Around The AFC East: Ranking the linebacker corps
Two weeks ago, you'll remember that our weekly "Around The AFc East" feature was a ranking of the running back stables in the division. After a week off for the holiday last week, we are back this week with the ranking of each team's linebacker corps.
My rankings are below. And you can also see how the three other AFC East bloggers ranked each team's linebackers by heading over to Buffalo Rumblings, Pats Pulpit, and Gang Green Nation.
And just a quick note - I only gave consideration to linebackers who have actually played a game in the NFL. I didn't consider rookies or players who have spent their career on the practice squad only. I will admit, though, that this one was a tough ranking to create. All four teams have some solid linebackers.
MATTY'S RANKINGS OF THE AFC EAST LINEBACKER CORPS
As much as I dislike the Jets (my most hated team in the NFL), I respect how good their linebackers are. While I don't think Bart Scott is great, he is very good and will now anchor the middle of New York's defense. Along side Scott is third-year linebacker David Harris - who really impressed me in 2007 but took a step back in '08. On the edges, they have two solid pass-rushers who can get to both the quarterback and the ball carrier. Last year, Bryan Thomas and Calvin Pace combined for 12.5 sacks and 13 tackles for loss. But this unit does seem to lack depth. Vernon Gholston showed absolutely nothing as a rookie last year. They'll need more out of him to help that unit get over Pace's four game suspension.
Some people are going to call me a homer. But the Dolphins have some very good linebackers on this team. Having the 2008 AFC sack leader, Joey Porter, instantly makes this unit worthy of being in the upper half half of the divisional rankings. His 17.5 sacks are more than the combined 2008 sack totals of the Jets' projected starting linebackers this year. But the Dolphins are much more than just Porter. Channing Crowder, despite his lack of big plays, is a solid linebacker who really stepped up last year. His 113 tackles last year is more than any other current AFC East linebacker other than Jerod Mayo. And his 3.5 tackles for loss were more than Mayo and David Harris - and just as much as Bills' LB Paul Posluszny. Matt Roth really stepped up in his first year at linebacker - doing a terrific job setting the edge and stopping the run. It got to the point where teams made it a point to run away from Roth's side when he was on the field. And Roth picked up 5 sacks and 5 tackles for loss along the way. He's only going to get better, too.
I also think the Dolphins have solid depth at linebacker. Jason Taylor is back and will be a force as a pass-rusher. He's going to allow defensive coordinator Paul Pasqualoni to get creative in how he uses Porter and Taylor in passing situations. Reggie Torbor is also a capable backup at inside linebacker. After all, he's a guy who started all four playoff games during the Giants' Super Bowl run in 2007. Truth be told, if not for Akin Ayodele, the Dolphins would ne at the top of my list. And it's not that Ayodele is bad, but he just doesn't compare to either of the Jets' inside linebackers.
I'll admit that I'm a big fan of Paul Posluszny and how he plays the game. He had a very good season last year after missing basically all of his rookie season in 2007. I think he's going to be a star in this league. I also think that Buffalo's backup middle linebacker, John DiGiorgio, is a very solid reserve. He filled in well for Buffalo in '07 after "Pos" went down. I think that Kawika Mitchell is a solid outside linebacker, too. He rarely misses a tackle and he will make the occasional big play - tallying 4 sacks, 4 tackles for loss, 2 interceptions, and 2 forced fumbles last year. But I'm not too high on Keith Ellison at all and I'm not a big fan of Buffalo's depth at outside linebacker - at least from what I've seen and/or know of the guys.
It's not that I think New England's linebackers stink. I just think they are in a division that has three really good groups of linebackers ahead of them. Jerod Mayo is probably going to be a very good linebacker. But he is yet to prove to me he is as great as the media wants you to believe. Yes, he made 128 tackles (100 of them solo). That's impressive for a rookie. But he didn't show any ability to make a big play. Right now, I simply can't say with any confidence that Mayo is or will be better than Channing Crowder. Mayo had fewer tackles for loss and fewer passes defensed than Crowder, and just as many sacks and interceptions - none. So why am I supposed to believe the media when they talk about how great he's going to be? I'm not buying.
Adalius Thomas wasn't exactly playing outstanding before his season ended early in 2008 due to injuries. Tedy Bruschi was once a good linebacker but is now just a shell of himself. And the Pats don't have anyone of note to man the other outside linebacker spot. Pierre Woods, Shawn Crable, and Tully Banta-Cain are marginal at best. Paris Lenon was a good pickup by New England, though. He'll provide good depth inside - and perhaps even push Bruschi for some playing time.
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Young blood
When you consider all of Miami’s young talent potential and the ability to rotate quality fresh players. You have to put Miami on top.
BTW are all your readers night owls. I am FIRST!!!!!
Go fish
hmmm...
where are the young LB"s on the phins? seriously – i like most of the LB’s i just wouldn’t describe the corps as young.
by W NY Fins Fan on Jul 10, 2009 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Good point...
But I don’t think matty was going so much on potential!!
GEtSICK 4 JC
by GEtSICK13 on Jul 10, 2009 10:05 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Ranking the phins #2 just goes to show how weak the position is in the division
With the exception of Porter, none of the other starters for the phins would be in the top half of the players at their position in the league. I still contend that the LB position for the phins is arguably the weakest unit on the team next to the WR corp.
