Around The AFC East: Ranking the defensive tackles
For last week's divisional rankings, we focused on linebackers. This week, we will stick with the defensive side of the ball and focus our attention on the division's defensive tackles.
And this division has some really good guys clogging up the middle. Please note, though, that I've put the most emphasis on the starters rather than on the depth.
Be sure to head over to the other AFC East blogs - Buffalo Rumblings, Pats Pulpit, and Gang Green Nation - to see how they have stacked up this division's defensive tackles. My rankings are below.
MATTY'S RANKINGS OF AFC EAST DEFENSIVE TACKLES
Why are the Patriots at the top of my list? Two words - Vince Wilfork. He's an absolute beast at nose tackle for the Patriots. He does his job of eating up blockers unbelievably well. And he even makes some plays himself. He had 45 solo tackles last season to go with a couple sacks. But it's his ability to take on blockers as well as apply some heat up the middle on the quarterback that gives New England the top spot in my rankings.
Ron Brace is also a pretty formidable backup for Wilfork. He was a guy I know many Dolphin fans were high on entering the draft and he's going to fit in quite well in NE behind Wilfork. And you never know - Wilfork is scheduled to be a free agent following the '09 season. If Brace impresses this year, could the Patriots possibly let Wilfork walk? And would he walk all the way back home South Florida? I'm just saying...
It's hard to compare the defensive tackles in a 4-3 alignment to those in a 3-4. But the Bills do have a couple of very good tackles working the middle of their defensive line. Marcus Stroud is a monster at 6'6, 310 pounds. He does an excellent job against both the run and pass. He had 5.5 tackles for loss in '08 to go with his 2.5 sacks. And even when he isn't getting all the way to the QB, he's using his long arms to knock down passes - tallying 7 pass deflections last season.
Next to him is the underrated young DT Kyle Williams. Williams is only entering his fourth season since being a 5th round pick in 2006. But he's already started 43 games at DT for Buffalo - including all 32 the past 2 seasons. Last year, he picked up 2 sacks and 4.5 tackles for loss playing next to Stroud. Together, he and Stroud present problems for the interior of any offensive line they face.
There are many things, it seems, that Dolphin fans can't agree on. But Jason Ferguson's value to this team is one thing all Fin fans understand. Ferguson doesn't put up impressive numbers by any means. But he does his job as the anchor in the middle of Miami's 3-4 defense and he does it well. He effectively holds his ground in the middle and will tie up two blockers on a consistent basis. But that's not to say he doesn't make the occasional play here and there. In fact, Ferguson was second in the division among all defensive tackles in tackles for loss. His 5 tackles for a loss only trailed Marcus Stroud by .5 tackles. And that's with Stroud not having to endure playing the nose in a 3-4 and with Jason coming off the field on 3rd down most of the time.
It's unclear at this point who will back up Ferguson this season, though. And at the age of 34, Jason will need more time on the sidelines to remain effective throughout a full 16 game regular season. Paul Soliai will have the first crack at it in camp. He played surprisingly not bad when he was given the opportunity last season. But his consistency must improve - as does his conditioning.
I'm fully prepared for Jets fans to come and attack me for this ranking. But that's fine. It's not that I think Kris Jenkins is a bad player. The thing is - I don't think he's as great as some in the media want you to believe. He's a massive individual and, because of that, wears down pretty quickly in a season. Last year, Jenkins looked dominant the first half of the season. But then he began to progressively go down hill - and conditioning has to be a major reason why. But the bottom line here is that during the most important stretch of the season - the final third of the season - Jenkins played average at best. Over the Jets' final five games of 2008, Jenkins tallied only 0.5 tackles for loss and no sacks.
More importantly, the Jets simply couldn't stop the run in those final five games. During their first 11, the Jets allowed just 78 yards rushing per game and surrendered just 3.4 yards-per-carry. But over those critical final five games of the year, Jenkins simply had no gas left - which led to opponents averaging 132 yards per game and 4.3 yards-per-carry against New York. The Jets were 1-4 in those games and went from potential Super Bowl contender to out of the playoffs. Most will point the finger at Brett Favre for that collapse. But the Jets couldn't stop the run - and a lot of that had to do with Kris Jenkins being ineffective at taking on blockers and clogging up the middle.
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Good post Matty....
I think this is the last season for Soliai to show that he can be the starter for the future…He has a lot of potential to be dominant as long as he lays off the triple cheeseburgers and acts like a professional..
by scbrandon on Jul 17, 2009 8:09 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey Matty
I agree with your post, but who would you consider to have to most talent for the future. Comparing rookies. Would you still give the edge to the Pats or will it tilt in a different direction?
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by EverybodyLovesDolphins on Jul 17, 2009 10:00 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Edge to the Pats still
Wilfork is just now entering the prime of his career and Ron Brace is going to be very, very good – in my opinion.
by Matty I on Jul 17, 2009 10:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully not sounding like a homer
I agree. I think Brace was a real value pick for the Pats. Hopefully he can get some NFL reps in and gain experience.
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by MaPatsFan on Jul 17, 2009 10:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn, I wish I could write like you Matty....
Excellent snippet on the D-Tackles! The Jesters might take umbrage on the ranking, but where the heck do they think they would rank? It will be difficult to argue your analysis, especially explaining the end-of-year collapse of last season. Though Jenkins was not the ONLY reason for their losses, he was the beginning.
Paul will be better this year!!
