dress Henne…
by Phin king on Jul 22, 2009 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gotcha!
So if for some odd reason CP10 stinks it up and needs to be pulled he’ll have to fake an injury. (lol)
by D0lphins4Life on Jul 22, 2009 10:56 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
in terms of roster spots...
I don’t think we do because he’s going to be the third QB on the roster regardless.
I also don’t think he’s going to see much time – if any – at receiver. He’s a QB. He’s been practicing as a QB. And I think that’s that for now.
by Matty I on Jul 22, 2009 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn’t think he’d play much or any at receiver but, weren’t there discussions on how to get around the league rules on getting him in for the wildcat. so you think all that’s out the window? Too many valuable players to take a chance on losing a roster spot to someone who might get a couple snaps?
by D0lphins4Life on Jul 22, 2009 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The way around the whole active/inactive issue
is simply to list White as the 2nd QB – and Henne as the 3rd. That means White is active on gamedays and Henne won’t be. But as the 3rd QB, he can enter the game in the 4th quarter with no issues. Or he can come in earlier, but then both Pennington and White can’t come back into the game.
This way, Pennington is your gameday QB. White can run the Wildcat and whatnot. And if Pennington gets hurt, you either go with White to finish out the game or put in Henne – meaning White can’t re-enter.
by Matty I on Jul 22, 2009 11:31 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is he a QB first?
I read that they had White working as a WR, but not during public practices. Hate to seem paranoid, but so many moves by this regime have blindsided all of us. They’re great at leading everyone on….Don’t want to dominate TE talk with Pat White, but his role does affect the WR ranks, which in turn affects the TE. How will things shake out IF they list him as WR?
by Red Dog on Jul 22, 2009 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly what I brought up yesterday w/WR...
I think all this talk of PW being a QB first was smoke. They’ve been working him at screens as a WR and he only makes the Wildcat pop if he is a semi-regular WR. How will it effect the TE? I love Martin, but I think his age might make him and Wilford trade bait. I think Haynos stays, and I don’t see them waiving Nalbone. Resign Fasano A.S.A.P.!
by Red Dog on Jul 22, 2009 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fasano, Haynos, and Bronson
Martin begins the year on PUP, then is placed on IR and given his release
Nalbone is placed on the Practice Squad due to a poor performance in pre-season I predict
Wilford will be offered in trades and then released.
I like Jared Bronson, Good Speed, Good Route Running, Good Hands.
The blocking they can wait to develop in him. Can’t be any worse than David Martin
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by DolphDallas on Jul 22, 2009 11:15 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Trades!
That opens up a couple of options at both TE and WR. Don’t you think.
by D0lphins4Life on Jul 22, 2009 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He can easily be worse then D Martin,
like every TE we had in camp last year, except Fas.
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by uncle finster on Jul 22, 2009 12:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
david martin was amazing last year
what team were u watchin?
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by Davone_Is_BessT on Jul 22, 2009 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
how often do u see an #2
tightend with those numbers
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by Davone_Is_BessT on Jul 22, 2009 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly, they had no problem putting him in,
and they did it often, and he produced.
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by uncle finster on Jul 22, 2009 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Special Teams
Do Haynos, Nalbone or Bronson have any special teams experience? This could be a major factor.
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by Phintastic on Jul 22, 2009 11:18 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think Nalbone could land a spot on special teams
he is certainly quick enough for ST, and knowing this coaching staff they do like to try every availible option for their players
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by Patssuck456 on Jul 22, 2009 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
first post!!!
I agree with the majority of you guys saying Fasano, Martin, then Haynos. I highly doubt this FO will leave Haynos off this team considering our lack of size when we got into the redzone last season.
by Tdot_Fin_fan on Jul 22, 2009 12:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
seems to me we was vastly improved in the red zone last year as opposed to the years before that. my lord it was such a breath of life to see us put points on the board inside the 20 then settling for 3 or worse yet none at all. size helps yes but it is not the end all of scoring. we have a o-line now that can help our backs punch it in.
our WR were getting open more they keep that up and size means nothing.. cammy , bess and the others will do the job asked of them.
it all means points in the red zone.
but bill has always liked to use his TE’s so i would not be surprised to see four of them in the roster. and yes i know bill is not the coach…..BUUUUUTTT who you think our coach learned under??
common sence says if you put a stick in it and stirr if it stinks.. stop.. toss the stick and just walk away.
by animal2020 on Jul 22, 2009 12:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
my 2 cents
fasano and martin will be back, and i am more than willing to gamble on haynos or nalbone. either of the two than trying an experiment on ernest wilford. I mean we signed this guy to be our receiver and now that he cant cut it we have to experiment on him for a TE spot. I say give it to any of the kids with hunger in their eyes. just not wilford im done with him.
by dolphin23 on Jul 22, 2009 1:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
makes sense
I will take that prediction. I have no problem with that.
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by dolfan7171 on Jul 22, 2009 2:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Matty, there's a typo:
“Will the team’s feelings on the young tight ends will influence which veterans make the team this season?”
You inserted an extra “will” :P Feel free to delete my post too :)
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by joel311 on Jul 22, 2009 2:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
No prob, they don't call me Grammar Nazi for nothin!
Actually, they don’t call me Grammar Nazi at all :\
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by joel311 on Jul 22, 2009 3:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha
would u liked to be called the Grammar Nazi?
by Matty I on Jul 22, 2009 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
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