To be a dominant defense running a 3-4, your LB’s have to make impact plays. Because of lack of impact plays from this unit (even with Porter), Miami will not be a top defense. They are solid, nothing more.
i agree
the position is very weak in our division and on our team. good post ct
by NewJerseyphins on Jul 10, 2009 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions
I actually rated Miami #1 in the AFC East
When Jason Taylor was being courted by the Patriots, I asked Matty for his opinions on the subject as well as rejoining the Phins. He brought up an excellent point – Porter was running out of gas in the fourth quarter, essentially carrying a great deal of the load on his shoulders. Despite that, he managed 17.5 sacks and it is my belief that he will only be more productive with Taylor helping out at pass rushing duties.
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I was banned from the propellers blog
by Johny B good, for calling him that, so dont be sad finx ; )
BTW! with the addition of JT(coming to term with it) i would it put the Dolphins 1st, but i can understand Matty I too. Good post!
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lol where've you been bro?
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you were banned because you are ghey........wasabi!!!!!!
Just one man's opinion...
"mark my words...we will draft 2 corners within the first 4 picks", hwyatt3 said with confidence prior to the draft
Projection: White and Turner - each will have at least 3 to 5 TD's this year...watch!
not you aleta.....finsx.................ok....yeah, you too........ ha
Just one man's opinion...
"mark my words...we will draft 2 corners within the first 4 picks", hwyatt3 said with confidence prior to the draft
Projection: White and Turner - each will have at least 3 to 5 TD's this year...watch!
Cool
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finx!!! I WAS BANN FROM THE patsies too!!
Didnt knew that lol
And im ghey too!! That meant that i can buy a rainbow flag too!! ; )
Just wondering what my wife will said about it!!
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lol
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Not.
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Bills fan here
I like your rankings the best. I went on a rank over at Rumblings about how I think the Pats linebackers stink. It amazes me how much love they get just for being the Patriots. I’ll openly admit they are an incredible team, but Bruschi and Thomas are on their last legs, Mayo has been greatly exaggerated and is still a prospect with high upside and the rest I’d give Ellison a good chance of getting that OLB spot in a competition if its against Bunta Cain, Woods, and Crable.
Earlier this off-season I had hopes of signing Crowder to the Bills and bumping Poz outside for a great trio. Crowder may not make many outstanding plays but hes strong and solid, besides, I think a LB can develop a penchant for making plays later in his career.
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I had a bills fan once tell me that a dolphins loss was better than a bill win.......good stuff
Just one man's opinion...
"mark my words...we will draft 2 corners within the first 4 picks", hwyatt3 said with confidence prior to the draft
Projection: White and Turner - each will have at least 3 to 5 TD's this year...watch!
I think I would've agreed with that 15-20 years ago
I don’t think that statement is true any longer b/c the Bills lack a playoff team in the 2000s. So any Bills win is way sweeter than a loss by any other team (except maybe that Pats Super Bowl loss….that was pretty sweet)
by bluecollarbuffalo on Jul 20, 2009 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions
I feel that the Bills and Pat's could be tied.
The Pat’s are getting older and slower, but I think the Bills will rue the day that they didn’t find a proven replacement for Ellison. He’s too weak at the point of attack.
by bluecollarbuffalo on Jul 20, 2009 10:00 AM EDT up reply actions
i would rank
1.miami-depth at olb juz pushes them to number1
2.bills-mitchell and poz are elite linebackers IMO
3. jets-bart scott only one that scares me
4. pats-mayo is avg but the rest are oldies past their prime
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by Davone_Is_BessT on Jul 10, 2009 11:29 AM EDT reply actions
apparently not
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I forgot about him!! He will be a force!
In the CFL, QB rushing r more needed because of the 3 down play, so he will produce instanly
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wake....
wasn’t eligable for the rankings as a new or rookie player. But he’s going to be awesome!
by crossborderFISHingtrip on Jul 10, 2009 7:42 PM EDT reply actions
Call me a homer
but i’d take the phins LB’s this year over the jets…I suspect the jets will be better in a year or so when the JP/JT/AA fall off due to age….
My guess is that the jets don’t have a LB who will be as good as Roth is this year…. Heck Roth may end up as the best OLB in the division by the end of the season… and that is before you deal with a good JT/JP rotation and quality roll players in CC & AA….
and finally i’d say you seriously overrate the IOU’s lbs ….DiGiorgio really Matty did you see 3 bills games last year???
and your man crush on pzzzlutzzzzknee is showing the guy is undersize and wears down in games and fell off the planet by the end of the year… yeah he looked good early in his rookie season but last year he looked pretty average in the end… the IOUer’s round here complained that he never really makes a big play or one that matters putting him on par with CC i guess.
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well played wny
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by finsxfactor on Jul 10, 2009 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions
W NY Fins Fan............YOU ARE A HOMER.......there......happy??!!!!
Just one man's opinion...
"mark my words...we will draft 2 corners within the first 4 picks", hwyatt3 said with confidence prior to the draft
Projection: White and Turner - each will have at least 3 to 5 TD's this year...watch!
even gang green ranked the dolphins linebackers #1
now thats sayin something
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by Davone_Is_BessT on Jul 11, 2009 1:18 AM EDT reply actions
haha lets hope
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by finsxfactor on Jul 11, 2009 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions
miami has the best line backers
porter and crowder are very good and matt roth done good moving to a position he didnt normally play and ayodele may not be as good as the jets inside backers but the dept that the dolphins have should put them way above the rest of the afc rotate them in and keep em fresh and let them hit tom brady till he says no mas

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