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by Alpha6 on Jul 17, 2009 10:49 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
IMO Favre was the beginning,
Jenkins was the nail in the coffin.
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by joel311 on Jul 17, 2009 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Jenkins isnt hurt then he's too tired to play
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by Patssuck456 on Jul 19, 2009 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Over at Gang Green Nation they ranked 1st the . . . (drum roll please)
Well, what do you think?
The JJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJJets!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Methinks they are watching different games/OTAs/TC/etc when they evaluate their team than EVERYONE else!
by PhinsTifosi on Jul 17, 2009 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Patriots ranked The Jets first as well.
Seems like it lends a bit of credibility to the ranking.
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by joel311 on Jul 20, 2009 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i know
people will prolly question my fan hood but i wud have to have rank the dolphins last in the ranking for DTs.
11/16 games kris jenkins did his job and was one of the best in the league at it.
while ferguson was on and off and he did a good job taking up blockers like hes supposed to but didnt collapse the line. IMO DT is probably our worst position. i think we shouldve addressed it high in the draft but we didnt. no big FA’s either.
but being ranked last in a divison with wilfork, stroud, jenkins is not bad at all. In almost any other division we wouldve been 1-2. but this divison has prolly 3 out of the best 5 defensive tackles in the league
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by Davone_Is_BessT on Jul 17, 2009 12:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What are you, some kind of mediator..? (smilin & gigglin)
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by Alpha6 on Jul 17, 2009 12:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with Davone..
We r weak at DT and we didnt address that in the draf, not even in the late rounds. Anyway, it was a great post and who care what the propellers have to say?, The explanation givenby Matty were sound and with good argumenst
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by Aleta on Jul 17, 2009 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yup
theres not a GIANT difference between stroud,jenkins,ferguson
wilfork though is just beast.
i think matty ranked the DTs in order of impact. the 1-15 year we were horrendous again the run and this year we were above average-good impact. the jets didnt make the playoffs because the d-line played bad at the end-bad impact.
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by Davone_Is_BessT on Jul 17, 2009 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can't put Ferguson in the same category as a healthy Jenkins.
If The Jets had some real conditioning, Jenkins could have gone all season.
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by joel311 on Jul 20, 2009 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gensing anyone..?
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by Alpha6 on Jul 20, 2009 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with you Davone
While I think the LB’s in this division, for the most part, suck, I think the DT position is very good. I would take any of the starting DT’s in the division on my team and be very happy with that. But, as good as I think he is, Ferguson would be last on the list. He is probably in the top 12 in the entire league, but last in the division.
by ct1361 on Jul 17, 2009 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL... I'm beginning to think you go down a crowded up escalator... ;-]
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by Alpha6 on Jul 17, 2009 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A very good, fair and honest assessment Matty,
excellent write up, IMO, JF is a top 5 NT, and as you said very difficult to compare to DTs, and a difficult div. to rank, these guys are the real “beasts of the east”.
I particularly like the fact that you mention Jenkins season, he came in with a bang, but went out with a whimper, It’s not how you start, it’s how you finish.
I know it doesn’t really mean anything, but I’m rec’n this post on general principle.
by uncle finster on Jul 17, 2009 5:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Teaser! Where's the rec..?
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by Alpha6 on Jul 17, 2009 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL, thanx I forgot it,
I got knocked off line right after I posted that, forgot to come back and rec.
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by uncle finster on Jul 17, 2009 7:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fergy needs help
This is a very good article. Rome wasn’t built in a day, and neither will the Dolphins be rebuilt in two seasons. We haven’t seen them in pads yet, so it’s anyones guess as to who will back up Fergy. Solai is thinking the job is his because they didn’t draft anyone for his job. He is getting fat though. I don’t know alot about McDaniel, but I thought I had read somewhere that he can play end and tackle. Something tells me Parcells and co. may be thinking along these lines. They moved Roth last year. Not that he’s the future, but I’m thinking about this season. Fergy goes down, this run defense is in big trouble. Next draft will likely have defensive tackle and linebackers featured big time.
by perspective on Jul 17, 2009 7:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I am trying to be completely subjective here.
If there was one place where I would put the Dolphins last in a positijon in the AFC East.. it would be DT.
I am being honest. In a position where MANY of us looked to upgrade to anchor our 3-4 this year, the FO didn’t do NT in the draft. As much as I do like Ferguson, Jenkins is still a solid player (though not the player he once was). Honestly, I wouldn’t be outraged if the other 3 sites ranked us last.
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by BSerious72 on Jul 17, 2009 9:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
But i do like your rankings Matty
I believe that it goes Pats, Bills and MIA and NYJ in a pick ’em.
Gang Green needs to rethink the Jets at #1 over the Pats, cmon now.
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by BSerious72 on Jul 17, 2009 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Since when did those at Gang Green become able to think, much less rethink?
by PhinsTifosi on Jul 17, 2009 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
good question
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by Davone_Is_BessT on Jul 17, 2009 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that sir
is an excellent question.
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by BSerious72 on Jul 18, 2009 1:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
DT is definately a weakness
The fact is that Ferguson isnt a sping chicken doesnt help his case and we all saw last year what happened when he got hurt.
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by Patssuck456 on Jul 19, 2009 6:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Has everyone forgotten we picked up Tony McDaniel from Jacksoneville?
He’s a beast… 6’7", 310lbs…….
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by Alpha6 on Jul 19, 2009 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He will be at DE for us
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